Gran Turismo 7 | PS5 Pro Enhanced & VR Gameplay (4K RAYTRACING)

[@mnormansell1984]

Can we all spare a moment of silence for the gt40 that absolutely destroyed itself at the end corner (vr race) 😅🤣😅🤣

[@Joey.RodzVR]

LOL

[@bermudalife]

I just tested turning on ps5 pro re projection on the psvr2 ..I turned it on and off. The game still has re projection when you turn it off but it’s so much smoother with it on . I think alot of KZbinrs are confused by this option. I believe when you turn it on it’s enhanced for the ps5 pro and in my opinion is so much better than turning it off which in turn gives you the old version of re projection from the original ps5 . I find it way smoother with it on . There’s no ghosting on the cars anymore and they look so much better!

[@mattburkey]

The place I've noticed it working well is looking sideways and extremely sharp corners (such as those on Eiger Nordwand) especially in something with little to no cockpit, like a go-kart. You can see some artefacting on SS Route X just above the side barriers. As you speed up or slow down the amount of positional reprojection will change. Basically you can l see little blocks of pixels being displaced incorrectly between things that are moving quickly (the barrier in the foreground) and things moving slower (the distant background). Aside from that, I generally find having PR turned on to be a much smoother and clearer experience. I tried to record footage for a side by side comparison but the footage captured on the console looks the same either way so the PR feature must be something done to inject in-between frames that the screen recorder doesn't capture, or its some kind of post process effect that is only visible in the visor.

[@Merkste_was]

Do you have the Same Problem with the hud when you Turn VR reprojection Mode on? Sometimes i cant even See my tirewear and everything with Text in the Screen flickers. Like artifacts???

[@mattburkey]

@ I’ve spent a bit more time on it this evening and I see what you mean. I’d got my HUD set to the bare minimum but when I turned all the additional information on there was lots of visual artefacts to the overlays. It appears it’s applying positional reprojection to the entire image and not treating the HUD as a separate element. I’m noticing most artefacts on scenery were you have fast and slow moving elements overlapping (foreground stuff vs stuff on the horizon). I think it’s better if you drive VR with a minimal or no HUD but if you need all the bells and whistles visible then maybe turn PR off.

[@Jordy_loco]

Honestly looks amazing now

[@jackkennedy1787]

Damn this the earliest I've ever been for an upload. Idk what to do with myself

[@naffantait]

Lmao

[@carstenschroder7054]

😂😂😂

[@Ducko7265]

the puddles do look way better then before. and when you pause it the lighting and details look pretty good.

[@LEONDENNETT1]

This vid is kinda pointless because we’re watching a rendered down version for KZbin. You’ll only have the benefits in person and with the correct screen/monitors

[@Ducko7265]

@@LEONDENNETT1 ik actually playing the game is way different, all these people on smart phones saying theres no differences is hilarious

[@monolith2001]

Looks great and if I did not have a PS5, I'd likely spend a bit more to get the Pro but not nearly enough here to buy with a functioning PS5. I love driving in VR but can't think of a time where I said "This could look so much better" especially when racing.

[@davidshekhter5284]

Can anyone articulate how the VR is better with the pro? I've heard it's like a 10% improvement in the graphics but doesn't do anything to improve the blurriness around the edges. I want to see if it's worth upgrading to a PS5 pro?

[@naffantait]

@@davidshekhter5284 much better it's probably what impressed me the most, overall a much smoother experience, a lot less blurring, ghosting is gone & the clarity is much improved I'd say the improvements to VR on the pro is better than the improvements to the PS5 PRO Enhanced version without a VR

[@NO_rush-p1r]

Does the rear spoiler win still appearing and disappearing?????

[@GhastlyB]

SOLD! ​@@naffantait

[@evgenyyurichev]

as you can see, draw distance also much much better, also as you can see - pixels around your eyes - did you see them?)

[@mattburkey]

@@evgenyyurichev They still haven't improved the draw distance of the drivers in convertibles and go-karts though, ha ha ha

[@v.e.s2884]

Dam I just play it today the cars sound is more amazing feels more real

[@Jaimz.]

Got to finally christen my 8k tv after 4 years 😂

[@ToWhom]

Is the VR spectator mode a new thing or have I just not known about it before?

[@robertwigley2563]

Wounder how the rain fx look on the windows and track because they were non existent before. Can it compare to pure with the pro graphics card update?

[@yarisTSk]

sweet content, thx

[@GTNate]

Does it look better in actual gameplay or is it just better in a replay?

[@adamboone3565]

⁠when I’m in sport mode my HUD has like two images that separate (my lap time above and my extended track radar map)…anyone else have this

[@Seventeen_Seconds]

I only bought a PS5 three months ago to uograde from my original base model PS4. Im more than happy with how qell GT7 runs on the PS5. I dont use the ray tracing replays as the frame drop is embarrassing and it honestly doesnt look that much better unless its raining. Just done the uograde tnis morning looking forward to trying the escort cosworth later :)

[@milhad.salihi]

if you have a capable TV with HDMI 2.1 support, turn Prioritize Raytracing on, enable 120Hz output and enable VRR, it looks much better and keeps a higher frame rate

[@Seventeen_Seconds]

@milhad.salihi I've got two HDMi ports on my TV one does say something next to it didn't realise it made a difference. It's a month old Samsung QLED 4K

[@FullSweatTryhard]

Too be honest, unless you are rocking a top of the line gaming TV… you’re not going to notice a difference.

[@milhad.salihi]

I have a LG C3 and the difference is very noticable with these settings

[@FullSweatTryhard]

@@milhad.salihi What settings are you using? I’m using prioritize resolution and RT with PSSR. Game looks a little bit better for me. What I expected. On a High end gaming TV too obviously.

[@shadeofdeepgreen24]

i dont know if id pay 1000$ for puddles to look a bit better...

[@Kr-Eazy]

does Ray tracing still have the 30 fps cap?

[@blackmamba-123]

Yes

[@Kr-Eazy]

@blackmamba-123 so where is the improvement?

[@FurBurger151]

​@@blackmamba-123What no it doesn't it's 60 fps on the Pro.

[@AlphaBandit73]

Is VR mich better than without the Pro Patch??

[@mattburkey]

With Positional Reprojection on, I find cornering and looking sideways much more comfortable, less double imaging and a sharper focus on details. GT7's flat mode raytracing during races, VR mode PR option and FF7 Rebirth's Versatility mode have been the biggest and clearest improvements to games I've seen since upgrading to the Pro.

[@RiCH_926]

What a lot of people don't realize this is the first time PSSR has been used it's new so just think with time moving forward how much better it'll be how much better it'll get how much better the system will learn and fix problem areas in the game I fired my system up early to play just to see a little bit of the difference I was still have asleep but I needed to see it definitely better way better people just have to realize you have to have the TV that compliments the system

[@scottydog2871]

Have to wait until GT8 to see if it was worth the money.

[@therefixframeuproduction1093]

The update?

[@fabio78]

yes

[@PedroNavarro-xt5vw]

How much better is the VR?

[@naffantait]

100% better, most impressive part about the enhancements, hopefully we see this through many other VR games

[@PedroNavarro-xt5vw]

Thanks, I guess I need to upgrade then. What is better now? Framerate, resolution or both?

[@SKONY74]

There is a new toggle to turn off reprojection in vr mode, has anyone tried it yet...I'm at work😢😢

[@bermudalife]

I just tested turning on ps5 pro re projection on the psvr2 ..I turned it on and off. The game game still has re projection when you turn it off but it’s so much smoother with it on . I think alot of KZbinrs are confused by this option. I believe when you turn it on it’s enhanced for the ps5 pro and in my opinion is so much better than turning it off which in turn gives you the old version of re projection from the original ps5 . I find it way smoother with it on . There’s no ghosting on the cars anymore and they look so much better!

[@adamboone3565]

@@naffantaitwhen I’m in sport mode my HUD has like two images that separate (my lap time above and my extended track radar map)…anyone else have this

[@davidcupra4913]

Are u not gonna tell us your thoughts on it?

[@naffantait]

Given the update only came today I'll need more time with it before I give my final thoughts

[@davidcupra4913]

@ thanks look forward to it. I’m about to buy the pro just want to make sure this warrants it as I only use vr.

[@naffantait]

@@davidcupra4913 VR is probably the most impressive part about the Pro update

[@RiCH_926]

This is dope but I'm curious does VR make you sick at any point cuz I wouldn't mind buying the PS VR 2

[@mattburkey]

It can do if you dive straight in at the deep end with a fast paced game with lots of movement. I generally advise people to start slow and work up to the more action packed stuff. By all means check it out, but you need to teach your brain to adapt. In the real world, we get information from what we see and hear, but also our balance from our inner ear and we can feel the effects of inertia on our bodies as we move and/or travel in a vehicle. In VR, you're not really moving. Because what you see and hear doesn't tally with what your body is feeling, it gets confused and your body thinks it's been poisoned. It's response is to feel sick so you can remove the poison. Some people are more susceptible to VR sickness than others. I would recommend some room scale or stationary experiences like Beat Saber, Moss and Max Mustard so your brain gets used to 'being somewhere else'. When people first experience VR and get stuck into a game, taking the headset off and being back in your room can be an oddly surreal feeling. In terms of GT7 and VR, a steering wheel set up is a much more natural and comfortable experience than playing with a joypad. Start with slow cars (I know, boring!) and flatter circuits. Then work up to faster cars and more pronounced terrain. Maybe leave the rally tracks until last, ha ha. Saying that, being able to turn into a powerslide and look out the side window naturally is far more comfortable than trying to flick your view with the thumbstick or relying on a chase camera. You don't realise just how steep some circuits (or that banking at Daytona) really are until you experience it in VR. I found tight corners and looking sideways in VR was a bit uncomfortable for me and could make me feel unwell on certain circuits on the base PS5 (even with my well trained VR legs), however PS5 Pro and the new Positional Reprojection option have made those issues much more pleasant, I'm really pleased! Anyway, aside from all that, play VR in smaller sessions, take breaks, put a fan on in the room and most importantly, if you start to feel sick, STOP IMMEDIATELY and take a break from it. Thinking you can fight through it will usually just make it worse. Take a break, have some food and drink and play a bit more later. GT7 represents hybrid VR gaming at its best. Playing a good race on the flat screen and suddenly want to play it in VR? Pause the game and put the headset on and unpause. Boom. You're in VR. Alternatively, if you're midway through a VR race and you feet a bit unwell, just take the headset off and you can seamlessly continue on the TV. There is no flat/VR mode as such, it's always both all the time. Putting the headset on or not dictates how the game renders, it's really that seamless and basically God-tier VR. The VR showrooms are excellent. Only the local 2-4 player mode doesn't support VR for obvious reasons. Ultimately, I'd recommend asking around friends, relatives and co-workers to see if you know anyone with a VR headset (whether it's PSVR/PSVR2/Quest, etc.) and just try some stuff out so you can see what VR is for yourself. Looking at videos on KZbin can never quite prepare you for what VR FEELS like. You think 'oh yeah, it's just first person' but what it doesn't convey is that sense of presence. You are THERE. Wherever you look, up down, side to side, over, under... you're somewhere else. It's incredible, but it takes a bit of brain re-training for some experiences. Sorry for the essay, I can appreciate what a big investment the headsets are and this I feel is the best advice I can give having playing VR since PSVR launched in 2016.

[@RiCH_926]

@mattburkey no that's dope thank you for helping me out giving me the information I was wondering cuz right now some games make me sick on just playing on my TV which I never understand why that happened but back in the day when they first came out with like the phone style VR where you stick your phone in the headset I tried it at Best buy I think I was on it for 15 minutes and when I got off it I was sick for the rest of the day it was crazy headaches felt so nasty it was just horrible it was like my brain couldn't read calibrate and go back to normal and that's what scares me but I think that's a different type of VR I really want to get the PS VR2 but it's a lot of money for me to find out I can't handle it You know what I mean You know it would be sick it's if they came up with some kind of a hologram game I think that would be pretty cool or if you could turn your room into VR without putting goggles on or if it was something like ready player One that would be

[@mattburkey]

@ a lot of phone type VR was really just 360 videos. Like you could look anywhere, sure, but you couldn’t move closer to or away from objects. There was no sense of presence. With true VR, there are multiple outward facing cameras (at least on PSVR2 and Quest) which anchor the headset in physical space meaning you can move around as you would in the real world a bit. A friend of mine got back motion sickness from his TV. He added backlights to his TV to illuminate the wall behind it, he said being able to see a distinct frame at the edge of the TV helped him stop feeling sick. Trying things out before you buy them is good, but at the same time you never really get enough time to explore everything or get to take everything in or get used to it. One of my favourite VR games is Beat Saber, you just stand (or dance) on the spot. I can play for hours and work up a sweat but not feel sick. GT7, I’m mostly always alright but sometimes it can get me 🤢 I dick around with my Quest 3 on VR mods on PC for GTA V and Horizon Zero Dawn and stuff which look amazing, but are nauseating as hell very quickly because the gameplay and mechanics aren’t suited to VR, also they use a rendering hack to make the VR work which is uncomfortable, but I’ve built up a tolerance over time.

[@74Spyderman]

@@RiCH_926Sony announced an upcoming Black Friday sale for PSVR2 in December I think. Probably be around $350. Wait till then and return it if it bothers you. Unfortunately you just don’t know until you try.

[@Thugnthug]

If you can do a comparison video it will be good

[@Zocker2022]

Is there an improvement in VR without the Pro with normal PS5?

[@naffantait]

From the patch notes alone I'd assume not unfortunately

[@Zocker2022]

@@naffantait Thx, I Try later and see if it is better on normal PS5... But when you say the different with the Pro is so big and nice now in VR, i am thinking to buy a Pro.

[@TheTechnobear]

@@naffantait I could not see any improvement on a standard ps5, so think its pro only.

[@nosceteipsum7757]

Yep yep. 4k, raytracing ,60fps and still no dirt on the windscreen. 😂

[@WorldHayes-VR]

What it do for VR

[@ElephantTrap]

Less ghosting, smoother, less blurry in distance when you turn the new reprojection option on. Much better

[@mnormansell1984]

Looks nice the update but havi g to run at 60 hz to get RT in the game and im getting quite abit of frame drops, not sure of it was specific to the race i did but was too much not to notice it, think its more stable with 120hz enabled but im not sure if the RT is on when this is enabled

[@Johnmarston1.]

I can't fricking play it because I have crap internet and the update was 32 gb for what? I see no difference whatsoever only that the cars look more crisp. disappointed 😞

[@naffantait]

Difference is night and day in game, smoother framerate, much more crisp, car models look seriously impressive, reflections and raytracing are pretty solid also

[@Ducko7265]

The puddles have way better reflections, and the lighting has a bit more mood to it. otherwise not the most difference I see either.

[@UniversalStand]

Its definitely better at 120.

[@naffantait]

@@UniversalStand I remember the original implementation of 120 being awful, thankfully it's much better now

[@urbanshadow777]

​@naffantait that's good news. Got an LG C4, put on 120 and then turned it straight back off. The textures and aliasing was awful.

[@scottydog2871]

On replays it still stutters. I got VRR TV and on performance it still stutters. Put it on 120hz it doesn't but overall graphics take a hit. Slight improvements but nothing to justify the cost of the thing.