Grail Casting Explained! - Demonstration, Coins and FP Needed!

[@Khadroth]

Here's the next entrant for the "Explained" series guys! I hope this helps clarify the nuances of the system and what you guys can expect going forward. Don't hesitate to ask if you're confused about anything. Let me know what you think of the new system as well! Please consider subscribing for more guides and analysis! 🔽Time Stamps for Mobile Users Below 🔽 00:00 Intro 00:53 Grail Casting Show location 01:44 Grail Casting Show Case 02:09 Actually making a Grail 02:51 Thoughts, Important details, and Concerns of Grail Casting 05:13 Grail Casting Sheet and FP Averages 06:55 FP per Grail calculations 09:57 Lotto box FP Calculations 11:35 How to reduce number of boxes needed per lotto 13:37 Additional Notes 14:55 Grails vs Appends and coins 15:58 To horde or not to horde your FP 16:58 More ways to earn coins in the future 18:07 Greater strain on servant coins 22:03 Outro

[@G.Dongio]

Nice explanation, i was planning to use most of my FP on 5th° anniversary for the 5x super success, but i think now its better hold up until coin system come for "farming" a good amount of grails

[@Sora_Raion]

We were very fortunate that the Coins system was brought forward. Now you can use your FP in NA without so much fear XD It's still best to wait for the GudaGuda event with Nobukatsu, but it doesn't feel so bad to use FP now.

[@Operation-Overlord]

welp... so did this age like milk or fine wine? I mean probably more time needed before we can really figure it out

[@mattman1684]

This system is the thing that finally makes Phantom useful.

[@HelplessFangirl]

Man this just leaves me hoping more for them to up the servant coin count. It was on the survey so hopefully they pull through~!

[@Khadroth]

Yep I'm sure a lot of people (myself included) asked for more coins to somehow be injected into the game. A lot of people do not want to have to roll high np levels (or even beyond 5 for that matter) just to finish their favorite units.

[@AusSP]

@@Khadroth Yeah. This is obvious, but NP6, or NP10+ for 4*s, is just so stupidly insanely obvious whale bait that it feels insulting. TheTenk saved up massive amounts of SQ purely for roll for Melt Lancer, got NP6 Bunny Ruler, over 10 Melts, and still won't have enough Coins to max her out without Bond Grails. It feels super grimy. I have no intention of changing my rolling habits to suit it, of course, but still grimy and exploitative. At this point, I will be very disappointed if Valentines doesn't come with some massive coin infusion - for a select favorite or two, if nothing else. Any later, and I'll assume there was no plan for this at all, and it was just whale bait.

[@Khadroth]

@@AusSP I'm pretty much thinking that they're stretching this until anni 7. If we get it sooner great, but if we don't get it by then I'll assume they didn't have a plan for rolling this out and any subsequent change was due to the community feedback in the survey they just had.

[@hungerxhunger2548]

@AusSP Nothing is wrong with the system. High spenders get perks in every game and honestly this isn't to bad.

[@Kurto.]

really well put together, thanks for the info. I agree with most everything said

[@chaosbean3211]

I think they should make an all type coin and add them to lotteries, and maybe give them out every once in a while in campaigns. Not only will this massively increase the potential amount of coins, but it would encourage people to 120 four and five star servants. FTP players might not be able to get 24 grails per year that way, but it would get them closer and let them use the coin system more

[@AusSP]

I was thinking Valentines bonus coins. Getting to 120 with many Servants might still be ludicrously unlikely, but it might be an extra grail or two if the coin amount is good. (120 per Servant would be MASSIVE, but also *very* useful.) Though if there's even more extra Coins coming from some sort of super chocolate (Valentines last year in JP had a similar mechanic), you could maybe get enough coins in a reasonable time frame. But that kinda requires Valentines be very generous, and DW actually making the system useful, or even expected, which could have downsides, but if it takes two years for most people, and not purely a whale thing, that's not any worse than Fou Paws.

[@exstee]

Thank you for this information. The highest I've farmed was 200; usually, now I'm content with being able to hit 100. So, grinding 600 is definitely well into the realm of insanity. It might be possible if I were to transfer my account to an Android emulator and look into how to go about auto farming using FGA, which I've heard about. But I’m a bit hesitant about whether or not it's even worth the risk of losing my account when transferring back and forth between an Android emulator and iOS, or the hassle of setting all that up. I do still have over 30 Grails that I'm saving, and I'm still deciding/waiting on which third Servant I will level to 120. So I guess it's really not that big of a deal to start missing out on grails when the time comes, given how stingy I've been with using them to begin with.

[@Grizzle2894]

Thanks for this vid Khad!

[@Zeon081]

Time to farm bones in Fuyuki with +75FP CE.

[@amakusashirou55]

in NA the best option is spend all FP in guda guda 6 re run because nobukatsu is a 1* servant but give 15 coin per copy

[@shirayukinobunaga9424]

Remember, the Bunny Boobie tights event is going to be needing a huge amount of farming in order to get a ton of Noob 1star rolls when guda guda 5 drops

[@nabilfikriza]

RIP to my dream of getting all the grails, lol

[@skilledwarman]

How the hell do you clear so many boxes?? This last lotto was probably my most optimized yet with 3 turn clears and +9 tickets per drop and I still barely broke 100

[@Khadroth]

That's mostly on my NA whale account. It requires playing a lot of the day, having a good 3 turn as you suggested, and refilling with quartz for most people. My record on JP was 350 boxes but that was only with a good amount of apples saved up.

[@skilledwarman]

@@Khadroth man I had 105 apples at the start of Christmas lotto and got down to maybe 20 with 112 boxes fully cleared. I can't imagine the amount of time it took to hit that many

[@SquareoftheLightOnes]

Maybe _NOW_ people will realize the FP boosting CE are actually valuable and put them on their supports and I won't have to hunt for them from the support list when we have a double FP campaign going on.

[@dylanhelvetios2300]

Nah they're still trash. This christmas fest I could farm 100'000FP in a bunch of hours. Just save your apples for next march 2024 Teslafest and you'll be able to farm for past 1 million FP.

[@ren_suzugamori1427]

Do you recommend we spend coins on append skills on certain servants before forging grails?

[@lucassantillan2598]

Thanks a lot for the vid man

[@willardboyd]

Sorry, what craft essences boost Friend Point gain? I'm in North America, haven't noticed that yet.

[@XyAnimeGuy]

I’m sitting on 10million fp rand average between 400-500 boxes so I’m ready

[@andretsch6031]

how long will it take till khad removes the christmas tree?

[@Khadroth]

It took 6 months last year.

[@TheStuffEnjoyer]

So these new Grails are Pay-2-Win friendly huh... Fascinating!@10:55 Just imagine how many rainbow appels Whales have to spend per year... The Devs better give us better game and anime content from all that p2w cash lol!

[@AoiLucine]

So a question; if we wanted to level certain lower rank servants, like say, Izo/Bedivere/Caster Cu, would keeping extra copies of them in our second archive give us more coins once this update drops?

[@tamade7108]

but dont you get coins when 6th anniversary comes around based on how many times you rolled a particular servant?

[@Khadroth]

Not for welfares or 3 stars and lower.

[@tamade7108]

@@Khadroth so even if I roll 200 more charlotte I wont get 400 charlotte coins ... .. well fuck my live

[@Khadroth]

@@tamade7108 Yeah its probably that they never bothered to keep track of the copies you rolled for 3 stars an lower. That and they likely knew this system was coming and wanted to limit coin hoards.

[@tamade7108]

@@Khadroth welp there goes that plan out the window xD no matter I will still cuntinui on my plans to roll during the gudaguda 5 for the most efficient ce bombing

[@WanshiLucidDreamer]

When will this come to FGO USA ? Does anyone have any idea??

[@Kidynamo123]

Do servant coins backdate? i.e. when that update comes to NA, will I suddenly be swimming in 1*-3* coins from all the FP rolls I've made over the years?

[@war10zx98]

No sadly

[@CadaverSwag]

F2p point hoarding begins nooooow!

[@JPG.01]

I don't think the 24 grails a year is a pure whale thing. Even 2 extra grails per year is a big thing for everybody else. This system is just a way to dump coins for 1-3* servants which we should be getting at stupid rates in the fp gacha.

[@66115983]

why is 5th anniversary and Guda 5 good for FP? Whats coming out then?

[@Khadroth]

Fifth anni is 5x super/great success rate. Guda 5 has a rediculous amount of extra CE experience in it. Both are great for making CE bombs. But both happen before Anni 6 where coins are added to the game, and contrary to popular belief you only get coins for rolled copies of a unit 4 star and higher.

[@66115983]

@@Khadroth I didnt expect a long elaborated answer. Thanks for highlighting whats happening then :)

[@leeiansd]

So pretty much, as a NA player like me, save my F.P. until 2024 New Years, correct?