GPUs Are Going EXTINCT!

[@stipedundic4622]

No GPU... Now Nvidia can do what it wants, and increase prices as there are not any competition from AMD side...

[@Ultrajamz]

Yep. I blame AMD for laying down.

[@TheAimadman]

Just don't buy lol

[@Felale]

Realistically AMD hasn’t been competing on the gpu front for a while. Nvidia GPUs just offer much more than raw performance and have resale value.

[@stipedundic4622]

@@TheAimadman I have to buy something. I am on Strix 3080Ti now. I need upgrade 🤷‍♂️

[@J-MAN999]

I'm so freaking pissed AMD didn't talk about their 9000 series GPUs totally screwed us all as investors.

[@Turbomantom2]

No GPU at CES should be criminal

[@arch1107]

they announced one via a pdf under embargo, rx 9070, but no idea about price, performance, power consumption, nothing amd is indeed aiming at apus hard

[@MrHav1k]

Seeing what Nvidia announced for the 5000 series pricing wise... I can see why they didn't announce it lol. Nvidia got wayy more aggressive than I thought they'd be.

[@roki977]

It would spoil everything. They did great with new CPUs and Ryzen max will be game changer for many, they will steal gpu low end..

[@kermitthefragg]

There literally are GPU's at CES. What a dumb comment lmfao

[@Turbomantom2]

@@kermitthefragg please send me the time stamp where AMD announced their GPUs at CES. Context matters, what a dumb comment

[@lindsaybruce1396]

nVidia RTX 5000 Series, featuring WalletOpener(tm) and WattSucker(tm), and leveraging AI BS Marketing(tm) and StockBooster(tm) technology!

[@Jmvars]

Aren't Nvidia GPUs historically more efficient than the competition?

[@kayblis]

@@Jmvars Yes but if you're drawing 600W at the wall just for your GPU it'll still cost you. I guess you could save on heating.

[@chrisking6695]

@@kayblis They said the same thing about the 4090 and it ended up drawing 300-350w in most applications. I doubt that it will really use all 600 available watts for 4k gaming. But even if, I won't bother me. I got solar lol

[@Anonymous-i1b3b]

Golden comment

[@Jmvars]

@@chrisking6695 My 7900 XT draws ~330W with 30% less performance so you may be right.

[@thomas-cheng]

This makes sense as APU allows for extremely fast connection between the cpu and gpu on one die. In theory, this will eventually outpace the performance of high end gpus as much of the communication wait time will be extremely reduced in a smaller package and lower power draw. The future is bright.

[@vanniyo8988]

Yea too bad HBMs never became big we could have had APUs with HBM memory.

[@Tigerex966]

But the. MEmory is much slower than vram

[@ambocc]

@@Tigerex966 It doesn't need to be as fast since CPU and GPU has a direct link to each other. So you don't need as much preprocessed data on the GPU ram sitting idle and able to do more realtime data from system ram. The biggest problem between GPU and CPU has always been the wait time to transfer data back and forth.

[@Tigerex966]

@ambocc this is why camm2 is faster to make up for any loss from. Potentially losing that however newer motherboards can take away that bottle neck all together allowing full link speed access to the memory from the cpu gpu and npu. They dont have to be on the same due, just interconnected correctly. Like soldered ssds VS pcie ssds. Depending on implementation either can be faster and have lower latency although it should be easier with soldered close to the soc ssds.

[@ambocc]

@@Tigerex966 It won't be as good. The advantage of placing it on the die it also the close proximity to everything including the share cache. There's also much larger 3D v cache coming and it will speed things up exponentially. This is just the beginning and I think it will be the future path for AMD. It will also be cheaper to manufacture and allows for smaller powerhouse systems.

[@madfreq]

What is going on with naming stuff at AMD?

[@arch1107]

the ai part? investrs believe ai is the future money maker, so amd put ai everywhere

[@broose5240]

who cares

[@kazedcat]

The fact that naming is getting worse means it is deliberate. It's possible that confusing names results in higher sales. Just like supermarkets make their shelving organization confusing to encourage shoppers to buy more.

[@davefroman4700]

Just a hypothetical but... Can you imagine the beast they could create by turning these new APU's w/40 gcu's into X3D desktop variants? No need to throttle it on a desktop with good heat dissipation like they do in Laptops.

[@ivanvladimir0435]

I would buy that even if it meant finally moving on to AM5

[@arch1107]

those will come eventually, of course, amd is moving towards apus first, gpus later, or never amd on mobile will become a monster

[@BCterm]

also, I heard from someone that extra cache might help with soldered lpddr5x's performance diff versus upcoming gddr7 and current gddr6x along side increasing the bus.

[@mohdk2299]

I'm going to wait for a mini PC version

[@davefroman4700]

@@mohdk2299 I can see a lot of people taking that path.

[@Epic3032]

In the future my next graphics card will be an APU...I plan to downsize my PC setup....high performance APU in a MINI PC hoping one will come out that's on par with my current GPU the RX 6800.

[@Johndoe-176]

People complaining about amd not competing with nvidia are insane. They competed and gave 80% of the performance for half the price. BUT NO ONE BOUGHT THEM. No company is going to compete just for the sake of keeping another company in check. If you wanted amd to compete you should have bought them and gave them the r&d funds instead of nvidia. Now the plan is probably to let nvidia get gpus to the point that they are so expensive they are not rely purchasable by the masses. (ces just showed this in action). Once everyone is used to paying 3k for a gpu they will drop back in with a nice reasonable offering, with a humble attitude and say hey....we have 80% the performance for half the price, give us a try. Probably once they get that fancy new interconnect hammered out so they can put multiple chips on a single board.

[@sm0983]

So true I bought a 7900xtx which was cheaper than a 4080s but better pure performance

[@mwales2112]

Z2 Extreme in a mini PC would be sweet...

[@ambocc]

Imagine a dual APU configuration.

[@Sup_D]

Why the surprise at there being a "X3D" mobile variant? We already had "7945HX3D" before.

[@qwertyqwerty-zi6dr]

I guess not everyone knew about the 7945hx3d, it was anyway only on some Asus notebooks, probably it was just experimental

[@herobrinecyberdemon8104]

@@qwertyqwerty-zi6dr Intel still bribing their OEM partners. That's why.

[@kermitthefragg]

This guy doesn't appear to have any actual knowledge he just reads specs and says stupid shit like GPU's are going extinct.

[@FusionDeamon]

Meanwhile in the real world, People can't wait to spend $1999.99 on a 5090

[@Scherrah1010]

Add $1000 to the mentioned sum and you‘re right! Nvidia got extremely greedy… AGAIN!

[@FusionDeamon]

@@Scherrah1010 WTF are you even talking about, the price has already been given. And it's $1999.99 just as i posted.

[@Scherrah1010]

@@FusionDeamon @FusionDeamon - WTF have you slept the last years? Since when did NVIDIA or their board partners stick to suggested prices (MSRP)? We all know where the 4090 initially started although it was said to be 1799 USD. The reality were prices around 2700 USD as demand for the big baddies was tremendous! So before you try to make others look like a fool, try to think back and a bit outside your bubble!

[@FusionDeamon]

@@Scherrah1010 You are simply trying to blame Nvidea here for people scalping, Which is absurd. Facts are this, MSRP is $2k. If you have to pay more because you are in a rush.... that's on you.

[@CaFFeineSouLja]

Good luck getting one for that price lol

[@Rayu25Demon]

gamer meld: GPUs Are Going EXTINCT! unreal engine developers: sure.

[@selohcin]

You've got to be kidding me. We don't even get prices? And we don't even get release dates? What a joke.

[@herobrinecyberdemon8104]

AMD hasn't disclosed prices for their integrated solutions in years... if they ever did it.

[@Scherrah1010]

Release dates were given in the form of Q1 2025 / H1 2025… so this part of your complaint is wrong. As for prices, AMD always kept them a secret until a few days before release. But for what one can say, they really smoke Intel once more! But that‘s good as Intel now has to get up it‘s ass and find a way to compete with AMD again at reasonable prices. Intel had rested too long and got greedy. I hope, AMD will also get Nvidia back to the reality because their pricings have become too ridiculous!

[@Wolfstanus]

No they are not going extinct though. Click bait misleading title means im not watching anymore and going to hit the not recommended. Its no better than the AI generated videos

[@NameForgotten1]

AMD Ryzen AI Max+ 395 and the similar variants all look gangbusters! I would take a laptop with one of these over a discrete packaged laptop, any day of the week. My Intel 13900HX CPU can pull 190w alone. (4080m pulls 175w) So, swapping to one of these is likely in my future.

[@marshabrightly1307]

go get it girl....

[@pweddy1]

The Strix Halo 385 w/ 8 cores and 32 CUs sounds like it’s going to be the sweet spot for price to performance for gaming.

[@NameForgotten1]

This is the one that has me the most excited. It will be a well rounded, monster. It sucks that it wont have FSR4 though. I may hold off for the 2026 3nm variant for that reason alone.

[@kermitthefragg]

Based on what? You literally don't know price or performance.....

[@pweddy1]

@@kermitthefragg 8 cores is more than enough for gaming. And 32CUs even based on the desktop variants should be around a 7600, maybe a little weaker. But they tend to Jack the price way up on full pieces of Silicon. This is cut down to a normal gaming PC. And it still has enough CUs to be decent. Not top tier, but decent.

[@Eli9A]

Gpu's will never go extinct.

[@CO8848_2]

Finally, AMD released 120w mobile CPUs, I was wondering when they will enter the heater market.

[@pauljeron]

Am I triping people are saying it's clickbait but he shows that one cpu line is gunna have gpu cores that surpass a 7600xt meaning with time gpus may not be necessary

[@FARBerserker]

and they will not be sold as socketable for normal computers, only as pga packet for notebooks and other devices where you can not swap them out.

[@herobrinecyberdemon8104]

it has a 256 bit memory interface. AMD won't introduce a socket just for this APU for you to complain its not on AM5.

[@wenenwo5341]

I knew it, they are going to replace dedicated gpus with 1 giant cpu, this explains why nvidia r making cpus

[@roki977]

Ryzen Max could be huge is they dont overprice it.

[@Sheldyck]

waiting for the desktop cpu with 40+ TOPS

[@henson2k]

to do what exactly?

[@-in-the-meantime...]

wE gOt 40+ TOPS CpU's BeFoRe GtA 6 🤪

[@arch1107]

so microsoft can spy on you faster?

[@clarkisaac6372]

AMD RYZEN is the name of the termination to the whole of Intel.

[@SleepyRulu]

My third pc going be happy with that apu

[@n3o717]

NVIDIA left AMD speechless and stumbling to make corrections, that’s if they can - if 5070 is $549 as example, how cheap will the RX 9070 XT have to be for nVidia fanboys to switch teams and buy AMD - I mean the idea AMD has to buy or gain market share - flawed, at least now. And of course, AMD dropping the RX 9070 vs 4070 comparison, a past gen card, team red either has problems or surprises to come.

[@Overloaded45]

overdone trebble EQ. sounds terrible on good cans.

[@Neonyx11-vz3fd]

AMD Ryzen AI MAX? Why dont they call this AMD Ryzen MAX AI?

[@benjamindepaz8429]

7:25 Convenient that they’re comparing it to the M4 Pro and not the M4 Max which is the chip that is heavily focused on GPU throughput.

[@herobrinecyberdemon8104]

as a matter of fact we should wait and see what price range these systems will be at first

[@l.i.archer5379]

Ohhhh...I'm gonna have to build me an SFF with the X3D chip and just cool it with the Thermalright AXP120-X67 Black Low Profile CPU Air Cooler, replacing the ARGB fan with a high pressure fan.

[@blueforce9269]

6:19 “7060 XT” 💀

[@FionatheFiend]

All filler material until the 5090 gets announced. Can't wait!

[@jeffjameson5082]

Shaboingboing

[@ilbro7874]

5090 would have me sweating so much 😅

[@broose5240]

@@ilbro7874 as long as its under 400w

[@Scherrah1010]

And upon release time, a lot start weeping while reading the ridiculous price tag, let alone the power consumption that card will generate although the performance announced is remarkable…

[@techluvin7691]

Yeah………BS. Not even close to replacing a dedicated GPU. Maybe on the low end……..but that’s it.

[@ninjaspider_YT]

6:25 you know what else is massive?

[@chrisking6695]

Now wait for Nvidia to join the APU market. If they team up with Intel they may deliver an outstanding product.

[@marshabrightly1307]

nope...high TDP .....

[@GiulianoMazzina]

Your face cam covers information on the screen. Make it smaller or ditch it. Its not needed.

[@dcikaruga]

Title is click bait. 😁 Some truth to it though, especially budget and low end GPU's. Doesn't make any sense to me though because only high end CPU's get the high end iGPU's while we'd really want the low end CPU's to get the high end iGPU's accompanied with it.

[@arch1107]

what you are not getting is that amd is moving towards apus first, gpus perhaps later nvidia is now a ai company, so their desktop offerings sucks if you dont take into account this information, you will not get the whole picture people will still want high end gpus, but at 3 or 4000 dollars, well, let them have them all, normal people will use apus, specially if they are this good and this power efficient

[@dcikaruga]

@@arch1107 Seems to be focusing on the laptop market more from those slideshows.

[@arch1107]

@@dcikaruga yes, laptops using apus, it will be a gaming on apu world now, not to mention mobile pc gaming on steam deck and the rest of competitors

[@Wolfstanus]

@@arch1107 Gpus do not cost 3 to 4k. Midrange hovers as low as 500ish as it pretty much always has. GPUs are not going extinct.

[@arch1107]

@@Wolfstanus lol, go buy a 5090, dont come back telling me how much it was midrange will be replaced by apus, that was the point of the video...

[@khanshoyeb7]

People.really care rhis much about naming ? I see specs and grab it.

[@herobrinecyberdemon8104]

Boomers bots need to write something. AMD is not the one dictating the marketing insanity in the sector, so they must go with it.

[@dillon4813]

whats a 7060 xt?

[@henrikg1388]

6:08 What's a 7060 XT that has less than 40 CU? Sure you didn't mean 7600 XT?

[@Trxpy-f4x]

6:25 yk what else is massive?

[@thephantomrealm]

LOWWW-

[@supersoundset]

At 11:10, Available Q2 2025... times two! 😀

[@IgorL-rv1mn]

I was looking into camara software, that auto identifies criminal activity, thats what i would need that 2.2faster and 87% lower tdp as i would have to be very mobile considering the nature of violent crime.

[@herobrinecyberdemon8104]

should we ask questions?

[@markgaches1961]

Where the hell or the Desktop APU's?

[@arch1107]

amd will push mobile apus first, later the destop apus with the big specs, right now the mobile pc gaming is growing really fast

[@herobrinecyberdemon8104]

@@arch1107 AMD must strike at intel while the latter has its atrocious financial situation. Teach them good for bribing OEM/prebuilt manufacturers for decades.

[@arch1107]

@@herobrinecyberdemon8104 amd already did that 4 years ago intel was worth 260 billions in the stock market, right now is not even 90, and going down amd back then wasnt 60 billions, right nowis like 200 and is expected to reach 240 next year, if not this year intel right now expects companies to abandon nvidia and embrace their new ai intel gpus, do you see that happening? i dont meanwhile amd is amsorbing desktops and server, well, those that have not been absorbed by arm solutions, still waiting to amd response to arm, a amd arm hybrid with fpga cores

[@arch1107]

from the leaks, pretty much all leaks about amd were true, lets see how bad is nvidia now

[@Rabessey]

Graphics Core is abbreviated as CU, not GC?

[@lappiestofdogslapdog]

Compute Units

[@wojciechjabonski9118]

CUs are not cores... it's just an arbitrary way of grouping HW pieces into blocks/units... unlike CPU cores, you cannot compare those blocks among different GPU architectures

[@petersketch1990]

That was great stuff we want.

[@KuraiBeat]

finally i found any one with the MAX instead only this useless to expensive GPUS! the compare is weird ryzen ai max+395 vs CU 9288v ... i looked at benchmarks the intel apu has 19 points and my old cheap r5 5600g with set powerlimit down runs at benchmak with 17watts and has 45points... so the new ai 395 is 0,25x faster then my old ryzen 5 5600g apu? so its a ryzen 5 8600g like??? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 i know i cant compare it because windows and linux cant compare :D yes i know its weird this foil of the "power predictions of amd" i really hope the strix apus comes too to desktop this would be nice for tiny itx builds unter 2-4liters (maybe under 1liter depends on cooling is needed)

[@flameinfiren5565]

No they are not

[@Peppy34420]

[@wtftolate3782]

The wall behind you is atrocious!

[@theslicefactor4590]

Dislike for the egregious clickbait title.

[@advil000]

That's it, enough clickbait titles. I'm out.

[@broose5240]

amd trying to put intel out of business. Dgpu, people buy nvid anyways

[@marshabrightly1307]

at the end of the day ..APU is the future .....even NVIDIA are trying to make their own APU......dGPU is dying

[@MrCageta]

Caseoh on news again

[@fluoxethine]

No, they are not! Stop saying that coz PC gaming will die! xD

[@Tanmay0607]

this guy keeps clickbaiting

[@alexs6794]

AMD naming system is absolutely exhausting and stupid. Fire whoever is in charge of marketing, they have zero idea what they are doing. I love AMD and the direction they are heading, but trying to explain this to anybody who is not in the industry is so diffcult and almost impossible to keep them following along. AMD needs to do some rebranding for the names of all desktop, laptop, and GPU units so that they make sense to the average individual.

[@nykz2358]

just APUs or some sht

[@TheInsaneupsdriver]

with the Max + having a GPU almost as good as a 4070, i call it a win for entry level and mid range gamers.

[@brian5230]

Can you say new Xbox 😂😂😂😂

[@IanIsReallyCrazy]

10:15 AMD walks backword, like Intel canceling the mutlithreading of CPU

[@lappiestofdogslapdog]

In what way?

[@arch1107]

no, nvidia is now a ai company, gpus they will sell will not be gpus you will want to buy, amd will push hard on mobile pc gaming, since it is growing this fast, so there you have it, apus that kick hard desktop gpus, it is not clickbait you are expecting to see a specific date, but it is a movement, time will tell when this will reach the point where you buy a gpu because you needed some cuda crap for some ai bs and had to buy a gpu, meanwhile you play on a apu

[@herobrinecyberdemon8104]

@@arch1107 Mobile chips release with the systems they come with, so release dates are completely in the hands of the OEMs.

[@arch1107]

@@herobrinecyberdemon8104 while that is true, they must be ready to be delivered and that depends on amd, not oems, you do know oems sometimes release those almost instantly, right?

[@herobrinecyberdemon8104]

@@arch1107 Laptops usually launch starting at the end of February every year. Nothing new.

[@ohwhatworld5851]

So they are claiming huge performance increase when comparing their new chip that goes up to 120w to Intels chips which sip power at what, 30w? So stupid.

[@einstien2409]

That 40 core iGPU CPU called "AI MAX AI PRO AI ULTIMATE AI mega giga AI" will probably cost 2000$ +. for that price you can get a 5070+ making that cpu totally useless.

[@GamerzEye]

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[@HyrnoProdo]

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[@titanslayr82]

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[@horizon3603]

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[@titanslayr82]

@@horizon3603 false, I am a real person with a high end PC and instantaneous notifications. Cry abt it

[@ilbro7874]

You are really fake news​@@titanslayr82