Dance Major Reacts: Irene & Seulgi "Naughty" (놀이)

[@alicecheah6459]

They never studied this kind of dance like tuting, vogging..... before. They study for Naughty. Lets just appreciate how talented and how hard they worked. This is so so incredible.

[@tonton_vu6258]

voguing* and it's vogue new way

[@alicecheah6459]

@@tonton_vu6258 thanks for correction. I dont know dance, I just listen from others, so I spell it wrong. Sorry about that.

[@michaelagabrielle1651]

And the fact they only learn tuting and mastering for 1,5 months for this comeback is crazy. I appreciate them so hard for this comeback😭❤💛

[@thehainote1082]

@@tonton_vu6258 yesss new way vogue with hella angles and precisions and flexibility. Right off the bat I saw the influences of vogue hand performance in this choreo

[@isnairahbatua8937]

Its rare to have reactors who speaks content and I just found one

[@gracegrimms1627]

snayrah 22 ❤️❤️❤️

[@hak8585]

Totally agree

[@angelaalvarezt]

Finally

[@popclarice]

Totally agree 👍

[@Jacob-Pogicat]

If you want a music producers POV, check out AZODI. He's a k/jpop producer who does breakdowns and reactions.

[@erinepp5396]

Waiting for them to perform this at shows.... They're really gonna perform this dance on music shows, sadly the cameramen will not know how to film it and it'll look really messy but oh well. They're main and lead dancers of RV for a reason! Apparently they practiced for a month to get the basics then actual choreo took about 3 months

[@gracegrimms1627]

The amount of time sounds about right for a dance like this! It takes so long to perfect things like this

[@cloudysupreme9859]

RV so what you’re saying is it’ll take us 80 years to learn the dance 😂💀

[@ciel_redvelvet8083]

Rest assured my friend, the cameraman did a great job

[@jamestudtud]

They performed in kbs music bank

[@Carolina-bw6gy]

They did! Yesterday the era has ended Monster had I guess 8 stages, Naughty 3 music shows!!!! Check it out they are so gracious, magnificent

[@nic3928]

you know that the dance choreo is difficult when lisa rhee hasn't uploaded a dance tutorial on her channel

[@subhashini_ramesh1421]

Check more than youth. They did a great job covering this song

[@hyun.everse]

Okay but so true😂😂😂😂 after i saw the dance i immediately looked for lisa’s cover cuz we all know how quick she is and to my surprise there wasnt one😳😳 but forreal soooo true😂😂😂

[@loreineannesanjose6613]

Even now HAHAHAHAHAHA

[@nheilvocal3801]

Trueeee

[@darshicakishore246]

yea more than youth did it perfectlyyy

[@ed208]

The music and styling is so SM, it's like SM at it's purest... As in the MV and Clothing are later BoA vibes... The dance reminded me of 4 walls FX, and Genie Girls generation, and they have a few segments from monster... Like SM are trendsetters, revolutionary, they create the standards of Kpop, but still sticks to what makes/made SM... Keeping it true to their roots...

[@joygingatan4659]

amen.

[@bingewatcher7537]

Yasss. I'm getting 4 walls vibe. Glad you feel the same

[@tdc966]

yes finally someone with the same thoughts as i am

[@asyas9316]

it also gave me such exo vibes with the auto tune and the kind of house sound

[@jwi4266]

thats why sm is still the leading kpop company. they may be bad in promoting their artists but their music and artists are one of a kind

[@ChiZillaaa]

Voguing and Waacking are two TOTALLY different styles. Yes, you are correct in saying one started in east coast and one started west coast. And both originated in the LGBTQ community. The choreographer is actually someone who trained with Tutat who is probably the FATHER of Tutting at this point, but she started as a waacker. His (Tutat's) signature has always been using diagonal and 3D tuts which is displayed here. I would say this piece has a mainly tut-focused dynamic with elements of Waacking (mainly lines and arms, no actual waacks) and VERY little vogue. Waacking and Vogue are two separate entities with different "concepts" or elements, as we call it. It's a lot to talk about in just one KZbin comment, but you should really look into it. However, in terms of the actual dance itself, both Seulgi and Irene were better than one another in some aspects. Seulgi REALLY showed how good her lines were in comparison to Irene. Her angles are much sharper and she keeps all her 90° angles really well. Definitely showed strength and power in the dance. But Irene does the finger tuts/micro movements and keeps a really soft femininity throughout the video/choreography. Both displayed their charms very well. I loved it as someone who waacks and knows the culture.

[@ughwhydoidothisendme8477]

Please tell me who the choreographer is! I've been trying so hard to find out who it is, I have my suspicions as to who it is, though I'm probably wrong

[@ChiZillaaa]

@@ughwhydoidothisendme8477 It's Spella.

[@ela7354]

ChiZillaaa Where can I find their choreos + social media?

[@_de_reve]

thanks for the info!! i truly enjoy to learn the lgbt origins of art styles in al categories as a lesbian art historian myself

[@mantaren]

Lines and hand performance are a huge part of the oldschool vogue style as well, so I do believe there's an amount of old school vogue influence in certain parts of the choreography. Tutting and waacking is definitely there in the more fluid and finger / forearm tutting sections respectively, but there are other sections that one wouldn't classify as either tutting or waacking, which seem to be oldschool hand performance - when their core is staying solid without turning and twisting that is.

[@dondon_dr]

Fun fact: In their korean lyrics they write the Naughty part as 놀이 (Nori) which means play/game.

[@_de_reve]

it also means to tease someone

[@starrlight222]

I also found the 아슬아슬한 (aseul aseul han) part to be very cool too~ (since it’s their unit name and means dangerous in Korean)

[@dondon_dr]

@@starrlight222 woah good catch. nice word play.

[@bigmaaan]

on a real note how in the world does one remember all that tutting :0

[@nikkiminajj47]

Muscle memory

[@bigmaaan]

Niki K even with muscle memory, it’s a lot of different moves

[@lewlavabra6811]

i know right ?! it amazes me how incredibly clean and precise their movements are. can't even begin to imagine how much work was put into learning this choreography.

[@bigmaaan]

Lewlav Abra honestly, it must’ve taken so much practice time too get it perfect

[@natd602]

Basically you have to do it over and over and over again so that your muscle memory is much more accurate. This was most definitely rehearsed for months. But once you have it down, it’s so fun!!

[@makogerald7014]

Seeing the choreography made my brain exploded. Every step has own choreo. So many to memorized

[@lucienguyen4055]

The choreo and camera work is absolutely insane. I wonder how it'd look on stage.

[@kasseyflor7530]

Finally SM finally showcase their dancing TllT they’re so underrated thank you for reacting to them 🥺❤️

[@kasseyflor7530]

Omgeee react to episode two 😳😩

[@bernaldenicemarie7493]

Grace: "It's so unique" RED VELVET THING 💁‍♀️

[@gottlob1772]

Just red velvet thingss

[@xcxjjku]

Amen.

[@tayln4908]

I love how she's saying how hard the dance is and I'm over here thinking about doing this as my dance midterm... and I don't even know vogue or tutting. Well, good thing I'm learning this 7 months in advance.

[@reemashraf2031]

Good luck! I am sure you can do this !!

[@ichliebebaeumeweilbaum]

Good luck :D

[@162benjamin]

Good luck~

[@vivivalley]

i hope you do well :)

[@an_extension]

Please please upload or record your performance

[@kairos-049]

All I want is to see Chungha and Lee Chaeyeon do a cover of this dance.

[@lfigue3]

Yes

[@JyanDagdagan]

oh gahd! that'll be insane 🔥

[@c41vids_]

WE SHALL MANIFEST THIS

[@kribyy7784]

I don't think they know tutting, it isn't idol dance so i wouldn't be surprised if they didn't know it

[@JyanDagdagan]

@@kribyy7784 Aseul dont know tutting as well tho. they learned it specifically for naughty.. i think between chaeyoung & chungha, maybe chung knows bit basics of tutting. idk i just feel like it by the way she controls her hands whenever she dances hehe

[@Li-xb1mw]

I heard the dance teacher spend 5 months to create the dance 🤯 and there’s already dance cover

[@kadabra4009]

Well creating sth is of course a lot more difficult than just copying ^^

[@zmz7795]

KADABRA very true. People should learn to appreciate choreographers.

[@candirita]

And yes (no shade) but most people who make dance covers don't perfect perfect it, and their main goal is to learn it asap and then to film and put it up. Perfecting a dance takes months

[@anweshadash6212]

yes and we should appreciate bith... becasue creatign a whole different ballgame ...and someone to be skilled enough to pick up on such a geometrical technical choreo in days time is aamzinggg

[@doubleknotsonmyyeezys5498]

Lmao i only learnt the choruses in less than 3 hours.. my wrists hurt so bad

[@ma-ri-ko]

This track is straight up Janet Jackson, self-titled era b-sides. SM artists seem kinda partial to the Janet influence, thinking specifically of NCT-127 Superhuman and Luna’s Free Somebody.

[@darukona7218]

I was thinking of it like a b-side vibe and I love b-sides :)

[@chewnana_]

I thought it was like jackson as well! especially the geometric and exact dance moves

[@_de_reve]

yeah true! '90s RnB is really a big influence in pop all over the world right now

[@ultimetacooler]

Yuri literally covering one of her songs too lol

[@layloo5244]

Yess ^ remember when SNSD Yuri did janet jacksons ‘if’ at a concert

[@tamia4907]

Oh my god that shout out to black lgbtq+ folk on tutting wacking and vogueing......i dont see that often i love that u did that 😌🌠

[@tonton_vu6258]

For those who are not familiar, this is called vogue new way, which sometimes uses elements of tutting. As the style is all about creating shape, boxes, squares and loads fo stretches, also there's no waacking in it.

[@d._.eno_o2723]

grace: that thing, im not even gonna try it also grace: well im gonna try but its not gonna be what it was IM DYING HAHAHAAHAH 😭😭😭

[@keithcheng1601]

Naughty is one of the best dancing MVs I've watched in 2020. Proud of my girls ❤💛🐰🐻

[@harmoniamahira9670]

"It'd be alot for audience to look at, it'd kinda be sensory overload." I just got it now. Maybe that's why SM use monochrome theme, because irene and seulgi already serve gorgeous visual and INTENSE performance so the neutral costumes will balance it. SM knew WE CAN'T HANDLE IT.

[@whatzuptoto]

Oooh, you've never seen Four Walls by F(x), have you? That's a fun dance, too, and it's kind of like the precursor to this one (this is way harder). But a lot of F(x) got switched over to Red Velvet. Most of their members were trainees at the same time , but Kyle Hanagami has worked with both groups and it's easy to see their SM choreographer also takes inspo from years of adjusting Hanagami's dances. This was one of SM's choreographers (beatburgerjae) and a hand choreographer named Spella (it took 5 months to make I guess?) and Monster was Janelle Ginestra. I didn't know hand choreographers existed until Naughty came out.

[@dondon_dr]

Yes! please watch Four Walls by F(x)!

[@bembembee7056]

So that's why I got vibes similar to some of exo's songs from the song and choreo because of beatburgerjae

[@pumpkinonwheels4238]

Oh man, really? I didn’t know Kyle Hanagami worked with them! He’s one of my favorites. I did know Janelle (who I also love) choreographed Monster. Cool to see some of my faves getting such awesome work!!

[@whatzuptoto]

@@pumpkinonwheels4238 Hanagami did Four Walls. For Red Velvet, he's choreographed Red Flavor, Power Up, Peek-a-Boo, Be Natural, and Ice Cream Cake.

[@rvae5512]

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[@_burthday_]

Fun fact : All of Red Velvet is a Main vocalist, Main Dancer, Main Rapper, Visual, Center, FOTG And ngl, Both of them are the main dancer, vocalist and rappers in the subunit

[@theabrasileno1921]

11:40 same sis. I feel ya. This is my 2nd fave gg choreo next to butterfly. Whoever thought about using waacking and tutting together (in SM) needs a raise.

[@Rhaphidophile]

The song is definitely fit for a runway

[@sza7790]

What makes it so much harder than it already is, is the fact that there is barely any repetition (maybe even just the part where they sing "let's go, let's go"...?)

[@ohanabii]

agreed theres also a lot of unique movements which id say isn't basic in tutting (but it might just be because of their hand shapes hehe) ^^ i think the only parts they repeat are the first chorus, first half of the second chorus, and that chorus outro part where they sing naughty~ naughty~ naughty~ oh eh ah oh

[@makisekurisu6778]

11:47 you're eyes are literally sparkling hahaha so cute

[@gracegrimms1627]

🥺💕

[@Deadlllines]

I was waiting for your reaction 'cause I knew you'd totally love the choreography, it's pretty amazing what they did here

[@gracegrimms1627]

its so goooooood

[@KaylahH]

this is one of the most SM songs sm was released in a whileeee and I'm so glad!!

[@laurenkang4275]

I wondered if you will make a reaction again for Irene & Seulgi and yes you did! Thanks Grace for sharing your insights as a performer too 🥺🖤

[@delossantosfijimari6758]

SM ARTISTS 👍💯💯Visual ✔ Performance ✔ Talent ✔ MV ✔💖

[@yacintaandreana5227]

Is it weird if i just focus on her hair? It looks shining

[@sammanaligod4019]

The vibe is actually like Greedy tho, no wonder they've covered greedy before their sub unit 😍

[@will-q8c7j]

*Grace* : How is she 30? Me: same question🤔

[@JynxTheClown666]

The style would be a combo of tutting( the hand/finger focused moves) and New Way Vogue( the full arm/elbow focused moves) one of my favorite choreos I’ve seen recently it’s actually so fun to do!

[@deadvdd]

the MV of "Naughty remix" is so Magic!

[@chinibuyan1755]

I had half a mind to sit this reaction vid down but I'm glad I didn't. It's quite insightful and it was nice to know about the origin of the dance styles they did in Naughty. Your reactions were enjoyable too! They weren't too much and it's also quite calming lol. PS. is actually a follow-up single after and will be promoted this week, I think. The video is a stand-alone MV that will also be followed-up by Irene's solo performance (out now on RV's KZbin channel) and the MV for Seulgi's solo song

[@noviaazzahra4983]

10:40 "How is she like 30?" Me: Well, Asian

[@belle-ashton2167]

Love your outfit and analysis, their dance is so symmetrical, they are portraying mirrors! Arms choreographies are AS HARD as footwork. Gfriend’s Apple and Loona’s Butterfly intro were also pretty smooth.

[@yon9533]

I had the same reaction when irene solo part and seulgi solo part when irene's hand came out, it is incredible. Also as a reveluv knowing that rv try a lot of things, i wondered when will rv try to do tutting/vogueing/waacking, and then bam naughty came out. I am so glad i stan red velvet

[@someoneanonontheinternet]

Actually enjoyed your reaction videos about Irene and Seulgi, it is not like that typical just reacting on things and was not overreacted. Thank you for recognizing Irene and Seulgi, hopefully next time we would get a content about the whole group, Red Velvet❤.

[@soph5098]

truly incredible i am so proud of them

[@aranara_song]

As much as I love all of the other releases this summer like Maria and pporappippam, Irene and Seulgi were definitely the best, just the talent needed for all of this is insane

[@alifputra2640]

I really like when you talking about their dance 😳😳😳 Thats reaction is like me when i first watching that mv.. Is so stunning and focus to their choreography.. Btw when you said irene looks so young, i even more suprised with you.. This is my first time watching ur reaction and you looks like a kid too.. You are so pretty too noona 😆

[@nicolehernandezg1]

The songs gives me ZARA (the store) vibes like I would be waaking and tutting all over the place 😂

[@valerie8679]

love this reaction i had been waiting for it all day !! btw 30 is still young lmao

[@gracegrimms1627]

Ye I just meant that she looks younger than 30 (like 20 lol) even though 30 isn’t old at all

[@darukona7218]

yeah also some people in their twenties look like 30 and vice versa. for me she looks in her twenties anyway (and people who are 30 look like they are in their 20's too in general)

[@builephuongthi7933]

Yesss it is absolutely visually incredible !!!

[@inquisitvem6723]

this was your highest rated video with over 142k views...wow! you've come a long way

[@adamfong6966]

Great reaction and explanation of this awesome MV! It is so complicated but they make it look so simple and effortless!

[@russelmaximoff646]

The best reaction Ive seen. Facts facts facts. I prefer facts over cussing and spazzing reactors. ❤️❤️❤️

[@rrrayhanah]

I was actually just waiting for a dance major to react to this mv

[@I_LOVE_NMIXX.ITZY.Red_Velvet_2]

Their dancing is GREAT !! 🔥🔥

[@luna3509]

Now, I sort of want to see her reaction with Loona's Butterfly-

[@gracegrimms1627]

I actually have a video posted reacting to Butterfly by LOONA :)

[@luna3509]

@@gracegrimms1627!!!!!! Definitely checking it out! Thank you!!! :] Edit: I just actually checked it. I can't believe I've already watched it months ago, yet didn't recognize you. lol As always, thank you for the great content!

[@negritolindo8838]

first second was like: Look that cute baby face aww...damm that husky voice Madame

[@chuuu4610]

I agree. Irene looks like a beautiful ageless fairy. She hasn’t aged for a very long time. I don’t know much about dance but F(x)’s 4Walls has a similar look to this. Same company too. You don’t see much of the dance in the music video so you’d have to watch a music show preformance.

[@roguex9469]

To be honest this reminds me a lot of the Tecktonik/Shuffle/Hardstyle era that I was into during the early 2000s. But even then it does not compare to the level of dance this choreography requires. With Tecktonik it is pretty much improvised wacking, shuffle, and tutting. This Naughty dance is fully choreographed to follow along with the song until the very end. Applause for the choreographers that worked on this along with the producers, film crew, dance crew, and stylists.

[@mey_sima2927]

I totally agree with u... Thanks, i like so much your reaction for naughty mv... 👍🏻💯💯💯💯

[@bubbletea3456]

You rambled just the right amount :) Thank you for the reaction!

[@gracegrimms1627]

❤️❤️❤️

[@bubbletea3456]

@@gracegrimms1627 by the way, have you seen Dongkiz - Lupin dance practice? The cane work there is insane.

[@frantzfudoshian1548]

I'm new to your channel, when this song came out last night, I instantly thought of their Be Natural Era, RV are the queens of confusing dancing

[@marcofelipecalderon2190]

THANK U!!! I'm sooooo here for the cultural reference about the real influences on the dance and how it has to be truly appreciated by people and not just used and claimed!!!

[@sia.T]

이 분이 가장 제대로 리액션하시네~~👍

[@acidangeIasia]

Irene: walks* Grace: OMFG WHAT ITS HAPPENING GIVE IT TO ME YASSSSS MONSTER

[@H00TGRLZ]

THIS IS EVERYTHING WE WANT OMG GOOD BYE 2020 I’M SO DONEE!!!

[@maryamm1334]

First of all, i like your hair it just seems like silk Also thank u so much for giving us information unlike most part of utubers it's so appreciated 🤍

[@DoYouThinkImAGeek]

The SM instagram has some videos of other artists covering a bit of the dance from the chorus as the Naughty Challenge - i think Hyo has done it and Jeno and Jaemin from NCT Dream

[@ladoodoo8033]

She is so cute! I love her voice! I really like your videos!

[@gracegrimms1627]

🥺💕

[@bfiorella]

A good black pantsuit looks INCREDIBLE, I agree. Also, I love your videos and you have an adorable nose. ^_^

[@gracegrimms1627]

Thank you 🥺 my nose is an insecurity of mine, so thank you for the little confidence boost ❤️

[@Rhaphidophile]

I couldn't even count how many times I screamed watching the MV

[@agatahighstein]

She's so pretty, imma add my thought here once I watched the whole vid but atm that's my comment edit: ok so I don't have specific thoughts but I loved it. it was a really fun and entertaining video. im also a dancer and its nice to see someone with those kinds of insights react to this.

[@megban7821]

I love your Genuine reaction ❤😽 I do too... Love those Girls😻🥰

[@mekhi3756]

i remember the first person i saw tutting was my uncle and i’ve been learning it for 4 years now and my favorite gg has done that

[@eldritchseraphim]

>video starts >0.5 seconds in >"OH MY GOD- OH MY GOD-" girl, us too.

[@hereforagoodtime8427]

They just released episode 2 titled “Irene”

[@MrAresxy07]

Damn really?they are still promoting monster then naughty just got released and now u are telling me there is a new video 😲😲😱😱

[@3llekc]

I'm 29 old too and lot of people think i'm younger than that (like 24 or less ). I think it's more because when you are in your 20-30 your face don't move that much and it's hard to put a real age on you just by your look. Anyway i'm happy to have a fellow 1991 kid in kpop, everyone is so young nowadays it's hard to feel connected to them sometimes.

[@fkmui03]

Its like im studying programming with code for dance.

[@touwaerio3500]

This is the first time in watching one of your videos and I loved and agreed with your analysis completely!!! You just gained yourself a new subscriber! 😁 (ps. Since you say that you like girl crush vibes, I'm wondering if you've seen G(idle)'s stuff. Their songs "Oh My God" , "Lion" , "Hann", and "Uh oh" are really good and it would be awesome if you did a reaction on one of them! Anyways hope you have a wonderful day and stay safe!

[@mathieudorce1559]

Thanks for your reaction !! It’s always nice to see how you appreciate all the effort that was put into the choreography !! Also I don’t know if you are aware but Irene is coming out with a solo dance performance today at 12pm kst if I’m not mistaken !! It’ll be a mashup of all the songs on the album. Then Seulgi is probably gonna come out with a Performance for Uncover the next day. It’s her solo track from the album

[@canselatlhan1816]

I am in love with your reaction 😍🥰🦋💖💖

[@olimelonhead12]

Every time I hear your intro I always think, man I really hope she knows where that's from haha. I really hope you listen to ADTR cause I would never have expected it haha

[@artsy_az7962]

In terms of covers, *The Boyz* And *NCT Dream* had some members cover it (I'm a sucker for bg doing gg choreo) and they SLAYED IT 👌

[@xyz9845]

14:27 Havoc Dance already did a cover of that choreo and it was pretty accurate. :o I appreciate how you explain what's going on and give your input as a dancer. Wish more reaction vids were like that.

[@boomchicka5830]

I came here for irene and seulgi but how adorable you are

[@cem950]

She's so elegant 😭😭😳

[@blas_de_lezo7375]

best analysis so far

[@iHeartNaru]

apparently it took the two of them about 5 months to learn tutting n the choreo which is crazy- n its so refreshing to see more unique dance styles incorporated into kpop choreo like tutting, voguing, n waacking (ik theres been other idols whove done these styles in their choreos before but not to this extent i feel like)

[@HorrorHound87]

Just Subbed to your channel, Grace and loved your Reaction & Explanation of the video as a Dancer 😎👍

[@ariefsugiharto8230]

I came here because Irene & seulgi 🤍🖤 But, i see my queen too in the background.. HELLO it's me 😁🤍

[@ssamamahupi.7i997]

luv ur reaction~ ❤😘🇮🇩

[@mige14linares14]

What a beautiful top you're wearing 😻

[@hak8585]

thank you very much, finally someone is analyzing the video not only fanboying about it

[@쎄이호우]

11:38 쾌감 오지네ㅋㅋㅋ 이 분이 리액션도 좋고 하나하나 찝어서 잘 코멘트 해주셔서 좋네

[@melaniescrybaby8382]

Actually someone just did a cover to this! And they did it perfectly like its soo perfect! I don’t remember what their channel but its a boys Edit: their channel is Simon Salcedo

[@yumihs2]

ok first of all you're so pretty

[@aeralv8649]

Really love your insights! Enjoyed your video 💕

[@gracegrimms1627]

aeralv ❤️❤️❤️

[@vaffangool9196]

Did anybody else have to pop away for a second for a refresher on that Ariana Grande song?

[@sensitiffly]

thank you so much for the shoutout to black dancers and lgbt dancers for creating the styles of dance highlighted in this choreo!

[@crabcakes7784]

There’s a group that covered this song and they killed it!

[@love_cuteme8314]

Thank you so much for your reaction for naughty MV of Red velvet♥ This is really a hard choreo and they slayed♥

[@hestiwindariswanti6042]

Welcome to Irene and seulgi's world of RV..:d