Grading Green Commander Staples of EDHREC | Which Green Staples are Worth Playing?

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Which green staples from EDHrec are worth playing? We've got answers!
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We're looking at EDHrec staples, grading them and vocalizing how often we'd play them! Let us know if you enjoy this video in the comments!

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@hiddenleaf414
@hiddenleaf414 3 жыл бұрын
I think a big reason Sylvan Library is rated higher to most people over all the other cards Joe named is by the time you have played and gotten advantage of any of the cards Joe mentioned you would have gotten to use Sylvan Library 2-4 times. That’s a lot of card advantage/deck manipulation before any of the other spells get their value.
@AnExercisInThought
@AnExercisInThought 3 жыл бұрын
CDH values cards as stand alone vs synergy. Sylvan Library is completely stand alone, no build around or board state required. There are very little board states that turn it off, so the average floor and ceiling are right next to each other. Synergy wins over stand alone with most builds and win conditions and that doesn't change till a certain level of what I've heard called "Card Quality" and average CMC of like 1.7-2.3.
@Nr4747
@Nr4747 2 жыл бұрын
It really depends on if/how much library manipulation matters for your deck. If you're playing Courser of Kruphix, Oracle of Mul Daya, Augur of Autumn, Vizier of the Menagerie and maybe even Garruk's Horde, then Sylvan Library is obviously going to be insanely powerful, even in an otherwise less powerful deck and less combo-focused meta. If all you ever do with the Library is draw 2 extra cards per turn for 8 life per turn, it's still very powerful but can go wrong very quickly for obvious reasons - and that rate is also unlikely to be very sustainable. Then again, that's assuming roughly mid power levels in a normal game of Commander, far removed rom CEDH. If your table aims to win ultra fast mana into tutors into Tained Pact + Thassa's Oracle on turns 2/3 every game, library obviously is insane in a "stax-y" deck trying to counter that.
@davidreeves4165
@davidreeves4165 Жыл бұрын
N. , n. 🎉🎉🎉.
@juice17776
@juice17776 3 жыл бұрын
Lands is one of the most popular archetypes. Cultivate, Kodama's Reach, Harrow, and Crop Rotation are all insane in this archetype.
@elipetrou9308
@elipetrou9308 2 жыл бұрын
Eh
@Nr4747
@Nr4747 2 жыл бұрын
Cultivate and Kodama's Reach are really great cards in any mid-power level commander deck that's 3 or more colors, imho. It's a ramp spell that's also a 2-for-1, double fixes your mana base and guarantees your follow-up land drop. Those cards have saved me a number of times because I got to 5 mana despite not drawing more than 3 lands in my mid powered decks. I highly recommend them for anyone not aiming for a deck that isn't an 8-10/10 on the "casual" commander power level scale.
@tommieboi707
@tommieboi707 2 жыл бұрын
@@Nr4747 agreed I love cultivate. My play group likes to play longer games with hardly any tutors. Cultivate works great in my ur dragon deck.
@DanG626
@DanG626 3 жыл бұрын
I still love Cultivate and Kodama’s Reach. 3 mana to ramp one land is not good enough, but the fact that it guarantees your next land drop pushes it to very playable. You’re guaranteed your fifth land, which is a big deal for a lot of green decks. Especially if your commander is 5 cmc+
@darthrevan8376
@darthrevan8376 2 жыл бұрын
If your commander is 5 cmc or more its great but below that I feel like its to slow.
@GabetheFrog_
@GabetheFrog_ 3 жыл бұрын
I love how Explosive Vegetation is so bad the only time Joe could see himself using it is Vegetable Tribal lmao. Great video Nerds ❤️
@aquanecromancer5776
@aquanecromancer5776 3 жыл бұрын
Bummer cause the art looks so good in that old Invasion border
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 3 жыл бұрын
It has just been out classed so much
@eamonshea4566
@eamonshea4566 3 жыл бұрын
I recently built a list for the first time in years and got my friend to help me out. The deck had green so instinctively I added a boom veggies. My buddy laughed and called it boomer veggies and showed me a strict upgrade that had been printed. Cards sure have gotten better.
@brandonbrooks779
@brandonbrooks779 3 жыл бұрын
Okay but I'm literally gonna make a veggie tribal meme deck now, I need forests from the nissa duel deck with the lettuce looking set symbol
@Jerhevon
@Jerhevon 2 жыл бұрын
@@NitpickingNerds Agree. Arguments can be made for Skyshroud Claim, since you can get refunded GG right away. But I've been going to Verdant Mastery of late since it feels like the Cultivate version... the decks I have that want to ramp that hard still need to make their land drops too. Thus, like Cultivate, you get your ramp onto the battlefield AND have a land card now in hand to play.
@ThePestilentDefiler
@ThePestilentDefiler 3 жыл бұрын
Grip can split second a sac outlet. For that reason alone its worth keeping.
@wanderingwatcher3981
@wanderingwatcher3981 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it also stops artifact related combos. That said, my play-group have banned a lot, including any effect that searches/shuffles, all infinite combos, stax and any alternate win/lose con (yes, even stuff like infect). Basiclly: we just play vanilla magic, nothing fancy. The games are longer and more about interacting efficently/out-valuing over time. So I´ve cut Grip because it's not mana efficent, which matter more when there are no combo wins.
@Dracomandriuthus
@Dracomandriuthus 3 жыл бұрын
@@wanderingwatcher3981 One of my biggest issues with formats like that is that it's still *really* easy to break those formats. There's a bunch of graveyard decks and spellslinger decks that get access to *oodles* of cards without ever really caring about actual combos. So basically, the issue I've got is that formats like that engender really, really boring playstyles.
@jdogbemple1
@jdogbemple1 3 жыл бұрын
Krosan Grip is a high B+ for me because it's not only uncounterable, it also gets around activated abilities such as a fully loaded Aetherflux Reservoir when priority passes. Sure the moments where it just destroys something without anyone else having counters or actions possible makes it feel less great, but it can be such a game saver in my experience.
@morgoth2425
@morgoth2425 3 жыл бұрын
yea split second is actually insane
@nmonthie9695
@nmonthie9695 3 жыл бұрын
I think there’s more to be said about Heroic Intervention vs. Counterspell. If you counter someone’s board wipe, you also save your opponents’ boards. If you Heroic Intervention, you likely catapult into the lead very easily. Sure, Counterspell has more targets over the course of the whole game but you should probably just play both cards. And you’re leaving out the fact that Heroic Intervention is 2 mana, that’s an insane rate for that type of effect.
@steven6666600000
@steven6666600000 2 жыл бұрын
Sylvan Library is a 2 drop draw card that allows you to get WAY ahead of your opponents and makes sure you get your land drop while sacrificing some life. There's a reason why people hold it higher lol. It makes all the difference to be able to do all that turn 2 versus waiting until turn 4 to play Greater Good and then start drawing. Also all the mana ramp spells are key to a popular type of deck: landfall. You're also thinning the deck whenever you play those cards which will get you to your resources faster.
@EntheogenShaman
@EntheogenShaman 3 жыл бұрын
This series has been fun, I'm gonna be sad when it's over.
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 3 жыл бұрын
Never ending
@michaelbecker1093
@michaelbecker1093 3 жыл бұрын
From a certain point of view, this could never end. They could do each of the two colors spells, three color spell, four color spells, five color spells, colorless spells (although those would probably just be artifacts). If they wanted to be really nitpicky they could do the top X in each color of instants, sorceries, colored artifacts, enchantments, and non-basic lands of a specific color
@EJsGameplay
@EJsGameplay 3 жыл бұрын
I miss the little joke subtitles under your names in the beginning.
@tonyantony6110
@tonyantony6110 3 жыл бұрын
It burns grey matter having to come up with those, especially now they make 3 to 4 full length videos each week... We all love them, but let it be a thing of the past
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 3 жыл бұрын
We love them but to have the higher quality image we had to get rid of them also coming up with new ones was impossible
@EJsGameplay
@EJsGameplay 3 жыл бұрын
@@NitpickingNerds Fair enough, I guess they will rest in peace next to Disclaimer Guy.
@mfitkin
@mfitkin 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for these videos. I feel like I’m going to be referring back to them a lot. Harrow is an all-star in my friend’s Kalamax deck. It’s pretty easy for him to copy it twice. He doesn’t really do any landfall, it’s just a huge ramp spell for him.
@RalpOwns
@RalpOwns 3 жыл бұрын
Oh, great example of when "additional cost" is actually an upside!
@tomascl82
@tomascl82 3 жыл бұрын
Cutivate and kodama's reach has another characteristic that you are not considering. They take 2 lands from your deck making it more consistent and thiner. Thanks to them your next draws are more likely to be cards that you can use and not just lands.
@charyou3167
@charyou3167 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah but the percentage of thinning out two lands over one from just a better ramp spell is so insignificant it’s basically nonexistent
@Akario3
@Akario3 2 жыл бұрын
Problem is, unless you care about the card in hand, just play any of the 4 mana ramps(most of them with upsides to boot). Still a decent card, but not amazing.
@DarioJZ15
@DarioJZ15 3 жыл бұрын
Highly disagree on Krosan Grip. The Split Second is the reason you play Krosan Grip and makes the 3 mana cost worth it.
@kaba9926
@kaba9926 3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget Krosan grip doesn't only avoid counterspells, it also prevent anything stupid like sacrificing stuff in responde
@HomeCookinMTG
@HomeCookinMTG 3 жыл бұрын
Split second is usually irrelevant though. It's a metagame call, but against your average deck nature's claim is just going to out preform it 9 times out of 10.
@DarioJZ15
@DarioJZ15 3 жыл бұрын
@@HomeCookinMTG sure, it doesn’t always come up, and you might go multiple games where it doesn’t, matter, but the split second is the MAIN part of the card. Not every card in your edh deck has to be fully functional every game, you have room for around 3-5 situational cards unless you’re going for full optimization
@JFPKMN
@JFPKMN 3 жыл бұрын
Krosan Grip is so good in a heavy control meta
@CrazyMentor94
@CrazyMentor94 3 жыл бұрын
just ordered some cards to modify my edh decks =) thanks for all the suggestions! You are the best
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for listening 👂
@p1k4nurxp13sr
@p1k4nurxp13sr 3 жыл бұрын
I 100% think Sylvan Library is an A. It plays more like a black card than a green card, and what it does over all of the other card draw options you mentioned, other than being a natural two mana, is that it draws cards ON ITS OWN, and is great at all stages of the game save the “I need an answer literally now” moments. It is incredible on rate, and UGx decks will run it alongside Rhystic/Remora/etc as it is the same caliber and quality of card as a consistent standalone engine as opposed to a synergy piece, and what it lacks in synergy it makes up for in raw power. Sure, a Guardian Project or Great Henge will do obscene things, but on a naked board in topdeck mode, Library guarantees that you can start pulling ahead, whereas the others will still leave you in topdeck mode. All of them are incredible, mind you, but Library is on rate with Ancestral Recall after three turn cycles. That’s a very difficult thing to do for any spell to begin with, and Library is at a low enough mana cost to make it happen on a consistent basis.
@pookygallahad4749
@pookygallahad4749 Жыл бұрын
The fact that your guys’ pre-video intro is so brief is awesome. Y’all have a great format for videos and it’s only getting better
@aciddaddy9532
@aciddaddy9532 3 жыл бұрын
These videos are an awesome exercise in card evaluation and I definitely need the practice as a newer edh player. Thank you guys!
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 3 жыл бұрын
SUPER glad to offer this in a self-contained series!
@uphillwalrus5164
@uphillwalrus5164 3 жыл бұрын
Green is in a weird spot right now where it's really good at supporting itself as a mono color but usually unnecessary combined with other colors. Green's role is usually to just provide your deck with mana dorks and a few staples like veil of summer and noxious revival. I hope green gets more interesting combos and synergies in the future. I think golgari is the only real exception to this atm
@jkattack2640
@jkattack2640 3 жыл бұрын
I think you guys are seriously underrating split second. There's tons of situatio its where its the only way to beat something. Powerful effects like survival of the fittest or other similar on board combos split second is great for a non-blue deck to have a chance to interact
@flol.1741
@flol.1741 3 жыл бұрын
Counterspell instead of Heroic intervention? I get that C-spell is more flexible but Heroic will win you the game single-handedly if you can be the only person at the table with their full board after a board wipe.
@redblackdg
@redblackdg 3 жыл бұрын
Krossan grip saved me a shat ton versus and artifact deck. it deals with rhytic study and other problematic enchantments by not allowing youre opponent to interact. Thats HUGE your 1-2 mana remorval gets countered get recky
@EY325
@EY325 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with most of the takes except for krosan grip there are a lot of "I win" artifact and enchantment interactions in edh for example altar of dementia combos. Its nice to have a removal spell that can't be responded to not an A+ card more like a B.
@steven6666600000
@steven6666600000 2 жыл бұрын
Grim/Basalt monolith paired with Rings is also a great target since that combo goes infinite.
@Atlas_Invictus
@Atlas_Invictus 3 жыл бұрын
Really missing these subtitles at the name title card ;_; Great content though as always!
@niks5463
@niks5463 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like you're judging cards based off your own pod rather than the card itself. Sylvan Library at a B- but a llanowar elves at B+? Heroic Intervention is a debatable card to put in a deck? You also have to compare it to one of the best cards outside of the color (teferi's) to try to make your point? Why are people watching this?
@smashog7500
@smashog7500 3 жыл бұрын
Some of us dislike todays' Age of Power Level that WoTC has rolled out. They are expressing what they like to play, and not like, and it is subjective of course. Why have you not figured out everything 'ranked' is a personal expression of like vs dislike. I very much like the discourse they are offering over their card selections.
@OnreleTehMusicPlayer
@OnreleTehMusicPlayer 3 жыл бұрын
I agree
@kennedynguyen2251
@kennedynguyen2251 3 жыл бұрын
I play heroic intervention in 3 decks that have green and it has yet to fail me. Either their using it wrong or they just don't like it on a personal level
@smashog7500
@smashog7500 3 жыл бұрын
@@kennedynguyen2251 I have actually thrown away Sylvan Library as an perfect example of how I am treating overpowered cards in general. In the actual garbage. Along with cards like Ugin, and a myriad of others. The power level of MTG currently has made me stop playing the game until I can find ppl that like to play with cards older than the past 5 years. As a Day One player, Sylvan Library was a mistake, its not a green card at all. And since that printing, WoTC eventually created a PurpleGreen, cuz Green of today isnt actually Green anymore. I do not trade nor sell. If I pull a card out of a pack and its overpowered to me, it goes to the garbage. Not for trade, not for sale, but for the garbage. Its a personal thing.
@niks5463
@niks5463 3 жыл бұрын
@@smashog7500 that's fair and of course they can have their own opinions....but at the same time, you also have to be honest. If a new player watches this and thinks Sylvan Library is just okay and passes on it while the rest of their pod is running it...they're playing a different game from the start. No one wants to be the person no one's attacking since they're always behind. I understand Sylvan Library is powerful and people won't want to play it because of that but to not rate it appropriately is just dishonest to everyone watching. Heroic can save the game. Mana dorks are horrible if you don't get them within the first 2ish turns as they're slow and creatures are constantly removed (pod dependant of course but mine just kills everything for the sake of it). In the context of giving information to potential new players, giving an unbiased and honest opinion is important.
@nicksakowski2450
@nicksakowski2450 3 жыл бұрын
There’s always is a point in your videos where you say something that puts a huge smile on my face. You guys are awesome! Well done 👏!
@RobMedellin
@RobMedellin 3 жыл бұрын
Heroic Intervention for me is B+. Even in simic I will play this and sometimes it's even better than a counterspell... If there's a boardwipe "OK, my stuff remains" and "even if you want to cast it again my stuff is still indestructible I don't need another spell". And it's not fair to compare it to Teferi's Protection because that's an A+++ and it's on white, the color of protecting.
@RobMedellin
@RobMedellin 3 жыл бұрын
Beast within is A- for me too. The floor is high, it will always be useful, it is never a dead card in your hand. And the ceiling is super high it can remove the biggest threat (granted, as long as it does not have indestructible, hexproof, etc.).
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 3 жыл бұрын
Beast Within is sweet, really good card, I just think it is more replaceable than a lot of the A's we talk about so I am slightly lower on it that Joe grade-wise. -Beezy
@Xepherys20
@Xepherys20 3 жыл бұрын
I especially love Avenger of Zendikar as a follow up to Kodama of the east tree in my Aesi lands matter deck. Cast avenger for 7, make the 7 tokens, trigger Kodama, drop 7 lands, trigger Aesi, draw 7 cards. Gets real fun if I clone Avenger with something such as Progenitor mimic and works well with Psychic Corrosion.
@AnnaJaneMTG
@AnnaJaneMTG 2 жыл бұрын
The reason Cultivate is so much higher over Kodama's reach is that Arcane is so irrelevant that the huge glut of printings means people just have more lying around, and it has many more cooler aesthetic versions than Kodama's
@damienclairat1574
@damienclairat1574 3 жыл бұрын
I like the new changeling reclamation sage for 1G :) Great in tribal decks
@danielg5247
@danielg5247 3 жыл бұрын
I've not been playing magic with the outside world since I was 15-16 years old in the JSS during Onslaught block lol For many years just build group game decks and buy sets of 4 of everything, and when I get together with some childhood friends I bust out my cards and we have hours of enjoyment lol I am 32 years old now and been buying cards since volcanic Island was 25 bucks. Never sold or even traded for that matter, only acquired more singles and booster boxes over the years... And only in the past year I converted my decks into commander. I just wanna let you know that you guys have made our games super fun! Thank you nerds!!
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 3 жыл бұрын
That's amazing to hear Daniel, thank you for commenting!
@faerie7dragon
@faerie7dragon 3 жыл бұрын
Krosan Grip can kill Tops. Punish people using rattlesnake effects. Kill combo pieces through counterspells and things that get around counterspells. It's a meta call. I love blowing up Greater Goods with it, then blowing up the board.
@guerrillagorilla6537
@guerrillagorilla6537 3 жыл бұрын
Congrats on quitting your job and going all-in on this! Love to see the channel growing!
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 3 жыл бұрын
Hells ya!!!
@teddy7799wastaken
@teddy7799wastaken 3 жыл бұрын
I love how in depth you guys go, really useful stuff
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! :D
@emerson685
@emerson685 3 жыл бұрын
On the discussion of Nature's Claim and Krossan Grip, I've actually found Broken Wings really useful. Maybe my meta just happens to have enough flyers to be useful, but the one extra mana above Nature's Claim is almost always negligible, while extra versatility to get rid of a Hushbringer or something like that is super awesome.
@claygillman9351
@claygillman9351 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks guys. I love these "Staple" videos. New to EDH, so this is really helpful.
@PepperMyr
@PepperMyr 3 жыл бұрын
I run Harmonize in GW lands to refuel after dumping the lands in my hand into play. It's a nice glue card.
@1991locked
@1991locked 3 жыл бұрын
You are just missing the interaction between fetch and sylvan library. One of the best deck manipulation set-up
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 3 жыл бұрын
We are aware of the fetch interaction
@Jerhevon
@Jerhevon 2 жыл бұрын
MMm. Wood elves are good. But I need to have a use for that body. In general I want Cultivate more if, IF, I want a 3-mana ramp spell. Wood Elves gets me to four lands and is a body. Cultivate ensures that I hit 5 lands. Making it great for an odd-mana play pattern. Ala T1 Birds - T2 cultivate - T3 5-drop. (Contrast with an even mana ramp pattern, ala T2 Rampant Growth - T3 verdant mastery/other 4 drop)
@Jerhevon
@Jerhevon 2 жыл бұрын
Also, if you're worldly tutoring for wood elves, something has gone horribly wrong.
@StizzardLizzard
@StizzardLizzard 3 жыл бұрын
You guys think split second is meh? Does your group just not play combo or control decks?
@lorcanawithluke
@lorcanawithluke 3 жыл бұрын
I did get rekt by a Krosan Grip many a time by the split-second thing. I dont think I'll be cutting those
@vario6492
@vario6492 3 жыл бұрын
Artifact staples? Staples of each color pair? 🤩🤩🤩 This series is great!!!
@dac314
@dac314 3 жыл бұрын
Rishkar's Expertise ought to have that last slot. I do like Return of the Wildspeaker, but Rishkar's gives you that sweet draw and THEN 5-FREE MANA.
@Domenico44055
@Domenico44055 3 жыл бұрын
Worth noting that Beast Within got considerably better since its printing 10 years ago due to creatures power creep. A vanilla 3/3 wasn't something to fear back then as well but certainly it is not now.
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah a 3/3 without abilities is basically blank cardboard in EDH
@chrishiggins2651
@chrishiggins2651 3 жыл бұрын
Cant wait for the inevitable multicolor staple videos for every color combination!
@Revival_JamZ
@Revival_JamZ 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with mostly everything bar Sylvan Library, card is really near tier S (1-2+ cards per turn, difficult to remove in general, CMC 2, fixes your topdecks), you don't see this level of power in 2 CMC cards.
@DarthSenorQueso
@DarthSenorQueso 3 жыл бұрын
WHat do you use in green outside of cultivate and kodamas reach though? Creature ramp in my meta gets removed over big threats on board often.
@abderianagelast7868
@abderianagelast7868 3 жыл бұрын
This comment is coming from midway through the video, so I haven't seen all the cards yet, but I did want to mention a corner case that wasn't brought up in the video. Heroic Intervention can be better than a counterspell in situations where your opponents also have relatively threatening board states and you want those removed while also keeping your stuff around. In those situations, HI can almost be a 2-mana Cyc Rift.
@Uefeti
@Uefeti 3 жыл бұрын
Seedborn muse, is an absolute autoinclude, in lots of control commanders. Its an autoinclude , and absurdly strong in kenrith, thracios, rashmi, kadeena, kinan, cruphix, eva, omnath (fisrt one), and Yisan of course. How dfq did it get a B-?
@andynonya1490
@andynonya1490 3 жыл бұрын
I honestly prefer using Farseek over cultivate
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 3 жыл бұрын
Same!
@brandt_gaming555
@brandt_gaming555 3 жыл бұрын
Another one of my favorite parts about Sylvan Library is that it allows me to manipulate top deck. Its great in Atla Palani!
@zackkelley2940
@zackkelley2940 2 жыл бұрын
Sylvan Library isn't used for card draw. It's used for top deck manipulation with a bonus of card draw.^^
@summeryoung1026
@summeryoung1026 3 жыл бұрын
I heard "a is the cream of the crop" and was like whaaa I've never heard of that card 🤔 lol.
@mrtaco321123
@mrtaco321123 2 жыл бұрын
I think krosan grip goes up to a B If your commander is prone to get countered because you can hold priority and close the stack
@Turkin4tor
@Turkin4tor 3 жыл бұрын
I run Acidic Slime in a Chulane blink deck as an annoying good win con. Blink it a ton and blow up all your opponents lands
@deadNdivine12
@deadNdivine12 2 жыл бұрын
Can't help, but have a Seedborn Muse in my Sisay deck.. So good.
@TheChill001
@TheChill001 2 жыл бұрын
harrow does have a certain place in like 5 color decks, not as an immediate staple, but whenever one has a duplicate land, they can just exchange that for the right colors. it works in my case since I try to avoid anything that can lock out nonbasic land like bloodmoon by having at least 2 of each basic land in my 5c decks
@kennedynguyen2251
@kennedynguyen2251 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like you guys should also recommend what cards to replace cards that you guys consider "not good" or low grade. There a lot of " what not to play" but that just leaves a lot of holes in my decks now if I adjust according to your suggestions
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of it depends on synergy. Some cards in this video fill in for the ones we'd cut
@seanhaywoodhesseldahl5295
@seanhaywoodhesseldahl5295 3 жыл бұрын
"oh look, my Gaea's craddle is a forrest... Blur blur blur". You got me 😁👍🏻 Thank you for great content fellas.
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 3 жыл бұрын
Expect more tomorrow! But bring a tissue because it'll be a tearjerker
@darthrevan8376
@darthrevan8376 2 жыл бұрын
i personally play thrashing Brontodon over Reclamation Sage it has a really nice 3/4 body and even though its one more total mana to kill something it sends itself to the graveyard so in graveyard decks like Meren it is a little easier to play multiple times.
@caputofa
@caputofa 3 жыл бұрын
What about "pest infestation" replacing "reclamation sage"? THinking about do this...Have an Aesi, not focused in creatures but in flood mana (Natural Affinity and Sylvan Awakeing) are in the deck
@RobMedellin
@RobMedellin 3 жыл бұрын
Foundation breaker is another new rec sage. More flexible but still won't replace rec sage in many cases.
@RobMedellin
@RobMedellin 3 жыл бұрын
The reason that I'm not running pest infestation is because I run worldy tutor and sometimes other things that fetch creatures and pest infestation is not fetchable that same way.
@caputofa
@caputofa 3 жыл бұрын
@@RobMedellin Hmmm since I don't have wordly tutor, still think pest is better than rec sage, not only I can target more things but algo give me some body with a few life gain (Not that it matters a lot...). But I see got your point....
@willstebbins5338
@willstebbins5338 2 жыл бұрын
I think the strongest use of Avenger of Zendikar that I have is in my Adrix and Nev tokens deck. Gets absolutely disgusting when your AoZ comes down with both Adrix and Nev and Esix Fractal Bloom out. Example: Play AoZ with 10 lands out, you get ten tokens. Have them enter as copies of AoZ off of Esix’s ability. This puts Adrix and Nev’s ability to the stack so you end up with 10*2=20 copies of Avenger. Each of those triggers on ETB, dumping 10 0/1 plants into play. Which then triggers Adrix and Nev again, dropping 20 0/1’s per copy of Avenger. If my math is right, that’s a total of 21 Avenger of Zendikars and 400 plant tokens. Which would become 1/2s after you drop a land… but in actuality they’re gonna become 22/23s since you have 21 copies of Avenger in play. And then, ideally, you drop an Ezuri’s Predation or an End-Raze Forerunners. Demands a board wipe, although it doesn’t really matter too much because this deck has plenty of ways to go exponential with triggers like that. Love my exponential deck!
@danielwydola486
@danielwydola486 2 жыл бұрын
You guys are so close!!! 50k 🤟🤟🤟🤟🤟🤟
@stormrose8839
@stormrose8839 3 жыл бұрын
I really hope you two rank staples for the the allied and enemy pairs!
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 3 жыл бұрын
We will do multicolor
@karimgrygiel5267
@karimgrygiel5267 3 жыл бұрын
I actualy play acidic slime in my Yarok deck and in this deck it is very good, and when you start to blink it it become even better and cause it can destroy lands with deadeye nabigator and peregrine drake it's a win conditions . Very cool card imo .
@freefoodftw
@freefoodftw 3 жыл бұрын
sylvan library straight up combos with Abundance to draw you 3 cards a turn. Also Joe needs glasses. The squinting makes me sad. I love all of your content keep it up!
@samelol8149
@samelol8149 3 жыл бұрын
A friend always plays part green in his decks. A lot of times it's ramp into avenger of zendikar, into craterhoof and boom
@gabrielcorazza8873
@gabrielcorazza8873 Жыл бұрын
14:06 Krosan Grip solve so many magic cards that no other cards in the format can handle: Goblin bombardments, ashnold altars, parallax wave combos, sensei divining top, humility in a control shell etc. Giving a C and compare with other removal spells sounds so naive.
@johnathanrhoades7751
@johnathanrhoades7751 Жыл бұрын
So...what ARE you playing for ramp if you're cutting rampant growth and all 3 mana ramp? Just Steve, three visits, and nature's Lore with mana dorks? I'm looking for 10 or so ramp.
@garagavia
@garagavia 2 жыл бұрын
Kodama's Reach is not a functional reprint of Cultivate, it is the other way around.
@nickknock556
@nickknock556 3 жыл бұрын
Surprising, I figured Avoid Fate, Steely Resolve, Burgeoning or Cryptolith Rite would make the list. Edit: Gaea's Blessing, Insist, Savage Summoning and Bequeathal aren't bad either. So many good Green over the years.
@melles1097
@melles1097 2 жыл бұрын
Not to put too fine a point on it, but if you guys rate Krosan Grip a C, you clearly don't play in a combo meta. That card is *essential* for escaping certain combo situations. All those "better" removal spells cannot stop someone from going off with Mind Over Matter; Krosan Grip can. And I don't even think this is a CEDH thing, I have seen playgroups die from the life getting sucked out of players sick of seeing the same nearly uninterruptible loops. Please do not tell your audience to cut their Split Second cards, lest you make them into combo food.
@sarahlove5124
@sarahlove5124 3 жыл бұрын
Soul of new phyrexia makes seedborn muse so worth
@willpatterson7125
@willpatterson7125 3 жыл бұрын
Gonna have to really disagree with the sylvan library take, drawing two extra cards every turn for two mana is always worth it, even on lower power levels.
@everythingisbizzaaaaaro3694
@everythingisbizzaaaaaro3694 3 жыл бұрын
Sylvan Library plus Underrealm Lich = Amazeballs.
@HomeCookinMTG
@HomeCookinMTG 3 жыл бұрын
@@everythingisbizzaaaaaro3694 It's really sweet w/ Tomorrow Azami's familiar, you just get to keep all the cards lol.
@say12thebear
@say12thebear 3 жыл бұрын
I know they're supposed to be "nitpicky" but they squirminess of Beezy and his arrogance on Joe's every opinion without giving alternatives just reminds me of gatekeepers. It's such an "ugh" attitude all around
@kapmasta
@kapmasta 3 жыл бұрын
id counter a harrow that has a bunch of landfall triggers pending on board but thats about it
@brandonbrooks779
@brandonbrooks779 3 жыл бұрын
Arbor elf enables turn 1/2 infinite mana in simic, I'd argue its situational an A
@edwardcowart5990
@edwardcowart5990 2 жыл бұрын
Seedborn Muse in a Yeva, Nature's Herald deck ACTUALLY feels like cheating, it's fantastic 😂
@cumgum8483
@cumgum8483 3 жыл бұрын
I like this channel and Commander Eesha
@kilian6464
@kilian6464 3 жыл бұрын
How much better would something like harmonize be for you, if it would be an instant instead of a sorcery?
@tonyrosetti2738
@tonyrosetti2738 3 жыл бұрын
I play a lot of green in a super budget meta. The games are slower and board wipes are more central. I found dorks were causing some problems even in my Izoni deck. I cut them, but perhaps I'll look at gradually putting them back. I think I was overdoing it before and our meta is getting faster as deck and card quality increases.
@dakillaklown715
@dakillaklown715 3 жыл бұрын
Do a video rating ALL ramp cards!
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 3 жыл бұрын
Daaaaaaaang that's a lot of cards
@dakillaklown715
@dakillaklown715 3 жыл бұрын
@@NitpickingNerds it is. Maybe divide it up into best ramp for (insert color).
@Wiseguy150
@Wiseguy150 2 жыл бұрын
Are you guys insane. Cultivate as a C? Only good in spell slinger decks not creature decks? Uh, no. What other options do decks have to ramp? Either mana dorks, or artifact ramp. Both of which are much easier to remove than lands. Land ramp>artifact ramp>mana dorks
@ixchel3330
@ixchel3330 2 жыл бұрын
Land ramp is better. Cultivate isn't very good cuz there's better land ramp.
@TheJimmyplant
@TheJimmyplant 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, they're straight up wrong about cultivate.
@darthrevan8376
@darthrevan8376 2 жыл бұрын
There good cards but there is so much better land ramp spells all the 2 mana ones you play over those 2
@douglassmith8069
@douglassmith8069 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure how I feel about having steve over Rampant growth or farseek. Like I get it's a creature but you have to wait a full turn to sac it and the land comes in tapped so if you play it turn 2 you have to wait untill 3 to get the land and then you only have 3 lands available if you make your land drop,where as rampant or farseek you get the land on turn 2 and untap on 3 with 4 lands if you make your drop. And I run heroic in almost every green deck because it's just really good. Sometimes I dont want to counter a board wipe I want it to go off so I'm at the advantage or even in simic I will have counter spells and heroic because I'm going to counter game winning stuff or things that put people super far ahead.
@borrowedbraincell8992
@borrowedbraincell8992 3 жыл бұрын
You can sacrifice Steve as soon as it enters the battlefield you don't have to tap it so summoning sickness doesn't matter
@douglassmith8069
@douglassmith8069 3 жыл бұрын
Ahhh okay. I forgot you didnt have to tap it
@grimreefer4110
@grimreefer4110 3 жыл бұрын
I hope you do a colorless video aswell
@jasonbarry3301
@jasonbarry3301 3 жыл бұрын
I’m too lazy to go back and check but I don’t think you guys mentioned that harrow brings lands in untapped. One of you called it a rampant growth for one when it is in fact a natures lore for 1
@AbyssArray
@AbyssArray 3 жыл бұрын
I think the only reason to play Acidic Slime is if I'm stretching for creatures in a full Ooze tribal
@EDHCoffee
@EDHCoffee 3 жыл бұрын
Congrats on the job change!!! Keep it up boys
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 3 жыл бұрын
WOOOOOOO
@melchorvipinosajr2606
@melchorvipinosajr2606 3 жыл бұрын
How about the great henge what do you think its grade?
@dustinjohnson2224
@dustinjohnson2224 2 жыл бұрын
Acid slime B or C copy it and blow up there lands , get it back graveyard and blow up something
@z4t3k21
@z4t3k21 3 жыл бұрын
Bought a ton of cards with that TCG link.. you guys better be getting paid!
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing, thank you!
@vds92
@vds92 3 жыл бұрын
What are your thoughts on Magus of the Order?
@christagarner9024
@christagarner9024 3 жыл бұрын
How can I get the hoodie 🍒 is wearing
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 3 жыл бұрын
You could break into his house while he's sleeping and steal it, but don't do that plz
@leviticussmith7578
@leviticussmith7578 3 жыл бұрын
I would like to see you guys tell us what are better alternatives rather than just say "eh I just don't like it" for example beast within had no mentions of better alternatives.
@ChtulhuFathgn
@ChtulhuFathgn 3 жыл бұрын
Thats the stuff! Good vid, and congrats for your big career move! Go FTW guys! Philippe Groppi
@FrostyTheSwoleman
@FrostyTheSwoleman Жыл бұрын
I disagree HEAVILY on the opinion of a lot of stuff in this video. It feels like you all forget that Green is a hard ramp color and by virtue of that even though certain cards my be a bit higher costed they will be coming down one average much sooner than they would for other colors. Green can CONSISTENTLY cheat things out or ramp up to things and I feel like these cards aren't rated with green card/mana theory in mind. Which is absolutely imperative when you are evaluating how good something is in green imo.
@brendoncumming-smith8080
@brendoncumming-smith8080 3 жыл бұрын
As a stompy green edh deck player, what should I replace a harmonize with for card draw ?
@aidankeyes5526
@aidankeyes5526 3 жыл бұрын
If Acidic Slime hit creatures it would be strictly better ravenous chubacabra (might have spelled that wrong)
@ColoradoCardBreaks
@ColoradoCardBreaks 3 жыл бұрын
Was cold in there that day, or just a random Sweatshirt Day for both of you?
@NitpickingNerds
@NitpickingNerds 3 жыл бұрын
It was cold that day randomly
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