Gray Zone’s MOST Important Weapon Stat Is Not Visible

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[@birkanzengin8883]

with tier 1 vendors you can also change the charging handle to f1(from gunny) for -2% reload time and if we have artisan you can buy rk-4 or rk-0 for better stats with m-lok 9 you can attach it to your m4 also mod grip have better stats for level 2 m4 thx for video

[@CycloidalHeadache]

Doing the lords work out here for the newbies 🙏 I learned most of this the hard way but I’m glad you’re sharing it bc it’s not very straightforward at all. Not that it should be in a sort of pseudo-milsim game but information is good.

[@Metaltactical]

If ballistics are realistic, always use M193 over FMJ as it's the same projectile but M193 is loaded to a higher velocity.

[@cerciousvontevour8455]

This is what I've been using. It's penetrated IIIA and IIIA+ just fine so far.

[@CapFlipGaming]

Another KZbinr has done testing and says the standard FMJ is better than M193. I guess I'll have to test both myself.

[@alexmaurice4274]

How do yall make money in this? I struggle and die a lot and only way of getting any money seems to be tasks

[@cerciousvontevour8455]

@alexmaurice4274 I'm currently experimenting. Guns cost me the most when I die so I'm focusing on taking a back pack right now that's 5 slots high. Take magazine or of gun you find, take grip off, and it fits in 1x5 depending on gun/ barrel design. Can get about 5k in guns and another few hundred in attachments. Keep attachments that you normally buy so as not to have to buy again, same with guns. Sell everything else.

[@nickkurcinak3113]

@@alexmaurice4274 Go to Hunter's Paradise, bring a large backpack. Take every weapon sight from an ak, and always take an enemy pistol since it fits into your empty pistol slot. If the enemy has the CQA1 right, click on the enemy's gun, and go to the part called CQA1 upper, and click detach. Take all the uppers from those guns, and any weapon sights from every other gun. After a while you should have a few of the keys from this location, open up the loot boxes and see if you can get any good whole guns full of attachments. There's a cash register in the outdoor cafe area, I've gotten $140 and $780 on different occasions. Rinse and repeat. You will also pull whole guns that are worth keeping for yourself, good armor sets, ears, helmets backpacks, etc. You can acquire full gear sets or just sell it all. I've brought back over $2k almost every time. It's also a decent place to farm grenades but I jus got into the habit of throwing them to learn the arc.

[@OutboundFlight87]

Multiple AK top rails exist in game. The B33 dust cover and dogleg dust cover

[@imprxvize9671]

Dogleg stays on top fr. You can use it w the ak hand guard from artisan, that allows grips. The b33 you can only use w the polymer hand guard

[@paragonca9736]

16:05 i will say, the MOD grip (the tan one) is just a straight upgrade to the Torque grip. Better stats all around.

[@z34rk79]

There are quite a few changes that was missed in this, the mod grip is the best level 2 grip, the dd buttstock is also better, the low profile gas block is good but the JPGS gas block is the best to grab .... for the foregrip, depending on your choice of recoil or other, tge RVG is the best, UTG is a good choice also, if you have the money the first m4 in the level 2 gunny, grab the X looking handguard (forgot the name) on it and make sure you have at least a 16" barrel ..... if done correctly you can get an average of +32 recoil reduction up to +35 depending on your choice

[@SirKarrotKake]

YES! Just the thing I needed. Gigabeef giving the best of weapon information for Gray Zone 👌

[@baja1559]

It’s so funny that since all the attachments bsg used are real life products that gz can just use all of the same ones from tarkov

[@Metaltactical]

I just wish that MFG (and BSG, for that matter) would make the good/meta attachments align more closely to high quality ones IRL. EFT has tons of absolute airsoft tier alibaba crap that is as good or better than high quality legit gear that costs 5x-10x as much IRL. Haven't seen that issue in GZW too much but already things like the "Nylon M4 stock" being an upgrade over the standard seems like a stretch.

[@aquifer9480]

Most weapons companies love free marketing through video games.

[@h1tsc4n40]

​@@Metaltacticali'm not sure why they didn't make the "better" M4 stock just a Magpul MOE. But yeah that's a gripe i have with tarkov too. It's hilarious that BSG thinks the skeletonized grips are any good, those things are pretty much tailor made for airsoft and larpers.

[@lockmanni1619]

@@Metaltacticalalso the crappy skeleton grips beeing better then pretty MOE grips, trigger me 🥲

[@ds6899]

​@@h1tsc4n40 they do, I have a tan SOPMOD stock

[@jrey800]

0:49 you should have shown the JPGS gas block. If you want a stable M4A1 with level 2 gunny parts, use the DD stock, the JPGS Gas block, the SCH charging handle, any RIS2 grip, the SF3P device that is compatible with the RC-1, MOD-G Pistol Grip (the goldish looking pistol grip that's $68), and I like to use the red dots I pull of the CQA1's that bots have.

[@randyb4191]

im just here to boost non eft content

[@TheVirtualOz]

Based

[@EL34XYZ]

@Gigabeef Isn't the Mod pistol grip better than the Torque? Also, the JPGS gas block seems to have better stats than the low profile gas block.

[@zacknowlin3214]

Do all this and you’ll still get one tapped by a gangster with a Cold War era submachine gun

[@RadzzzAU]

Hey Giga - awesome video as always! I was playing around with some stuff, and initially I thought the same as you as far as buffs and nerfs go with attachments. But I suspect that for reload time +% is a benefit, conversely a -% is a negative. For example a 30 round mag negatively affects the weapon more than a 10 or 20 round mag will, and a silencer negatively affects handling but improves recoil. I've built my weapons around this idea, plus considering your info on the hidden stats and they do seem to subjectively feel better. I'd be interested to see if you or others come to the same conclusion?

[@Spartan536]

For starters the first town HPBT works just fine, you can also just use M193 Ball which is the round that was used by US forces in Vietnam, its a 55 grain FMJ that is designed to tumble inside the target so its tissue damage should be decent within 200m. M193 is also very high velocity and should work just fine against Level II - IIIA with no issue. M855 is good against Level III with M855A1 being good at penetrating Level III+ which is the games current maximum as I have yet to see level IV in game.

[@user-ww1nt3qh7k]

Great job with the video! Helped me a ton!

[@thrashmatic]

can't wait to see how the weapons stats / mod interactions gets flushed out as they work on the game.

[@goukisf3116]

I tried a bunch of foregrips and other items to check for stamina drain and so far the M4 I'm running is always 20s of ADS duration which makes me wonder if something isn't just broken with the attachments.

[@michealnelsonauthor]

Gg for you & the whole (formerly) Tarkov streamer base for finding Anything else to explore for a week or 2 so far. I predict the week after next Tarky wipe will be dead compared to the usual flood.

[@donoteatmikezila]

That you didn't put a dust cover on that AK had my brain itching. Mr. Beef, please. I'm begging you.

[@Special1Guy]

Need to add dust cover for more stats on the AKMN, as well as charging handles for AR's giving more reload speed even level 1

[@fastgamingchannels7024]

Nice keep these builds coming :)

[@TheBodomite]

So are the stats percentages additive or multiplicative? The gun stat lines would imply additive, but since it doesn't even show recoil reduction I'm asking.

[@FrostyDeSwoleMan]

So glad we finally have a good game with realistic weapons and attachments that im not forced to play against cheaters and hackers. Good content man, I’m now subscribed.

[@mortekaieve4729]

I feel like the weapon handling is more to do with the sway while ADS rather than your actual ADS speed, but I'm not 100% sure on it. The longer barrels are a huge difference, they are much more accurate at range and when you get later in the game and are looking for more armor pen the higher velocity seems to make a huge difference in kill time.

[@jarek94cze]

I can't use the Specter sight because when I ADS in combat I get stutters and my FPS drops to half.

[@MrPniakoLS2011]

There is atleast 2 ak top rail dust covers: pdc and b-33 and one of them you can loot of sawmill boss

[@codexnecrogeddon]

Are there attachments to reduce the sway for the Mosin (not with the PU scope) and M700? I've tried several scopes on both of them and any zoom past 1x is almost unusable unless you hold breath.

[@h.c5750]

Dude don't sleep on the PU scope it works very very well

[@codexnecrogeddon]

@@h.c5750 Yeah but it's only 3x. I have scopes that go up to 18x

[@Skusty]

I have been rocking the black AK74 you can buy from Turncoat (I think it is?) lvl 1, been feeling great.

[@michaelklog]

longer barrel less moa goes from 2.15 to 1.83. if you get 20' barrel from loot or at gunny 3 maybe then you get a moa of 1.11 and 20% muzzle velocity.

[@GoodboiOfficial]

level 3 gunny only sells 18" barrel. But he does sell a modded MK18 for about 8K that has a 20" installed.

[@jdmdang]

really good video wish i knew this from the start lol all good advice

[@MamaEmMedia]

I can confirm that there is a dust cover for the AKs that has a rail, idk if it's the Bastion like Tarkov but I have found one on an AI I killed in Blue Lagoon, idk what level it might be available at the trader

[@poisonouslead85]

It's probably the Texas Weapon Systems Dog Leg.

[@mfgCarlos]

Pro Tip, at lvl 2 Gunny, the first M4A1 has a X7M-15 Handguard that u can not buy at him.

[@foxtrot_casademos5456]

On artisan yo can buy the BP -02 and mount a red dot sight or a sniper sight on it if you have an AK 47

[@rainbowkittysix4718]

For L1 M4 you can take the top rail thing off and put a scope on

[@Jonhicks1984]

What are the base stats for the weapons? if the value is already low to begin with, percentage based increases are less effective than those guns with higher values. at that point I feel the only value is the ability to add attachments such as lasers, lights and scopes.

[@GarfyB]

great vid thanks man

[@h1tsc4n40]

Correction, there is a PDC dust cover with a rail for AKs. I don't know if any traders sell it, but it can be looted from enemies.

[@yankeehunter3466]

You can put a EO Tech on AKM from artisan you will just need BP-02 Mount

[@bricktopgaming5750]

you missed the best pistol grip for the m4 in your level 2 gunny build the best pistol grip available is the MOD pistol grip (FDE) to the left of the MOE grip its the best stats wise until you can purchase the daniel defence one for the mk18 and is available from gunny level 2

[@luciano12sa]

0.25 speed at 4:36 you can see the difference a little better. At 50 more meters you would probably miss a lot of those shots. But then again, you should be using semi auto for anything beyond 100m anyway.

[@dididigit5877]

Are you sure arm stam drain needs to be negative? Doesn't arm stand drain determine how long you can ADS for before losing arm stam which would mean you need arm stam drain to be + so you can ADS for longer

[@Mondochiwan]

The stat reduces the rate at which the stamina drains. Less drain is good.

[@SlumLord-]

Just like recoil time needs to be negative to be better. It’s weird but it makes sense.

[@JingMitsuyamaCH]

Visibility is not the most important for sure but when your vegetation looks like they were made for a 1st graders diorama project it’s the most important to me 😂

[@thekids_callmeboss6577]

The lvl 1 gunny m4, should I put acog on it ?

[@aquifer9480]

Its all up to you, theres lanes in the starter towns that make it nice to have but I ran the Eotech till Gunny 2 (first lv 2 trader you'll get) who sells the Spectre.

[@thekids_callmeboss6577]

@@aquifer9480 thx im not at lvl 2 yet :)

[@fennoman9241]

ACOG is kinda meh in the game tbh, if you are willing to walk the few kilometers to your medium tier area, you can get Aimpoint T-1´s and other 1x sights especially from YBL.

[@arcticowl1091]

I have never seen this game before, why the hell does that glock have more recoil than a 500 magnum smith and wesson revolver

[@fuckoff4705]

its in early access and the pistols are kinda wonky

[@Shotgunwizard91]

recoil reduction is what boosts recoil control. can literally watch the numbers change...

[@hoshxhosh]

Built the guns. Disconnected. Reconnected. Loadout wiped. Sigh

[@justing436]

What about the muzzle brake

[@zakhoyt7771]

very strange that they left out certain parts for customization like triggers and for the love of god why are there no bipods. :(

[@alteredpercy5543]

Ok the fact we can’t see the amount of recoil control on our guns is kinda wack. If it’s so important that just a change in gas block and barrel attachment can drastically change the feel of a weapon we need to be able to *see* that at a glance. Been really enjoying this game so far but some of these design missteps are frustrating to say the least hahaha

[@LittleDanny9899]

Yhea all in all Mooding in Generall still needs a QOL makeover biggest annoyance to me was if you Open a Weapon (inspect) it shows you all parts that fit on it in a Orange color Exept only from your Inventory not from the Trader himself

[@paragonca9736]

​@@LittleDanny9899 it seems like with the M4 at least, it shows compatible attachments in the vendor inventory too. Not sure if it works for other guns though

[@delarosa6254]

im new to this type of game and the detail to gun build is amazing . i was going for a game out of my element and boi did it go far out of my element.

[@delarosa6254]

i just love how you build a gun as if its a puzzle . like nah this just fits here and then that here . and magic you got a gun hehe lol

[@Bona-st7go]

there is a top rail for the aks

[@IllDieAlone0818]

Arm stamina drain doesn’t work

[@seagulTajin]

i think it does but I believe the weight of the weapon has a much bigger impact on that.

[@sebleonard8273]

I find it dumb that you can't make the og classic GWOT M4 SOPMOD from Gunny 1

[@brydro1505]

they dont even sell the sopmod stock at any trader level, yet you can see the AI in base walking around with it its so infuriating that they stock the vendors with dogshit stocks that no one uses IRL (not including the ctr) and a bunch of hypebeast tier accessories

[@suparosc02]

The AK is currently bugged, the only weapon worth buying until it gets fixed is the M4, don't bother with anything else...

[@thuil1]

Elaborate?

[@Z0mbie432]

please show frames there is in game frame counter

[@joeblack5701]

You totally skipped over the better gas block to start your video.

[@naquavionfuller9048]

fix recoil…

[@Mithrral]

Just go ahead and start covering this game please since Tarkov is dying.

[@ianmont9610]

There's next to no content covering this game will only take a few vids

[@andrewboyer4665]

Arm stamina drain NEEDS to be POSITIVE! You won't start noticing it until like +13% or so, but at +13% you get 24 seconds of ADS time. Stop spreading misinformation please Mr. Big Streamer Boy.

[@PLAYER2035]

This game is already dead

[@h.c5750]

How's that?

[@THELEMONMANSSTAND]

Im so bored of this game already

[@aquifer9480]

Wait till next wipe.

[@laxx2542]

cool story, stop playing then

[@cyberthreat7735]

look everyone , someone wanted to express their opinion while watching a build guide. Fn Troll

[@NoisR]

Youre doing something wrong or the game just isnt for u. I played 60 hours so far and i love it.