Graphical Fidelity Is Ruining Games

In this video I talk about graphics in games. Graphics are and always will be important, because I mean, without them we wouldn't see anything. Graphics allow develops to express their creativity making all kinds of amazing things. The problem is, the industry is becoming way too obsessed with making things as close to realistic as possible, and it's causing problems.
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[@Proxidist]

I love walking in a straight line in games while the characters talk!!!

[@peddlefiend8062]

aka the ubisoft virus

[@TexturedBumf]

MGSV hospital scene 🤮🤮

[@EldenPeasant]

Art style > Graphic.

[@MalikATL]

Might be a hot take but you can have both

[@clutteryguy9747]

Yep. There are so many great examples of this statement. Cant even say all of them

[@grizzly2297]

@@MalikATL such as prey

[@broghad8241]

@@grizzly2297 But Prey is shit

[@FH4Player6397]

​@@broghad8241 Ew incorrect opinion

[@Laxhoop]

I love how the games industry makes way more money than movies, and yet they keep wanting to be like movies.

[@gimmeyourrights8292]

They're the successful sibling trying to chase the glory of the unsuccessful sibling by trying to be more like them.

[@JCNL871]

games make more money but aren’t as culturally relevant (yet). It’s still pretty niche, probably due to the high cost of entry. But who hasn’t seen a movie…?

[@Jebeling710]

Rdr2's file size makes sense. COD's just bothers me at this point.

[@Based_Gigachad_001]

Just stop buying COD games.

[@Jebeling710]

@@Based_Gigachad_001 i don't and haven't in a long time. it still bothers me because it sets a standard that other AAA publishers will follow.

[@a_level_70_elite_raccoon]

Someone made joke about Baldur's Gate 3's file size like "what could possibly justify the 200 GB file size, 4k hair textures? lolol" I'm just sitting there like "There are quite literally millions of lines of dialogue in high quality audio, also the game itself has a billion lines of code that make it so you can take a BUNCH of different routes to get a reasonable conclusion to every quest. This isn't Fallout 3/4 where an NPC is just fucking IMMUNE because they're absolutely critical to the code's survival."

[@NicholasBrakespear]

@@a_level_70_elite_raccoon "There are quite literally millions of lines of dialogue in high quality audio, also the game itself has a billion lines of code" That's the thing though... Baldur's Gate 1 and 2, and the best written RPG ever - Planescape: Torment - didn't really need full voice acting. Just a sprinkle here and there so the player had a character's voice in their head. This was a highly efficient method of storytelling; not only allowing players to read through lengthy dialogue exchanges at their own pace, without feeling the need to "skip" the actual voice acted sequence, but allowing the developers to write and program dialogue trees with far greater speed (since adjustments didn't need to bounce back and forth and require additional studio sessions). As for the "billion lines of code" - speaking as someone developing a game where you can talk to any character and manually ask them about topics, which involves an internal drop-through of multiple sets of topics (specific quest stage responses, character-specific responses, region-specific responses, common responses, all with potential splitters for gender and class)... code is tiny. It's just text. In fact, here's a good example - I put my books in my game, readable in-game. I have a 600 page novel, and it takes up... 3.25MBs. And that's including the code for the table of contents, and the cover images. The obsession with fully-voiced characters damaged games as much as the obsession with cutting edge visuals - not only drastically increasing the install size, but also seriously impacting the development process, and stifling innovation in the genre.

[@Kiwi-Araga]

@@a_level_70_elite_raccoon The scripts aren't eating that much compared to other assets, but the audio files can be nearly half the size, or more than half the size of the entire game. Textures are coming in second place if they are going for some ultra realistic style with 4-8k diffuse maps and a bunch of other texture maps to achieve a realistic style.

[@lurientheenjoyer6711]

Whoever said prey looks bad should take an eye exam

[@tpkkr]

i tried to get my friend into prey.. but honestly i can understand why its hard game to get into.. also honestly watching some people play prey is painfull.. in good way.. you know watch somebody stuble.for 2 hours before exiting first area.. but then when they get to main lobby its different story.. sadly many quit before game really starts..

[@user-kb1su7mg1g]

looks a little worse than dishonoured

[@itstommymate]

Looks bad, in my opinion, for it has a bad art direction

[@JonnyHorseman]

The original mogs it in every way, not just in graphics

[@Atyir0Chaoschant]

@@tpkkr Idk its a matter of different tastes i really liked it because there was strong presence of Arkane magic like in the Dishonored series. They know how to make it fun.

[@Jago-pl7op]

I think Capcom is one of the AAA developers that strikes a good balance between detail and art style.

[@JonnyHorseman]

"Prey 2017" "Best game ever made" The 2006 game would like a word with you

[@Proxidist]

Sorry bro, all I can hear is MID

[@JonnyHorseman]

@@Proxidist Yeah, agreed. The 2017 game is indeed MID

[@NicholasBrakespear]

I mean, a better comparison would be System Shock 2. System Shock 2 remains the superior title, compared not only to Prey 2017, but BioShock.

[@friesforcats_9009]

You cannot compare the games at all. One is a doom clone and the other is an immersive sim and they are both made by completely different studios. They only share the same name because Bethesda really wanted to us that iP for something but otherwise they have zero relation to each other

[@TheBloodGamePL]

ngl the graphical limitation pushed devs to develop an art style for a game. In Ds1 the emptiness of the world helps set the mood of the Golden era long gone, the world is dead and hangs on strings. while DS3 just throws trash and barrels everywhere as if some battle took place even in a random village 5 minutes ago. I love ds3 but sometimes less means more, and they seem to go back to it in DLCs

[@NicholasBrakespear]

Agree - DS3 was visually disappointing. The eerie stillness of a doomed world was totally missing; replaced with constant clutter and activity. And in terms of negative space, and the signal to noise ratio... the visuals were awful. Technically competent, but in terms of artistic merit, there was no focus, just "stuff" everywhere.

[@animenightcores1502]

The more realistic the game is the more realistic fetish mods will become.

[@HistoryMonarch1999]

I blame reviewers who always, ALWAYS make the same “looks like a pS3 game” shit every fucking time.

[@Laxhoop]

I love 300 GB games. I love so much development time being spent on useless BS, that they have no time to compress the files.

[@mantraki]

I love when i can see the fractals of a bottle break in a realistic way whenever i shoot a it

[@lukasor9936]

Compressing files means it will have to decompress them while you play making the performance worse. It's either large size or poor performance for a lot of people these days.

[@Damian-cilr2]

@@lukasor9936 and the performance of many new aaa ganes is piss poor in the first place anyway so its either the game runs even worse or it takes 572512 gb on your hard drice

[@lukasor9936]

@@Damian-cilr2 depends on what you mean by poor performance, I have a mid rig, 3050 and some cheaper I7, bought it about 3 years ago and only had issues with Jedi Survivor on anything above medium and CS2. Other than that everything is above 60fps, most get above 144 and I don't need more.

[@DanteVerde-pt9zc]

I mean just look at how many dev teams work on CoD and you'll see why they don't have time to compress all this sh*t.. communication alone is a f*cking nightmare

[@itsMWMguys]

I grew up with Playstation all my life, I had the original XBOX, the PS3 and the PS4 and only recently did I get a Nintendo Switch and I've never been the same. I'm actually PLAYING games instead of running to a mission to watch a cutscene, only for me to run again to the next destination. I still enjoy my Uncharteds, and God of Wars, but now only as a kind of 'privilege' thing in the sense that if I ever just wanna play casually. I mean I've only owned Breath of The Wild for less than a year and I got three times the playtime compared to all my PS4 games combined that I've owned for years. I just wish my dad can realize this. He's always looking for the most realistic game on the market and complains why I am so into "baby games" on the nintendo.

[@chozochiefxiii3298]

I'm so sorry your dad can't realize you like good games. Keep enjoying the good games. 💪

[@thewrightone13jack]

I think it's a marketing thing. It's easy to say "Wow look at this! Ain't it pretty!?" Than a 40 page essay talking about the nuance of the gameplay.

[@jaysanj152]

Gonna be real here,Realism aren't ruining Video games Poor expectations,Bad video games and Massive bloated budgets are. There are equally bad games with great realistic visuals as much as bad awful games with great art style. But i don't see anyone blaming those nor remotely talks about those But sure lets all blame realism in video games when in reality it's never the visuals that was the major issue.It's always the budget and how bad the actual game really is and people's expectations. Like would you go around and say "Insert any realistic simulation game here" is crap because it's realistic and don't have an art style and the game play is boring while fully aware the game isn't made for you to begin with ? There are great games on every types and I like me some slow paced action/even walking sim games with realistic visuals and everything so long as the Story is good as much as I like some good ol fashion high octane action games with huge emphasis on game play,combat and has a distinct art style, People can enjoy both things and that's fine.

[@personalemail9329]

It's a low effort circle jerking on youtube blaming graphics just because people can't let go of their nostalgic and virtue signaling. You can write 300 page essay and they will still say "good graphics bad, unneeded, AAA bad".

[@johnyoung8745]

You can turn off the looting animation in Horizon

[@takashi6444]

Escape from Tarkov (sit in a bush, use three different items to heal a gunshot, die and spend 30 mins organizing your inventory simulator)

[@alcoholicgoat]

I don't think we need to exceed past the point of detail that RDR2 has. That's it. Stop pushing the benchmark. Things will taper out. Red Dead 2 is an amazing looking game. It looks like a PS5 title. If that game released today, nobody would complain. If you want to push fidelity, don't fly too close to the sun

[@Phirestar]

I love watching all the game event livestreams every year, like Summer Games Fest and whatnot. Every single time an indie game comes up on screen that has some kind of low-poly or pixel art aesthetic, there’s always a bunch of morons in the chat who are like, “Mobile game?” These people are really that deluded enough to think that everything on consoles / PC looks like RDR2.

[@Fmac117]

it also makes the pc market suffer because the more demanding a game is the less people can run it well. the worst feeling is downloading a game just to have a choppy or inconsistent framerate, maybe i do need to upgrade but i can run plenty of modern games perfectly fine.

[@gimmeyourrights8292]

That's why art style is far superior, why animate the exact sweat on a character's face when you could do some really cool environmental storytelling. It's exactly why Bioshock will age better than any new COD game because so much detail is put into their environments and you really get the impression of a world that once existed.

[@pouriajafarikia65]

Totally agree. Im tired of games having cool graphics just because. I hate how they are so bloated because the studios just want to flex how many 100h work weeks they had to put their devs through.

[@imnotusingmyrealname4566]

My PC is screaming for help with all these games that are impossible to run on anything but cutting edge hardware.

[@itstommymate]

The statement that every game that more game should use stylised graphics can lead to the same issue. There are only so many styles we can do sooner or later we will just run out of ideas of what kind of styles we can do. Another thing I want to say is I wish games really took their time in perfecting the gameplay of a video game and taking their time on graphics after, for I'd like to have a very good product of a fun game with great quality life, rather than spending more time on garbage tech demos. Crysis 3 is one of my favourite video games of all time. It has graphics WAY ahead of its time, and it was one of the first games to show off what we see on Modern Graphics. But unlike Walkingblade 2 and The Jogging Of Us, the gameplay was actually fun. The game had a great sandbox where I could place C4's on a dumpster, kick it to a group of enemies, and decimate it. Doesn't that sound more fun than just walking? It's great to have amazing graphics, but you gotta have fun gameplay as well.

[@burningsheep4473]

RDR2 has all these impressive little details, but somehow they decided that being 3rd person wouldn't be a problem for immersion? Same goes for that weird "You are leaving the mission area!" panic attack, that some modern open-world games suffer from. It's one of those really basic - but very impactful - failings that somehow were considered less important than adding more and more detail in other areas.

[@zooziz5724]

I've been saying same for years. There are many games that benefits from beautifully detailed graphic fidelity, I believe. That being said I really can't think of any except read dead redemption 2 where detail matters. All the rest of them could be swapped for stylized graphics and it would change a thing be it GTA or call of duty. I hate graphical fidelity it's bloat at this point, but I'm glad that theres plenty of Indy devs that are successful and eventually they will cross into a double A with some kind of art style that beautiful, stylized, easy to run and work on.

[@z01k1]

original dishonored with reshade looks amazing. Probably the most positively reshade affected game.

[@teenkitsune]

Dude, I've noticed this since I was a teenager, all the way back when the Xbox 360 wasn't even a year old, and it's driven me nuts ever since!

[@GUNMOFO5]

FEAR still looks great because they did the lighting and the effects so well and the gameplay being amazing! It's known as Monolith's Magnum opus for a reason.

[@crownedshyness9656]

Oh boy, I love walking simulators. I mean just look at the actor’s pores & nose hairs.

[@lukasor9936]

Hey! Firewatch was amazing so take that back

[@Jerry12533]

Me playing a html game: is this how it feels to read a book ?

[@Spidert4nk]

Something that also gets lost in the pursuit of graphical fidelity is the power of imagination. The human brain is amazing at embellishing reality when stimulated in the right ways. This is an effect we can see more prominently when remembering good times. If you look at all the Ellie's at 7:35 the girl at the very right is not the same girl as the other two, especially not the leftmost one. That's certainly not how I'd imagine a flesh and bone Ellie judging by the PS3 model. It's the same thing that happens when going from a book to a movie, or with any Live Action production of a cartoon/anime.

[@clutteryguy9747]

Incredible video! Agreed with pretti much everything. Keep up the great content :)

[@Teal_ST]

Realism does get a bit boring after while, atleast for me. It's impressive, hard to make, and times consumming yeah but after seeing it so much, I just kinda wish they went with a different their own art style sometimes :/

[@filip2210]

just go outside lmao that's enough realism

[@crushbeast29]

And here I am deliberately playing games like stay out of the house and murder house, because I love the janky, PS1 VHS 80s style of game. Great video proxidist!

[@Atyir0Chaoschant]

this is the exactly one of the reasons why i love borderlands...when you listen to Gabe Newel he talked about that exact same point realistic games are not that fun... its a paradox that in escapism lot of peeople trying to find realism...

[@RobertStoll]

I'd mostly like it if devs didn't try and pack so much rendering into everything from having the game populate the map with trees to generate NPC textures and dialogues. I know that Nvidia is a lovely business partner but I frankly would like my GPU to last more than a year.

[@Robocop_1987]

More games should be like the Yakuza series , they look great , have great main and side characters and more importantly fun gameplay .

[@user-eo2le3sv2w]

Can't lie. I do like how dome games make your character actually do stuff like open stuff up or grab objects because it's more immersive, and I think graphics are really cool to look at. It only comes a problem when the gameplay isnt fun and it's annoying to play. But overall I think gameplay first and everything else after

[@Zecuu]

Doom Eternal got robbed for real

[@yerderlol9314]

The only game im excited for this year is streets of rogue 2, cause the dev just shows actual early dev footage, and explains what the point of the games existence even is. "It's the Depth of the previous game you already like, except the level is now a small country" gives me a direct reason to be excited for the game, since it actually informs me exactly what the game is going to be, which is way more marketable and appealing since it almost guarantees an audience while "tHe JraViK iS gooD" just makes people wonder why the publisher doesn't want to talk about a game.

[@EvilRedPandaaTV]

i loved the detail in RDR2 for the whole game, couldn't stop looking at it and all the diff animations and interactions. but i think that was perfect for a game that is slower and has such plain environments, other games should focus on fun instead of detail

[@aibadenshi]

2004 Half Life 2 Graphic is better then whatever we had now.

[@natalialuca]

Yes

[@BigFatBoy447]

people are still waiting for a half life 3 20 years after half life 2 came out, I really doubt the same thing will happen for a game like horizon forbidden west, which is hellbent on perfect graphics, and nothing else.

[@ReshiramR52]

In other words, Nintendo was right all along

[@johnjohnson7743]

Here’s the thing, if everything was stylised, then that would be a problem, having some games go for realism whilst allowing others be stylised gives more diversity. Another note, you know what’s great about ps plus extra/premium and game pass… access to indies, where you don’t get the issues you’re stating

[@GrumpyCat97]

also these realistic graphics making your pc/console to blow up

[@kira516]

I want my console or pc to explode because of how much time and love i invest in that console, how i love playing with it, loving the game i played so much the console would just stop doing it. If that's how things gonna happen, I'd be proud rather than sad because it can't run COD for the 3rd time in a row

[@loopysuvivalist3684]

These videos are like crack to me, i need more

[@Phirestar]

Developers care so much about making their games look as realistic and believable as possible, yet the moment you watch the AI do _anything,_ the illusion is shattered. The enemies in The Last of Us - both the first and second titles - aren’t programmed to acknowledge your companions. You can watch Dina stand directly in front of a guy with a gun, and he won’t react to her existence. They want games to be “like real life”, but only when it’s convenient for the sake of gameplay. Because god forbid they invest into advancing the technology of artificial intelligence, which has largely stayed the same for probably _decades._

[@H0prince]

I keep going back to ps2, ps3 era games, I still play some modern titles but mostly older stuff, and my problem is that the gameplay did not really advance that much in the past 20 years or so, I still enjoy the original god of war trilogy much more than the modern ones for example, while they aimed to make the modern game more realistic they dropped the fun and amazement factor, and I'm not bothered with play the original shadow of classes for example since it has an art direction like no other despite the old texture and low res, and in my opinion, the remake, for example, take a lot of that art style away

[@nbc8944]

I dont think its graphics only it also the large amount of cut scenes...

[@skate2myhouse]

The ascent has an amazing art style. Everything is so clustered and full of details. ACG's made a a video about it. Its called walking the walk, amazing stuff

[@matthewhardwick8208]

I firmly believe that video games are a form of art. But I also expect a decent amount of gameplay.

[@predatorx760]

Was just playing prey 2017 again, and yes, it's one of my favourites, and I first played on epic games store on pc when it was free, and I couldn't stop playing and cause of all this fidelity and graphics debate I've been playing games from years ago I missed and the indie scene is great also have to mention playing hades again god that game is great

[@ElDo2K.3gp]

I bought a PS5 a couple years ago excited for some next gen games, completed Ragnarok and the Spider-Man games but when I tried the new AC games and borrowed Gotham Knights I got disappointed. Ended up playing and completing the Ezio Trilogy and the Arkham Collection I think the industry is trying to leave good gameplay and story telling behind to make realistic yet hollow games to appeal the mainstream audience which mostly buys COD every year and ignores the rest.

[@HorsingAroundAutomotive]

Im surprised Red Dead 2 was only on 2 disc. I have a copy of the witcher 3 complete edition and apparently it takes up half the space of RD2 but comes with 6 discs lol

[@lukaskolisek2208]

The Witcher 3 is on DL-DVDs, RDR 2 is on BRs.

[@samuelantoniocastillomeza5034]

Graphics and art direction have to cooperate to deliver something both great looking for years to come and also friendly with your storage device.

[@ducciomori46]

Literally the only “cinematic” game that i want to see come out at all costs is fucking Death Stranding 2, because it’s even more authorial then most others and even in terms of gameplay like it or not it’s simply an idea that modern AAA games wouldn’t think of doing at all

[@benmcreynolds8581]

I fully agree. This whole realism obsession is ruining games. They are better off going an unrealistic artistic route.I miss older game designs SO MUCH. All of these art styles & game types don't need to just disappear. All because game tech has advanced they act like video games are "progressing" It doesn't feel like video games are progressing? How can gaming be so out of touch with good artistic direction & game design? I don't know why there's such a lack of different types of games being made now? I just really hope console gaming wakes up and starts having fun again. Where we start seeing a bunch of games coming out again. Where we see games that aren't afraid of taking risks, embracing the crazy, embracing the wacky. Remember all the different types of previous games? They had so much success and gaming should be tapping back into that! I cannot stand this corporate, sanitized, clean room feel that a lot of these games from our current generation has. It basically feels like 95% of the game industry has been taken over by people who have no idea what a good game is because they don't play video games and didn't play games growing up. That's how a lot of games from our current game industry feels. Where THE Passion! We need to have passion make it's way back into game development in order for gaming to truly flourish. When I was growing up in the 90's, the future of gaming seemed amazing! It wasn't just about graphics. It was about physics effects, art styles, having a range of gameplay modes, gameplay mechanics, damage effects, environmental interaction, engaging AI to play against in single player mode, CPU bots in offline modes, just good AI in games campaigns. Current video games focus way too much on graphical nitpicking. It seems they forgot how much players enjoyed physics effects & other aspects that make games fun. Quirky graphics can work, if a creative art style is used. Add engaging CPU AI, gameplay modes, the list goes on.. idk what happened?

[@NicholasBrakespear]

While I would agree with the general sentiments concerning the unhealthy obsession with cutting edge visuals (and as an indie developer and a gamer in his 30s, I could write essays on the gameplay mechanics and technologies that existed in the 90s, that should be standard by now but aren't)... there's a reason people said Prey looked bad. And it's not because they're obsessed with fancy graphics. They said Prey looked bad, because the art style didn't land right. The general presentation, in fact, is one of the big reasons it didn't do so well. It had no edge. The art style of Dishonored worked, because it was very distinctive (although actually, even at the time, that game had issues with blurry, indistinct texturing that meant it looked nowhere near good enough to justify its system specs); it worked because no other game at the time looked quite like it, except perhaps Half-Life 2 (due to shared artistic influence); it worked because it made constant and excellent use of negative space, in every level. But when Prey came along, it tried to effectively use a similar art style, but didn't have the right hook; it didn't have the juxtaposition of the grim, austere city, beside its gilded, wealthier aspects, and colourful magical elements. It didn't have the slick late-fantasy steampunk vibe. It had... what can only be described as "sort of BioShock, sort of Dishonored", and lacked the visceral horror edge of its predecessors. Oh, as for Dishonored standing the test of time; you're doing a video about gameplay and art style over graphics... and talking about a game that was mechanically inferior to the old Thief games, demanded Windows Vista/Windows 7, and most certainly did not run well on a less than optimal machine.

[@pumpshotgun8992]

I think Doom 2016 and Eternal graphic problem lied in their style direction more or something like that

[@Cappuccino_Rabbit]

I always felt like this was kind of our fault as well, thanks to console wars we ended up hyping so much realism and graphics that it became the norm for Triple A games. On a positive note, at least Indie games and some AA games reminded us why "bad graphics" and suspension of disbelief can be great for artistic reasons.

[@user-yg7sh9fh2y]

I love you, Seal Man. May you get infinite fish and stay chonky. ❤️

[@mravg79]

1 minute in. I agree with the intro. The great graphics does not make a good game. Example I enjoyed more Thomas was alone for its story and gameplay even though the graphics were very simple, bu I did not enjoy the first game with quadruple A graphics quality The Callisto Protocol. It looked nice but didn’t have much more than that to offer.

[@HJManRants]

Gameplay and story (depending on the tone and genre) are the most and only important goal of publishing a game. Graphics should be a bonus, not the focus.

[@personalemail9329]

You can have neither good gameplay nor story and still have a good game. Everything is optional. Pokémon, FNAF Call of Duty MW series don't have either but are still successful and Pokémon is the biggest gaming franchise so i disagree with your opinion.

[@polskakaczka9373]

I love games that are realistic cuz i can admire it while listening to the dialog(rdr2, gowr, got) but all games shouldnt be like that cuz that would basicly kill indie games developers who cant afford these graphics

[@asharusman8414]

Make video about silent hill 2 remake trailer gameplay review

[@RicardoPagan-jl4sp]

The new astro bot game is the first vidya that's got me excited in a while. It looks gamy and actually fun

[@triton5336]

Games like Ghost of Tsushima and Horizon mix stylized look with high fidelity. To be honest most people just want to see something they have never seen before where as art style is purely subjective as art in museums are. It's hard to make it a selling point, example is a game like Scorn that had great art direction and graphics but no one actually cared about the art direction as much as the fidelity. (Also you can turn off the looting animations in Horizon, most of the time you have more than enough unless you are near the beginning.)

[@lexus8018]

In an ideal world graphics would have froze around 2017-18 and the last 6 years of game development should have focused on expanding size and interactivity.

[@DaSSWon]

It’s literally why bloodborne and dark souls( I think) still look good today. Bloodborne is one of the best looking games came out 9 years with not that many polygons

[@JCNL871]

Imagine what would be possible if someone made a game that had the graphics from ~2010 but today’s budget…

[@yxvngghxst8877]

Cyberpunk required 2 disks as well and it’s weirdly small lasti check without dlc. Also the new black ops is apparently 300gbs. I also expect red dead fidelity from rockstar. Prey was f***ing fire I love Arkane.

[@natalialuca]

Great Vid I really dont Like when the graphics are to "good" because Not everybody has a PC with a RTX Card thats why i Love simple graphics Like in Half Life 1 and 2 or Portal. When the graphics are extremly realistic then fewer people can Play it because they dont have the best PC in the World with the best Storage to even Download the Game. And also can you maybe make a vid to prey its a great Game and you Talk about it in every Video Thanks

[@DarthMcDoomington]

For the most part I agree, there is one surprising exception though, and it's Facepunch's upcoming (in like, five years at best) "SPIRITUAL SUCCESSOR TO GARRY'S MOD" (according to their marketing, but all the info they've put out about it makes it sound more like a ROBLOX/Unity competitor), S&Box (pronounced "sandbox", as if people aren't just going to call it "ess and box" to make fun of it). The reasons for that however are because... 1. THEIR ARTSTYLE IS FUCKING DOGSHIT and not in a good way but in an unintentional uncanny valley way. The default player model has a cartoony design, but it's got weird, realistic textures and shading and everything else I've seen is realistic looking. 2. This is honestly one of the few games that logically SHOULD be and would BENEFIT FROM acting as a tech demo, Facepunch clearly want to compete with FUCKING UNITY, which is a LITERAL FUCKING GAME ENGINE. How do I know this? Many of their updates are about how their features will make the game easier for Unity devs. The reason I bring this up is because well, the default player model is only one aspect of the game, but it's one that's inherently going to be fucking omnipresent, especially if Facepunch really do want it to be a spiritual successor to Garry's Mod in which case most mods are gonna be based around the default player model which is genuinely unsettling to look at (and this fucker's going to even be in the main menu, you're gonna have to deal with it if you play).

[@fabiobaldan556]

Couldnt agree more!

[@Siilk70]

I would choose the atomic heart loot animation over any other that shit is quick an well made

[@raseli4066]

When i grew up you had two to four disks for the instalation and one for multiplayer too. Graphics doesnt make the game, its just the icing to me. If a game isn't fun, why bother

[@keqet12]

Also don't forget the fact that more and more modern games struggle to run on even the highest end machines without DLSS. So you have a choice of an actually good loking game with 30 fps or 60 fps but the game is a blurry mess

[@pedrotzexpacial3612]

Yes

[@SigtryggrWithWhiskers]

Where do games like silent hill 2 fall? That is one of the best looking games I have ever seen in my entire life, every single room, no matter how irrelevant, is filled to the absolute brim with detail and the effects like real time shadows and that beautiful fog are still unmatched.

[@foxyelclonpirata5039]

And the most ironic part it's that it is that way becouse they didn't wanted to go for absolute realism, but an artistic choice, a lot of games of the Ps2 are still absolutely beutiful despite the pass lf time becouse when they were making them, they choose to go for a more unique style rather than a realistic one

[@NicholasBrakespear]

"every single room, no matter how irrelevant, is filled to the absolute brim with detail" But not the corridors. Let's be brutally honest - the Silent Hill series loves its conspicuously empty and prolonged corridor sequences.

[@iurysaraiva3411]

really 2012 was the end of something

[@vex8535]

art and lore

[@Ragucci25]

What's ruining games is gamers. Elitist mindsets of performance, gamer putting constant pressure on devs, it's our fault.

[@inkchariot6147]

Modern games are too focused on being movies than being games.

[@DashMatin]

Fun Gameplay, Amazing Art Direction & Style, Good Performance, Optimization, + Story > ReAlIsTiC gRaPhIcS

[@user-hd7cn7rg9c]

Gameplay>story>art>fidelity If story ain't good I can't play it longer If gameplay itself ain't good but story is then i am forced to play against my will. Then its not really an entertainment

[@3L_B4R7O]

Sad but true

[@filip2210]

quake is a game whose graphics are so dated it doesn't matter because all that matters in that game is the atmosphere that you get from it

[@mehdimb676]

RDR2 is one of the few games that has an actual good reason to be this large

[@michaeljimenez2057]

(The whole entirety of this video): Said Noone ever

[@ACTUALbean3PO]

Classic abiotic factor W

[@satanspy]

As an owner of a 4k 240 hz oled and a RTX 4090 i disagree.

[@friesforcats_9009]

Sounds like justification for poor spending decisions

[@satanspy]

@@friesforcats_9009 sounds like poverty telling you that 1080p and 60fps is "good enough".

[@friesforcats_9009]

@@satanspy not everyone wants to spend $2000 on a pc and this is coming from a cs major. Those specs are utterly unnecessary

[@admirajachas8058]

I have my own example, disco elysium vs the last of us 2, both games from 2019 in 10 years Disco elysium will still look great thanks to stylized graphic, when tlou2 will look like shit in comparison to modern games

[@henseltbrumbleburg3752]

This is why I don't like the word 'realistic' I think it distracts from the illusion that games are. Authentic, I think is a more adept word for it. Like having to craft each and every bullet in RDR2 is 'realistic' but is it fun? what does it actually contribute? Even then all you're doing is pushing a button, it's tedious and not fun. If being Authentic was the goal, I believe you would have a system that would replicated the feeling of real life without actually trying to replicate it.

[@Joshua-do7vo]

Doom Eternal was 100% robbed, it's been four years and I'm still upset about that.

[@broghad8241]

Shut up

[@luc.mp4_]

ELDEN RING MENTIONED RAHHHH

[@Vextonomy]

Cheese

[@theonlyethanhiroshiki]

Spend too much time on trying to make the game look beautiful that they have no time spending time on other things that would make the game better as a whole. Graphics thrown here, graphics thrown there, what a mess.

[@nemtudom5074]

The sad truth is, that we're the minority. There's millions of smoothbrain *consumers* who dont interact with anyone on any social site, come home, buy the next AAA shovelware, and move on, and we cant even change their minds because we cant reach out to them either

[@burritoTv]

realistic graphics are just boring. why would i want a game to look like real life if i'm trying to escape it through the help of video games

[@Samurix16]

As cool as red dead two is I got very bored because it is way too simulation everything has an animation. Story and visuals are amazing but the gameplay I did not like.