Gran Turismo 7 vs iRacing - Arcade vs True Simulator?

[@SuellioAlmeida]

Subscribe! Hope you guys enjoyed the format. Like the video if you find value in my work and I'll keep doing my best!

[@greasysamsquanch]

Great comparison! Lifetime Gran Turismo player. One day I'll get a good pc lol. Keep up the good work. Are you Canadian?

[@RodrigoAbib]

What an amazing analysis! Thanks for sharing this content. I hope you can create some content for iRacing newcomers like myself, haha. I'd definitely like to learn more about the proper FFB adjustments for the Logitech G29 in iRacing, so it feels as realistic as possible. Of course, within the limits of what's achievable with an entry-level wheel like this.

[@tyskeren7165]

A little note mate put the gt settings on quality mode you still get 120hz and you dont lose image quality

[@mikenope5294]

Quality content

[@Dhanakorn_42]

Iracing vs ACC next please

[@PacCoastInstituteofCreativity]

seeing the response in discord where people where shaming you for playing this was interesting, if only they trusted your decisions and weren't so touchy about what choices you make. Keep up the good work and keep making great content.

[@MrRaphaelLippi]

Elitism is just miserable.

[@joshriver75]

​@@MrRaphaelLippi Yep..people love looking down their noses at anyone they can.

[@MrRaphaelLippi]

@@joshriver75 I used to play gran turismo 5. I remember the elitists of Iracing and rFactor , always downplaying other games. Now I play Iracing and I just don't see the need of it.

[@TallTaleGael]

Exactly. Games are for fun. I'm sorry but GT7 or F1 23 are so fun with the career modes and challenges and stuff. Are they realistic? No but they're FUN that's the point. IRacing is my main but sometimes I want to kick Max Verstappens ass (and I can't do that in an IRacing lobby because he's actually there lol) so I okay F1 23. It's all good. ​@@MrRaphaelLippi

[@vyasrushi5177]

This is the most brilliant comparison I have seen of GT7 with any other more serious Simulators....Most people would just concentrate on which game is doing things more realistically and then give the final verdict but you actually explained what exactly both games are doing differently and why both are still great for what they are trying to offer

[@mrmidnight32]

Honestly a better sim is ACC, than Iracing. Iracing is only successful due to the multiple classes. ACC is a way better sim.

[@SuellioAlmeida]

@@mrmidnight32 I think iRacing is better than ACC when it comes to transitioning to real life to drive most cars. ACC is a great sim if you're going to drive a GT3 car in real life with top-tech assists like TC and ABS, but if you're driving a car with no abs or shitty abs, iRacing will prepare you much better.

[@RacingAnt]

​@@mrmidnight32ACC does GT3 racing only, so it better do a better job of that than iRacing does. That doesn't make it a better sim. It makes it better for GT3 racing. That's not the same thing. Want to race GT3 cars against AI? Pick ACC. Want to race in 10s (more likely 100s) of different classes, 24x7, against real people, in graded, clean (well, as clean as open on-line racing gets) races, then iRacing is the only choice. The choice is what makes sim racing amazing. People determined to say one is better than all the others is what makes it toxic.

[@gameurai5701]

@@RacingAnt Those races you mentioned cost extra money per car and track, not to mention a monthly fee. iRacing is objectively not worth it if you use a grading system. The collision model is ridiculous and AMS2 tier, not to mention that the sound is mediocre in all cars all around, and it all gets topped down by really, really, really, really shitty graphics that are PS3 era quality. This is why nobody likes iRacing except pro drivers like Verstappen or Norris, for whom 10k for all content may seem like nothing are using it for fun anyway. The only realistic car they have is the mercedes 13 and 12 because of the co-work with merc engineers. Everything else is pretty much amateur level like AC or AMS2 with mediocre FFB, physics and handling. For 10€ a month, I expect much more quality across the board, good collision phyiscs and good graphics. iRacing has none of those. It's just a really expensive version of rfactor2 or AMS2, but it actually looks far worse than AMS2 so it's not even above the lower tier of sims lol. This game has nothing else to offer but W13 and that's why nobody except hardcore sim-racers care about it. You can't make a good game with just one good car. For ACC, you get a premium experience with most cars and tracks, good collision phyics and by sim racing standards, good graphics (not even close to Rennsport or GT7 but still far above iRacing) hence why most people choose the cheaper, yet more premium option over the more expensive, but worse looking, playing, feeling, looking game. iRacing will become obsolete once Rennsport and AC2 become a thing, it's just not a viable business model.

[@RacingAnt]

@@gameurai5701 ok, race formula ford in ACC. Case closed. I'm not bothered about which is best, nor debating it with you. The 10,000 people that log onto iRacing every day obviously think it's worth paying the money. I've said ACC is better for GT3 - but it's way worse for any open wheel car. Accept that others want different things from their sims, and get over yourself.

[@theojk]

Thanks for the analysis. Very impressive stuff. As a GT7 offline campaign mode player on PSVR2, I find it very curious that pro sim players believe GT7 is less forgiving than in iracing and real life. You’d think it would be the opposite, as gt7 is commonly badged as being “arcadey” as opposed to the more puritan like simulators such as iracing and AC.

[@neonix01]

The quick in-and-out of laps on GT7 makes it the winner for me. I've played tons of ACC and other sims on PC, and it just takes way too long to get something good going online. Too much tweaking, organizing, and stuff like that. GT7 is plug-n-play and it takes seconds to get into a good race.

[@labpong7562]

Dont you play AMS2 or AC on a PC?

[@neonix01]

@@labpong7562 I work on a Windows/Linux PC 8-9 hours a day, and I work with IT technology. The absolute last thing I want to do after work is sit down in front of a horrible Windows PC again.

[@Stroker-Z28]

Agreed, if you are lazy, gt7 is your game

[@zorgxzorgx6543]

No , the best ,Rfactor 2 .

[@olandscape]

The thing between these two, in my opinion, is that iRacing offers top notch physics, while not dominating in terms of content or graphics. And what GT offers, is a good enough physics model, while having a large amount and variety of cars, from commuters, crazy concept cars, GT4,3,2,1 cars and so on. As well as it's beautiful graphics and a comprehensive weather system, and other features (photo mode, livery editor, etc). This is why I am sticking to GT, not to mention it's a one-time purchase for a title. Then again, I'm just a casual driver (B driver rating in GT), and iRacing wouldn't be very suitable for me. No hate on iRacing though, it's equally good on some aspects ! 😅

[@icebrew]

And assetto corsa has the best physics and graphics, but not having the career aspect of iracing, or the accessibility/ease of use that GT offers.

[@olandscape]

Wouldn't necessarily say the best, but yea, i use it mainly for personal car builds since it's really easy to customize and edit cars.

[@d14_x80]

@@icebrewooof idk about that. I have both gt7 and ac and acc and neither of them compare to gt7 imo. No lifelong fanboy either, came from forza. To me, AC is so bad I won’t even turn it back on

[@icebrew]

@@d14_x80ac with mods is by far the most realistic (and best looking) sim for driving street cars, and with mods you can drive literally any car you want acc is just gt3, simulator kinda a one trick pony if you ask me. I have iracing is very realistic in the actual online racing aspect, Penalties, rating system, choice of competitive racing series etc. I haven't played gt7, but with it being a simcade, i know it wont compete with the realism of ac or the competitiveness of iracing, and its not trying too. The appeal I gt7 is completely different than the other two. Sidenote, are you using a wheel, and did you play modded ac?

[@d14_x80]

@@icebrewno, just as you haven’t played gt7 I have not played modded ac so I can not form an opinion on it. I have a full rig that I game on (dd pro/vr2/skakers/etc)

[@Cal3000]

One thing to note, the higher rank you are in GT, the less ghosting there is. So if you were in B or A DR and S SR, there will be no ghosting unless a penalty is applied. I'm also interested in the braking techniques because it seems GT7 and ACC match while iRacing takes a completely different approach.

[@michaelavrie]

wait, is this real? is this why I'm getting so many more incidents with other drivers mistakes now that I'm up in the ranks?

[@KayJblue]

I’m A+ and I don’t think there is any ghosting at all. At least I haven’t seen it.

[@Some1David]

how can you ghost yourself in GT7 while online race? 🤔

[@michaelpage5499]

Thanks for taking the time to make this comparison video👍🏼 Alway learning 😎

[@MrFTmedia]

GT7 telemetry is available through UDP ports, software and mobile apps are also available. Perhaps you could use this to your advantage going forward.

[@jeffbarnard348]

As a bike racer, I don't need perfect car physics, I need immersion and close racing to keep me sharp. GT7 VR excels at this, it feels so real. Just did a 45min 'ring race at night in wet conditions I was literally sweating. Unbelievable.

[@markbooth]

A very good write up and totally agree about the big change in trail breaking grip feel through the Logitech G Pro Wheel. I’ve only been driving a month since VR2 launched but turn in trail breaking grip felt too strong and before 1.31 but I hit apexes more regularly now. I’m loving GT7 and only a B SR driver but the level of respect is high even at this grade I feel.

[@ExOjInN]

Sick video! Grew up with gran tourismo n got into race games because of it, sadly tho i had no idea of the gaming world before recent years, in my 30's now n its prob too late for me to get heavy into sim racing, plus wouldnt even know where to begin, no pc doesnt help, keep living the dream!

[@SuellioAlmeida]

Late??? Never late bro. There's a whole adventure out there waiting, go all in!

[@mtzmueller]

I have tried almost every simulator out there, and my favorite racing game nowadays is GT7. The level of detail in the game and the PSVR2 give it an incredible immersion. A lot of people get hung up on what’s the best simulator, many say iracing is the best. Here is my problem, I’m a regular guy that doesn’t have access to racing cars, I just drive normal cars and I occasionally go to track days. For that reason GT7 is a better simulator for me as it has normal street cars, which you can’t find in iracing. You can certainly find real life physics in GT7, and things that I have learned in the game I have been able to apply IRL. If your goal is to become a race car driver and you are fortunate enough that this can be a realistic dream in your life, iracing should be your best bet. If you’re a regular guy wanting to improve his driving skills, GT7 is an excellent option.

[@kak8895]

Nope GT7 is average for driving. I'd rather play BeamNG

[@mtzmueller]

@@kak8895 Interesting, can you please explain why? I haven’t tried that one before, what’s their wheel support? Do they have the license to real brands or do you have to download mods?

[@MrRaphaelLippi]

​@@mtzmueller he is just trolling

[@LEODIVINE83]

As an HPDE3 driver I couldn’t agree with you more. Tried both and preferred GT for the exact reasons you stated. Just wish PS5 would also offer 32:9 view and be compatible with motion control units.

[@kak8895]

@@MrRaphaelLippi Not trolling, GT7 is the last game on any list for learning to drive. Engines have zero inertia, engines don't stall, engine load up is inaccurate, ABS/TCS/ESC simulation is dissimilar to reality, Automatic transmission is completely inaccurate to reality, no DCT/CVT transmissions, no configurable drive modes for some of its everyday cars, engine sounds during deceleration is flat, clutch characteristics are flat, suspensions are flat and too rigid, chassis flex is nonexistent. There's way more problems but I'll chill for now. It's an arcade game at best. As this video has covered up the slip angles are too narrow and tyres are too unpredictable.

[@josephbornman8462]

The way you go through the tracks is so smooth--I miss that now playing ACC. So bumpy lol

[@DCFHazardRebornChannel]

The understeer is a deal breaker for me. Been there since GT3. I do not recall GT2 feeling like that. I honestly cannot enjoy the game because of this. But as always have been saying for years, what you gain and learn from all these games can be applied to real life or any other game because at the very minimum they all work on the same basis. Even on a controller, you learn what a line is, a turning point, a breaking point, what oversteer and understeer is, even if you do not have the proper application of it due to controller it has a lot of information there you can learn from and if even on a controller it is adding to you then I would say ALL these experiences definitely add to your skill overall. Simple idea is don't do on the road what you would do on the track. Either keep it on the track or in sim racing or simcade or whatever (once upon a time GT was simply considered a sim racer but anyway, its all the same just different levels imo). But what your every day driving adds is the understanding more of what is happening. Even aiming to drive safely for yourself and others around you, these concepts make you a better safe driver too. And perhaps some day may help in a situation that is forced on you as well. But yeah in terms of preferences, from the now simcade front FM was always more to my steering liking, but tbh I phased out of FM too for many years. Was absent from racing games for quite some time, and recently picked up AC. So much fun and so happy I did. And the steering is just how I want it. So seeing GT7 is STILL on the low end really turns me off. I couldn't stand it back in the day and still can't stand it now. Feels like I am forcing myself to drive in a certain way whereas even FM felt like I could adapt more realistically to a track. GT is much more as you say, focused on the line of a turn. This also teaches you a lot, but after you learn the line of a turn, there is so much more and that is the level I am at even for gaming for a long time now. So not having that level of control is a deal breaker to the point of not making the game playable, so I don't bother at all at that point. And seeing as we have so many other options now, well, I feel there is even less a reason to play GT7, much less the new FM.

[@doubleL_S]

Been waiting to hear someone else say this !!! Grand turismos suck because of the understeer.

[@Valentino_Cilantro]

Exactly the video I’ve been looking for. Thank you.

[@VinRZ]

Im slowly getting into Time Attack irl, and I came from iRacing background. I have gotta say, with the habits that I developed from iRacing really helped me on track driving. IRL, you can tell a lot quicker with the grip level from your vehicle than iRacing.

[@dag1704]

It is absolutely wild to me that it is possible today to be drafted for a real race car, if you are a really good sim racer. It makes sense, but... The possibility is astonishing, look 10 years back you could forget about that. I am really happy for you guys having that option!

[@FollowingDopamine]

I’m just ordered the vr2. I HOPE it is all I want. Because of that I ordered the wheel and stand too (had an Xbox version but not the biggest fan of fh5 right now).

[@martinezljx07]

You are very eloquent and know how to transmit your message in a very clear and entertaining way. Big props to you. Would love for you to check out and give us you feedback on AMS2 1.5. It likes a slidey driving that is nothing like iRacing

[@punker911a]

Arcade is need for speed and similar games. Ya’ll swear an average person will just pick up gt7. Most people find it chalanging. Unlike like Need for speed or burnout.

[@leodalkey651]

I started sim racing back when GT was new on the PS1. Made me a better driver as an adult. Fisherman's ranch is GT7's sueto-Nurburgring dirt track. Hard to master. Even harder in cockpit cam for VR. I was doing the circuit experience and something just clicked about using the audio to track shift points instead of using the tack or the HUD. Days landing 3.11. Now I'm comfortable in the 3.7 range.

[@Victor4293]

You will do a Forza Motorsport comparison?

[@14herkev]

Great video! Love this channel

[@liquidsk8s]

I believe sims have plateaued for the most part and GT has caught up as consoles have gotten more powerful. The more important differentiator now, is what gear your using. It would be a fun test. Compare the realism of iRacing with a G27 and 2.2Nm of TQ vs a DD with 15Nm+. IMO using a high end DD with GT7 is more of a sim than someone using a G27/29 with Iracing/ACC.

[@46Laxis]

It seems like many of you started racing game from Gran Turismo or Need for Speed or iRacing. I started with Road Fighter and Formula One: Built to Win on Nintendo NES. Here I am now playing GT7 with controller only.

[@ArielGoldenRet]

Hi @SuelioAlmeida, when will you be creating the video to compare VR vs Monitors?? Interested on that, I just tried searching for it in your channel , and cannot see it. Loving so far your course.

[@paulhibberd3125]

Well made video very enjoyable and interesting.. well done 👍👍

[@piotrekf943]

there is also 120hz resoluton mode which runs smoother than 60,low input lag, and still looks good

[@rochester3]

not in VR though

[@piotrekf943]

@@rochester3 in vr 120hz is only mode

[@rochester3]

@@piotrekf943 ok i see, does it offer ray tracing?

[@piotrekf943]

@@rochester3 rt in gt7 is only in replays

[@ethierrr9202]

Hey, just noticed you were racing in Trois-Rivières, Quebec. Are you gonna go back there this year ?

[@saucerocreamify]

I've always wound up tapping the brakes like in real life driving in snow.

[@don.timeless4993]

which one of Assetto Corsa, Automobilista & iRacing have overwhelming long career mode with diverse cars similar to GT 7 on PC? because im not into online racing. 1822

[@zachbishop5421]

I definitely feel the new update has made Gran Turismo a lot more realistic with the abs at least before u could really turn and dive into corners while on the brakes still where now u just go strait on lol

[@snoopy_peanuts_77]

Youll have to redo this because GT7 completely changed their physics after last week lol

[@SuellioAlmeida]

I mentioned it in the video actually!

[@JJ-iv4ze]

Great video, definitely will have to re-watch to understand it all. Great technical insights.

[@chonglers1513]

Since on gt7 its easy to go from understeer to abrupt oversteer, would it be possible to use a harder or the hardest compound tire available (due to the wheel's softer cornering stiffness) to be practice being in the neutral steer state for longer?

[@manostororosso2364]

Need For Speed is Arcade... anyone saying GT is arcade is stupid to say the least... not the best sim ..sure but arcade?

[@TACJHON_]

High hopes for gt8 in like 5 years😅

[@0-60STYLE]

I hate how every car turns the same on the steering wheel in GT. In AC it's scaled, and you have a lot more turning distance with the sim wheel and it's like better because it allows you to be more precise Like a fast moving vs slow moving pointer on the screen... Gt forces everyone to play Counter Strike with a fast mouse, and that part I hate.

[@1xRacer]

Gt7 to me feels like exaggerated physics, you can learn to race cars and tracks (which are perfect) extremely well. I totally agree, great video!

[@ertugrulbae46]

With the update..its far more refined and grippy.

[@kak8895]

​​@@ertugrulbae46 Still too exaggerated. Understeer during trail braking proves that it's just a casual racing game. Slip angles are too narrow for a Simulator. In real life, if you drive the way you do in GT7 you'd turn your tyres into steaming mush.

[@Cal3000]

@@kak8895 seems that you are abusing the brakes on the traction circle if you are having issues trail braking. Brake pressure is very strict now with it. You have to gradually let off when you turn in. There’s plenty of turn in.

[@revento5544]

@@kak8895 I agree, totally this

[@WolvesLightUponYou]

The Snap-Oversteer in GT7 is so annoying. And I feel I am unable to accelerate smoothly out of corners with GT4/3 cars etc. It is so weired.

[@buzzbuzzard3809]

If iRacing was free not a single person would claim it to be better than GT7. How expensive it is gives the illusion of value. It´s a rip-off. With GT7 you get over 420 cars, 34 tracks and over 90 routes. Highly dynamic weather. You have official events held by the Olympic committee along with the FIA and manufactures cups by the likes of Toyota Gazoo. GT7 also has a partnership with super formula which will allow people to transition from the game to the real thing in the future. GT7 takes itself very seriously and WILL outgrow iRacing which looks like a ps2 game and doesn´t even have rain. The physics will keep getting updated and tons of more content will come like the SF23 for example FREE OF CHARGE. Meanwhile iRacing makes absolutely sure to extract every last penny out of your pocket. Make the switch now guys. Stop sinking any more money into iRacing. Do the right thing. If you take racing and motorsports seriously switch to GT7.

[@DriftNick]

Not sure if trolling or just stupid.

[@dc-vw4qm]

Great video by GT Academy already proves it in 2012

[@Pratheepmy]

Hate the hard coded subtitles. Why don’t you use the captions so it can be optionally turned on.

[@lukeatom4068]

Made me feel really sick playing gran turismo 7 in VR, only lasted about 10 minutes lol.

[@d14_x80]

It goes away after the first day. When I started it made me sick too but the next day I only had issues if I stopped. Lasted about another day and its second nature now

[@MrRaphaelLippi]

"60hz is just not enough for sim racing" Me driving with 60hz my whole life: Am I a joke to you?

[@AllOutNoobHater]

GT7 is a great simcade game for those beginning to intermediate. But for those that race in real life, want to get into real life racing, and or just wants a bigger challenge, iRacing is the next step. But nobody can deny just how good GT7 is. It’s a gem for the car enthusiast.

[@Vizr]

Such a fire vid!! Instant sub 🥵

[@hazardlightsmotorsports]

GT is “The real driving Simulator”. Also, ghosting is new since bad drivers used to ruin everyone’s races. So at least now you can finish your race without being punted or taken out of the race. Also, there is mechanical damage. Do some Nations/Manufacturers Cup and you’ll see what I mean. DS4/DS5 controller FTW!🎮 Let me know what you think of my races with a controller.👍🏼

[@cpt-420]

i racing 2000 graphics and how much to play it rather play ps5

[@Vincefromsin]

How do you say understeer?

[@SuellioAlmeida]

undersheer

[@neilbezuidenhout9284]

.... Ur 60 hz VS 120hz point is nonsense.... Sorry to say.... And yes I have a 120hz and 60hz monitors. Also I have acc on ps5 and pc...... There is way more of a disconnected feel between car and input in Acc over gt7 on pc aswell as ps5 version{acc}

[@scoobychau]

Does psvr support 120hz?

[@andreasmoller9798]

Iracing is just not for me. Gt7 is more my kind of game

[@nick_g]

Where’s the VR vid? I subbed

[@michaelschneider1365]

are all you settings off? on most or all cars. in gt7

[@SuellioAlmeida]

If you mean assists, all off except TC and ABS

[@Greyboxer]

Which force feedback settings did you find worked best for you in GT7?

[@edcadlick2650]

I will practice more😊👍

[@tomgray8156]

As a lifelong gran turismo fan, and someone who can’t really afford to get into more serious sim racing, I appreciate this comparison. It’s nice to know the techniques I’m developing in gt7 aren’t trash too. Your point about sportsman and driver rankings is one I share, I’ve had friends get into gt7 and tell me it’s trash because everyone is a noob, and I’ve tried to explain that, once you move up, the competition is quite good and much more respectful.

[@LilyKittyFemboySimRacing]

Even rFactor 2 is better than iracing realism wise but it's boring iracing is decent just trash for the price you pay, and gt7 of course is the best price to performance wise this dude just wants views.

[@mikekovacich2925]

That wasn't my experience. I got to a+ rather quickly but no matter what, I would get shunted and punted off every time I made an outside pass. The lack of sportsmanship is what drove me away from gt7 and to iracing.

[@LilyKittyFemboySimRacing]

@@mikekovacich2925 try, idk, not squeezing people to the last inch, I figured that out real quick with the AI even in Hard difficulty. Not everyone is gonna see you as a god and back out for you every time people are entitled to their race as well.

[@tomgray8156]

@@mikekovacich2925 the driver ranking is gunna matter much less than sportsman ranking. Lot high driver/low sportsman ranked folk cus they get good results from dirty tactics. You get to S tier sportsman and, generally, everyone is pretty clean, no matter the driver rank.

[@mikekovacich2925]

@@tomgray8156 i am/was S+ tier, still dirty.

[@yorkiemike]

Great video. As a fair beginner in GT7, I want to improve and learn more but find there is a lot of 'snobbyness' around certain sims, especially from people who moved away from GT7 and now think it's somehow beneath them. I'm glad that you highlighted that you can improve and find good racing in any game.

[@miltiadiskyvernitis]

They are idiots. GT7 is a fantastic simulator.

[@Barry.R]

Great comparison and no one has done a review this detailed. Excited to see future GT7 content and streams

[@jaden4833]

I searched GT7 vs iRacing. Quit a lot of videos actually and pretty in-depth

[@Phantom096]

Problem I have with IRacing is you have a monthly payment. Even if you spend some money in GT7 It is probably cheaper. VR2 has made screens obsolete for me. It is unbelievable. it’s like you are inside every car.

[@bobbyDD]

i got gt7 for ps5 and i had no clue about the simracing community. started racing online and within a 3 months i had a t300 and loadcells and had gotten gold in all of the licenses. good thing i already had a gaming pc or else this hobby would’ve put me into debt because now a little less than a year later, I have a full simagic/heusinkveld/next level racing setup😆 point is: I would’ve never gotten into sim racing or cars in general if not for GT. it was simultaneously the worst and best purchase ive made LOL

[@ertugrulbae46]

With PSVR2..GT7 literally shits on the other sims It's now compatible with 120fps...graphics are still by far the best. And you have normal road cars. Oh and the lobbies are actually populated. Lot more content. It's a no brainer at this point.

[@RafLpz]

Totally clueless. Try actually driving Assetto Corsa on PC through Content Manager before talking out your ass. Plus every PC sim still runs more simulation. GT7 is cute and fun to drive but still not serious.

[@oxzak9093]

AC with filters and mods and vr i dont think so

[@phil_5430]

Its not that simple. GT7 vr really raised the bar by a lot when it comes to vr racing. One thing for sure is that GT7 is above everything else when it comes to details inside cars. Its unbelievable how much work the devs put into making these cars look EXACTLY like in real life. Every button on the center console, every little detail and even the material structure inside the car: you can literally feel and smell the surface of the alcantara leather in some expensive cars. The scaling is also on point: I was shocked when I switched from the lowered sports cars to a Ford Raptor and how high you actually sit in that car and how big the car is inside, feels like driving a truck. I play AC religiously too but only on PS5 due to the big screen on the tv. I have it on PC too and took a small look into the modding with custom shaders and some fancy modded cars. Sure, the driving physics are WAY above GT7, thats undeniable and while GT7 focuses more on the details and history of cars, AC makes up with the exact details on how the actual car works: thottle blipping for example. Like I said, I only took a small look into mods but wasnt very impressed from what I saw. Some cars are really well done by some modders who put an insane work into it but I mostly found myself driving modded cars which are "ok" as you can clearly see these were made as a hobby by someone other but not the actual devs. And thats the reason why I've never liked mods in any game with some exceptions (games like Skyrim and so on...). Also the more you go into graphic mods in AC the more demanding the game gets obviously. GT7 vr has to be tried to understand why it impresses people so much. I've showed the vr mode to friends and siblings and I love it when new people try it out because then I can see their reactions and its always hilarious to see how grown people suddenly get so happy with a videogame ;-) @@oxzak9093

[@edreed5571]

Lmfao arcade racer

[@cornedbeef4332]

​@@edreed55710 IQ reply

[@LyonPercival]

Nice and educated review - not very opinionated and entertainment-focused... purely focused on giving an objective and realistic review, and that on its own is entertainment for such video types(reviews) Good job!

[@brendandrives]

Easily the best video I’ve watched comparing the 2 games!

[@bobs7771]

Good comparison! With the onset of PSVR2 GT7 has never been better. In fact, PSVR2 is so good I will never race again without it.

[@GiovanniCaenazzo]

Do iRacing fans still complain when you call their game, a game?

[@Zascar_88]

Great analysis and comparison of the two platforms. I have been interested in iracing but the cost is concerning.

[@pushthelimits4062]

R3e is a pretty decent racing simulation. It has not the best graphics, but the physics and ffb are very good. And if you focus more on GT3‘s you can try ACC. Both are very good and affordable racing simulations. (Just a suggestion if you are looking for a „true“ simulation and an alternative for GT7)

[@sbspassion]

​@@pushthelimits4062 yes but unfortunately acc doesn't provide the lfm format on PS5 😔 i bought it for that but now it seems like i can't enjoy it online.. still enjoy the offline racing tho, cpu is prettig good as you have a wide range of difficulty

[@cosmic6126]

Finally, an in-depth critique and synopsis with somebody who truly understands what they're talking about.

[@StraitShot]

I liked the video. For $70, GT7 is in a damn league of it's own. All tracks and cars are added to the game for free. Free VR support, rain and day/night time transitions. iRacing obviously wins the "sim" genre, where as GT7 blurs the line between Sim and Arcade. For a fraction of the cost and the ability to race with a Gamepad or Wheel makes GT7 a damn hard contender. Keep up the videos, you got a sub.

[@Stroker-Z28]

That's hilarious

[@alastairman1223]

I recently just got iRacing after competing online in gt7. It made my iRacing experience a lot more enjoyable. IRacing felt like gt7 but with a much stronger connection to the car and the ability to predict oversteer and when brakes lock. It also feels as if u approach a corner iRacing u have a lot more ways to approach a corner fast, but in gran tourismo there’s only one optimal way to go through a corner fast

[@SuellioAlmeida]

Exactly!!!

[@connorkenway09]

I love GT7, bever played iRacing. In GT it makes you feel as if regardless of FWD or RWD you always need to take turns with "steer off the throttle". Which totally isn't the case for FWD. Otherwise it taight me a lot of control over gas and brake input.

[@MANlNBIACK]

I don’t think gt7 is arcade anymore.

[@emersonoshea3179]

😂😂😂

[@MrAlanevo]

😂😂😂

[@PewNinja13]

😂😂😂

[@KeithNelson-xo9tj]

Hahahahahahahahaha..... Sorry. That was rude. someone please give this person some experience on a PC with proper Sims so he doesn't so willingly make a fool of himself in the comments next time

[@darwinkguillen8590]

Never been

[@ΜιχαήλΣιδεράς-β3φ]

As a real life driver I must say gran turismo feels as real as me driving a real car. That alone makes gt7 for me a real driving simulator

[@Crook3d_GT]

Iracing looks soooo dated its sad that's the best pc has to offer... it honestly looks like a ps3 game.

[@RogueBeatsARG]

It uses the engine from a 90s sim, Iracing is overrated

[@lawxxx2008]

Gt7vr is another level

[@Musicforyourears100]

I don't know back then but now is fine both of them. You need an expensive pc to run iracing but with ps5 and a psvr2 you are in the game. The community's are huge for both of them especially in gt7. More cars in gt7 and user friendly.

[@Udrgjitfcssgjoug]

As a person who can't afford a PC it feels nice to have gran turismo on ps4

[@ertugrulbae46]

Your GT7 comments seem like you're comparing the previous updates and not the latest one..as far as I'm concerned. The grip issues are resolved

[@DrKage-vz5jt]

Fantastic video Suellio! Great job of breaking down both GT7 & iRacing! Keep up the great work!

[@viowave]

When it comes to arcade with a feeling and a sensation I think Drive Club still holds its ground even today. It is a shame we never ever got a Drive Club 2. What makes Drive Club great is that it was road cars on roads ... amazing visuals and one of the best interiors up to date. Super and Hyper class were a bit too arcade , but the sweetspot was the Performance and Sports class.

[@a48717]

4:20 GT7 has had major physics changes back and forth but for most cars slip angle has a good range and feel, even with a controller because of the vibration feedback. Maybe I just focus to much on it since I drive more Sport tire than Race setups

[@barryschwarz]

I'm a teacher (arts). You are an excellent teacher, with a comprehensive understanding of your subject, the ability to see the tiniest details but also have a great and fair-minded overview perspective, and the language to articulate your understanding that is easily digestible. I've been looking for someone online to give a comprehensive review of the difference in physics between real racing and sim/semi-sim (I play GT7), and you illuminated those differences so well that I believe I can imagine what it is actually like to race IRL much better than before. Well done, mate. I'm sure your students are very fortunate to have your guidance.

[@brandonmccarthy9224]

I like both tbh, ACC is a blast but it's also fun to collect and customize cars and not be super serious

[@RikySim]

"60 Hz is just not enough for sim-racing"... what a unfortunate sentence just starting the video. It could be not enough for PROFRESIONAL sim racing but it is enoght indeed to enjoy it. Please, stop confusing people.

[@gamerpodium13]

Yep. This video just earned you a subscription. I will be watching closely here, time permitting.

[@ZachNovak]

Easily the best video talking about both games and RL perspective as well. Great video.

[@richpoor146]

Get over yourselves, there is no true simulator. Either your in a real car or your playing arcade.

[@leandroguerreiro4533]

Hi Man, i liked you vídeo but there are some facts that you missed about GT7... GT7 have permanent and temporary damage which permanent damage its required to go to pits to repair the car...,not very advanced damage model but its there and your Race its Over if you take permanent damage.. Also Ghosting can be removed, abs can be removed and so on. Theres why many people Race In private leagues cause people can configure the races to be more "realístic". Oficial ranked rraces use more arcade settings to Control the fun factor for casuals, even penaltys can be tweaked in the way they are served.. There are many small details that GT players dont know about the game cause simply they dont use the tools game provides and only do single player or oficial ranked races.

[@miguelcorreia6946]

Gt7 for me!

[@miguelcorreia6946]

And yes y can drive!

[@koorchik]

Thank you! One of the best comparisons. Moreover the new update is covered. Awesome!

[@PodiumTuningRacing]

Thank you for the video first and foremost. Secondly, would you mind making a video for your steering wheel settings for GT7? I'm looking to purchase the same setup (Logitech Pro) and for cockpit the Trophy G. Would also love to know if you are ever on Nürburgring for public meetup on GT7, it's been fun driving on there for stress release. Would be nice to race alongside you, even just to learn better line, braking techniques from a chase. You've been incredibly helpful for my racing development and appreciate all your hard work and efforts. When I get my wheel I would love to see if you have coaching bandwidth available to take on another student, cheers!

[@JPJW001]

Remember Jann Mardenborough

[@didico89]

Excellent video, I'm a Gran Turismo Pro Player, and I agree with everything you said 👍👍👍

[@PJ-hi1gz]

Looking forward to the VR comparison :)

[@LEODIVINE83]

Great detailed review. Wow! In 2017 I bought a 718 Cayman S and started tracking about 6 times a year. Same time also got thrustmaster GT 300RS and tried all at the same time. IRacing, GTSPORT, assetto corsa. Purpose was to have fun and improve my track skills. IRACING just felt more complicated than I cared for and surprisingly preferred the driving physics of GT. Even the bumps on Nurburgring felt more realistic. Assetto Corsa car control felt weird and overly dramatic when loosing control. Makes me wonder if all this depends on the steering brand. Anyway, returned my PC and stayed with GT but makes me wonder how things have changed since. Today my fanatec DD PRO arrives and can’t wait to see how much better it is. But also makes me wonder again about sim racing :)

[@SuellioAlmeida]

Sim Racing is amazing man! Go for it, find a team, join leagues, it's addicting

[@Trext.]

Need a new video on this after the physics update

[@DEMON_CHILD709]

Thanks for the comparison as i would like to try out iracing, comming from years of PlayStation and the new GT7 in VR2 !!! Thanks again Cheers!!!

[@markbooth]

What settings do you recommend for the Logitech Pro with GT7? I love the Trueforce around 35 although the wife is less keen at 1am lol

[@CesarMattos]

Can you add forza in the mix?

[@vogz5594]

FM is awful. It would be a waste of time doing a comparison video on it.