Government Mandated Kill Switches & Breathalyzers For All New Cars Starting in 2026! (Halt Act)

[@jameshoncoop8511]

HUGE 4th and 5th amendment violation

[@welhari6181]

They are already listening to everything that is said in the vehicle's! Big brother at it's best!

[@brownwrench]

Self incrimination?

[@graywolf2694]

You think they care?

[@SvendleBerries]

@@brownwrench Nope. Just a fact.

[@willysnowman]

ok lady

[@criticalevent]

I'll have to remember this in 24 years when I can afford a 2026 model.

[@bingbong5939]

Hahahahhaah

[@izzyplusplusplus1004]

Based lol

[@Triple88a]

Lets be real, what will end up happening is DMV wont let you get your vehicle registered unless you pay some outrageous price to add a device to your 2001 honda civic.

[@danmyers9372]

@@Triple88a- Yep, new cars are just the entry point. It won’t stop there. Socialists goals are to control every aspect of your life.

[@goosenutz2502]

Great point lol

[@ryanehlis426]

Remember when people being arrested for “pre-crime” was just a movie?

[@dylanmccallister1888]

In arizona sleeping in your car in the back seat with the keys in the glovebox while over the limit is still a dui "because you have access to your vehicle" Thats how the law is written. Nobody has bothered to bring it to the supreme court. So they think they have precedent to do stuff like this

[@MrPAULONEAL]

It had Tom Cruise in it.

[@MrPAULONEAL]

@@dylanmccallister1888 In some states your car doesn't even have to be in running condition.

[@mikesuch9021]

The ATF director that they did not pick 4 years ago wanted to do the same exact thing. Look up criminal records and see who might commit a crime than arrest them for it

[@mikesuch9021]

No more cars would be great.

[@RedBeardTheFirst]

Punish the people who dont break the law because other people break the law, where have i seen that before

[@RYTHMICRIOT]

E V E R Y W H E R E

[@llamacebu216]

Has nothing to do with people breaking the law. It's about control. Just like texas and the porn control. They're slowly taking away your freedom. Why do you think they made white collar jobs more than blue collar. They want the guys to turn sissy so they can control the mass

[@pjbth]

Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, afganistan

[@wesw9586]

It's not really about that. This is just pure control. Soviet Russia style. You will not move about the country freely. Plain and simple.

[@ltethan649]

this is basically how all preemptive laws are.

[@frankrizzo2724]

This has nothing to do with safety and everything to do with control. The federal government has absolutely no interest in your safety.

[@MattH-wg7ou]

Absolutely. Everything they do is about more control.

[@hrd1790]

If we’re late on insurance payment, tag renewal, don’t pay a fine off go your car for the lucky ones that can still afford a new vehicle

[@bullnibler]

EXACTLY

[@Ada-zn3pw]

Definitely about control. How can anyone in America support this it's crazy

[@NS-hs6lt]

Some of the government cares about us all. They tend to be left leaning. Seatbelt laws, fair pay, as safe workplaces as possible, 5 day workweek, etc., etc. American workers when they fought for these rights, literally had machine guns fired at them and many were murdered by private mercenaries. Unfortunately so many of you are ignorant of history. Conservatives pretend to care about life by banning abortion! But when the baby is born, too bad figure it out. Infant mortality has skyrocket in places like Misssissippi and Alabama due to no nearby hospitals and poor nutrition. You all don’t actually care about life. I think Jesus said something about the hypocrites…

[@The2ndProtectsTheRest]

This isn't about safety or "impairment"... this is about complete and total control and giving them the ability to shut you down at their whim. Nothing more nothing less!

[@oliverheaviside2539]

“For your safety” and “for the children” is always the excuse of tyrunts to control everything.

[@castlegarage6969]

You are exactly right just like gun control also

[@The2ndProtectsTheRest]

@@castlegarage6969 100%

[@michaeldomanski9352]

Amen !!! I've been saying the same thing.... control the movement of people!

[@The2ndProtectsTheRest]

@@michaeldomanski9352 it's the same reason they're trying to push all the electric vehicle mandates as well because they know it limits people's range of travel and where they can go... this is all part of UN Agenda 2030

[@bobbarker3781]

Time for a new government. One that serves We The People not we the lobbyists

[@ChuckThree]

For once lobbyist have nothing to do with a particular bill. Like the open border policy and voting rights for non-citizens, this is a maneuver to capture/protect significant minority voting blocks

[@KE458S]

New government? No. It's we the people's. They aren't for us.

[@HunnyBee23]

We need to free ourselves from their paper system first in order to be truly sovereign. Research how to become sovereign.

[@daveassanowicz186]

Like the US Auto Manufacturers don't have lobbyists 😂

[@BrainRotKills]

​@@HunnyBee23you mean research how to misinterpret the constitution to make it fit your delulu mindset 😂😂

[@robp.1995]

I don’t even drink but I will never buy a new car again if they put that on them. I’m tired of paying for other peoples stupidity. Our freedoms are being taken away one by one folks.

[@youdosuck]

Cars are not a right

[@anon556]

They'll just make it illegal to buy " high emissions" used cars in 2027 and force you to either retrofit your current vehicle or they'll revoke your driving privileges. You will never be able to best the people who create the law by following the law.

[@welhari6181]

They already listen to what you say in the vehicle's know!

[@JoshuaPlays99]

Imagine getting treated like an alcoholic just because other people cant put the keys down. Ridiculous, I don't even drink often and this would totally put me off buying any new car. They're already pushing it far enough with the face and eye tracking.

[@TRUMPeterswan1624]

tell ur wife to vote for trump or ure getting a divorce then

[@notdreadyet33]

IF safety was the goal, they wouldn't hand out driver's licenses to anyone with a pulse.

[@TheTexican05]

Beautifully stated! The drivers here in TX are either human restrictor plates for progress, or kamikaze idiots. Any fool can get a DL, and that’s the problem… 🤦‍♂️

[@therealproracer7284]

​@TheTexican05 coming from Quebec, wtf is wrong with the driver's Ed system Or lack of it rather 😭 Everyday I have to actively avoid at least 1 collision here

[@oceanbytez847]

If you think Texas is bad Arkansas is worse. They literally have you answer 10 questions and then you make 4 right hand turns around the block and that's it. No verification of further education, no real testing on basic driving skills, or anything else.

[@notdreadyet33]

@@therealproracer7284 They're a joke. It's been instilled that as long as you're sober, you don't need to worry about anything.

[@joejones9520]

we'd have to wear helmets in cars if they really cared

[@waynebake1123]

More bullshit to drive up the cost of vehicles.

[@Diesel4242]

Exactly! They have taken a good automobile and completely screwed it up with all of their bills and laws.

[@ManiacalManiac]

It's ok because the WEF doesn't want you driving anyway

[@maxdragon15]

​@@ManiacalManiac you will own nothing, and you will be happy!

[@CBourn48223]

Another point of failure. I have a recall on my 2023 for the powder coating on a baby seat anchor. They can't even get basic safety features right.

[@jdc8352]

And parts to fail

[@kidwave1]

Using drunk driving as an excuse to force these garbage CONTROL TACTICS upon us, is just that, ...AN EXCUSE!

[@whuffer5103]

..but.....the kids....

[@77chevy4x4]

If the PUBLIC Respected the use of the vehicles correctly. Would big brother be stepping on our necks !?? Products don’t kill people Ignorance of human does

[@anon556]

​@@77chevy4x4that's the dumbest shit ever uttered in the KZbin comment section. Congratulations.

[@Eluderatnight]

MAAD is an openly commie orginization...

[@Zachary77]

Its the same thing they are doing with gun rights

[@Jimmy-nv7mn]

A great example of why no bill should exceed 10 pages, if you can't state your intentions in 10 pages you have no business getting elected. It would keep congress from sneaking crap in unrelated bills

[@TheBeardedLitch]

Congress doesn't write most of these bills. Big companies do.

[@sscontracting]

I say no bill should exceed 1 page and 1 topic per bill

[@kevinpritchard3592]

Exactly

[@josuecaleb5053]

I see your point, but at the same time if you make bills vague, then this gives the government a wide margin to say things are "technically" included in it. If it's specific, only what is in the bill is what is regulated. Ever heard of the interstate commerce clause in the constitution? It was so broad that it gave congress insane amounts of regulatory power that they continue to add to.

[@coliimusic]

The ECU monitoring will actually effect all Sober drivers too, accident avoidance? Nope, car shuts off. Rough road? You're drunk, cops are on their way. Trying to experience your new sportscar? We immediately saw the moment your car went above 55, cops are on their way. The ECU Interlock will make it so any form of driving that isn't the exact traffic format will be impossible, no more spirited driving, no more speeding to make time on long distance drives, and actually a lot of common manuevers that safe drivers do will be tracked and deemed illegal. You could have a perfect driving record for decades and lose your license soon after this is implemented. Welcome to America, You Voted, but We Decided.

[@Bazookify]

its alright bill at the tire shop will have the work around in a week.

[@clintlasher8436]

Clearly and succinctly put.

[@vidalott]

The horse has left the barn, on so much of this stuff already. You can’t even repair, or modify, these new autos. It’s like you don’t even own new vehicles. You’re paying for the privilege of using the company’s tech for a while. Paying for the privilege of being a permanent customer, and having your user experience dictated to you. The line of consent is continually being pushed. How far all of this goes will be very interesting.

[@stormcapien5245]

One thing that concerns me is learning drivers that are not going to be as skilled as professionals getting dinged and shut down on long winding roads in rural areas.

[@howlinwulf]

Yep just renting ​@@vidalott

[@pjbth]

Sorry i cant come into work, my car thinks im drunk again 😂

[@fauxque5057]

Sorry I'm late to work. I swerved to avoid a kid chasing a ball into the street, my car shut off and I hit the kid anyway because I couldn't control the car. So I'll be in later

[@peachdaddy]

Sucks cause you have to pitch the car left to right in order to help diagnose a bad wheel bearing

[@Coupe420]

​@peachdaddy there are a few other safer options to check bearings.

[@matthewbeaver5026]

​@@peachdaddyall you need to do is lift the suspected tire. Then push at 12 and 6. Is there wiggle. Found your issue. * that's not to say this isn't complete and utter BS. Govern=control ment=mind. 2030. You will own nothing and be happy... or so I'm told.

[@atillathehung2000]

@@Coupe420there are, but I have had a wheel bearing that was noisy when loaded but didn’t make noise when in the air. It also had no play. The only reason I know it was the wheel bearing is because I replaced it and it went away. Sometimes making sure which side the noise is coming from is the only way to tell which one is bad or if one is bad at all.

[@michaelkienitz3979]

We fought England over a 3% Tea Tax!!!

[@NoName-cf7te]

👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾🙌🏾

[@bobbyfan418]

Next, they'll be making us water our gardens with Powerade.

[@nunzioification]

What do you use water? Like in the toilet? Stupid.

[@SensSword]

It's what plants crave

[@03WRXFORME]

Brawndo is the only way.

[@waitwhat69247]

Welcome to ford i love you Welcome to ford i love you Welcome to ford i love you

[@03WRXFORME]

😂 Thank you for choosing Chevrolet, fuck you. Thank you for choosing Chevrolet, fuck you. Thank you for choosing Chevrolet, fuck you.

[@CITIZENSDOGE]

They should put them on city vehicles and police cars first and see how that works out.

[@TimberTrainer]

Government vehicles are usually exempt. We the people are paying for the stupidity of others.

[@wootuser]

That's actually where they belong. But, somehow we think Gov is more powerful than the people.

[@drewt9829]

This isn’t about controlling drunk drivers, it’s about controlling you.

[@rockstar77750]

Lobbying should be illegal! Its not how it was supposed to work

[@poolhalljunkie9]

Fr. It's literally legalized bribery.

[@daveassanowicz186]

The US Auto Manufacturers have had lobbyists for almost 100 years. We bulldozed all our cities to accommodate cars. Do some research!!

[@shawnclawson890]

It was until lyndon b Johnson

[@ChickenMcThiccken]

who lobbied for this shit?

[@CooperBogetti]

Madd did, lobbying isn't the issue. The issue is it works because they (legislators) have too much power

[@610610billy610610]

I live in a rural area. At night when the back roads are empty, I drive near the center line to give myself more reaction time for deer. My car constantly gives me lane departure warnings when I get too close. So basically, it sounds like I would be flagged for drunk driving, even though I've only drank alcohol about 5 times in my life.

[@travisclarkin4277]

I do the same thing!

[@kicker6274]

Yep, we all have to drive all over the road to avoid the giant pot holes.

[@Thegunumstyle]

Was just thinking the same thing.

[@chucknorris277]

​@@kicker6274city roads are worse than the rural ones

[@kicker6274]

@@chucknorris277 Could be, depending on where you live. I live on a dirt road up in the mountains. I have to drive on the left and right sides of the road all the time.

[@Thabosshoss]

This needs to be stopped now. This is BAD on many, many levels. 4th and 5th Amended violations, taking your property and using it against you. This is not the way.

[@ErnieDriedger]

THIS is what we need to be protesting about

[@pslgreg]

Well, this and the fact that they have been doing everything they can to start a nuclear world war 3.

[@Jewish.Hotdog]

Shhh they don't want u to realize that. They rather u protest shit that doesn't effect u directly since they can actually ignore u

[@jer1776]

Nah, what bathroom trans people use is more important.

[@phuul98l]

That's why it's buried in the large document, remember they all said they don't need to read it to vote on it.

[@jaredmertens577]

Talk about a tyrannical government.

[@racerex340]

Well then get mad at MADD, they were behind it... No one wants to be the career politician voting against MADD's lobbying, even though they are completely fine with punishing every single law abiding citizen every time they go to drive their car because they don't have a shot at getting alcohol prohibition brought back and their entire mission is "stop drunk driving" at any costs.

[@Chris-zo5ze]

Are seat belts and air bags tyrannical too? HOW DARE THEY MAKE US LESS LIKELY TO DIE IN A CAR!!!???

[@fauxque5057]

​@@racerex340Well hopefully madd gets mad about the cost and inconvenience that they also have to deal with. And with luck the public will rise up against madd and tar and feather them.

[@racerex340]

@@fauxque5057 dude, MADD has absolutely zero f#cks to give about inconveniencing anyone or everyone, their mission has one primary goal, and their charter says that any amount of cost, time, inconvenience, pain or suffering by themselves or every other human being alive is a price worth paying if it means preventing the death of one child caused by drunk driving, even if it meant completely alcohol prohibition or banning the driving of automobiles entirely. Nothing else matters and they'll gladly take the tar and feathering if it means they get what they want.

[@Bazookify]

@@racerex340 nah we should actually just be mad a the 19th amendment we wouldn't have these problems without.

[@basspig]

My engineering background says this is just another point of failure adding this level of complexity to a vehicle. It's like those locks that read your fingerprint half the time they don't even work.

[@traviscrow8290]

Best part is that majority of drunk drivers cant afford the new cars

[@Ebacherville]

and cant afford insurance either..

[@tgrzadziel1975]

Are your serious.. PELOSI 😮

[@stlchucko]

You can delete “of drunk” from that statement and it’d be true. The average age of cars on the road is over 12 years old.

[@Blubb3rbub]

Some time in the future the cars won't be new anymore, though. A lot of people drive used cars. But all used cars were new at some point. And you can only really apply regulation to the new cars, so you start there, even though only a fraction of the cars are new.

[@TheOmw2000]

@@Blubb3rbubwith all the trinkets, tech, emissions, and other bull shit they’re putting in new cars they won’t last long enough to be used cars.

[@foxxygearreviews7754]

I’ll tell you one major issue - there’s a bumpy road where I live. Every time I drive on it, my F150 thinks I’m falling asleep at the wheel and comes up with a prompt to pull over and rest. If the same technology is deciding I’m drunk, I’ll never get home.

[@TheJomoe1]

sounds like you need to not have electrical twist connectors making all the connections on your vehicle. try a soldered connection next time. or maybe dont buy ford

[@fluffntough]

​@@TheJomoe1 doesn't sound like a connection issue and more like the truck thinks it's gone off the road

[@stayinganonymous.3172]

My ram promaster thinks I'm always driving tired for some reason. The awareness tech in cars is gimmicky at best, and we are all paying for it through higher insurance costs. What a big 'ol scam....

[@petroboomn7491]

Had a Hyundai rental car recently with this stupid "distracted driving feature." I was driving to a customer site in rural Iowa on dirt roads. This car made loud noises, vibrated my steering wheel, vibrated my seat, and flashed "PULL OVER AND REST" repeatedly across the dashboard every 5 mins on the dot. I was unable to turn this feature off in the options. Absolutely dangerous as these interruptions where far more distracting and went on for the duration 2 hour drive.

[@tomschrein417]

There is a distillery near I75 in Cincinnati. When the wind is right you can smell it for miles. What are they gonna do when everybody’s car shuts off? That’s one of the busiest roads in the country.

[@HavocSmasher]

As someone who works at a distillery, I go home smelling like 190 proof. So this would be a nightmare

[@isaaclarson]

This has to be unconstitutional, and someone is going to have to take it to the Supreme Court.

[@toddjones5186]

freedom of movement

[@amelliamendel2227]

Perhaps you're not keeping up with scotus but...

[@did_I_hurt_your_fee_fees]

I'm going to look for the mechanics who can go in and just remove all that stupid shit and turn it back into a normal car

[@amelliamendel2227]

Genuinely curious, which provision in the Constitution does it violate? There's background checks for guns that violates the fourth and Fifth amendment easily and that doesn't matter, so I'm not understanding what right specifically is being violated here and how that would be more egregious than background checks to exercise the second amendment right, please elaborate

[@illegalopinions4082]

​@@amelliamendel2227Those, as you said, are unconstitutional. Just because they're permitted doesn't make them OK. You are innocent until proven guilty. To continually have to prove your innocence via tests is a violation of the 4th and 5th

[@rallixlewis]

Sounds like the Patriot Act but for cars.

[@Ads-o7x]

Imagine you're driving on ice, and you get your car shut off 😂

[@iconiccreations2492]

or you swerve to avoid hitting something in the road and the SOB shuts down, calls the police and the next thing you know they have you face down with your hands behind your back.

[@oceanbytez847]

or the lane assist gets confused on a interstate that used to be 2 lane but was expanded to 3 and still has the old lines. The lane assist will fight you hard and attempt to drive you into the wall. I've personally experienced this fight with a rental in little rock, AR. Now imagine the car thinks you're drunk and cuts out because it tried to kill you and you narrowly avoided it.

[@MrPAULONEAL]

@@oceanbytez847 Like in I, Robot...

[@oueb]

Highway pile ups begin.

[@djmartin4776]

You sneeze 3 times in a row and now your late to work

[@4BillC]

I don't understand how we let bills like this happen. It's not OK to mix and match! A bill about spending has nothing to do with cars! Our government is absolute BS!

[@CooperBogetti]

If they don't have time to vote on things individually, they are voting on far too many things.

[@metrickarma]

Because voting isn't real, it's just an illusion.

[@wesw9586]

Well our political don't represent us. They get sold to the highest bidder or whoever threatens them the most. And our government doesn't conteol ITSELF. The men behind the curtain are going to imprison and kill us all eventually if people don't wake up and take the power back.

[@Natefirethemagnets]

Easy, morons keep voting in the party that cheerfully takes away their freedoms.

[@James-vn8zb]

That's how they've been passing bills that the public could possibly question or be against. It's how they've given themselves raises. They attach it to a bill that they know will pass. It should be unlawful to have multiple bills that have nothing to do with each other put together, but it's the legislators who want the ability to do it.

[@keeganwilliamson8123]

Drunk driving bad, everyone can agree. But total control over every car on the road is insanity. Not to even argue 10k lives /year as sad as it is, compared to high cholesterol / high blood pressure related deaths due to the food (poison) they are feeding Americans is very small….

[@ashleym2878]

Not to mention the stress the government is putting everyone under

[@TRUMPeterswan1624]

FACTS!

[@surlyogre1476]

How about breath-a-lyzer tests for our legislators before they cast votes.

[@gofast339]

Once government gets into your car the next step is inside your home.

[@Ebacherville]

they are already in your pocket.. patriot act , spy on anyone with out a warrant. Snowden revealed it all.

[@youdosuck]

They have always been in your car.FFS

[@SvendleBerries]

They already do that pretty much, what with phones and other tech being able to record us at any time, and then the tech companies sharing it with the government.

[@timothypeterson1903]

They already are in newer cars and in your home.

[@bradyb2233]

Yea the abuse prevention camera lol

[@CountryCarReviews]

2027: KZbin videos of how to repair “remove” breathalyser on cars.

[@Petra999]

Yupppp 😂

[@chrisknoblock]

I guarantee "tampering" with one of them will also be made a crime.

[@The-RoyalKnight]

They will integrate it into the wiring harness and you will not be able to remove it without causing damage to the rest of the car

[@Error2username]

​@@The-RoyalKnightlol, 4l = 1gallon with compressed air, heated to 37°c.

[@kellyalger2394]

Hey guys! Chrisfix here... lol

[@KocheR800r]

The world is becoming like the Watchdogs video game. If they put kill switches in soon enough hackers and crooks would just be able to kill someone’s car and come steal it.

[@Floridaslocalwhiteguy]

And when the generations now playing these type games are older and things are similar to those games it’ll feel normal to them almost acceptable

[@eln0n01]

300 million ppl and we gotta inconvenience ourselves cause 10,000 wanna be reckless

[@Rilmaist]

You're missing a zero on that. It's around 10,000 deaths annually and about 100,000 DUI arrests annually. There are many beers spilled along the bumpy road of our democracy.

[@4mulaBaby]

And most of those reckless folks aren't going to be driving 2026 or newer vehicles for a long time lol

[@user-zu5do6ri6r]

We don't "have to". Yet we are going to.

[@bradyb2233]

Not only inconvenience, but literally pay more money too for a car lmfao

[@freewillchoice8052]

Not at all, that’s just what we are being told which is bullocks; and if you can’t see that by now, there is no helping you…

[@andrewreed4538]

All the telematics going directly to the insurance companies😂

[@392nightrunner]

They do, even though they deny it

[@kicker6274]

Just wait, those telematics will be required by the insurance companies soon and you will be forced to give them up to drive. Of course, they will also be sold and you will be spied on by our "wonderful" government.

[@blingbling574]

Those devices are unreliable and not enforceable in Canada anyway. Just represented a gentleman in his first and second hearing today. He got off with a warning. I did my homework.

[@Shade_Tree_Mechanic]

Your cell phone and infotainment system (if equipped) already do this. They also have access to ALL of your text messages, which includes pictures and phone usage data, if you agree while pairing a phone to your car. Lexis Nexus is the analytics company that reports this info to insurance companies. If you go on their site they're legally required to show you what they've collected.

[@kicker6274]

@@Shade_Tree_Mechanic Thats why I dont use it.

[@realmongolianhours6502]

Take example from us gun guys car guys. They don’t care about your rights. There are 15 year old future doctors in Chicago popping “percs”, stealing cars with full auto Glock switches but the ATF will go after the law abiding citizen with a pistol brace.

[@WilliamSmith-lq3pb]

They just want total control

[@kidwave1]

Someone gets it!

[@_JamesBrown]

No one is stopping you from buying a used vehicle

[@Chris-zo5ze]

@@_JamesBrown But he wants a NEW one he can drive drunk in!!! MUH FREEDUMS!!!

[@saveusall6915]

@@_JamesBrownthe right to repair law they’re trying to pass says otherwise. Also tell that to the tire and parts production companies that are phasing out availability for used vehicles because “they don’t sell as much” yet used cars have had available parts since their creation…

[@fauxque5057]

​@@_JamesBrownOnly a matter of time before the government says no more used cars. The goal is all EVs. They can exploit this new law to remove all non compliant vehicles. It's getting to the point where it might be time to immigrate the flock out of here and go somewhere more friendly. People say I can't afford that. Lol. I have probably $50,000. in credit card limits. Burn down every line of credit, sell my house and everything I can, and skip out of the Country. If I'm not in America they can't sue me and my credit rating doesn't matter anymore.

[@peterkeller7357]

Id like to see a list of who gains financially from this and see if or which congressman has a stake in the company making the sensors

[@wesw9586]

Not even about the money anymore. THEY are trying to get rid of US.

[@TRUMPeterswan1624]

the parasites- ("elites") -win... if u wonder

[@mrrandominternetdude]

Notice how they try to pass a law for shutting off your car rather then having manufacturers implement the capability of self driving.

[@stannelson2582]

Hand sanitizer leaves all medical professionals standed at work lol.

[@johnhall5150]

😅

[@scottsmith1525]

Good one!

[@ktowntj]

All of our 2025 and older vehicles will be worth gold if this actually doesn’t get shut down.

[@Chris-zo5ze]

That's like saying all cars pre air bag will be more valuable... Pull your head out, man.

[@ktowntj]

@@Chris-zo5ze that’s not even close to comparing apples to oranges. Now shove it.

[@Chris-zo5ze]

@@ktowntj How so? You do realize that people were in an uproar about seatbelts... In an uproar about airbags... Now apparently we're in an uproar about tech to keep drunks from driving... Shove it, but no discussion? lol Found the Trumper. Also, you were TRYING to say, that's like comparing apples and oranges....

[@Triple88a]

I thought about that but knowing the government they will make you add a breathalyzer device to your pre2025 or you wont be able to pass emissions/registration.

[@coliimusic]

​@Chris-zo5ze The IR sensor could also ding you for eating wrong, being the wrong blood type, putting the wrong lotion on, being the person the government doesn't like that day. I see it more as a "We own all Americans in the transport system by monitoring them anatomically." Also the ECU detection has ruled out every venture to a track or twisty road you will ever plan, no more fun in cars, at all, EV or ICE, it'll be fully illegal, even a harsh acceleration to the speed limit.

[@frippyfroo6064]

They word it very specifically to make us think they care, "drunk driving kills *this many people," "drunk driving costed us $44bn," "we can "save" *this many* people" That last part, in another way of saying, "we can save this much money"

[@ManBoo55]

Driving through highly populated cities (Atlanta for instance) is already a completely impossible task. Can you imagine if cars were just turning off in the middle of the interstate? Complete chaos would happen.

[@QUINTIX256]

MARTA exists. More people should use it. Less traffic. Less drunk driving. Less incidents bringing people who absolutely need to drive because there is no other option to a standstill.

[@did_I_hurt_your_fee_fees]

That couldn't be. There's no way our government would want chaos

[@edcapp7654]

Window cleaner is alcohol(methanol) can it tell if I drank (ethanol)or just washed the bugs off the window.

[@opossumlvr1023]

The reason for the kill switch is because the Federal Government found out during COVID that local sheriffs and police can't be counted upon to enforce lock down orders. Have an old carbureted engine vehicle on stand by and running condition as they are safe from EMP's and can't be shut down remotely.

[@Steven-rn1oo]

Lmao imagine still being mad about covid 2024. I'm so glad I'm not mentally ill.

[@markschrist]

​@@Steven-rn1ooyou are mentally ill if you took the vaccine and thought COVID was a threat that warranted what the govt did. You shouldn't be able to vote

[@thymekiller]

@@Steven-rn1oo You should be mad about your government lying to you forever. They do it all the time. They are still doing it.

[@EndorsedAura]

@@Steven-rn1oo The point of his comment went way over your head dude

[@DarthVader-1701]

The EMP resistance cars are usually the 1960s pony and muscle cars, before they had computer stuff in them.

[@robbybiddle9236]

This is an invasion of privacy. It’s a slow build up of the Pre-Crime like in the Minority Report.

[@yodawg3469]

Not really,as soon as the wheels of your vehicle touch the roadway you're at the mercy of the state.It's just be government overreach and punish the good for the actions of the bad.

[@ImperiumLibertas]

@yodawg3469 that is entirely untrue. If you are not breaking a law then the government has no right to harass you. The Fourth Amendment restricts the government from being deprived of their "privileges" without due process. "No person shall ... be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process of the law." This on its face removes our liberty to travel by vehicle without due process. Additionally, we don't have "privileges," we have liberties which cannot be deprived without due process. Just because something isn't explicitly a right doesn't mean the government can all of a sudden have full dominion over the activity. The nineteenth amendment states "The enumeration in the Constitution ... shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people." We have rights that must be acknowledged even if they are not listed explicitly in the constitution, one of which is the fundamental right of movement which driving certain facilitates and therefore cannot be infringed upon without due process.

[@DanielJohnson-ps4xv]

If I knew computers better I’d start a business developing a delete kit for this.

[@johnjohnii5849]

We have forklifts at work that have an inertia switch in them to shut off and lock up the truck in the event of an accident. This is to make sure property damage is reported. But what really happens is at least once a shift, somebody hits a pothole or the truck finds a dead spot in the wifi and shuts down until somebody comes to unlock it. Or we're wrestling a 5 ton buck into the packing station and it shuts down. So far it's cost the company over $300k in lost production this year. Can't imagine my truck trying to tell if I'm drunk.

[@steelrye]

Yeah one I don't think anyone else in here has pointed out that there are paved roads that have potholes so big you could hide bodies in all across the states, meanwhile my taxes if the new spending bill passes for the next fiscal year Will be upwards of 53% and that's just income tax oh I'm sorry Do you own property? property tax, You bought something? sales tax, You saved money? inflation tax, oh you invested it? We got a tax for that too called capital gains tax, Oh you want to start a business? We call it a license tho In reality it's just a bribe the only multi-million dollar companies can afford, give it away? There's a gift tax, you die There's an inherent tax. All of that money collected and yet public infrastructure is dilapidated and falling apart and potholes big enough to disable vehicles are a regular occurrence So while I'm swerving to avoid the holes that will destroy my vehicle, it's going to shut down because the computer thinks I'm drunk and that's all before the mess of power abuse that this can be open to. And that's not even touching the anti-right to repair BS and attempts to ban older vehicles. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jGPUqmeHqLJ4oZosi=4S2l1CuwX--4e0I1

[@joef.2908]

This will bury the auto makers. I'll keep fixing and driving the cars I have and never buy new again.

[@TRUMPeterswan1624]

they dont want u to helloooooooooo never vote blue again!

[@MrTheHillfolk]

Heh,I really don't want a new car, but I better 💩 or get off the pot and decide before 2026.

[@Flyguy6025]

This is like when you have one bad person in the classroom that does something bad, and the whole classroom gets the punishment too due to one person.

[@phatpelkey]

can u imagine driving ur car in a windstorm and they kill ur car thinking ur drunk

[@fauxque5057]

Imagine swerving to avoid a kid chasing a ball into the street and your car shuts off. Hopefully you avoided the kid before the car shut off. Deer crossing the road? Idiots trying to beat the train? Man rushing pregnant woman to the hospital? Woman rushing heart attack victim to the hospital? Parent rushing choking child? Hit a few potholes and swerve to miss a few more and then you block traffic until your car decides to start again. So many legit reasons to be swerving. Oh I forgot the trying to avoid the speeding drunk running a red light and your car stalls in his path.

[@reidmackay9703]

In Canada some roads are ass so I swerve big pot holes, some roads are like a minefield just dodging them left and right

[@MVSTNGGT]

@@reidmackay9703Driving lowered cars in Canada = Pain. Roads are Garbo in every province

[@TRUMPeterswan1624]

​@@reidmackay9703 are u sure ure not in michigan?😂

[@Person.555]

Sucks growing up in this time. So much technology and engineering for incredible cars, but now everything fun about cars and travel is being ripped from us.

[@SilverAura]

Fun? Drinking and driving? You worded that very poorly. Nobody here actually endorses drinking and driving. They simply don't want their cars monitoring them with automatic kill-switches under any circumstances.

[@lukefranky]

No, he didn't. You just chose to look at it through that lens.

[@Person.555]

@@SilverAura what the hell are you referring to? Lol

[@Thegunumstyle]

​@@SilverAurapft, you never met me then. I endorse it, what can you legitimately do to stop people from drunk driving without violating our rights? Checkpoints are unconstitutional, this is unconstitutional, what can you do? I don't endorse it because I think it's good I endorse it because there's legitimately bigger fucking problems to worry about than this retarded shit. What about all the food related deaths every year? What about all the kids that go missing? What about all the women who go missing? What about the drugs the government allows into the country? And we are gunna sit here and bicker about drunk driving? Holy shit. No wonder this society has fallen apart.

[@GlitchSystem-xf7jb]

All this is is a way to monitor people. This has really nothing to do with alcohol. Not enough people are signing up for insurance companies to monitor them so insurance companies can charge more because the way people drive. Why aren't the car companies fighting this?

[@ga6257]

Truck slips on black ice and goes over yellow line once and shuts down mid blizzard cause it claims I'm impaired. Greattt

[@t.dig.2040]

I live rural, I try to ride that yellow line, so the next guy has a better chance of finding it in my track

[@ZBerd_leNZ]

Dude idk how this thing is gonna accurately monitor my driving in winter. Incliment weather makes these systems tweek

[@m.d.rofarm1665]

What happens if it shuts your car down while you are doing an evasive maneuver to avoid an accident? Will you go over a cliff?

[@RYTHMICRIOT]

When you're a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

[@ghostboy929]

But will insurance rates go down?! They'll either stay the same or go up because they'll argue that the cost of vehicles have increased negating the reduction of risk increase.

[@1_lowlimited]

So I swerve to miss a racoon or some shit and now my car shuts off cause it thinks I'm drunk..government needs a major, major downsizing

[@Akestler]

This is insane. God forbid they make harsher penalties for drunk driving.

[@jwallace2913]

Has nothing to do with DUIs

[@SvendleBerries]

Yeah, but that doesnt give them an in on everybody else. Its the same with how they treat guns.

[@QUINTIX256]

Harsher penalties are not the solution either. Having a viable, non-commercial “third place” nearby to gather, fully funded mental health services, and abundant public transportation is. Fewer people will get drunk with ready access to a private vehicle, and those who do will either have a sober buddy or a bus or tram they can bumble onto, and get a sober driver either way. See also: Innuendo Studio’s video “everybody hates Mondays.” We shouldn’t simply accept drunk driving fatalities as a “Mondays always happen” fact of life. They can be drastically reduced without imposing on our freedom or expanding our already excess prison population.

[@Captainkirk88410]

The penalties are already very high at this point! Especially here in Texas!

[@jakobgrey804]

I work as a automotive locksmith and I find this interesting because the DOT has made it illegal for antitheft systems and automobiles to shut off a vehicle EVEN IF THEFT IS DETECTED FOR THE SIMPLE FACT OF IT MIGHT CAUSE A WRECK. so I’m interested to see how this plays out if it does because I think this will be thrown out first.

[@turbo3sgte770]

So what about all the politicians that drink and drive and get caught driving home from bars drunk and stuff like that they're not going to want to have this system implemented on a car

[@builtbyme]

And they won't. Same as the military doesn't have emissions. They'll find a way to drive government vehicles that don't have any of this stuff. Just more of the do as I say and not as I do type shit.

[@jessicawillis4689]

There fancy suvs are government provided of course they will be exempt from the regulation

[@conradwoodiwiss7936]

They'll be exempt from this, you know the thing rules for thee not for me

[@TRUMPeterswan1624]

theyll get drivers

[@miker.1804]

Like Nancy Polocie husband..

[@mattcassel6031]

Need to stop all this govt over reach

[@iwikeu]

Its not a government over reach. Government is why you have workplace safety standards , seat belts , safety glass , airbags , environmental safety standards and so on.

[@mattcassel6031]

Sorry I have my opinion. All that stuff added makes little sense. Just more cost. People need to make better choices

[@iwikeu]

@@mattcassel6031 the fact remains that people don't make better choices and innocent people pay for those people who make poor choices. By your logic there is no need for military or police. No need for them people and nations should make better choices.

[@Roadhouse1997]

​@@iwikeu.00003 percent of deaths in the US are drunk driving and that only accounts for .7 percent of ALL traffic accidents and only about 25 percent of ALL fatal traffic accidents. This isn't for the well-being of the nation otherwise the government would be going for heart disease or cancer. A better alternative that doesn't add cost to cars that the majority can't afford already would be to patrol the bars more frequently not to add devices one of which can be defeated by determined drunks like they do when they have court mandated devices installed in regular cars. This if for control of movement not healt. Otherwise just launch prohibition 2.

[@calebsiemens5067]

Huge problem with the auto market us that there aren't all that many "affordable" new vehicles. Seems like most people just want something affordable and reliable. Fewer new vehicles, especially cheaper new vehicles, in the market will shrink supply... driving up prices. Probably not good for the average america

[@single_cam9199]

OH WOW MSRP ON EVERY VEHICLE JUST WENT UP 50K

[@Chris-zo5ze]

50k for a breathalizer that can be bought for less than 100 bucks... Riiiiight.

[@single_cam9199]

So you mean to tell me every 60 to 100,000 dollar vehicle is all going to have the same retro ratty style looking breathalyzer in a car you pay how much taxes on already

[@N.Cognito]

Did you see the inserted video? That's not a blow n go, that's a huge integrated piece of tech. Affordable cars will be a thing of the past. ​@@Chris-zo5ze

[@fauxque5057]

​@@Chris-zo5zeWhy is it liberals can't spell, or make rational comments?

[@the-real-big-vic7359]

​@single_cam9199 you don't pay for people's breathalyzer in there cars, they do

[@Dapperrh]

even if this doesnt get overturned, what are car companies gonna do when no one buys their cars? mass layoffs and going out of business. i sure as hell wont be buying a car with these devices.

[@mustv8]

Of course they will be bailed out by the government!

[@xDoss]

Were going through a Drug epidemic and this is what they are focused on..

[@ZBerd_leNZ]

So real. Drug overdoses in 2023 caused 107,543 deaths. Between 2013 and 2022 drunk driving causes 11k a year. Almost 10 times as many and we are worried about drunk drivers??? Wow

[@hankf616]

So I guess we're just going to pretend like Due Process isn't a thing anymore.

[@shawnclawson890]

The trump trial was the test

[@did_I_hurt_your_fee_fees]

Have you watched the Trump trial? Are justice system is dead

[@STARSHIPTROOP]

Ever see the "kill" switch in the movie Surrogates? Just like that, but cars. What is not said is there will be onboard cameras & audio in the cockpit that they can access at any time.

[@gregsumerix6347]

As we make the world "safer" for all, we whittle away at our freedoms. When it comes down to it, the freedom to choose means some folks choose poorly. So we try to legislate away the choice.

[@jamesrobertgrimes]

Making those old trucks look better every day

[@TRUMPeterswan1624]

the only thing worse than a female driver is a male in a truck🙄😂

[@napoleano2748]

Imagine driving down the highway and the ICU suddenly decides your drunk and shuts off lol

[@MrOiram46]

Or when you’re about to make a turn on a cliff-side road but your car shuts off in the middle of turning

[@speedycpu]

While it is 110F outside. Cops will be there in 3 hours after you died of heat stroke because of all the other false alerts. Yay. Or if it is -40C, too much snow and they can't even get to you.

[@whickervision742]

On a bad air day from forest fires, the sensor gets tricked and no new car starts. The few "unlucky" ones can't start their car to escape the flames. Their sacrifice in the name of safety will be remembered. For about 3 minutes.

[@Prestiged_peck]

ANY modern network connected vehicle can already be disabled remotely. If your radio has internet connection and your ecu and radio have canbus communication (like any car made pretty much since the early 2010's), then it can be remotely shut off in some way or another. Some would require you to force a hard system failure while newer ones can simply be shut off temporarily

[@seananon4893]

F J B... End the FED, the entire thing. We do not need them.

[@Chris-zo5ze]

Libertarianism as a political ideology is most closely similar to a barn full of feral cats. The cats didn't build the barn and they don't trust each other, but they hate being outside in the rain, cold and hungry, even more. They depend on the farmer, but God do they hate him.

[@eriklarson9137]

Duh.

[@eriklarson9137]

@@Chris-zo5ze This guy is why the Fed exists.

[@Chris-zo5ze]

@@eriklarson9137 People forget that before government regulation, businesses had kids working grueling manual labor jobs and paid them with tokens to be spent at the general store that the employer owned... If we didn't have unions and government regulation, the rich would enslave us all. But yeah, let's get riled up about a completely passive system in your car that can keep it from being operated by an impaired driver. (slaps forehead) Let's take brakes, airbags, crumple zones, seatbelts, DOT approved tires, windshield wipers, etc. etc. etc. out of cars so we can get the cheapest car possible and let the companies make more profit. It is the companies profits we're worried about, after all... (slaps forehead again)

[@SpoofWorldGo]

@@Chris-zo5ze sounds like you described communists to a tee bud..

[@mchenryjeremy]

As a victim of drunk driving, I'm 100% against this. Hit head on in 2008 by a drunk driver going over 75 mph. Lost my left eye but I'm still here!

[@Nick210]

You must be rich! Sorry you had to go through that bud.

[@mchenryjeremy]

@@Nick210 it doesn't work like that.

[@mchenryjeremy]

@Nick210 I got some money, but I wouldn't call myself rich. Losing an eye is not worth any amount of money.

[@Lugnut-uv7ff]

As a first responder I get it. It’s horrible to see people killed in DUIs but you can’t always bubble rap everything and everyone. It’s impossible cuz roads are unpredictable also road robbery’s/ road rage.

[@laserflexr6321]

K and how much will it cost to have your car towed to a dealership to replace that module when it fails and bricks your car?

[@j.b.216]

Just another reason there won’t be any new vehicles in my driveway. Pretty bad here when Russia starts looking like a good idea.

[@thebigpicture2032]

Russia is a bad idea. They’ll take your money out of your bank account. Country of thieves.

[@No1FanoftheU]

Absolutely unconditional.

[@Bierowski]

Kind of hard to take your new vehicle off roading or perhaps driving in snow or ice. Get caught in heavy rain or high winds to push your car and shut off. These are the laws that should not be forced upon us when the government doesn’t use laws on the books to protect us as a nation. So many other things that need to addressed by the government. Keep up the inspiring work.

[@mnypit]

This is going to be fixed with ropes not votes

[@wesw9586]

Amen, brother! 🇺🇲

[@HarryTwatter]

lol go ahead and start it badass

[@paulchilders9969]

@@HarryTwatter We already had one civil war, don't think it can't happen. I mean, it won't because people are too pu**y, but the potential remains.

[@fromthegroundup841]

@@HarryTwatter He means in general. That it will likely take a war or for the people en mass to finally stand up and replace this government - not the form of government, but the corrupt people that have usurped it. If the communists steal the next election, it will likely come to that. Problem is most conservatives have drunk their own Christianity koolaid on turning the other cheek or are just cowards. God said nothing about being passive when it comes to evil...

[@Laugh1ngboy]

Or we can get rid of using a novel to explain that it is "illegal to do this. "

[@harumaru4205]

I hope we can find out how to remove those devices from the cars.

[@predatorsolutionsofmichigan]

Glad to see you bringing this to the public’s attention.

[@kevinmeyers3337]

This is ridiculous I don’t drink at all but this is completely out of control !

[@paule4696]

These BAC ignition locks have been available, and court ordered for DUI offenders for decades. I actually did some work for one of the companies that supplies them and asked what it would cost to have one installed in my car if I just wanted it voluntarily. It was approximately $280.00 installed. That seems pretty cheap to me. The reason I inquired if I'm being honest is that at .08-.12 I feel fine. I wonder how many of us have come off the golf course or the lake or from a business meeting, maybe even a dinner out with the wife with a bottle of wine and were over the limit without knowing it. This simple device is far less expensive than a DUI. Remember, you may feel fine and someone can crash into you while you're stopped and if a cop detects alcohol on your breath they can test you and you're in big trouble. Even if you weren't at fault you will be treated as if you were. If there is an injury the penalties are worse. I've often thought that the only reason they aren't mandated already is because of the massive amount of money the states and lawyers make on DUI cases. Now instead of a well-intended person getting behind the wheel and driving they may have to go back in and get a cup of coffee and wait an hour before going home. It may also prevent someone from drinking that second glass of wine knowing that they won't be able to start the car. I could see the kill switch thing being abused so I hope it will require some special authorization for high-speed fleeing suspects and/or stolen vehicles. Insurance rates and injury during high-speed pursuits should decrease. The driving monitors already exist. My Ford will tell me to pay attention if I keep getting too close to the lines. These are both, common sense use of technology to me.

[@jamesplotkin4674]

Sarcasm warning... Why not legislate directly to the source? Shut down liquor stores, mini-marts, bars and dining establishments that sell alcohol. I'd suggest the greater number of impaired drivers are not drinking at home, then decide to go for a drive.

[@CooperBogetti]

We could call it prohibition or something also. I like it

[@wiscopyro]

Then aunti Nancy wouldn't be very happy then, would she?!

[@ComputerGeeks-R-Us]

@@CooperBogetti Yeah, think of all the organized crime that won't take advantage of that. Politically connected families would never use gains from such illegal trafficking to gain political power and influence. I think we're onto something here.

[@Roadhouse1997]

​@@ComputerGeeks-R-Usmaybe we will get a cool race series from the runners wanting to see who has the faster car.

[@commonsenseisdeadin2024]

Because there's too many municipal liquor stores

[@chieftron]

This is insane. Not that I'm interested in ANY new vehicles, but this is just absolutely ridiculous.

[@CarStory]

And your car is one over the air update away from not starting when the government deems it unsafe to leave your home.

[@OG-ls2un]

Half of the people driving on the road today do not have control of their cars as it is...WTF!

[@TheTyisawesome]

As soon as I heard vehicle immobilization I was like that's a red flag... And it got worse 😭

[@1Thatstrangeguy]

Sad part is people wont fight back by refusing to buy cars with this installed. They will just go along with it.

[@izzyplusplusplus1004]

Well now we know how the auto industry died.

[@reavis1474]

1984

[@ch3no2killz]

Keep tell peeps since I read the book (1966)! The only thing they missed is the Date!

[@reavis1474]

@@ch3no2killz it’s following almost word for word. Even deleting words from out language

[@ch3no2killz]

@@reavis1474 Trumps daddy was a big fan of Adolf, also, that would follow, you can pick pieces of his rants that he didn't think up, to bad he doesn't get the crowds. 1984 will be at the top of the burn list. Ole Guy

[@noneyabiz8225]

Seems to me that there would be a market for people who can disable or remove computer uplinks and such on cars. Hell, I do not even want a back up camera, tire pressure monitering systems, or touch screen crap in my car. Just an engine, 5 speed manual and hand roll up windows for me.

[@R.T.Schaefer]

Great! More future fail points to add to the already unbelievably complicated automotive list of technologies that can and do fail regularly in cars. Also, you're correct; this is EXACTLY what you said-an insane invasion of privacy. Especially as for me, and a lot of others out there that don't drink at all. I've had exactly one beer and two shots (all from paid dares during celebrations with family) across the entirety of my 43 years alive, and I have to deal with this stupidity, too? This makes absolutely ZERO sense!

[@whickervision742]

Oh no. You used hand sanitizer. At over 70 times the legal limit, a care team has been dispatched to your location to help.

[@ritchiemurach1558]

imagine on a 2 lane bridge and you change lanes and you're car shuts off. by the time you fix the problem the road is backed up for several miles

[@ebels3]

What about a DD? This just doesn't seem practical...

[@jacobpowell9146]

We do this but texting while driving… no biggie

[@ni_wink84]

Very happy I have several classic cars, until they come to take them like every other freedom we have