If you have any other favorite recipes from the book "Tartine Bread," let me know what they are in the comments below!
@jacquesletourneau36504 жыл бұрын
I would like to see you preparing Tartine Bread baguettes!
@GrantBakes4 жыл бұрын
Maybe I'll do Tartine's baguette recipe again soon! I've been playing around with baguettes a lot lately trying to find a formula that I love. The latest one I tried was an overnight baguette recipe if you haven't seen it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pZaQi56IZ7NnhJI
@BlackBalloonGraz4 жыл бұрын
@@GrantBakes yes please. I always failed with baguettes. Shaping and baking without a Dutch oven is both tricky.
@albaarboleda29134 жыл бұрын
I've followed your video three times: perfection every time. My husband made his first loaf of bread in his life following your video and - wow. Perfect. Now he's hooked - making his second today! Thank you.
@GrantBakes4 жыл бұрын
Another person hooked on bread baking - success! Thanks for following my video 😄
@KathyEx073 жыл бұрын
I don’t even know how many Videos I have watched especially last weekend and still failed at my first two attempts. Your Video just pop up at my and ITS PERFECT! I can see everything step by step and it’s easy to understand! Thank you so much!! Greetings from Germany/Stuttgart
@GrantBakes3 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I hope to make it back to Germany one day to try your country's wonderful breads 😋
@kellyeldershomesteadbeginn82422 жыл бұрын
The same happened with me accept I failed at about 8 loaves lol. It was my starter, I was impatient and it wasn't strong enough even though it passed the float test. I stopped trying to bake and just worked on my starter then boom! Almost perfect first edible loaf.
@rayvilla14 ай бұрын
Finally a video that really gets to the lessons - instead of the usual commercialized videos that lures you to buy the latest gadgets! I am enjoying this very much. Thank you
@GrantBakes4 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@byambaus13 жыл бұрын
Best explanation & step by step easy to follow . Thank you
@GrantBakes3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@944gemma2 жыл бұрын
I think the Tartine guy has met his match. You are second to none.
@bettinadiehl91663 жыл бұрын
This video is one of the best I have seen about Tartine sourdough bread. And I have seen many of them. I love baking this bread and I am still on my journey to make it perfect.
@triciapike62762 жыл бұрын
Grant! You are amazing. I made my very first sourdough starter (from scratch from your recipe) and baked the loaves using your video and they turned out simply fantastic. You have a beautiful knack for demystifying the whole process. I'm no longer scared to try and there is NO DISCARD so no waste. THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO TEACH ----So much more rewarding to learn to make something than to just buy it at the store.
@GrantBakes2 жыл бұрын
I completely agree that it's more rewarding this way. Thanks for the nice comment!
@fleurjoyce11119 ай бұрын
Really helpful video. I've been making sourdough for a while and having varying success, and seeing how you do the folds and shaping, all makes much more sense than looking at static photos. Thanks!
@GrantBakes9 ай бұрын
Thanks! Glad it's been helpful.
@ruthenerson9594 Жыл бұрын
So far this is the best video I watched on sourdough bread.
@GrantBakes Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@rugby2490 Жыл бұрын
How long did you proof this in the fridge?
@timadams826811 ай бұрын
Impressed with your finished product.
@supatjaneesudasna2923 жыл бұрын
ขอบคุณมากค่ะ / Thank you so much from Thailand.
@GrantBakes3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment!
@maureenkelm108 Жыл бұрын
Wow! Love watching you walk through steps of baking this loaf of bread. Mine is proofing in fridge now. Thanks!
@christinecamley7 ай бұрын
I love Tartine bread! This is a fabulous book! Love this video! Thanks!!
@thetwopointslow3 жыл бұрын
Great looking loaf dude! Thanks for sharing this nice detailed vid
@GrantBakes3 жыл бұрын
Any time! Thanks for the comment.
@VelvetRevolver104 Жыл бұрын
How much time was in the fridge?
@gracescott73703 жыл бұрын
Thanks Grant! I knew I could count on you to do clarify the instructions!
@GrantBakes3 жыл бұрын
Haha awesome! Thanks, Grace. Let me know if there are any other recipes out there you want to see. I might make a Tartine baguette video as well 👍🏻
@gracescott73703 жыл бұрын
YES! You're really great at simplifying complex things. I made a SD pannetone last Christmas... but it took me 3 tries to make something edible, and even then, it wasn't that great. :( Bread changes as soon as things like fruit, eggs and butter are added. I'd love to see a video, using your method, which shows how to do this, or sweet SD breads. :D Thanks so much. Thank you for coming up with a reduced recipe of the Tartine bread. I wanted to try it, but the original recipe was too much for my family. :D
@caris28934 жыл бұрын
You made this SO simple! Thank you!!!
@GrantBakes4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. Thanks for the comment!
@bethbilous47203 жыл бұрын
How did you get that loaf into the hot dutch oven withour parchment. ? You should show that.
@GrantBakes3 жыл бұрын
Good point! I think I slid it in on a peel, but I actually recommend using parchment for a Dutch oven, it works a lot better
@auracollins55493 жыл бұрын
Hola por seguro trataré de hacer tu receta la próxima semana, gracias de nuevo por subir tus vídeos y tus consejos 👍
@GrantBakes3 жыл бұрын
Claro que sí 👍🏻
@brendabee10 ай бұрын
Alright now, I have to pre shape and final shape, into the fridge and I'll bake tomorrow! I I'll let you know how it is! Thanl you for your video.
@JJ-pi7ev4 жыл бұрын
That looks like a delightful loaf of bread. Nice work.
@GrantBakes4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@helenr.21844 жыл бұрын
Yours looks better than the book cover!
@GrantBakes4 жыл бұрын
Oh, well that is too kind, Helen! ☺️
@eileentomczyk94463 жыл бұрын
I so enjoyed following your video n recipe 😀 😊 teaching my husband with your great instructions!
@GrantBakes3 жыл бұрын
Yay, that's awesome!
@americafirst8342 жыл бұрын
I was the 1,000 like. I want my sourdough bread!
@GrantBakes2 жыл бұрын
Send me an email to grantbakesbread@gmail.com. I'll have something for you...
@janetrodriguez9145 ай бұрын
Looks fantastic!
@jasonreid6113 жыл бұрын
Been listening lately...I like it.
@GrantBakes3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Jason! Tartine knows how to make a great loaf.
@jasonreid6113 жыл бұрын
Actually I followed your advice on sourdough starter. Took me 9 days to get it sorted but now I have rye starter that will double in 3-4 hours after taking it from the fridge. My family are enjoying my new bread passion.
@GrantBakes3 жыл бұрын
@@jasonreid611 Congrats! A new starter is born 🎉
@arturkarwanski3 жыл бұрын
Hi, they just sent me a book, I already have a few others, i waited 3 months for this. I can't wait to start baking bread, bake on stone not in a pot, see how it comes out, wish you every success, greet with Polish
@GrantBakes3 жыл бұрын
Hope you enjoy it!
@johannavanwinkle8152 жыл бұрын
Great instructional video!!
@GrantBakes2 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@nicholasloverde5932 Жыл бұрын
Hey sparky I was wondering the same thing !
@Melinabellisima2 жыл бұрын
Hey I followed your recipe! It was so easy! I used scissors to score though and it looks rustic. Wish I could upload the photo.
@estherng649610 ай бұрын
Thank you for your recipe 🙏👍
@Rexyspride3 жыл бұрын
Hey man thanks so much for this video. I just got the Tartine book last week and made my first loaf (from this book, not ever) and it was my best one so far. There were a couple of points which were unclear from the book but you’ve made them crystal! Looking forward to making an olive one tomorrow.
@GrantBakes3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Glad it was helpful. Sometimes video can explain it better than a book. Definitely make the olive loaf, my wife and I have been loving olive sourdough lately! 👍🏻
@Rexyspride3 жыл бұрын
@@GrantBakes I took it out of the oven this morning. Going to make some minestrone soup to go with it for dinner
@GrantBakes3 жыл бұрын
@@Rexyspride Sounds perfect
@eileentomczyk94463 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much finally made great oven spring with nice ear! Next taste n texture!
@GrantBakes3 жыл бұрын
Great job! Glad it worked out ☺️
@soundinducedflow4 ай бұрын
Amazingly helpful video! Thanks! What is the diameter of your dutch oven?
@ig59234 жыл бұрын
Thanks, very good info. Proofing how long (min & max) the refrigerator?
@GrantBakes4 жыл бұрын
I'd say minimum of 6 hours and max can be up to a few days in my opinion.
@Rob_4304 жыл бұрын
ig5923 I make Tartine often and made a loaf the other day. Bulk and final proof depend a lot on ambient temperature. It’s summer here so bulk took 4 hours from mixing. I final proof for 2 hours, then retard in the fridge till later at night to bake. Many retard final proof in fridge overnight. I believe that option is in the book. In winter, my kitchen is colder, so anything SD takes longer, but you can fix that.
@Rob_4304 жыл бұрын
Well Done Grant, and with an ear! It’s hard to believe you are fairly new to bread baking. You handle that dough and the method very well. I’ve been doing no knead for years, and Tartine Bread for about 5 yrs. I just baked a Tartine loaf yesterday, can’t post the pic on here :(
@GrantBakes4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Rob! It was a learning process, but after what feels like a couple hundred loaves later I've gotten very comfortable with it! Could you email me the picture of your bread to grantbakesbread@gmail.com ? I'd love to see your Tartine loaf 👍🏻
@Rob_4304 жыл бұрын
Grant Bakes sure. I emailed it to you.
@Rob_4304 жыл бұрын
Grant Bakes As mentioned, I sent you a pic of my Tartine loaf as requested. Did you get it? Never heard back.
@monikaj32963 жыл бұрын
Love to know where to get that glass square bowl with lime green see through lid ?
@GrantBakes3 жыл бұрын
Ok, so it's a ziploc brand glass bowl. I think it's one of these VersaGlass containers. www.amazon.com/Ziploc-VersaGlass-Container-Medium-32-Ounce/dp/B004I57XPS
@RR-ry5xt3 жыл бұрын
Great video! I just got the Tartine book and have been trying to follow it with no luck yet, still figuring this whole thing out... I see that you did a couple things differently than what the book says - for example, during the bulk fermentation, you give the bread only 3 sets of turns and then let it rest for 2 hours. In the book, he says to continuously stretch and fold throughout the 3-4 hour bulk, meaning at least 5-6 sets of turns, then he doesn't say anything about letting it rest for 2 hours, he goes right into shaping... Am I misunderstanding something in the book? It's a little unclear... Or maybe your extra steps are the key to making this recipe work. Let me know your thoughts, thanks!
@GrantBakes3 жыл бұрын
Hmmm, I'll have to read it again. But I don't think that would make or break the recipe. 3 sets of folds or 6 sets of folds will both work!. The oven spring might be a little bit taller with 6 sets of folds.
@maryabelanger698110 ай бұрын
I’ve watched this 100 times and am about to put my second ever loaf in the oven right now! If I can only go up to 450, how would you adjust the time?
@GrantBakes10 ай бұрын
Do 450 and keep the time the same. At the end, if you think the bread doesn’t look dark enough, keep baking for another 5-10 minutes. Good luck!
@trustndlovundlovini21123 жыл бұрын
This is amazing thanks so much sir
@GrantBakes3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment!
@evmartini57509 ай бұрын
Where did you get this glass with with lid? It’s perfect
@GrantBakes9 ай бұрын
I'm not sure! I've got a glass bowl with a red lid that I like to use nowadays. Here's a link to my Amazon store where it's listed: grantbakes.com/amazon
@evmartini57509 ай бұрын
@@GrantBakes thank you so much!
@markstoll9636 Жыл бұрын
could you explain what the sourdough starter is. the terms are somewhat interchangeable. leven. starter. sourdough starter. thx
@margrete_walks3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video, do you cover the dough in the refrigerator, if so with what?
@GrantBakes3 жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks! Usually I just leave it uncovered. But most people cover theirs with some kind of plastic bag.
@sparkyheberling6115 Жыл бұрын
14:06 "Transfer the dough seam-side down onto the flour" You flipped it again. Doesn't that make it seam-side up?
@myhappyplace5597 Жыл бұрын
Hello. I notice sometimes you use the banneton with the liner and sometimes not. Also cover or not cover in fridge. I’m completely obsessed with making sourdough and know it’s an art based on so many variables. Does it matter either way - with or without? I live in Pacific Northwest and currently not to warm. So learning to adjust
@tylerkujawa7051 Жыл бұрын
Bro did you go to iwu? Looking for video on the fold and was like I recognize that dude
@jhanlon2413 жыл бұрын
Looks great Grant! Would the baking time be less in a convection oven?
@juanitabeaudoin2746 Жыл бұрын
I have the Tartine Bread book. What pages are you using here?
@onlyinparadise4613 Жыл бұрын
I tried Tartine Los Angeles Manufactory bread (when they were opened). It was just okay. It didn’t blow my mind unfortunately. The best sourdough bread I’ve tasted was from Acme Bakery in SF.
@GrantBakes Жыл бұрын
I'll need to try Acme some time. I've been to the Tartine Manufactory in San Francisco and I loved the loaf and the croissants.
@hermitwatcher8997 Жыл бұрын
The best sourdough I’ve ever had was the sourdough I’ve made
@nancygermain2269 Жыл бұрын
Hi, great vidéo, my first try at doing a bread. My dough hasnt rise as much, can i live it on my counter instead of the refrigerator till tomorrow? Could it help to rise more ? Thank you
@GrantBakes Жыл бұрын
Yes you can! But you'll run the risk of it over proofing if it goes too long. Hope it worked out!
@lauramiller52082 жыл бұрын
Love your videos! Why is this different from regular sourdough? This is how I make mine but I don’t make the levain. 🤷🏼♀️
@jasonreid6113 жыл бұрын
I go back to this video about once a week when I make make loaf
@GrantBakes3 жыл бұрын
The weekly Tartine loaf. Nice 👍🏻
@Alisha83Marie Жыл бұрын
Hi there! I loved how straightfoward this video is! I have to admit though Im super confused about the starter/levain ratios. The book calls for 1tbsp starter, 200g water, and 200g 50/50 flour blend. This is for the 2 loaf recipe. So wouldnt the 1 loaf recipe that you did call for 1/2 tbsp starter, 100g water, and 100 g flour? Am I missing something?
@MathAndSpanishАй бұрын
I think he quartered something instead of halfed to compensate... will be watching again more carefully!
@TrangPham-ce3tz2 жыл бұрын
Hello. Thank you for your tutorial. May I change whole meal by dark rye flour for starter and the dough? Thank you.
@GrantBakes2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it will be great but it won’t be exactly the same as using whole wheat.
@Michael1543 жыл бұрын
Do you change the bulk fermentation rest periods during the cooler months? Tartine mentions putting the dough in the oven with a boiling pot of water. It's currently 40 degrees outside, 70 degrees inside and I didn't get the same rise as your loaf. Sounds like it was summertime when you filmed this video.
@GrantBakes3 жыл бұрын
I definitely do. The bulk fermentation should take a little bit longer in the winter, if you're just keeping the dough at room temperature.
@galemartin3277 Жыл бұрын
How is that tartine bread different from any other sourdough??
@marlenecheladyn64502 жыл бұрын
I have the same recipe. My bread does not look like that. Doesn't rise as much and ends up with tunneling unless I add oil in the last rest. Is my kitchen/fridge to cold?
@tglenn31213 жыл бұрын
I'm curious to know if you've tried any alternates to this recipe. For example, tonight I'm making the starter using an equal mix of bread flour and Einkorn (instead of whole wheat).
@tglenn31213 жыл бұрын
Actually, I tried it myself. I swapped out the whole wheat and replaced with Einkorn flour. Worked out very nicely. The bread had a nice texture and sort of slightly nutty taste to it. Got compliments from the people I shared it with.
@GrantBakes3 жыл бұрын
Haven't tried that particular combination yet. But, the combinations and possibilities are endless!
@HM39604 жыл бұрын
Hi I did exactly according to the recipe you shared but in pre-shaping time dough was to much sticky. More than what you showed in your preparation. Can you inform me why?
@GrantBakes4 жыл бұрын
Hey Habib, thanks for trying out my tutorial. The stickiness could be from many reasons. Every type of flour is different, so the type of flour you used may have needed less water than mine. If you found it too sticky to work with, subtract 25g of water from the recipe and try again. I think if you cut the water back a little bit then it should work better next time. A lot of this is trial and error, so I hope this works for you!
@HM39604 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@carolchanpoon3 жыл бұрын
And also, is it ok to leave it out in room temperature for longer than 4 hours in the bulk fermentation process? Thank you
@GrantBakes3 жыл бұрын
Yes, leave it out as long as it needs!
@carolchanpoon3 жыл бұрын
@@GrantBakes Thanks. Is there a time limit as to whether the dough will be over fermented in the bulk fermentation process. It is because I need to go out after the 3rd stretch and fold and will not be able to be back in 2 hours. Is it ok to leave it there for like 4 hours after the 3rd stretch and fold before I do the pre-shape?
@GrantBakes3 жыл бұрын
@@carolchanpoon From the initial mix until the shape should be around 5-8 hours, depending on the temperature. If you need to be out longer than that, I would say to use cold water in your dough. This was the fermentation will go slower and you can be out for longer :)
@diannejambrosek19462 жыл бұрын
Can you use a cookie sheet under the Dutch oven or do you recommend a baking stone and if so, which one? My bread tends to burn on the bottom.
@GrantBakes2 жыл бұрын
A cookie sheet should work fine 👍🏻 give it a try.
@mslgizzle Жыл бұрын
Oh, you gotta get a cast iron trivot! No more burnt bottoms!
@lize1455 Жыл бұрын
@@mslgizzle. Thanks!
@kimyoung2748 Жыл бұрын
Perfect
@GrantBakes Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@carolchanpoon3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for your videos! I love them! May I ask if it is ok for leave the dough uncovered in banneton basket in the fridge for cold proof more than 12 hours?
@GrantBakes3 жыл бұрын
Yes, give it a try. It’ll be ok 👍🏻
@robynsaalfield70423 жыл бұрын
Hi there, After following your video and making things simple I have finally had success. Are you thinking about doing a tutorial on sourdough baguettes? My attempts have failed. As hard as cricket bats!
@GrantBakes3 жыл бұрын
Great! Glad it worked out. I'd love to do a sourdough baguette video, it's in the works! Stay tuned 🙂🥖
@hoonkohchin13 жыл бұрын
At timing 11.02, you mentioned a total of 4 hours. Should it be 3.3 hours? There were 3 rest of 30 mins plus a 2 hrs after the 3rd stretch & fold
@irinaalschiz94222 жыл бұрын
Grate!
@namratasadana46803 жыл бұрын
I am newbie in making sourdough!! Your explanation is really great !! Do u put the bread in convection mode or baking mode !!
@GrantBakes3 жыл бұрын
Just regular non-convection baking mode. Thanks for watching!
@effatkhalil5613 жыл бұрын
what is the difference between this bread and the normal sourdough
@esakesak31213 жыл бұрын
It's great
@GrantBakes3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@EstebanMcC8 ай бұрын
When I get to initial shape, it looks so much wetter than yours. Following the same recipe/book and it’s just hard to work with. Much frustration.
@jonathansparacio72792 жыл бұрын
What does SF know about country bread?
@GrantBakes2 жыл бұрын
Haha I think the author lived in France where “country bread” is the norm. But I agree that SF is the opposite of “country.”
@AlV1813 жыл бұрын
Спасибо!
@GrantBakes3 жыл бұрын
Пожалуйста!
@GrantBakes3 жыл бұрын
I hope that means, "you're welcome!"
@cliffcox76439 ай бұрын
Dude, at 14:30, you're deflating w your fingertips.
@GrantBakes8 ай бұрын
Maybe a little bit. That's OK.
@tglenn31213 жыл бұрын
If I don't have a dutch oven, can I just bake the bread on a stone (or steel) and have a pan of water in the oven for steam?
@GrantBakes3 жыл бұрын
Yep! I've got a video on that too. Should work fine. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJraZHucna-qd9k
@BlackBalloonGraz4 жыл бұрын
You left out the maybe hardest part. How you get the dough from the peel into the Dutch oven?? Can you show that in your next video? You left this step out in your last videos. Also with parchment paper I have no idea how. I always keep the parchment inside the Dutch oven because I lift it with the paper. But you do something different clearly.. Please let me know. Cheers
@GrantBakes4 жыл бұрын
Hey, great question. I actually usually use parchment paper and I lift the dough into the dutch oven, keeping the parchment paper inside. It sounds like you do the same thing. This works fine for me every time. When filming a few of these videos I was actually out of parchment paper so I slid the dough off of my peel into the dutch oven. It's definitely tricky and I wasn't sure how it was going to work out, so I didn't film it haha. BUT I actually would just recommend transferring the dough into the dutch oven with the parchment paper and all. That's the easiest way I have found to do it with a high-sided dutch oven like this one.
@BlackBalloonGraz4 жыл бұрын
@@GrantBakes thanks. So no magic trick.. Yes it's tricky. I try to get a good combo cooker or a low Dutch oven with the top being the bigger part. That would be best of course. With the sticky and wet doughs I do sliding it in would never work. :)
@GrantBakes4 жыл бұрын
@@BlackBalloonGraz Exactly, no magic trick. Sometimes with wetter doughs, when just taking them out of the fridge they are firm enough to slide off of the peel nicely into the dutch oven. But the safest bet is to just transfer with parchment paper and all. My next video will be a no-knead sourdough bread and I'll show you how I normally transfer into my dutch oven with the parchment paper. I finally have parchment paper in my house again!
@Rob_4304 жыл бұрын
Joe Farmer when I bake using a hot Dutch oven, what I do is put parchment over the banneton backed up by a plastic cutting board. Invert. Then lift the parchment with loaf into the pot. Leave enough “handles” as sort of a sling, cutting the parchment some.
@BlackBalloonGraz4 жыл бұрын
@@Rob_430 thanks
@ronaldsach46323 жыл бұрын
hey - just started- fed my starter, and it floats... started the dough as instructed, but i doubled the recipe... all ingred's measured on a scale... i just added the salt and the balance of the water.... my dough is WAY more hydrated then on the video..WAY-MORE... i added some add flour to get it close to your consistency ... for sure diff flours hydrate diff.. i'm using bob's red mill art. bread flour... its now resting...
@GrantBakes3 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you made the proper adjustments. I'm sure it'll turn out great!
@ronaldsach46323 жыл бұрын
ok ... now on 3rd fold- i like the dough much better now... stay tuned
@ronaldsach58563 жыл бұрын
hey grant.... YESSSS... it came out really good - i luv the crumb - my only problem is that outside does not crisp up enough,,,, its def done, but its soft,,,, any suggestions??? - i'd luv to get it near to what a brooklyn italian bread outside is... thanks
@KimHanson101 Жыл бұрын
You quartered instead of halved the leaven without mentioning why, I suspect its because the original recipe makes twice the needed preferment.
@reneespickard4893 Жыл бұрын
How many hours total did you retard the bread in the refrigerator? You say all day and night. Tartine says 8-12 hr. I have made delicious SD many times with this recipe by following your video but have recently had a couple of fails. I accidentally threw away my notes and am trying to figure out what error/s I made. Not sure if it’s different brands of flour, salt, proofing etc. Great videos! Thank you.
@GrantBakes Жыл бұрын
I think it was about 12 hours in this case, but I usually just do 8-24 hours, depending on when the dough goes into the fridge.
@MrHexior Жыл бұрын
I would add some more water to that flour. You would get much smoother surface. Your flour is thirsty as hell : P
@GrantBakes Жыл бұрын
Haha ok. Then I wouldn't have been following the Tartine recipe. Just trying to follow it to the T for this video :)
@jacquesletourneau36504 жыл бұрын
My dough is sticker than yours! Nice Video, Bravo!
@jacquesletourneau36504 жыл бұрын
Oups! Stickier!
@GrantBakes4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, sometimes depending on which flour I use it can be stickier or less sticky. Thanks so much for the nice comment!
@chergotian3 жыл бұрын
Hi. I really enjoyed watching your tutorial video, very relaxing & simple. I’m wondering why you didn’t spray with water to add steam as you bake in the oven? It means no water will still give steam? Hope to hear from you ;)