Pushing Ilford Hp5 +2 Stops

[@kairadu1]

In the UK we call this "how to shoot in anything other than the 12 seconds of sunshine each year"

[@9billiondogs]

hp5 minutes of sun per year 😔

[@yetanotherbassdude]

Yeah, I've been shooting basically nothing but HP5 pushed to 1600 for months now. While I'm maybe reaching the point of grain overdose with it, I know shooting at anything below 800 basically means I can't shoot for 90% of the next six months.

[@Nayson]

It was sunny for fully 45 seconds back in 2007. Truly those were salad days.

[@gewglesux]

Must be in scotland

[@gewglesux]

was in Bristol 3 years ago.. had plenty of sunshine

[@Headin_South]

As far as I'm concerned, HP5 is a 1600 iso film with a typo on the box, and the world is now divided into two groups of people, those who saw Dune properly in the cinema, and those who waited for it to be streamed, and will regret it for the rest of their miserable lives.

[@FramesPerSecond]

And those still waiting for it to come out in their country😭

[@basic-decaf]

I saw Dune the day before it came out in theatres. I would've had to wait another day to see it otherwise. :) It also streamed in Dolby Atmos, Dolby Vision, and at 4K so it was better than theatres (with the right setup). I could pause, put subtitles on, rewind, repeat, and most importantly, not wear a mask!

[@miguelbarreto791]

Thank god that I went to see Dune in IMAX on its last day, would hate myself if I missed that chance

[@Dmngz236]

Damn I'm already regretting it by this comment alone smh 🤦

[@Tauredian]

What about those who haven't seen it at all, and will see it as a double feature when part 2 comes out, thus having the best cinematic experience of their entire lives?

[@swi10]

Besides the entertainment and photos: the audio quality of your voice/mic/post-prod. is just amazing

[@DiscoverWithDima]

Was just thinking about that. Now how do I get my voiceovers to sound that good?

[@brynseager4301]

Wanted to like this post but didn’t wanna ruin the 69 likes. Carry on sir

[@pushingfilm]

I'm okay with being called a pimp when it's by you Jason 🙂

[@linjicakonikon7666]

Get a room

[@film.fiasco]

top ten anime crossover

[@BadFlashes]

You have redeemed HP5 in my eyes .... I might think about looking in its direction again

[@natemathewson5200]

Ilford HP5 literally is the only thing that turns me on anymore

[@koltinn]

I like shooting it at 3200 and developed with DD-X

[@jmoche]

I've been rescanning a bunch of negatives that have survived since the early 1970s (yes, I am unconscionably old). I came across a page of Ektachrome 100 pushed to 1600. I remember taking the photos, and that the film was pushed to 1600, but I have no memory of how they were processed. You might want to try it.

[@FookFish]

what the fuuuuuuuuuuuuuu thats like 4 stops

[@chaseharmon9234]

Being that I shoot mostly indoor stuff of my family, pushed HP5 is my jam. That said, it pushes even better in 120. I tend to like 35mm HP5 +1, and 120 HP5 +2 or 3.

[@mastaw]

Because of the less pronounced grain in 120? Or is there a different reason too?

[@echo282]

@@mastaw the grain is less obvious so you can push it further for sure on 120. Grain gets a bit intrusive +3 stops on 35mm but some peeps like the stylised look. I have pushed to +3 stops on 120 and it still looks great.

[@wrtlprmpft2]

I strongly assume that’s because the 120 needs less magnification than a 35 mm negative.

[@kendesantis7319]

Maybe you can push more on 120 but you kind of have to because you’re losing lens speed.

[@chaseharmon9234]

@@mastaw correct. Still looks relatively "clean" pushed 3 stops with 120. Big reason to push it +3 is shit indoor light.

[@bennmurhaaya8518]

Those garden chairs at 9:01 - muack - chef's kiss!

[@therealblowers]

Thanks man. I stepped into a camera shop today for the first time in a long time, they had rolls of this sitting by the till and it caught my eye; as did this video appearing from nowhere in my feed 6 hours later... I'd forgotten how free the experience is - digital always feels to me like I need a subject and for that reason I don't shoot a lot these days. Film is a canvas in of itself. Nice images. Thanks.

[@ripemangosmdm7997]

That chrome slot canyon shot at 9:18 is beautiful.

[@adamparshall2970]

I'm a simple man. I see a new upload by @grainydays, I get six taquitos and spend two hours on the toilet.

[@yohann2768]

HP5 pushed 1 stop is what I use. Love the extra contrast, love the extra grain in B&W, love the versatility of being able to shoot in nearly any situation.

[@SteveMillerhuntingforfood]

Trev is absolutely correct, there is only one Sierra Nevada Mountains. Learned that in my first geology class in 1978.

[@FlosBlog]

Also, I recently learned that sierra is the opposite term to cordillera with the former meaning a patch of mountains and the later more of a string.

[@nw10photography]

Great video. I shoot a lot of HP5 and have tried pushing two stops and it helps with low light situations. Especially here in the UK where we have 12 seconds of sun a year. However, I prefer a one stop push, though.

[@thefatiguedpalate]

Loved dune. Thought the slow pace was essential for world building in the first film of the trilogy. Visuals and score kept me engaged throughout. Couldn't be more excited for part two!

[@WhitmeisterG]

Hell yea a new GrainyDays video!

[@bakasahara1213]

Thank you for curing my morning depression and helping my through Friday. Love you

[@lcst]

Dune was amazing! The pictures, music and the story had a great depth and quality. And HP5 pushed two stops too, with a bit more grain

[@NomadicDuck]

I thought Dune was great Jason, was definitely the Mamiya 7ii of Sci Fi Movies as of late. Can’t wait for the second one in 2023. That is if the rapidly approaching heat death of the universe doesn’t end us all, or until Fuji finds some way to discontinue that as well.

[@laurengoodwin3115]

Love it! Thank you for sharing your experience. I have been hooked on pushing HP5 for a while now and really enjoyed seeing your captures

[@tobiyaezhaynes1973]

Another great video. The 12mm shots are amazing. Very nice portrayal of pushed HP5 also.

[@misterleary]

In the old days we used to push HP5+ not only for grain and contrast mostly because we needed the extra speed at low light situations.

[@ZachA-si3qz]

Would you develop regular or push the process as well

[@RobbieMaynardCreates]

That shot at 5:06 is just lovely.

[@joboee]

Just ordered some HP5 the other day....I'm about to rock out with my stock out!

[@erwinc.9117]

Having shot exclusively HP5 at the start of my film journey (because my school had it for free), I can't help but feel that HP5 has become a little boring at box speed, and have preferred Retro400S, Bergger Pancro, and Fomapan 400 for that speed. However, HP5 at 800, oh boy what an experience, it just have so much character.

[@moebodd]

If i shot hp5 at 800 do I tell the lab push 1 stop? Or just develop normally

[@manuel926]

I would like to know as well!!!

[@BenjaminTrillington]

​@@moeboddfrom what I understand you won't see much difference if you don't tell the lab. Otherwise you're just underexposing your shots with your metering.

[@PhilippHofmann28]

"how great should the video be?" Jason: "Yes". In truth man , you´re the only one on youtube i dont skip the Squarespace Add. Dune was awesome dude. i love it and looking forward to the second part.

[@Bob-g1i]

Having fled Sacramento for Clearwater, Florida, we do get clouds here. But for street, my street rig is a Nikon fe with 1/4000 shutter speed, a voigtlander 28 mm skopar, set at f11 and in aperture priority. Basically a small point and shoot with stunning glass. If I think I might want to shoot in the f/2 area, a f100, f5 or f6 has 1/8000 shutter and power winder as well as back button focus and aperture priority with stunning matrix metering. But my reason for shooting hp5 and tmax400 at 1000 is they don't block up shadows only about 1 stop under exposed and it keeps my shutter speeds 1/250 or higher for zone focus/point and shoot mode for instant reaction street. Besides, that genre likes blocked up shadows and at 1000 iso I can darken the shadows in post with no image degradation as trying to brighten shadows could do.

[@ChrisEdgecombePhoto]

Amazing images, thanks for another cool video.

[@AWrenOutdoors]

I have not pushed HP5 (yet, I've got rolls in the fridge awaiting my amateur caress), but I have become addicted to OG Acros 100 pushed 2 stops with a deep orange filter. It's deliciously grainy and contrasty, and completely opposes what box speed stood for (grainless and boringly balanced mids). Insofar as Dune, it's also on the list.

[@J.ortegadesign]

My face is in a grainydays video for .2 seconds 😱 Momma I made itI! It was great hanging out with you again bro. See you at the next one :)

[@louontube]

Nice pics, Mr. J. These are great.

[@PhilTaylorPhotog]

Sitting here on a cold night (it’s beautifully warm in Melbourne where I’m from) in Seoul Korea during a business trip, got half way through this episode and thought “why am I sitting here instead of out on the street using that roll of Delta 400 I shoved in my Pentax P30” so out I went, dumping the iPad for some amazing Asia architecture and squiggly signage…only to find once I’d found an epic composition the winder stopped winding correctly, and it was at that moment I went “oh yeah, as much as I love my Pentax P30, it’s not a Leica M6….and that’s why I should’ve stayed in the warm hotel watching the rest of the episode”. 😢 True story.

[@BlackOrdinance]

Always an inspiration watching your vids. Thanks for the upload brotha.

[@sambrumley_productions]

Watching this just as I've gotten my first roll of Ilford HP5. Seems like a good idea to push to 1600 for all the cloudy days I get in late fall and winter, but I'm in the midst of a rain storm now and I nearly broke the light meter in one of my cameras after taking it out in hard rain

[@punkrachmaninoff]

If you really want to have some fun, develop your own HP5 in the Semi-Stand method... DDX @ 1:9 45 minutes 5 agitations during 1st minute... 5 agitations at halfway mark... 1 more agitation just for fun at the end... THE BEST HP5 CAN LOOK. (hundreds of hours of research)

[@CiderGuy]

Agreed. Though DD-X @ 1:4 for 13:30 for 1600 also works just great and very low grain. I really believe DD-X is one of the truly great film developers out there even if it is expensive compared to Rodinal, HC-110 etc. 👍

[@BorgiaBorgiaBorgia]

What iso though?

[@camerafusion]

Best Film Channel on KZbin!

[@briansavage932]

I always push hp5 to 800 or 1600 the develop with DDX. The results are *chef's kiss*.

[@peterfarr9591]

You kind of can save underexposed images with stand development though. I've gotten very consistent results without any issues by doing semi stand. I do constant agitation the first minute, then 15 seconds once every 15 minutes, end at all hour. Usually much sharper including sharper grain

[@neraidozouzouno5919]

Exactly what I was looking for. Thank you!

[@mylesinthesky]

Great stuff. I've only ever pushed Ilford HP5 +1 stop and I loved the results. You may have inspired my next shoot!

[@ethanbunch3274]

Definitely adds another tool to my arsenal. I went and shot the Naval Aviation museum in pensacola and having only one 1.2 lens and maximum 800 speed film was severely limiting but I did get some cool-ass photos from it. Now starting my own development I can now push film. Great video as always

[@HighRollersLounge]

I love this channel ❤

[@gavenevans]

I can’t wait to make this stock my whole personality. My family thanks you 🙏

[@Paul_C83]

Nice collection of pics. Nice video too

[@andyvan5692]

@ 4:12 one other reason to push/pull is to adjust the contrast, aka as the Dynamic range of the scene is too close or far away, that is, the highlights and shadows, from the middle grey; same with the 'zone_system', you are doing this to give a FLAT scene some depth and 3D pop, as an affect for your vision of the scene.

[@hoodedmexican]

Jesus Christ the inside the hotel room shots were insane i actually gasped at work

[@PREVEDREDCAT]

bears&cameras event... sounds cool! getting drunk and geeking over film cameras at the same time 😛

[@troyherr9158]

if you ever are struggling with a video idea, I would love to see one on the process of your creative journey: ie where you started and where you are now. Love your videos, I hope ypu are stoked on your current lifw.

[@thorr28]

your shots are pure poetry

[@elsueniero5922]

+3 stops is also great, only that development takes more time. You can even push it more with still development, something worth trying

[@ahson6249]

loved Dune, love your work as well, but I especially love your commentary style.

[@ignacioceroniservello4270]

thank you man, i was missing you already

[@tokyoandreana1719]

when i used to shoot hp5 i wold use the box speed but i never worked with it digitally only really worked with it in the darkroom but i found that if the correct contrast filters and exposure time were used with the enlarger i got somewhat similar results tho it did vary sometimes

[@stratocactus]

Considering everything with KODAK marked on it costs 50% more in Europe, I'll stick with HP5+ (6,80€) rather than TMax400 (11,80€).

[@brandonlopez3902]

This is my fifth time watching this video. It's just that incredible. I love it so much. Shout to grainydays for this visual sex of a video.

[@Chris-nj2jz]

Haha "Apocalypse now, hell hole..." couldn't have come up with a better description!

[@user-ej8uh3lb9o]

I leave here smiling every time

[@JenniferM13]

I think 800 is the sweet spot for HP5, I was never all that impressed with it at box speed and always gravitated to Tri-X, but shooting HP5 @ 800 gives it the contrast and punch I feel it lacks at box speed.

[@ttracemusic]

Are you pushing it 1 when developing?

[@JenniferM13]

@@ttracemusic I am.

[@ttracemusic]

@@JenniferM13 Very cool. Will try it. Thx.

[@k4kafka]

“Punch” meaning higher contrast, to you ?

[@AeromaticXD]

I shoot a lot of HP5 and Kentmere 400 to 1600… it’s amazing on 35mm, and I LOVE the grain!

[@mylessharpe6359]

More frequent videos please Jason 🙏😉

[@T-Prime848]

My Favorite Is To Push The Tri-X 400 Into 1600 … It’s A Brutal Process And I Love It …

[@sanjayatony]

I like the message from sponsor in the last part :D

[@gfbtfbtfilyfxbtyewqqef]

God your black and white stuff is amazing

[@_fatherant]

I have no clue what you’re talking about but I keep coming back.

[@malcyates]

Hey Jason. Try it at 1600 with a red filter : and a polar (tricky with any non slr, but.) It would so magic with the blue LA skies.

[@simseeye6725]

HP5 @3200 is perfectly fine. I've even developped it in Rodinal 1+50, with one gentle inversion every minute for 52 minutes, with great results. The grain is, oddly enough, not that distracting. The shadows are mostly lost but I'm fine with that. You should try it someday ;)

[@Bartosz10000]

What a good habit to read the comments :D I'm thinking to shoot this film at my friend's concert and if I decide to do it, it will be my first time ever using this film and first concert to shoot and with Rodinal which I use often or only but with Fomapan or Ilford Pan 400. I don't know if those film are good to push for 3200 also with Rodinal. You got any advice?

[@simseeye6725]

@@Bartosz10000 Unfortunately, I have no experience with pushing Foma 400 or Ilford Pan 400, so I cannot answer you for sure. In theory, I don't see why it wouldn't work, but HP5 is known for being super tolerant to push process ; I've never particularly read that about the other 2 films. As for pushing in Rodinal, the Massive Dev Chart has a similar "recipe" than the one I used for Foma 400 pushed to 3200 in Rodinal 1+50, 52 minutes, but no recipe for Pan 400 at 3200 and 1+50 (only 1+25, which will probably give you even more contrasty negs - I haven't tried it). Or you can do a stand dev in 1+100. Rodinal is perfect for that :) Hope it helps ! Enjoy the concert :)

[@annaf1870]

Great video and there are some photos I really love in there. It'd be interesting if you could develop on how the contrast from pushing is different from adding contrast digitally? I'm waiting for my first pushed b&w film to get developed at the moment 🙂

[@tlm2096]

I’m happy to see the legendary Budweiser camera making another appearance

[@shutterlag192]

I love the look of hp5 at 1600! And if you’re going indoors and outdoors on the same roll it’s great unless you want bokeh of course

[@andyvan5692]

if you can't make up your mind about HP-5+, try going up in format, aka to 4x5" sheets, and also selenium toning, as Rachel Brewster-wright did, in an Ilford video, on toning, a lady, with tattoos, but wow, a nice image (and darkroom paper too!).

[@joepphoto]

Great shots Jason!

[@jvladcliff4083]

I like to push my B+W 2 stops so I can have faster shutter speeds, and when I am in bright light I just put a 2 stop ND on to get my aperture opened up to f 5.6 - 8 .

[@augustine.c8204]

loved Dune, watched it twice in theatres, soooo enjoyable

[@jpiersma]

Dune was magical!

[@anthonyritchie696]

Another great Video Jason

[@ricjohns545]

Thanks for introducing me to "Beer and Cameras".

[@nobodyneedsthis]

HP5 is hit or miss with me, pushed or not. Haven't shot it in a while, might be time for a revisit. Best description of Dune I've seen is that it's Star Wars for people who like Tool.

[@parkerdavis1324]

Jason has changed film culture as we know it. Goodbye vintage cars, hello planes.

[@Gneisenau2]

If you really like HP5 pushed grain and TMX 400. I'd suggest trying Delta 400, normally it feels kind like the in-between film. Maybe push 1 stop or so, add Rodinal developer for extra spicy grain if you are into those grainy look.

[@FerrumMaster]

Use Ilford Delta 3200@1600 and embrace it as next best thing since sliced bread.

[@Spyzilla1850]

Tri-X 400 is another stock that looks absolutely fantastic pushed 2 stops

[@SmearOnStandby]

Honestly, I really enjoyed Dune (2021)! Seeing it in IMAX was an absolute delight. Just the slightest bit bummed that we gotta wait 2 years for the sequel but it’s exciting nonetheless! :) Also, the video was cool too, Jason! :D

[@mikejankowski6321]

There’s a sequel? What do you do for an encore after taking over the known universe?

[@yetanotherbassdude]

*Mongolian throat singing intensifies*

[@FramesPerSecond]

@@mikejankowski6321 finish the rest of the book lol

[@linusfotograf]

Very tasty shots of the Getty

[@olympus2OM]

Nice lines and shots.

[@typegeist]

This is the best review of Dune I've ever seen.

[@ReimannPembroke]

Those pics at the Getty are super dope!

[@kyleglasgow007]

OK I will try to keep this short but concise. I have shot HP5+ at pretty much every single ASA that makes sense; (64, 100, 200, box speed, 800, 1600 and 3200). In all honesty, it’s one of the least impressive films that I have shot. The contrast doesn’t really appeal to me all that much and I much prefer the grain structure in other films. TriX looks nice it I want something to have real grain or I don’t want to care about exposure. TMax is when I want portraits to look very nice or expose things perfectly and have an incredibly sharp image all the way across. PanF is typically for when I want to stretch the legs of someone’s or body that I have. But at the end of the day as cringe as this is, I prefer XP2 & BW400CN to all of those. Not just because the cheap cost of developing but I genuinely enjoy the green structure and how contrast is rendered in both of those films. Something about C41 black and white just looks so much better to me and every time I shoot it I’m always happy with the results. Maybe I’m just cringe but I think HP five is one of the most overrated films of all time. I have yet to enjoy results that I get with it and I would always rather shoot something else.

[@nuwanda923]

Dune is a Masterpiece!! And the books even more

[@charleyfolkes]

Good experiment ! No pain no grain !

[@PrebleStreetRecords]

Watching this masterpiece while pushing TriX 400 to 6400 in HC-110.

[@ofoosy]

Pushing HP5+ is my mainstay for low light photography.

[@carlitodcreative]

I really enjoy your videos

[@razijukes9435]

That Budweiser camera is probably one of the most interesting things I have ever seen lmao

[@fastr1red]

Funny this, I did exactly the same thing. Took the film to my usual lab and they laughed! 1600?,,,you mean 2 full stops??? Yes 2 stops, that's what I've written on the label. They laughed, I laughed, siri laughed, but I got the last laugh, the images are wonderful.

[@mikegindling4236]

I have not, but now I will try it.

[@nic343]

you crack me the f up and educate me at the same time❤️

[@edshotsdotcodotuk]

There's a reason they put the boxes labelled 800 and 1600 on the canister. Ilford know what it's all about!!! IMHO it's the best high speed film. HP5 at 1600 has so much more detail than the 3200 speed films.

[@samwestenskow]

Dune was the only thing on my mind for about a week. My only problem with it was that it wasn't shot on 35mm because the grain would have looked really nice in the sand.

[@kool_thing]

3:07 An old car is a perfect trap for film photographers. Like moths to a flame.