Got Pregnant After Leaving My Ex Over His Sister Claire's Lies, And Now His Whole Family Is Beggi...

[@VeryCuriousSimmer]

I cant believe she said she HOPES HER NEWPHEW DIES Just because she hates op omfg wtf is wrong with claire

[@warnesia5276]

Simple answer: She was traumatized by her so called ex "friend" but main bully, Op. Now that their grown, Op, not having any remorse, has decided instead of attuning for their past role and behavior, knowingly pursued a relationship with brother and retraumatize Clair. Clair had no escape from Op. What Clair said was vile. Its exactly what I would expect of a victim that has been triggered and caged. Clair doesn't see her nephew, all Clair will every see is Op and brother's betrayal. The baby is the symbol that they will never leaving her life and a contestant reminder of the trauma Op put her thru. Or would have if she hadn't been disowned. Op is trash. Worse trash there is because Op, leaning on the racist mindset of her parent is white so I can't be racist, still has not acknowledged their wrongs. No safe space of healing for Clair. Just more betrayal and growing hatred. That's what's wrong with her.

[@virtualplastique]

@@warnesia5276Your trolling right? Op never said anything racist it was a friend who she cut off not long after that incident

[@warnesia5276]

@@virtualplastique Op fails the reverse the race test in this situation. Behaviors too can be racist. According to Op, Op cut off friend LATER after the black kids left that friend. Op was way too comfortable stating that she continuing to associate with the other racist who repeatedly disrespectful to Op's FRIEND more than once.

[@catch22ash]

​@@virtualplastiqueShe did not immediately cut off the friend cos she secretly shared her racist opinions and liked watching a white girl getting bullied and "put in her place".

[@lavenderpotato5734]

@@virtualplastiqueIgnore them they’re just defending Claire in every reply that doesn’t see Claire as the victim

[@XYZdude00]

Kinda impossible when a sibling has a pre existing blood dude with your partner. You have to pick one and can't keep both

[@MikeMalone8]

......dame high school must have been a interesting show for the teachers

[@anuradhagupta4004]

The zoom meeting was just jaw dropping 😭😭💀💀

[@CalebDurocher]

I wonder what happened after with story one. Did the family disown Claire? I wonder if she went bat shit crazy and did some crazy poop to get back at op.... I hope they were able to work something out. And i hope they keep little liam away drom claire that racist psycho.

[@ri.b.8700]

IKR. Update is definitely needed.

[@benitomartinez2106]

I hope they work it out in the first story. His sister sounds insane though.

[@leazimridaniels8552]

I feel like a lot is missing in story one. Story two is just wow, Lord help the child

[@VeryCuriousSimmer]

Maybe but still you absolutely don't say " I hope your baby dies " even if theres more going on that's evil as hell the baby did nothing wrong

[@warnesia5276]

There is a lot missing from story 1. Its a heartbreaking tale because Op wrote it and yet my take away is Op never once said she apologized to Clair sincerely for her own actions. Just kept repeating the fact she has a white dad. One thing for sure, Op was and continues to be a bully. Clair has lost her family because of a choice to be friends with Op when she was a child. That's a tragedy. Bullies love power. Op now has power over Clair, power of the brother, her son and the rest of the family. Clair probably thought she was free from Op then bam, Op shows up again. I would hate to be Clair.

[@SayItLikeJay]

⁠@@warnesia5276what would OP need to apologize for? She didn’t make any racist comment. Her ex-friend did. The friend group immediately told her she was wrong and cut that friend off in front of Clair. Clair then began to bully her for simply being friends with someone before knowing they had those thoughts. Many people accounted for that. Clair lied about the situation to get her family on her side. She then began to make derogatory comments about mixed people being promiscuous and wished death on OP’s son.

[@DOG-mm3sg]

I'm so happy I'm not the only one.

[@warnesia5276]

​@@SayItLikeJay Op needs to apologize because when confronted with racism, towards a friend at that, she gave what amounted to some weak hearted, "don't do that", and her and her friends still continued to hang out with her. That is just as bad, well in Op's case worse as she was supposedly Clair's friend, as the one saying the vile racist remarks. I'm not sure what type of households the people that seems to think I'm in the wrong here was raised in, but in my family and the families I grow up around, If one kid was saying or doing something wrong and we didn't shut that crap down and walk away the first time it happen, we were as guilty as they were. Op admitted that this friend on multiple occasions made these comments about Clair. It was only after the black kids left that Op decided to leave the friend. Its sad because Clair was targeted for being Op's white friend. Op grow up and hasn't apologized and still acting like she did nothing wrong. I acknowledge that what Clair said as awful. At the same time I'm not going to act like I've never said some awful things when I was wronged. And meant it just like I am sure Clair meant what she said. I guess I should ask people who has thinks I'm wrong, if your kid was like Clair, who in early to mid teens had friend had turn away her because she wasn't black or because of whatever race, would you be cool with that friend? If your kid finally realized that this isn't my friend and decided to defend themself, would you be cool with that friend? Would after years of thinking this is settled and never having to deal with this so called friend again, you get reintroduced and watch as your child is trigger and spiraling while the friend is acting like the embodiment of the shocked Pikachu face at time and other times like she the Queen of Sheba , would you be cool with that friend?

[@Thaddius0]

OP clearly painting herself in a better light than reality. She likely never defended Claire to her own friends, never checked whether Claire was okay and just ignored her thinking that was fine. Then she pikachu faces when Claire stopped liking her. She wasnt a racist before but OP turned her into one

[@heyyitsjanea]

story 1 was…odd

[@AuSN17]

This has to be bait, she didnt cut off the racist friend untill multiple accounts. Guilty by association is a huge factor in grade school. She was mixed and still hung around a girl who would technically disrespect half of her heritage. Then started a fight because of words, good looks. And had a "race war" in high school because of it. Lady, you're not a victim. She partook in the deplorable behavior she blamed his sister on, said sister, who her friend bullied. Did she even apologize for smacking his sister or did years go by, and then she popped back up. Op should have walked early on. I can't imagine what she was thinking. But at least now she can play a prideful survivor for her kid. The guy is a spineless moron, both girls are a holes, and the family caught in between are the victims here.

[@leahunfeigned5955]

They were kids lol. Teens are kids. The prefrontal cortex that controls impulse control and common sense doesn't mature until the mid to late 20s depending on the individual. Claire needed to move on. They were adults and she was still holding on to childhood beef 🙄.

[@AuSN17]

@leahunfeigned5955 If you're saying they're late bloomers in terms of common sense? I'd agree with you. Why did OP think dating into a family where there were unresolved issues would end well? Ignorance/arrogance? Why couldn't the sister get over childhood grievances? Pride/pettiness? Neither one had the common sense to avoid the situation they found themselves in. They both are the problem. Both got themselves into this when everything suggested this was a late night sitcom in waiting.

[@jayking2228]

​​@@AuSN17 maybe bc she didn't know??? Also the fact that the sister's story could be disproven by just asking people is telling, being friends with someone you constantly call out isn't the same as being a passive friend. Yall are only dog piling on OP for protecting her child from people that are so easily swayed by lies that literally just needed a conversation to dispel

[@AuSN17]

@jayking2228 she didn't know? You date for year(s) and not see a PICTURE of your S/O's family? That's a stretch, especially if this family is so close that they follow the story of one of their own without question. If you're telling me she didn't ask about family/siblings/family dynamics, how invested in that relationship was she? She knew the second she met the family and thought this should work out fine. Sticks and stones. Doesn't excuse adding to someone's discomfort, then hitting that person cause they called ya a name. By that logic, the sister should have been throwing hands far earlier. Yet, OP made it physical and never mentioned an apology. She came back into someone's life after contributing to their unease with no resolution nor work to give closure. She just assumed that they should get over it. That is arrogance. She thinks that the sisters' feelings toward her are invalid because of time, not because of a resolution. That is immaturity. She wasn't willing to swallow her pride and own her part. She wanted to not look back at the damage done and move on. There were plenty of opportunities to figure this out before or plenty of time to leave the second she realized what family she was dating into. Like I said, both those girls are @-holes, the brother a spineless fool, and the family (that honestly should have already heard about OP after the altercation the girls had) were the victims caught in the middle. OP isn't innocent, yet she acts like it to feel better about her being a single mother.

[@HaTrEd-b3e]

“BLACK PEOPLE CANT BE RASIST” Penny Proud

[@rogueshark23]

Everyone is a little bit racist.

[@HaTrEd-b3e]

@ FAX

[@danihomes7697]

Black can't be racist is true. Look up the definition racism. Black people can be very prejudiced, just like everyone else.

[@Aj-mn4pv]

No matter where you go some people got some hate to others

[@merlijnkoopman1169]

is you stupid or just dont have a fucking brain

[@equalfire]

100% on the first story that OP here is the toxic one. and 100% she is leaving many pieces out of this puzzle to make her seem like a victim. And even then she sounds horrid. She literally uses the fathers Child as weapon against the father and thinks she is in the right. The story started already not really innocent bc the sister was insulted bc of her skin and it feels as if op just states here she defended the sister. If that would be true why would op even stay with such a racist friend? Sorry that does not add up. Again 100% OP is leaving things out and lying to make herself look better. If the father of the child and his sister could speak i bet that things get cleared up and we can see thru this fog created by op

[@harashe1000]

"He told me he wanted to be a business lawyer, and I told him I wanted to be a notary" These fake stories are insane lmao-- going to law school to be a notary hahahah

[@MillenniaRincon]

I hate to say this, but OP better hope and pray that David doesn’t have a conscience and starts fighting for custody. I understand what his sister did was not right but at the same time she’s telling the father of the child he has no rights to the child as well as alienating the child fromhis side of the family. Because at the end of the day, eventually, this child will find out the truth, and one or two things could happen that child will end up despite the mother and hate the mother due to the fact that she let him not see his side of the family or despite the Father and hate the father for things that happen with the mother. At the end of the day you push those things aside for the better health of the child the child is the important person in all this in this equation and due to this is why I feel that OP is sort of the a hole. If I was David, I would fight for custody and fight for 50-50 custody and tell the judge that the parent is alienating the child due to their past mistakes. And see what OP does because right now OP is holding all the bargaining chips, but once that baby is born, that baby has the right to know his father and knows the side of the family

[@ri.b.8700]

What judge would allow a mixed race child to a family who has a family member, a Aunt, who literally said that she hopes that she hopes that the new born chokes to death and dies. Does that sound like a safe environment for a child?

[@KBright2012]

I mean the family is a bit twisted, and she has a right to be cautious since she seen them at their worst. Anyone, man or woman, who went through what OP did would try to protect their child first. Everything else would fall second. Should she kept the child a secret? Probably not, but at the same time knowing how the person that supposed to love you and how the parents of the person supposed to have loved you treated you, who wouldn't be fearful to let their child around them. Was David misguided/confused at times, yes. But he's a grown man that needed to make better decisions if he loved her like he claimed. And just because OP was pregnant, shouldn't be the key factor of 'I need to get my sh*t together'. But I get it, the man nearly lost his whole family and the love of his life due to his sister. Yes, he has the right to know his child, but he needed to get his mindset right earlier. No woman wants to bring a child, whether the man knows or not, in this world if they're potentially could be in harms. I think OP is coming around though, she's just cautious, which any normal new parent would be. For her to even let him be involved in the late stage of her pregnancy, shows she in some way still cares about him. I've seen men/women COMPLETELY cut the other side of the person off and nearly gone ghost on them with ONLY weekend monitored visitations. So, in OP case I just think she's overly cautious and is terrified of what could happen since she already seen the actions of David's family at their worst. And if she didn't want anything to do with his family, I very much doubt she would have allowed the zoom call. And David is finally standing up and setting boundaries as a man that desires and wishes to protect his family.

[@ValirianDefiance]

Wile I empathize with Claire to a point she has taken this grudge way to far and OP has made some serous mistakes but this conflict has escalated beyond any reasonable degree given the inciting incident. not cutting off a racist "friend" soon enough does not justify this level of hate this many years later.

[@MaliaMydnight]

I'm sorry, but the aspirin pill comment was hilarious. I can understand why she'd be mad and hurt about it, but when people just ✨️assume✨️ things, including that people are the same as they were in HIGH SCHOOL, just baffles me. OP wasn't racist, but obviously something about the situation that made Claire big mad for years after the event. Like. 🫴🏽 At what point do you just, get over it? Grow tf up, realize it's not worth the energy, and move on. Should the person that hurt you show up, it's natural to be cautious, sure, but, wait and see if they're the person you remembered them to be? When do you just do that? Genuinely asking, because this grudge concept is beyond me.

[@ValirianDefiance]

I know grudges and I know how easy it can be to misplace blame. this seems more like a fight witch escalated to the point the conflict is such a mess that it doesn't even mater what started it.

[@MaliaMydnight]

@@ValirianDefiance Like. I can understand grudges, I know I certainly have a few, but when so much time passes? Again, natural to be wary, because some people don't change at all, so some caution, sure. But ffs. You're spot on about blame, though. People always want someone or something to blame, either so they don't have to look in the mirror and believe they're to blame, or that there's no one at all to blame, but hell or high water, they'll find somewhere that's JUUUST close enough to misplace the blame. My therapist once said that when people get defensive over something, even to Claire levels and beyond, it's usually because they need something validated. Maybe OP or someone should have sat with Claire and validated how she felt, as I'm sure she was horribly embarrassed, and with her close friend being in that group (though openly disagreeing with the comment), that could be an overall painful event. So maybe she just needed someone/OP to say "you have the room to feel this way, it was wrong what was said to you, and how you feel is valid" but also gently remind her that while her feelings about said incident are valid, that she can't blame people who just happened to be standing there, openly disagreeing with what was said. If she chooses to stay mad after that, well, sometimes people just wanna be mad. 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@CuentosdeEmociones-v4l]

i like it

[@braapybobby]

OP in the first story starting to be no better with her grudges

[@Ghost-0626]

Op is completely in the right. She tried to be the bigger person let it go but the sister was just rude and nasty. No in his family said anything not even the ex. While yes they did stand up to her later on it was too late the damage has been done. No sane would want to be associated with this family. She’s not holding grudges because she’s being petty. She’s looking out for her child. After everything that has happened I wouldn’t trust the ex family either.

[@braapybobby]

@@Ghost-0626 yeah, but if this is new/unexpected behavior by the sister to the family, why wouldn't they believe her? The sister isn't just a friend or acquaintance. It's literally their flesh and blood. If they didn't know she had a problem, why wouldn't they at least err on the side of caution? With how hard they ALL are attempting to force her to apologize, I think they truly did see the wrongs of their ways and truly didn't think the sister was blowing it so out of proportion

[@catch22ash]

​@@Ghost-0626She shouldn't have gone after the brother of the girl that her friend bullied in the first place. What a crybully creep.

[@AlexRising_]

@@catch22ashshe didn’t do it on purpose. He was selling a book she wanted and they were at the same college.

[@catch22ash]

@@AlexRising_ Oh yeah and he just happened to be the only student selling his used books and she just happened to date him out of the billions of men in the world. She's a lying manipulative bully and racist.

[@nicolebixby3866]

1st OP is pathetic. Like love your child more than you hate your ex. I'm so sick of people using their children for their own purposes. It's his child as much as it is your child. You had no right to take that experience away from him you don't want to be with him or deal with his family that's totally understandable but to not tell him you're pregnant..... that's not okay.

[@HaTrEd-b3e]

That black girl in the beginning was about that I have to respect it 🫡

[@DOG-mm3sg]

Op is playing the victim to perfection. 6.9 points across the board. Using her child as a power tool is utterly disgusting and I despise OP for that and the father should run away and have nothing to do with her.

[@carenxatu5962]

As someone who was literally conceived with the intention to be used as a tool of manipulation… I feel like OP absolutely wasn’t doing that. Perhaps it seems like it due to the paternal side of the family fixating on her baby as much as they were. But she didn’t even tell them about her pregnancy. She was also very resistant to them trying to be more involved. The baby was absolutely not being used as a power tool. Family members simply saw him as an essential part of their circle and made it all about him.

[@CG-yb6zj]

If anything, THEY were using the child as more a weapon then her before they even got there when they only wanted anything to do with her again and 'apologize' when they happened to find out she was pregnant, and the first to bear the grandchild. If what they claim was true, that David did some 'research' they should've BEEN talked to her and apologized, but no, they only wanted in the child's life and trued guilt tripping by reason of "We're family now/our first grandchild". She had something they wanted and were in the right place at the wrong time for her when she had zero intentions of letting them know or be involved, and they outright ignored her boundaries again and pressed on.

[@ri.b.8700]

She didn't even tell him about the child at all. His parents saw her at the grocery store. She had zero issues raising the child all by herself. And what good parent would allow their own child into a family where an Aunt verbally stated that she wished her own newborn nephew chokes and dies. Any Mom worthy of the name would keep her child far away from such a family.

[@arthurcosta1657]

I agree op is also a asshole

[@MargraveFel]

Is it racism or just pattern recognition? Seems like story 1 is a cautionary tale for humans to stick to their own communities.

[@KBright2012]

I mean, my family is blended with different communities and we don't have issues. Each type of communities is different. In my family; although, both my parents are black, I have cousins/aunts who are married to someone outside their race/background. And they're chill. I mean certain members families keep to their own community/background during family celebrations. But then there are times many get along and just mingle about as one. It just depends.

[@MargraveFel]

@KBright2012 glad it works in your family as good as you believe it does. But it would not be a thing if it wasnt known globally that certain communities come with a guaranteed increase in certain statistics. Example: european countries have learned that the rqp3 of minor boys and girls went up 400% to 1300%, depending on city, per every 10000 muslims they took in. Meanwhile the % of native criminals has fallen.

[@KBright2012]

@@MargraveFel So...are we not including the white male Christian/Catholic preachers that pray on children... or what??? Or the case of Gisele Pelicot, where 51 men SA her? Like I can go ON and ON, including the release of over 70,000 men who are part of a group chat that just got caught sharing SA tactics? The list is endless. I think every community has their problems, some worse or more than others, but I will be the LAST to point fingers at one community when NO ONE community is clean and clear

[@KBright2012]

@NowioFel So, you're going to target that community as if there's not several other communities that have done wrong? I refuse to point fingers for more than enough communities to have their share of problems. Have you not seen the Cath0lic/Christ1an priests that have been in trouble for SA. Or the 70,000 cases of men using giving SA tactics? There are many cases that needs to be addressed in order for us to have a better world. I just don't target just one. And I know someone reported the last comment, what's freedom of speech if it's backed by real reports that can easily be found 🤔

[@KBright2012]

​@@MargraveFel So, you're going to target that community as if there's not several other communities that have done wrong? I refuse to point fingers for more than enough communities to have their share of problems. Have you not seen the Cath0lic/Christ1an priests that have been in trouble for SA. Or the 70,000 cases of men using giving SA tactics? There are many cases that need to be addressed in order for us to have a better world. I just don't target just one. And I know someone reported the last comment, what's freedom of speech if it's backed by real reports that can easily be found 🤔

[@clarissamiles]

White person saying a black/mixed person is racist is hilarious and not realistic😒

[@antoinemilien6864]

Very realistic. Can’t tell you how many times I’ve heard that logic in real life. Always makes me life and it remains stupid no matter how many times I hear it.

[@leahunfeigned5955]

I'm fully black and had another black woman call me racist lol.

[@arthurcosta1657]

Why mixed People cant bê racist?