Gossip, Glitter & Whimsical Disgrace - WTF is up with Lisa Frank?

Hi friends, happy Thursday!
Welcome to the Dark History podcast. I’ve mentioned her many times before. I’ve tempted you over and over with her juicy story. I promised to you again and again that we’d get into the shady backstory. And the time has finally come. It’s time for us to talk about Miss Lisa Frank. Oh yeah. On today’s episode we get into the story about what was happening behind the glitter and rainbows at Lisa Frank Inc. We’re talking phone bugging, drugs, fraud, verbal abuse, chaining employees inside the building?!?!?! Yeah, this story is not at all what you expect. So hold onto that rainbow tiger trapper keeper tight, babe, this is gonna be a wild ride.
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Chapters:
INTRO - 00:00
LISA’S EARLY DAYS - 02:32
STICKY FINGERS - 05:29
LISA FRANK INCORPORATED - 08:35
GREEN, JAMES GREEN - 16:23
IT’S NOT ALL RAINBOWS AND GLITTER - 19:23
EVERY VILLAIN NEEDS A SIDEKICK - 25:46
PICK A SIDE BITCHES - 33:16
WHAT’S MINE ISN’T YOURS - 38:57
A LAWSUIT FOR EVERYONE - 43:02
LISA’S COMEBACK - 46:57
CONCLUSION -52:28
Dark History is an Audioboom Original.
This podcast is Executive Produced by:
Bailey Sarian, Kim Jacobs, Dunia McNeily from 3arts, Kevin Grosch, and Claire Turner From Made In Network
Writers: Katie Burris, Allyson Philobos, Joey Scavuzzo Amy Heidt and Bailey Sarian
Research provided by: Regina Dolza
Special thank you to Historical Consultants: Arielle Dollinger, freelance journalist for outlets including The New York Times and producer for Cheddar News.
Chack out more of Arielle’s work at arielledollinger.weebly.com/ or / arielledollinger
Shot By: Tafadzwa Nemarundwe
Edited by: Lily Young
Post Supervisor: Kelly Hardin
Production Management: Ross Woodruff
Hair: Tony Ibarra
Makeup: Jill Powell
I'm your host -- Bailey Sarian

[@salamalmahi541]

Who’s here after Jen’s video?

[@MoonMoonTM]

Rewatching it after watching Jen's video. Lol

[@chipmunkgarcia]

🙋🏼‍♀️🙋🏼‍♀️😅😅

[@sk8oasis788]

Who’s Jen?

[@Tiogair]

When I was a kid I could only get one or two Lisa Frank folders per year because they were so expensive and then I’d agonize over which subject was worthy of featuring golden retriever puppies sharing a rainbow sundae on the beach

[@BaileySarian]

which subjects did you choose??

[@sarahnuamah7009]

@@BaileySarian Bailey would you have chosen…history..? It’s okay I’ll show myself out

[@hannahwagner9383]

@@BaileySarian science always got the Lisa frank folder

[@DollishDes]

LOL This is the best comment ever. 🤣🤣

[@DollishDes]

@@sarahnuamah7009 LOL!!

[@pbjgurl]

When I was 20, me and my first real boyfriend broke up. So my dad came home and gave me a cute Lisa Frank journal set with pens. It was like a movie scene where your dad comes in and soothes your childish sadness with some cute words and a gift lol.

[@christianluz602]

I love how your dad bought his 20 year old daughter a Lisa Frank journal... Like how cute. Every girl needs a diary right?

[@pbjgurl]

@@christianluz602 my dads passed away since then. So it’s a cute memory I get to have forever ♥️

[@udontevenwannaknowbruv]

Aaww we love a supportive father who knows what to do to cheer his daughter up ❤ That’s sad he passed away though, rip :( I hope you can always cherish the times you spent with him and keep the memory of him alive through you and your family’s stories and pictures. My dad lives back in my home country for his job though we still keep in contact. But one time when he flew over to visit us, he bought me a hand painted matryoshka set, which was really cool because it was Ariel themed! The smallest piece had sebastian the crab on it 😂 Though I haven’t been able to see him in person for 4 years (due to some government issues), I still keep that set in my room as hope that some day, hopefully within the near future, he’ll come for a visit again.

[@jangucreates]

THAT is the cutest thing I've heard in a long time. Go dad!

[@kmos1948]

After watching this video - I got a fresh picture in my mind of your beautiful dad/daughter moment! What a wonderful memory. TY for sharing it.

[@anahio8643]

my grandma worked at the Lisa Frank factory in my hometown ( Tucson ) for 3 years before james took charge of the company, she met Lisa multiple times and said she was super nice and caring! The only reason I had Lisa Frank stuff growing up was because of my grandma I had way too many stickers that I still have til this day. She also remembers exactly how the factory looked like super colorful and bright. btw ily bailey!!!

[@jackie0795]

My grandma worked there too! She worked in the factory side. Didn’t have the best experience working there tho 😔 horrible working conditions for the laborers.

[@rachaellee2505]

This would be the only Factory I’d work at!

[@Alicealexandra4]

Who remembers the store in the mall? It felt magical in there, I was definitely never able to afford anything though lol

[@SHKRILLABAYBECELI]

​@@Alicealexandra4at Park place or Tucson Mall?

[@guhraysee]

I’ve always heard that office workers called it the rainbow gulag, it was that bad…

[@NFA_13]

You know what I realized. History is gossip, only the gossip lasts FOREVER!

[@Threadbow]

Hopefully with some facts along the way

[@itsljcabrera]

This ain't it 😬

[@Pushnotificationsalwaysoffbye]

THIS IS TRUE!

[@tabithameekins8050]

not if is for education and not to hurt i mean to keep someone from making the same mistake but i do see the colleration

[@kristinpotoski9221]

Idk why, but this made me laugh manishly! You're SO RIGHT!! 😂😂😂

[@Vi-dq5bj]

Lisa went through all this just to end up having her 260 sticker pack sold at my local Dollar tree for 1.25 🤣 I totally bought it though 😭🤘

[@azirahector1547]

MINE SELLS THOSE TOO!! 😂

[@qvndeath5130]

Lol dolar tree it is

[@julsenn91]

Dollar General for us but SAME!

[@LalaaCherry]

Samsiessss I keep buying them😂😂🤣😂

[@maymilitia5167]

I bought 2! When I was a kid I couldn't afford any Lisa Frank stuff either so when I saw those sticker books at Dollar Tree!! I had to have one!

[@damessyelliott_3949]

Living in Tucson you can’t go anywhere without seeing the touch of Mrs. Frank. One of her head illustrators taught my design class at the junior college here. RIP Dennis❤️❤️

[@dejafeeback-bm5cn]

So I believe I am understanding your comment right, that you live in Tucson? I am one of those people who love to visit abandoned places and I was curious about the factory. I've heard that it's closed down permanently. Is that true? (If Bailey mentioned it, I missed it, I was doing chores while listening) But I was curious if it was one of those places you can visit and walk around, or has tours. I know I can Google, but I thought if it came from someone who lives there, it was more reliable information 😅

[@allycatanderson]

@@dejafeeback-bm5cn I am from Tucson and still live here. Unfortunately it is permanently closed down. They don’t do any tours or anything. I read another comment that says it’s used as an artillery manufacturer now 😢

[@rainfire3335]

​@@allycatandersonif I'm not mistaken they recently (i know your comment is from like 6 months ago) made an announcement that they were coming back, but I'm not sure on all the details 😅

[@IggyBros]

@@rainfire3335I watched Jen Loves Reviews latest video and their comeback is not going great 🙈

[@CareBear82]

Tucson is where things go to die. it was doomed from the beginning. bad juju there.

[@randolphd1200]

As a kid in the 80's, I never really got into the Lisa Frank stuff but I was oh so jealous that the rich girls had Hello Kitty stuff that their mom's bought at the local boutique. I never got any. Fast forward to today, I just bought my daughter all Keroppi stuff from Hot Topic. I will relive my childhood through her, dangit! LOL

[@kathernandez6682]

My daughter loves this stuff too 😂

[@Threesquaresons]

Your a great mom. I had all boys ,so anytime I get to buy a girl gift I go all out with my adult money.😂

[@kelseykalish4485]

"I was born in... no nevermind" Bailey cracks me up; absolutely adore her!!!

[@dawnchelle]

Same and i was born in 76 so i know all about lisa frank and had some of it … not a lot cuz it was esspensive! ☺️

[@AA-us3yo]

Love all your cheeky references! Dark history had become a favorite of mine. Facts are facts but you are Bill Nye the Science Guy with the delivery. Thank you Bailey!! ❤️

[@MizzVivi]

I had to go look, she's younger than I am, and not an age to be "no, nevermind" lol

[@jonathanruhland8945]

Brazil... and she's a racist lol. If you watched her videos you'd know this.

[@TheJodilicious6]

@@MizzVivi lol I know 🙄 I said the same thing

[@user-iy7fp7bg4r]

I am disappointed by the lack of comments about Bailey’s use of the term “dickmatized” 🤣 😆

[@lyndseycarr1320]

Youve never heard of dickmatized lol

[@Kaylergh]

YESS MERCH PLS

[@brooklynmona5780]

its been said

[@MercuryBubble]

Someone probably already owns it. Definitely heard this word as a kid in 2000s...a lot lol

[@rachelle8837]

Yep, we've been saying "dickmatised" in the UK for years now

[@DDDawn23]

Lisa Frank, Care Bears and Hello Kitty was my addiction as a child I HAD TO HAVE EVERYTHING.

[@vickilangley5050]

Me too but add to that Pound Puppies and My Little Ponys

[@Cleaningfairy1970]

Don't forget My Melody 😃

[@iaminevitable_]

And Polly pocket 😅

[@chloethevillager]

Strawberry Shortcake and HK was mine ❤

[@Bgonzo20]

You Rich Bich 😂 jk "Jealous!" 😘

[@nikmorgan372]

Even being an early 2000’s kid, Lisa Frank was still HUGE! If you had those Lisa Frank Folders for school you were the coolest girl in school!

[@zajch]

We need an Episode on United Airlines and the industry as a whole, and the whole universities and Ivy leagues and corruption. So much shady stuff

[@Talia0812]

Oh the creation of college types in itself is a enough

[@cheddyspaghetti5812]

Yes!

[@reesimara]

I second this

[@TruGhost.]

College, pro, and international sports, honestly.

[@queent2815]

Ooooo or pamair? I'm uk 🇬🇧 so I just know from Wolf of wall street

[@trillion42]

As a child of the 70's and 80's. Yes, stickers were a HUGE thing with kids. Scratch and sniff stickers, all different types of pop art inspired stickers!

[@DaWhiteWolffie]

Yup. I had a big sticker collection in the 80s. Scratch and sniff was THE BEST.

[@candygreen785]

I remember my sister throwing fits over getting at least a sticker set if we couldn't afford a folder or binder

[@lorihowell5626]

Scratch n Sniff!!! Man I miss those!

[@alexeusnicol]

I remember the 90s were big on stickers too. If you got a sticker book, you were one of the elites

[@BrittanyyBitchh]

I remember the scratch and sniff stickers

[@abbywilson5988]

A great example of what happens when a malignant narcissist runs a company 👍

[@ericannebe5956]

This is the comment I was looking for!! As soon as she said he took a leadership position I knew😒

[@annamossity8879]

Try two malignant narcissists!

[@brittyann1038]

Five Star is now one of the most expensive brands… at least to me 😂

[@lov82291]

I feel like five star has always been expensive. Or maybe we were just a poorer poor lol

[@jadepatrice2276]

I was thinking the same thing. I remember begging my Mama for anything 5Star and I think I got one little notebook 😭🤣 couldn't afford any of it

[@s__5476]

5 Star was maybe even more expensive than LF. If you got the 5 Star, you were the rich kid

[@Jlashay325]

Right!! Five Star did an uno reverse 😂

[@Emeralds.Bee4]

I can’t explain why when I saw Lisa Frank at Dollar Tree I got so excited. I’m 35 and growing up We weren’t able to afore it. Yes I went a little overboard and bought a bunch of stickers. Yes the child in me was happy to finally have access to these. And yes I did buy extra for my sister and my friends kids!

[@JennifuhhGilardi]

Yesss plus it pretty much disappeared once we were older so seeing it come back was the best!

[@DebraWomack]

When I saw them in Dollar Tree I bought ALL of them. Like 16 books of stickers 😂

[@katholeenloveit8923]

Hehehe I totally did the same thing. My sister was so stoked when I gave her the stickers. 3 packs for her and 3 for me! So cheap now!

[@lisawilliams5810]

I did the SAME THING🤣🤣

[@lisacallan5462]

My husband found it at dollar tree, didn't realize it was Lisa frank and just thought our kids would enjoy it (we have four daughters) so he got a bunch and I flipped out when he got home and he was like "apparently I should have gotten you some too" 😂

[@colincooper4659]

I always thought the Lisa Frank stuff was dope when I was a kid, and secretly I wanted it. But it was for girls, and so I never said anything about it until just now.

[@Khaleesi_Jack]

Baby, go get you some loud obnoxious LF stuff!!

[@lorrainebowsjasonlorraine7554]

Please go get you some LF!!! YOU DESERVE IT, SWEETIE!!

[@tyerachunn8116]

Its was for everybody

[@kaitlynblount7683]

Aw man I wish boys like you never had to feel that way. Yes we're heading in the right direction now, but it's hard to fight against the gendered stereotypes forced on us. I hope you feel more comfortable expressing yourself now, in any way you want to!

[@Liam-mf4fl]

happy rainbow glitter vibes are for everyone, go buy some if that's what you feel like doing :)

[@kristialexus6866]

Why am I just now seeing this video 😭 Lisa Frank comes into the salon I work at! She is so nice, and I’ve actually had the pleasure of doing her hair. 🥰

[@savage.4.24]

Tell her her public has kids and we want to see her stuff in walmart again!! And walgreens and target. We humbly plea her to pick up her art supplies and patent lawyers!

[@annamossity8879]

@@savage.4.24Check the dollar stores, plenty there.

[@diorluvv8243]

I live in Tucson Arizona, & drive by the factory from time to time. They stopped production at that location, but kept it open as a museum of some sort for a while, but since has shut down completely. The hearts & stars have since slowly faded with time, the building has a hole in the glass as if someone threw a rock through it, & the lot is as empty as ever. You can honestly feel the bitter energy as you drive past 🥺

[@lindaflagg5724]

I was folding clothes when she said, “LINDA, listen!” I laughed and I’m alone. Last year I was listening to one of her MMM episodes and dozed off. Bailey yelled, “Wake up!”

[@LadyEowyn]

She's talking to you.

[@jacquelineross7598]

😆

[@jingn2330]

🤣😄

[@robertbarksdale3397]

She just knows

[@tanyaelias7683]

My dad was a truck driver when I was young, and sometimes he would take me and my mom with him on his trips into the US. One time we stopped at a Target and we shopped. I found this diary that I wanted more than anything in the world. Literally, my little child heart thought it was the only thing I could ever want or need. I remember staring at it forever and begging for it. My parents said, no and that it was too expensive. I sat in sleeper of the semi for hours crying. I never forgot that day, but I never thought I'd know what kind of diary it was. Now I know it was an Lisa Frank! The colors and images brought it all back.

[@Monica-qb1gz]

Haha aww this is cute

[@maggieliz333]

please go buy yourself one. 🫶🏻

[@Emeralds.Bee4]

Get yourself one if you can! I’m 35 and found some of Lisa Franks stickers at a local dollar tree. When I tell you my inner child was so excited and happy 😃.

[@jamier.hayden4636]

I was hoping it would end with you getting it for Christmas or your birthday

[@-Reagan]

Girl if you don’t go buy that diary right now I’m going to buy it for you. I’m not kidding - we’re poor, but my kid will be 100% behind me on this. Some things you just have to have. It’s a necessity! For your inner child - that little girl Tanya, who cried to herself in the sleeper. I am sending you a hug 🤗

[@lindafilosa5086]

I loved the puffy Lisa Frank stickers. There were ones with water and glitter✨

[@Puthypower222]

THE PUFF STICKERS WERE SO SATISFYING

[@cassicarrasco700]

YESS

[@samsamthecat492]

Me too!!❤

[@auntkaren3803]

I was afraid to waste them as stickers. Those for sure had to be in a quality sticker book where they could be removed if necessary 😂

[@IggyBros]

@@auntkaren3803exactly those were the type of stickers I never actually used because I didn’t want to ruin them 😹🙈

[@exo_bxnny]

I had so much Lisa Frank and had no idea it wasn’t cheap… my parents were pretty broke but always made sure I had the things. :)

[@rebeccab2446]

just throwing this out there - but they were not that expensive, just more expensive than the basics. A plan folder cost .10 (literally that much - my mom as a teacher and we purchased in bulk) while a Lisa Frank folder cost .65. All of this was less than a candy bar, but when you had to buy all school supplies and art supplies - it all added up. Bailey is too young to remember the actual trapper keepers - the zipper ones that she is talking about came out much later (they were either 5 star, or 5 star knock offs)

[@TsunamiKitten56]

"I was born in.. no nevermind." 🤣🤣 I love you Bailey. I'm so so happy you're back!

[@brown.frown.]

I was born in 1988 & just turned 34 on the 5th. Leos ♌️ represent! Was introduced to some of my younger classmates in their early 20s. They thought I was 24 🥺 Bless their hearts. Shout out to The Ordinary & few other skin care products, water, & my yearly sacrifices to keeping me looking young 💜

[@Samantha-rr3or]

I was born in 1991 and I tuned 31 today! But do I look 31 nope! I just last week was asked if I was excited to go back to school lol! And my kids hear comments all the time calling them my siblings 🤣. Moral of this story own your age and surprise people.

[@thriftieswiftie]

@@brown.frown. happy late birthday !!

[@brown.frown.]

@@thriftieswiftie thank you!

[@karentucker2161]

I was born in 84 so I remember some of that fruit jewelry was still popular when I was 4 but didn't realize she started them. the stickers I remember and of course her other stuff too

[@AbbeBrown]

I was an 80’s kid and can confirm sticker collecting was huge. All my friends and I had large photo albums with only stickers we organized them by type like scratch & sniff, puffy, and Lisa Frank stickers were very desirable.

[@katbarks2994]

Dude, I still have mine. And I had an eraser collection too. Even had some that looked like cigarettes! Lol

[@mrsteadog1313]

You guys are making me miss my childhood. Oh! The sticker collecting & trading when we had duplicates. 😆

[@ghiajohnson1547]

And Hello Kitty/ Sanrio stickers, pencil cases, erasers, etc!

[@Kate-su6tf]

Saaaaame!! There were some really cool color changing ones as well, like a mood ring sticker. RIP Zany Brainy

[@Multipass1111]

Yes and I still have a lot of mine too!

[@caitinbolt-chambers8152]

I literally bought the Lisa Frank Crocs that came out not too long ago. Lisa is iconic to 80s & 90s babies no matter what

[@taleeaheadley4177]

I keep trying but they immediately sell out of my size😭

[@SunshineGurl34]

Iconic or not, why continue to support a company that falsely claim copyright on artists works that have nothing to do with Lisa Frank? Why support a company who steals from other artists and small beauty brands?

[@stoopidgerl]

Amazon has them now. I got em for $60

[@taleeaheadley4177]

@Kimmy R I got them when they came back in stock. Thank you though!

[@tinymeanginger6293]

When I was in middle school I wanted a Lisa frank folder. My mom brought home a vanilla ice folder from Kmart. Um this was the early 2000’s so he was not even relevant anymore. Sadly I threw it away. I wish i still had it because it makes for a great story and I would actually use it now just because it would be so funny. My momma had no idea what was going on. She was just trying to save money. Bless her lol

[@chelseaparker9111]

I’m really appreciating the butterfly clips. Very on brand with the story and my childhood 😂

[@alohaandchillohana]

right? i had so many of those :)

[@aliciamiller9049]

Yes!!! Lol

[@crimeinvestigations5098]

Same

[@catherinevaldez9992]

Same here

[@MommaSkelly]

Oh I know lol. I found some on Amazon and bought them. I say they're for my daughter's Birthday but I'm sure she won't mind if I borrow a few now and then lol

[@Casca1997Berserk]

I literally just 💛💚💙💗 watched Lisa Frank documentaries and news clips just yesterday.. and thought how cool it would be if Bailey made a video on this subject. Nice. Edited to + 💛💚💙💗

[@BaileySarian]

omg that's wild!

[@stares_mthrfckrly]

Thank you for manifesting this 🙏🏼

[@angel_ethereal]

your mind is so powerful ✨

[@triciaboo1204]

I watched illuminaughti's video on lisa frank! Its nuts! Cant wait to see baileys take 🍵

[@coffins_and_coffee]

It doesn’t matter how familiar I am with a case/story/subject- I’m always ready to hear Bailey’s take 😂

[@lilchicken93]

I hope Lisa Frank sees this & realizes how much we all love her and how much she really impacted our childhood

[@willowmalone9215]

"James was acting like scarface in Candyland" 💀 ....if this isn't the best line I've ever heard, I don't know what is

[@ducky19991]

I’m a 2000s kid and Lisa Frank was still huge for me, and I still collected and traded stickers with friends. I didn’t know it went back to the 80s!

[@christietimmreck-byrd7503]

Yes it did we had all kinds of sticker books for any and all stickers we could find

[@30clipn86]

@@christietimmreck-byrd7503 thats so freakin cool

[@christietimmreck-byrd7503]

Stickers were awesome have you seen these cars that are covered completely with stickers??? I wouldn't ever do that to my car but probably an 80s kid

[@christietimmreck-byrd7503]

Yes Lisa Frank is still huge i let my daughter get lisa frank folders for school, but i loved my trapper keeper and my kid's didn't like them....im like you have everything you need right here lol

[@megharoni]

Me, already knowing the ins and outs of the Lisa Frank story: *settles down to dust my office and hear someone else explain the madness to me all over again.*

[@caseyhasler413]

lol im listening while cleaning the bthrm !

[@MelissaThompson432]

Watch out for the catfishing....

[@sh0r7c4k3]

We're here for the same reasons LOL

[@queenj4445]

YASSS!!!!

[@shable1436]

Never heard of her before, being male I'm sure I'm not alone

[@Jennifer-pb9nd]

Girl, I had sticker books, basically photo albums for collecting stickers. We didn't have the internet, youtube, tiktok... we didn't even have cell phones, decent TV or decent radio. We worked with what we had.

[@DasPanda]

Yerp, and in hindsight, less was more. I'd be beside myself whenever I got to watch cable tv at my cousins house and now kids are flipping through Netflix like "im bored".

[@sarahelenatheoriginal709]

Our tv and radio was bomb excuse me

[@DasPanda]

@@sarahelenatheoriginal709 Yasss

[@chivonfortney1656]

Yep. Same here for me!! Preach it!

[@m.s.2549]

Scratch-N-Sniff round "Fantastic" sticker with the pastel blue rainbow on it...and woven ribbon barrettes..melted plastic window craft decals. We were so excited for the Saturday morning cartoon specials.

[@thestrippeddowntruth]

Fun Fact, Spencer's gifts owns spirit halloween😅 Also Bailey, now is definitely the time to TREAT your inner child!♡♡♡

[@ladymalingering]

My mum spoiled me. I was a total Lisa Frank girl. Going through being a child to preteen in the mid-late 90’s… it was everything and everywhere. Well aside from grunge, 🦋 hair claws, Jnco pants… and the original raves… oh and not to forget 🌈 glitter bracelets

[@missyyourist9859]

Glitter EVERYTHING!! Bahahaha!! 😍😂🙃

[@knotsofplants6686]

JNCO pants were everything!!!! 😆😆 I tell my kids about them... and somehow the 90s .are a return🤦‍♀️🤷‍♀️🤣

[@joannaperry6724]

Were you in San Francisco back then?

[@mandalynn410]

The shorts that look almost like pants.

[@jaimeclose6885]

Jelly shoes anyone?

[@kittykatxox845]

I would love a dark history on the practice of non consensual pelvic exams to many times required for medical students to preform on unconscious people. Because I just found out about that and I am terrified.

[@neuswoesje590]

Dark History about gyneacology is a very needed episode. but boy is it gonna be hard to watch..

[@chelseaozanic92]

I'm confused.. why would there be a reason to do a "dark history" video about medical students learning how to do pelvic exams? I feel so dumb right now lol.

[@mermaiddiyartist8119]

@@neuswoesje590 it feels like she’s done it. But I think she only talked a little about it

[@corsetedwasteland2630]

@@chelseaozanic92 I think maybe they were performed ON them.... Tbh I hope I'm wrong AF bc YIKESSS.

[@saraa1741]

@@chelseaozanic92 I believe the OP is saying that the pelvic exams were performed on the medical students...which it's super sus 😳 I hope I'm wrong lol

[@smassey6848]

Being a child of the 80s, stickers were everything!

[@Redbearart]

When I went to the art center design college, Lisa Frank was the only job they would promote and guarantee us after graduation, but we had heard all the rumors and a few of my friends went to work for her and confirmed it was toxic

[@Charmingpreppylife]

Bailey is the only person alive who can make me WANT to listen to an ad lol

[@Fauna4ever]

I agree!

[@Trinsolo]

Yess, the only KZbinr I don't fast forward on lol

[@kitcowool]

I literally just found myself listening to her and while reading your comment. I did not FFWD. Didn’t even have the urge to. Didn’t even realize it!

[@tiabarrett3879]

So freakin true

[@christinaleigh7156]

When's she does...I'm here in the comments and as she's talking about hair products and lotions hahahha I read this...lol 🤣

[@yves9911]

I never knew that Lisa Frank was so expensive bc by the time I was born (2003) I would buy Lisa Frank at dollar tree for cheap. I would buy coloring books and folders 😂

[@lilianagarcia3245]

Same! All the stickers,folders,notebooks and even pencils I would get them at dollar tree😂🫶🏼

[@squarebear619]

I grew up in the 90s and never thought it was expensive but I do realize that I did go to private schools and grew up with parents whose goals in parenting were materialistic.

[@ThatGirlJD]

@@squarebear619 I'm an 80s baby and grew up in the 90s, her stuff did cost more than plain school supplies. I had a few Lisa Frank items here and there. They did cost more but I didn't think they were unaffordable. My parents purchased most of our school supplies in bulk, so they wouldn't have to randomly go out and buy school supplies in the middle of the night. My parents wouldn't get us Mead Trapper Keepers, because they don't think they were a sturdy product, but we had Mead Five Star zipper binders.

[@shable1436]

@@squarebear619 catholic or academies

[@lucianaromulus1408]

I was born in 90 and I had a few folders but their trapper keepers and a few of their other items were definitely pricier. I only had a few of their items. I LOVED Lisa Frank.

[@Arhow17]

Sooo we def need a Lisa frank makeup look ❤

[@annabohn5386]

Agreed

[@caty603]

School supplies by Lisa frank were awesome. School supplies are so bland now too. All great things have a terrible history. Love your dark history series!!

[@HilaryW1013]

Stickers were EVERYTHING in the 80s! We had sticker collection books! All sorts of stickers.... scratch-n- sniff, puffy, glittery.... they were all the rage!

[@Squirrels_On_Film]

Remember when they rolled out the hologram stickers? I thought I was SO cool with my hologram pegasus stickers!

[@jackiemiles1091]

I’m stuck in my 80’s sticker phase still. I have tons of stickers I put in my journals and planners.

[@Squirrels_On_Film]

@@jackiemiles1091 Honestly, same. I was lucky enough to visit Tokyo a few years ago and brought back an embarrassing quantity of food-with-faces stickers. It was heavenly.

[@kristenc6530]

I miss the 80s 😂

[@rjkore5229]

Some of us were obsessed with collecting wrist rubber bands back then... ah simpler times!

[@Jennifer-es7qx]

When I was younger, I remember wanting twins when I grew up. A boy and a girl and their names would be Lisa and Frank.

[@kairilyn]

Did it happen

[@lauren9004]

Oh wow

[@Jennifer-es7qx]

@@kairilyn Absolutely not!

[@mavisjones9391]

😂👏🏼❣️

[@lisacline4975]

My name is Lisa and my husband's name is Frank. True story@!!0

[@Unique19Girlie]

Ive loved lisa Frank since I was 10! I’m 30 now and still love everything. Her story is dark compared to her bright art! Crazy

[@jessicahix5939]

James is still over on Instagram saying Lisa Frank was ALL him in his bio. What a freak.

[@SH-uf7lx]

What’s his Instagram called

[@cathytelea76]

@@SH-uf7lx jamey_a_green

[@echodiantha2325]

I love how those little butterfly clips were just setting the vibe. You are a 1997 retro queen! This episode was really fun. Thanks for adding a rainbow print bookmark to the dark history book! 🐼 🌸

[@simonghostriley5052]

I love her so much, she's like a best friend spilling some mad tea with us

[@Bartandpandora]

The older sister who doesn’t sugar coat anything for us 🥰

[@Irishmammy281]

Love is a bit American,,, we LIKE her,, we don't know her,,,I likes her alot alot

[@Mrs.Reddis]

So true, friends to the friendless

[@Irishmammy281]

@@Mrs.Reddis I'll be your friend anytime🇮🇪

[@bellesblues]

Bailey is truly lovely isn't she.

[@sarah_cary]

I'm going to use Lisa Frank stickers exclusively to remind myself never give a husband half the stock of my company.

[@OhLookYouFoundCristalina]

Lisa frank needs a documentary of her life . Or a movie This is a fascinating story

[@annamossity8879]

She absolutely doesn’t want that. Skeletons you know.

[@violetplatt0721]

Honestly, currently use Lisa Frank stickers on my sticker chart. It's nice at the end of the day when I've finished a task to get to put a white long haired cat with a tiara on the square for the day.

[@eddiehillman7592]

Bailey me and my daughter really enjoy listening to your stories and gossip gives us something to do together as she is a teen and doesn't like to be bothered so thanks

[@ewallace379]

wholesome 🥹❤️

[@Yabishjess]

😭💓 This is something she’ll remember forever!

[@lacyaubut6751]

W dad

[@adriana27100]

This episode popped up again and I can’t help myself from watching it again!…. #1 Bailey is such an amazing story teller #2 I freakin loved Lisa Frank’s EVERYTHING as an 80’s baby! It was an obsession, thanks for taking us down memory lane! 🦄💕🐼

[@abigailclodfelter1504]

I thought it was so funny that she was complaining about the 5 star one being the cheap one, at my school that was the cool expensive one, most of us just had super off brand dollar general or great value supplies lol

[@shiningstarmystic777]

I love the rainbow butterfly clips in your hair 🤩 This episode is fantastic, Appreciate you! ❤

[@adriennemcmillan9637]

I can't believe Lisa Frank things were expensive! I need to call my aunt, who raised me, and thank her because I had all the supplies in school! I was obsessed!

[@ef9723]

Yeah maybe bc i was a kid, but i don't remember my parents complaining about the price 🤔. I guess we were lucky kids!

[@dac6157]

Right, I was poor but somehow I had all her stuff. Need to call my mama up and tell her thanks.

[@livvyscott8549]

Same here. But I spend like 10 cents on my boys folders... and I remember Lisa frank folders being like $1.99 & that was back then.

[@mercyrn35]

You are the GOAT of storytelling! My attention is rarely held for long but I’m all in from beginning to end.

[@sarahblack6795]

So strange as a Scottish person to hear an American say “He was raging” 😂 we say that all the time!! I love it 🤍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[@sailormf]

I choked on my zoloft when you said “slapping meats” and I thank you for that

[@happyascheese]

Lol!

[@KennethNicholson1972]

Best youtube comment ever, lol.

[@KaseyMarshall]

Lol! Love this comment

[@amethyst5538]

🏆You won my soul with this comment.😂

[@Multipass1111]

You are my hero tonight with that immaculate comment 🤣💜

[@leslie6562]

The awkward moment this video pops up 2 weeks before my daughter’s Lisa Frank themed birthday party😬 She loves all things 90s.

[@kristifrick37]

Oh that’s a great idea for a theme and I dislike themes but I’d do Lisa Frank.

[@Ooxxls]

How old is she?

[@leslie6562]

@@kristifrick37 The 90s kid in me was super excited when she decided it lol

[@leslie6562]

@@Ooxxls 9

[@chelseapainter5494]

I was born in ‘88, and growing up all of my friends and I collected stickers. Mostly by Sandylion (sticker company) we had a blast. I still have my binder with tons of unused stickers; along with pages where I used the ones that I didn’t save. So, it wasn’t just the 80’s. ❤

[@branboi22]

I literally thought I was the only person who smelled that funky smell in Spencers! 😩😩😂 I pull my shirt over my nose EVERY trip

[@feelone1094]

Hot topic has / had the same smell ….kinda sweet-citrus but mixed with some sort of earthy essential oils .

[@herbalwhore]

same! it’s probably from all those chemicals in their products who knows

[@michaelathompson1685]

Yes my parents were mad about the $1 folders when the regular ones were 10 cents!!!! Book covers... Pencils... Planner... EVERYTHING!!!

[@jodiegalbraith2768]

The best as always!🤩 id loveeee you to talk about the dark history of childbirth, pregnancy stuff they’d do back in the day, wet nurses, the contraptions they used to get them out, why the mortality rates are so different at different times and for different races. You’re literally mesmerising I can’t wait to get all the juicy gossip every week😭🖤

[@laylamastella9764]

Someone else commented about the history of gynecology… she could combine all of those I’d be so interested!

[@jodiegalbraith2768]

@@laylamastella9764 yesss!! That’s an ace idea! She’s done periods but we need to know it all🫣😂

[@cecelopez6285]

I swear I can sit and listen to u talk all day!! Ty for always keeping me company 🤍

[@susangillam7860]

Stickers were so big in the 80's!! I got my sticker book taken away from me in the 2rd grade for the whole year for talking in class. 1981

[@stillGLAMORUS]

I used to live down the street from the head quarters 🌵 I’ve heard soooo many stories growing up about Ms Lisa Frank 🫢

[@talktalk3]

Born and raised in Tucson and it's such a spooky relic of nostalgia!

[@kamiilujan5450]

Spill the tea 🫖 I wanna know I feel offended for all those who make jewelry because my uncle makes them.

[@alihuebner9086]

we NEED the tea, girl. NEED it!

[@rellarando3649]

I also live i Tucson

[@stillGLAMORUS]

@@talktalk3 same !!!

[@jenniferspinney3306]

I can absolutely verify stickers were a thing in the early 80's! I remember having sticker albums and bringing them to school and you would share what stickers you had. Of course, Lisa Frank being the most coveted!

[@DaniBauerTHEGoddess]

Girl, same! I just said the same thing! 😂

[@ellamaurergraduation]

I STILL have my "sticker book" from middle school and ABSOLUTELY have pages of Lisa Frank stickers!!! (besides the scratch & sniff and oily holo ones!!!) 💖💖💖

[@SuperSarahbop]

My brother and I had sticker albums. Literally just photo albums but filled with stickers. Lisa Frank stationary was also big in the 80’s too

[@DaniBauerTHEGoddess]

Posters were really big too. My walls were completely covered and I had some on my ceiling as well. Some of the stuff that was popular back then was so wholesome. Despite the fact that most of us were feral latchkey kids that ran wild. I honestly miss running through sprinklers, being outside playing with a group of friends until dinner, then chowing down as fast as possible to get back outside until the street lights came on. Lol

[@DarkFire1536]

My sister and I had sticker albums in the 80's as well

[@Carol-tg2vv]

I remember the huge impact the Lisa Frank merchandise had at school. We couldn't afford it either at the time, but it was inspiring to see all the artwork. As an artist, I am still captured by it. Thanks for bringing this story here. And yes, Lisa Frank is a very smart woman!

[@ryry3095]

FUN FACT! The old Lisa Frank building now is used as an artillery weapon factory. A massive rainbow building used to make bombs and gun powder 😂

[@user-oe3db4oj9q]

Why did I cackle at this tho 😭

[@illyraleon]

I live close by to it.. idk where you got that info but it’s definitely empty lol

[@chelseaohanlon7550]

​@@illyraleonas do I. I too would like the know where that ridiculous story came from. It's literally an empty building with old Lisa frank stuff on it lol

[@chelseaohanlon7550]

What's more, I now also work right down the street from it. So I see it daily. Lol

[@bandballnaturalits3474]

😮

[@taylorcox6386]

“They’re just slappin meats” I cackled my way to the grave💀😂

[@OverIt822]

Oh dear. After you mentioned having to pass up the pretty, colorful LF items in the aisle and have no choice but to get the cheapest of cheap items, i immediately had flashbacks of my bratty breakdowns my poor mother had to endure lol. And even though it was such a big deal to 7 year old me at the time, looking back, I remember the heartbreak in my moms eye of feeling like she wasn’t adequate enough because she couldn’t splurge a little bit on a pink and purple folder. Ugh, it hurts my heart to think about it. Especially because for whatever she couldn’t provide in materials; she absolutely made up for with compassion, love, and devotion for her kids! But on a lighter note, after about 1 week into school that year, she had completed a large gig (videographers were a big thing back then) so she took me to pick out a few lF items. I remember getting a binder (never used it in 2nd grade but I loved it!), a rainbow/leopard print pencil that all peeled off after sharpening it, and 2 folders with white seals and kitten on them that came with stickers. I felt like My little life was completed at that moment and my mom was and is still is my hero!!’ Sorry for the long; poorly written novel. I just got a little too exited when that memory resurfaced! ;)

[@danycehand2263]

I remember I begged my mom for a Lisa Frank light switch cover for my room growing up. It was the only Lisa Frank thing I think I ever owned

[@lujehnrahman5426]

Those butterfly clips... I need them!!! 😂💙💜🧡💛

[@offwitmelkychrms]

Haha my school had “trailers” too, we had all our math classes in there and they called them “portables” -I guess because they wanted to be fancy 😆🥴

[@TeddyLovesAxl]

Our trailers had A/C and the main school didnt so i loved classes in them! 😂

[@jacquelynemiles2197]

We called ours temporaries 🤷🏼‍♀️🤣

[@caseyhasler413]

yup portables lol

[@heezypeasy8611]

Haha my high school had "portables" too! Your comment just Unlocked a core memory 😂

[@xmintx123]

Ours were T-Buildings

[@shelbeepollino6025]

As a 90’s girl, I don’t think I can watch this. I choose blissful ignorance 🤣🌈🦁🐆❤️🧡💛💚💙💜

[@UzumakiDonnoHinata]

I don't usually do any sort of self promo, but I'm a commission artist. Hmu if you want me to design you a Lisa Frank style character or animal without all the baggage lol. 😂 Edit: I'm a 90s girl too lol.

[@kaitlynwalls9507]

Same, I love Lisa frank 😅

[@cazzi6927]

Same!!

[@vincentvega3968]

Right? LoL - still watching though, can’t help myself!

[@badluckb0y8]

*hug*

[@tiffanyvatcher7428]

G'day Bailey, I just adore your podcasts! Not just for the way you present, but also for the topics you and your team choose to investigate. It's always so interesting! Thank you for, what is always, the highlight of my week. Cheers! Tiff😊

[@ally2782]

I remember seeing the rainbows & music notes on back of the Lisa Frank building as a kid and always wondered what was there - and begged my mom each time to take me. It wasn't until after they closed the building for tours like 10 years ago that I realized what it was and never even got to go! This 80s baby was heartbroken.

[@angelawebber6619]

As a 90s kid who used to have Lisa Frank everything, I’m a bit scared to watch 😂

[@BaileySarian]

omg LUCKY!!!

[@lyn7225]

I still have Lisa Frank everything. Binders came back out last year along with pencils, stickers, folders, and that nail polish you press on. I have it all and I love it all. I had coloring books of hers when I was younger along with all the other stuff. Absolutely obsessed. As an 80s baby yes stickers were amazing and still are!!!!

[@catimorrill7724]

Same!

[@chelseajensen5883]

I saved my giant stuff leopard for my nephew

[@TruGhost.]

@@BaileySarian Bailey, you should consider Trademarking and Copyrighting "Dark History".

[@MJ-ip8mq]

When Bailey said James was trying to act like Scarface in Candy Land I almost lost it lol

[@dorindadouglas2847]

Same!!! I laughed so loud in the middle of work!

[@kitcowool]

😹

[@angelvanord3766]

I can't chill while listening but I can listen while I'm at work🥰❤️ so thank you for being a beautiful creature and amazing content creator! We love you Bailey!!

[@denalynn8153]

The Queen of storytelling, thank you.

[@sarahcarroll8206]

We were BROKE broke when I was a kid, but managed to get my hot little hands on exactly ONE Lisa Frank school supply. It was a rainbow panda (!) Trapper Keeper. Right after I got it, my school banned Trapper Keepers. 😭😂

[@nataliajankowska8187]

we need a dark history on WHY your school banned them in the first place 😂

[@beckydustin4713]

Inquiring minds need to know

[@C-SD]

Of course they did.

[@Sandi.Beyette]

My son just got a Trapper Keeper! They're coming back. Lol

[@kaylamessenger2423]

My school banned them as well. My kids school still doesn’t let kids have them.

[@janblackkat7607]

The smell at Spencer's is all the janky cheapness ,toxic chemicals and cheap incense! Lol..you are the best Bailey! Just unpacked some storage stuff that's been hidden in oblivion and found some Lisa Frank stickers!! Haha

[@iphotons]

I literally stopped the video to check the comments to see if anyone would know what the Spencer smell was haha thanks

[@jenb6910]

I can smell it now.. 🤣

[@janemerenda399]

Incense?

[@The_momur]

Plásticos

[@LCx829]

I’m so old and can’t remember the smell. When I was a 90s teen Spencer’s was where you shopped for gag gifts and concert posters.

[@almiragemgorus89]

I really love the way you promote things. It's very natural and I believe you use them yourself. I really like your videos

[@irenemartinot8286]

Thank you Bailey for your wonderfull story telling! Listening to you here in france.

[@Kat-tr2ig]

James is the perfect example of why you NEVER get into a relationship with a narcissist, because they will do everything in their power to destroy you, even if that means destroying themself.

[@jennifermallet1889]

Type of person that would cut their nose off to despite their own face😈

[@annamossity8879]

Both of them are narcissists!

[@squarebear619]

I am just now realizing how privileged I grew up because I never thought Lisa Frank was considered expensive and loved it in elementary school. And yes, stickers were all the rage in the 80s and up to mid 90s. I used to love when my piano teacher would gift me with sticker prizes especially the scratch n sniff, lol. I still have stickers I received back then on my Special Box caboodle of life keepsakes.

[@msthomas911ify]

Born in the early 90’s i had Lisa Frank folders, note books, sticker books & pencils. plus room decor. i didn’t realize how spoiled i was until now 🥰😩

[@Beauty_By_Jenn_Marie]

I just discovered you and girl! You are amazing! Your story telling skills are fire! I was able to get a few Lisa Frank things when I was a kid, but that Panda trapper keeper, I always wanted!

[@elizabethholliday3046]

I interviewed with the Lisa Frank Company when I was going to U of A in Tucson in the 90s. This was like memory lane watching this...I love that you included pics of their funky building. I got the impression it was a toxic work environment just from the in person interview. But I didn't know the rumors and was new there and just looking for a job and was dazzled by the Lisa Frank name. I very much got the vibe that I wasn't hired because of fatphobia. I'm 90% sure I interviewed with Rhonda because I was interviewed by the head of HR which was a VERY condescending woman. I was more than qualified but they were pushing this "image" that I kept feeling during the interview alluded to my physical size. But for being such a "creative" company - they had a VERY cold work environment and VERY rigid rules which I had been given a handout of their "rules" to go over and had already got the impression just from that that I didn't want to be hired anyway. Companies like this rely on their name and hype - a lesson people now should take heed of. Just because you see hype around a company doesn't mean it's a great company to work for.

[@laratapia8846]

I remember always seeing help wanted ads in the classified section of the Tucson Citizen!

[@annamossity8879]

The Rainbow Gulag.

[@naomih1073]

I collected stickers in the 80s and specifically had a whole book of different teddy bear stickers (i also collected stuffed teddy bears until I was 13). I was so obsessed with Lisa Frank stickers. They weren't expensive in the 80s but we didnt have all the amazing stuff the younger generations did - pretty much stickers, pencils, stationary etc in Lisa Frank designs. Any weekend I had money or my mom would give me $2 she would take me to this specific store where I picked stickers one by one from rolls of stickers - it was the most fun. With $2 - I would leave with a bunch of stickers because they were priced from $.10 to $.25 each. It was the highlight of my weekends!

[@ketamineis4horses]

would love to see you post a vid of your collection tbh!!! - 19 year old sticker/stuffie lover :)

[@amberdearwester7882]

That how I remember it! Funny we all had a sticker book collection lol!!!!

[@amberdearwester7882]

I also loved the scratch and sniff ones lol!!!

[@cryptid_kate]

NOT RHONDA WITH THE DOUBLE CROSS NECKLACE COMBO

[@aprilzeller625]

Love the effort you go into making these videos Ty so much

[@Thisiskoko104]

I am shook it was never mentioned that Lisa Frank was supposed to do a makeup collab with Glamour Doll Makeup, ran a Kickstarter that got hundreds of thousands of dollars, and never fulfilled the orders. I was so pumped for that and it was a huge disappointment that it never came to fruition, a ton of people ended up getting their money refunded and Glamour Dolls makeup ended up suing them.

[@hillarygordier1919]

Yep, and now LF is on everything and doing collabs with tons of products

[@oliviaalmazan4664]

I was one that was excited about this, never happened and I never got my money back for this a lot of people didn’t!

[@vampiregoddess57abl]

thank you for this comment. I did not feel like watching this whole video and dying to know if that collab was mentioned. I am furious it was not as I AM ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE. I am owed $38 or product since 2018. Nothing we got 0 updates, 0 product, 0 respect. To this day I will message and email the company and they just say "Thanks for messaging us." and that is literally all. Disgraceful. Yet she continues on and on making more items and collabs. May karma bite her.

[@Sierraton]

Actually, a lot of people DIDN'T get their money refunded (yes, I'm one of them). $100 down the tubes.

[@vampiregoddess57abl]

@@Sierraton NO ONE got their money back lol

[@miaaa1618]

I’m from Tucson! When I saw this title I screamed, I was like “she’s going to have to say Tucson!” The Lisa Frank building is still up but blocked off. My coworkers mom worked there and she says that Lisa Frank would hire undocumented folks and then call border patrol to avoid paying the employees 😞

[@sarahhayes9906]

I'm in Phoenix. That's so messed up she would do that!

[@Mandabuns]

Girl im from Tuc too I was thinking the same thing when I saw the title!

[@brown.frown.]

I've heard a few vile things about Lisa, including that she is racist & homophobic.

[@elizabethholliday3046]

I went to college at U of A and interviewed there through a temp agency

[@sirenofsound]

I would NOT put it past her!!! I remember when the Lisa Frank building finally closed up... Sigh

[@bethsamson5646]

I never knew any of the LF back story! As an 80s kid, this hurts my heart. On another note, I have been introducing a new generation to LF with my 2 year old granddaughter! I have the Morphe eyeshadow pallette and she will bring it to me, asking me to open it so she can see the pretties!

[@tiffanythompson2581]

You go gurl! I always laugh while I learn, watching your videos! ❤️