Gray Zone Warfare Will Redefine Extraction Shooters

Tactical extraction FPS Gray Zone Warfare is really intense and features some insane graphics, but how does it play?
#grayzone

[@iknowyounot88]

This is the first game ive seen that gets the weapon viewmodels and FOVs right. FPS have stuck in the SD era, destroying great weapon models and sights by placing it slammed up in your face making the sights huge. Not to mention innaccurate sight zoom/fov.

[@charlesmayer2047]

Ready or not and arma are good at this too

[@deserteagle498]

True

[@ninocarachilo6660]

My biggest gripe right now involving this game is the comments people are making about this game. I want them to stop comparing this game to tarkov and a "tarkov-killer", cause it isnt and quit comparing this game to it. Let the game be its own thing and quit trying to make everything about your fix for a tarkov alternative. The second is people claiming they want more PVP. Its obvious how many people have not done any research and werent interested in this game until popular tarkov streamers started playing. The devs have said thats its a PVEVP, with combat against AI being the main focus. Stop trying to make the game dive into something that isnt needed if they do it right with their vision. We dont need a game focused on PVP, if you want that go play tarkov or any other shooter out there. It just pisses me off seeing people rip into a game in its alpha phase and have no idea the vision the devs have without including their own tarkov objective and trying to make a game like it.

[@Holt0216]

Do we need ANOTHER extraction shooter tho….

[@ninocarachilo6660]

@@Holt0216 thats like saying do we need another COD game? Battle Royale? Roguelike? Its not needed but having some other variety is nice. Gray Zone Warfare is doing something that is different from the other extraction shooters, but i hate its comparison to tarkov that people seem to make that connection for some reason. Let this game be its own thing and give us a different experience. Its only in alpha too so let it breathe and let time allow them to polish the game.

[@Holt0216]

@@ninocarachilo6660 we don’t need another COD, and tarkov is objectively a terrible game…. But maybe this can replace it…. Maybe….

[@spectre3492]

You said this game 3 times in one sentence

[@theguanacopals3693]

​@@Holt0216 is it objectively a terrible game? Are you sure about that? The game the OBJECTIVELY created the extraction genre that still lives when others have fallen. Lol

[@luked4043]

I hope they get the customization to an insane level and improve the AI.

[@TechnicalGamingChannel]

I know they're probably doing it to ensure good visibility but I really hope different times of day/weather systems are planned because the flat midday lighting isn't doing the game a ton of favors visually. Like I think the reason a lot of people feel it has a generic art style is because the lighting is so flat and neutral. Game needs a little bit of lighting spice.

[@raptonsoul2557]

I think they said it's in the pipeline, but nothing is currently being done for it especially at launch

[@trashcompactorYT]

They already confirmed weather will be both a visual and gameplay-altering mechanic so this is a nonissue

[@A5tr0101]

That definetly needs to be added tbh

[@MoustacheMedic]

They have said they eventually want to have a monsoon season and flood parts of the map along with heavy rain. So many games lack a weather cycle so I hope they can pull this off.

[@Venerateee]

The Day/Night cycle is planned to release with the first major content update ~6 months after EA release. It will be accompanied by NVG's, IR Strobes, Flashlight/Lasers, etc. In addition to those, it is also planned to release with the electrical system. If you remember from the first batch of Creator videos last month, there were light switches and breaker boxes. The system is there, just not yet implemented.

[@highendfive]

@levelcapgaming - the comms piece seems similar to typical radio systems. you can't continuously broadcast IRL, so what we do to combat that in practical settings is keep what you're saying brief and to the point, and if its a longer report or broadcast break up the communication by inserting "breaks". awesome video btw thank you for the preview, looks fun!

[@paulmartinek1716]

The sight pictures are realistic, the problem is you cant really render Stereoscopic Vision in a 2D space like a monitor, the Eotech pretty much disappears and the dot is just on the dude IRL yea there is an optic body that you can still see but it feels a lot less invasive when you have two eyes. This is a gameism but at the end of the day they still look great! Sights are not supposed to take up your entire vision, you are supposed to be able to aim and still see what is going on around you. If anything the blur effect is kinda annoying. It looks like they have done an amazing job recreating what it feels like to be a soldier on the ground, those include long walks and massive amounts of boredom with brief moments of pure terror. Love it, I hope to see a community that is working together to make this game one hell of an experience!

[@luked4043]

I really dig that feedbag about looting and bag size.

[@brethnew]

They should have backpack patches you can customize, that way you can tell if it’s friend or foe if you look well enough

[@brainkale]

You should check out Ghosts of Tabor which is VR Tarkov. Graphics of course come nowhere near flat screen games but the immersion is unparalleled

[@-Arv]

I remember watching one of your videos of how games can implement realistic ADS view as of how it works when you look through diffrent sights IRL. Im shocked that most modern tactical shooters don't use this, atleast as an optional ADS feature if you want to maximise the immersion. This is definitely one of those games where it should be an option for such a feature.

[@Breath310]

It would be an eye sore. Think about it, maybe if we can toggle it like motion blur I’d be about it but it would look strange I think

[@anthonyosorio212]

People are comparing the state of this game to Tarkov when Tarkov has been in beta for nearly 8 years when this game is in pre-alpha. The point of these tests is to receive feedback so the devs can fix it. Im looking forward to this game as it seems like a somehwhat easy to pick up extraction shooter.

[@Anime2077ttv]

They don’t give streamers pre alpha games allowing them to stream gameplay This is beta

[@m.kingery]

In terms of microphone cutoff, how long can I play Fortunate Son as we get lifted around the jungle?

[@ExcessiveDrip]

Looks like doing chores with a small gun in your hand. Map visually looks good tho.

[@psyanidemcpsy6501]

Not having much inventory space was my largest issue and disappointment tbh. When buying guns and equipment cost a pretty big percentage of available starting cash, going out and scavaging some extra guns, ammo and supplies is a must but you can't do that very effectively at the moment. I don't think I want tarkov levels of inventory (or potential inventory space) but the ability to haul a few guns and mags, food and meds would be a very welcome change because atm you pretty much have to decide if you're in need of more meds, food or ammo... i mean my 4 pocket slots are almost always taken up with meds, my rig is always full of mags, so it's my ruck that has to take spare ammo and food which then limits what supplies I can haul back. Would be nice if the backpacks had inventory slots simulating pockets like in tarkov, so sure you can only fit 2 guns but you can slip a few mags in a front pouch and ammo or meds in side pockets etc. Atm it just feels like backpacks only have the main volume available when that isn't how they work... but hey, early access and it's only been in development for a year, lets see how well the devs cook.

[@totallymojo]

Looks awesome. But they really need a "lowered gun" animation state. You cannot run around for hours holding your weapon in that position.

[@fokyewtoob8835]

I guess that would be good to set as a key bind or something but one thing I don’t want is for it to be like DayZ where you have to aim your weapon after you raise it which can be annoying especially if gunfights are the main mechanic or one of them in the game

[@bghiggy]

How are you seeing your Reticle? It looks like it's off

[@syitiger9072]

That is super realistic for not knowing friends and enemies

[@Geekinofflife]

didnt i just read levelcap called this a asset flip last year...lmao

[@CNM3]

That eotech sight has the dimmest setting, is it adjustable?

[@TerribleGamesTV2]

PID is important, so i like the fact that there aren't any waypoints over friendlies

[@joeypedone3952]

From mobile, the holo sights look fine. In irl, You'll have a better fov the further away your optic is from your face, up until the end of the receiver. It's fairly common to see in most builds

[@IRoNaLdoCR7]

yea, I dont understand why so many people prefer it shoved into your eyes. especially in a game like this, peripheral vision is pretty important

[@bghiggy]

They could make the sight slightly transparent so it's like you're shooting with both eyes open

[@FreelandersCZE]

And what do you expect when Czech developers are working on it? Some of them worked at Bohemia In. (ARMA and Operation Flashpoint). We have only skilled developers in our country, for example authors of Mafia or KDC 😊

[@CMDR_Big-M]

15:52 A wild Mikee appears \o/

[@Paxotrials]

Level cap, any talk of when an open beta may be coming our way? Understandable them having a lot on there plate

[@IRoNaLdoCR7]

I prefer the weapon size and viewmodel as it is. better than having your gun in your face basically and only seeing the barrel like in ground branch or having those goofy looking, bulky viewmodels like BF2042...

[@CornFed_3]

It looks terribly modeled. It’ll be adjusted prior to launch, virtually guaranteed.

[@theshawnmccown]

It doesn't look like they've added gun weight and turn speed limitation. I remember when ARMA 2 had that and people kept claiming it was lag when the developers said it was simulating realistic movement speed. I wish studios making FPS would ignore the complainers and fully simulate realistic body movement and even fatigue for lifting various weapons. I get tired of seeing player movement that is as fast as they can move the mouse. Does it have variable walk speed using the mouse wheel, like with Star Citizen? That feature alone makes SC so much nicer to use than a lot of FPS controls.

[@theredexpresss6629]

local events and random enemy patrols would be badass, they need to add vehicles and make it arma antistasi

[@diabolicaldoodle]

Hey @LevelCapGaming any news of this coming to console?

[@drew9084]

Is this only on pc? will it come to ps5?

[@szabjack3734]

Appreciate the work and effort the devs have put into this game but not sure this is gonna have a place on the market by the time it releases, Tarkov will have been around for quite some time with more content and stuff. I know the two are not identical but people who wanna play these hardcore extraction shooters are likely a smaller community. Not sure there is a demand for same-ish shooters as Tarkov but we shall see.

[@theknownoneongoogle514]

What specs are u using to run Gray Zone Warfare.

[@kingkole6179]

There should be a regular sprint that slowly drains stamina like a jog and then the tactical sprint for dire situations. I feel like that would make the stamina system less annoying and it would be more realistic because as an operator you're not going to always be a a full sprint when you want to move a little faster.

[@fokyewtoob8835]

They should add drones into this game as well. They are a huge and evolving part of modern warfare and hope to see them in some shape or form in this game

[@MrSnrSquishy]

I think the sight issue and the gun size issue are pretty much the same thing. If you increase the size of the gun on the screen by moving it close to the pov you also increase the sight pictures. The guns do look a bit far away.

[@d3po989]

If they allow modding this game will be a great content creator for milsim

[@charlie.gustafsson]

The devs need to watch your ADS optics video.

[@MarvinBoydCo]

The rendering of the optics is relatively correct aside from the footage of the Eotech holo looks very dim which is incorrect but the acog being small and also hard to shoot out of is pretty much exactly how it is in real life. At least they didn’t mimic the terrible eye relief in the acog as well. Overall if you could adjust placement of the optic like in ground branch that would be ideal cause then the work around would be (just like in real life) bring the optic closer.

[@RiderStudioGames]

I don't know how big this issue is going to be, but the bitrate of the video and also streaming (in the future) his hurting with the foliage of the jungle... Like, will people enjoy watching videos/streams of the game when they mostly see blurred images? The person playing will not have this issue, but I guess only the future will tell

[@ReeceJ124]

WE NEED NIGHT TIME AND NIGHT VISION

[@muzamilnabinadroo]

One of the devs hinted in Discord about 'Night Missions' who knows what that exactly means.

[@jacobstewart3428]

Perfect timing with the release of Civil War

[@benthompson9517]

The amount of people white knighting this game is crazy! I was excited for an experience like this too, but it seems they have focused too much on certain details and forgot about gameplay. While it may look pretty for some cinematic shots, this map design is a terrible choice. Environments such as this are well know for being confusing to navigate, with no notable features or landmarks. This creates the situation of constantly checking the map rather than navigating by eye. Now add in the sheer amount trees and bushes to this hard to navigate, PVP situation and you will soon see the frustration. All the advantage is to the campers, and good luck trying to explain to your teammate which bush just sniped you. Not hear to argue if that's realistic or not but may want to ask if that's what you want to play?

[@Anime2077ttv]

I totally agree, the people defending this game at all cost against the most minor criticism is crazy

[@waterw0rld1]

i dnno bout you but i dont put my sights up to my eye socket to replace my contacts to aim.

[@ArouzedLamp]

I'm gonna be so upset if it doesn't have propper controller support

[@seventhirtytwo505]

Once again these indie devs are executing what AAA studios seem to fumble every time. When I watch this my thought is “ghost recon should’ve been something like this”. But honestly, I’m glad an indie studio is getting this done, 2024 year of the underdogs

[@Nztytech]

when is the public release

[@papitoplayagaming]

Does anyone know if this will have controller support?

[@feraligatorade99]

Should’ve been a Vietnam war game Or at least, this map would look amazing in that setting

[@TheLooking4sunset]

For this game i might spend thousands on a pc and a 4k monitor and learn to play with a mouse at 42 years of age..

[@merc741]

Aww man they modeled the mich 2000 on the airsoft helmets and not the real ones

[@BearanormalPodcast]

Why does your EXPS-3 not have a reticle?

[@Penancetw]

Seems like the lens is broken? You can see the outer edges are somewhat there.

[@jacobstewart3428]

He has it on NV mode my guy.

[@BearanormalPodcast]

@@jacobstewart3428 yea uh no. Thats not how that works lol

[@yarincool1237]

It does you just dont see it in youtube because the reticle is so small.

[@charterrr]

I would say if you didn’t carry around 6 AR mags, you’d have a lot more room ha it’s instant magazine reloads so you only really “need” 2 spares

[@jonfalcon3591]

Is it just me or is the halo sight turned off?

[@Wolfhound223]

Looks like a coolio game But it does, as you say need work. For me, you had me @ missions and replayability ...... I will have this on the radar for the future though, hell I may even buy it in early access to support the dev's but I'm guessing that's the whole point of this showcase.

[@gmmuller100]

Looks like red river

[@CudderMC]

walking sim yay

[@lashall1437]

Have you got a last key for me? Please 🙏🏻

[@SuperPartymonster123]

Yo ask the devs about Anti cheats.

[@1201kratos]

The optic rendering is realistic, major games when u aim down sights it reduces the fov, causing an eye magnification with the scope, which in real life does not happen, so 100% the optic rendering that u mentioned is fully intended to be that way, and when you hold breath the character brings it a little bit closer to the eye

[@SA80TAGE]

about voice chat: just let us mute the annoying players rather than restrict it for everyone else.

[@John-fj8bt]

Frame gen and probably not actually 4k because you mentioned dlss and you didn't state what GPU you have wow very informative

[@voidn833]

“Impressed I had high fps with Nvidia DLSS & Frame-Gen on” There we go gamers have been fully converted.

[@theroguenob]

Acog on a carry handle??? Stoner is rolling in his grave right now

[@klayyed]

If they make this game MORE pvp focused, I won't be getting it. I think it looks amazing the way it is now. This isn't a looter shooter so the toxic loot goblins won't stick around.

[@Rb889]

Aesthetics on the weapons are a bit strange, shouldering a rifle should make it appear a fair bit bigger compared to your FOV to get a better sight picture, looking through that eotech was just painful.

[@sierracosta47]

naw eotech is fine except for the reticle needs to be brighter and visible. its usually that far away.

[@simondelavega1938]

I'm honestly surprised I can run this game on epic and average 110-120 fps. I'm rocking a 7800 xt with ryzen 5 7500f native. 1440p. Well Optimised game so far on my end.

[@EredarLordJaraxxus]

I hope the new PUBG game is like this but with some pvp

[@MoustacheMedic]

As someone that usually plays medic classes in games due to my real world interest in medical care. With the medical system in this game it would be very fun to run a medic build, but we'll see if that ends up being beneficial having someone else heal you so you can cover or if it's just better to heal yourself.

[@MasterChief117i]

Yeah definitely the EFT killer we all needed so bad

[@bartbaker-fuchser7456]

lol this is no eft killer, not even close. this game honestly ain't that great more like a pubg clone with a little more realistic mechanics

[@privatesector0422]

It's a damn shame good games like this will never come to console

[@pizzasteve205]

just stop being poor and buy a PC

[@tzav]

Imagine tarkov but you can only play woods and it is like 10 times bigger 😂

[@Morhpocelionate]

Facts. The assets look great, but my problem is that everything looks so samey. Tarkov has objectively worse assets, but the environmental design and the uniqueness of each area is what sells the “real” feeling of it.

[@Breath310]

That sounds incredible, woods is the only map I actually enjoy

[@Geekinofflife]

@@Morhpocelionate tarkov is a beta game of 8 years....relax its pre alpha

[@jabr0nicus]

@@Morhpocelionate it also has like 8 more years of development time spent on it... do you think tarkov always had these unique areas? Half the maps in tarkov right now are double the size that they were at release. Yall need to learn what a pre alpha is

[@MrTask4ce]

Looks very run of the mill. An itch well scratched already.

[@YourGamingTeam]

When can we play it?

[@commandingsteel]

when it comes out

[@DragonNectar]

I like the optics

[@Marco-cg7fb]

so it's basically ARMA with ipdated graphics

[@FilledWithChi11]

Aren’t you using a 4090? DLSS plus frame gen with FPS around 100 and dips to 50 is not good performance. Also when you mentioned the long render distance that is just simply a feature of unreal engine 5 called Nanite it’s literally a toggle in the engine.

[@GATHUGHDxD]

ignoring that its at 4k max settings lol

[@PhantomLibertyy]

@@GATHUGHDxD Every setting shown in the beginning was set to medium.

[@GATHUGHDxD]

@@PhantomLibertyy its still 4k, super demanding of any pc

[@PhantomLibertyy]

@@GATHUGHDxDAssuming his DLSS is on quality, which is about 63 or 66% of original resolution, that's much closer to 1440p in terms of performance. Plus Frame-Gen, plus mostly medium settings. Performance for this game is not looking good.. these techs made a game like starfield run exceptionally well. And that game ran like booty cheeks without them.

[@Morhpocelionate]

@@GATHUGHDxDthat’s fine, and fair enough. But he shouldn’t be saying he’s getting 140 fps, when the FPS is juiced with fake frames.

[@nateparker3870]

and thats why i watch level cap

[@virenkeswani]

wait i thought choppers were drivable , that's disappointing

[@Srfs777]

Why do those guns look unusually tiny lmao. That m16 looked like an air soft gun in his hands (yes ik what the sbr version looks like)

[@EvanHBogle]

FOV and perspective. The guns just placed farther away from the player character than you're used to.

[@Froggiboi.gaming]

First thing I noticed when I watched the stream was how awful the holographic optic is. I can’t see the dot on my phone. Maybe different if I was watching on a computer. Other than that the game looks pretty sick. Second thing that’s kinda annoying isn’t necessarily about the game but all the people saying this is gonna be a tarkov killer. Both are different games. Gotta let GZW be its own thing. But overall the game looks cool just hope they fix the issues noted in the video

[@EmilSosnin]

10:49 you mean healing

[@sergeserenkov4733]

Wow looks cool....*hears its an extraction shooter*.....and Ima head out

[@theguanacopals3693]

Bye 👋

[@zeeksy6276]

Ceya 👋

[@Fredroix2]

everyone is so critical nowdays

[@prototype102010]

I'll be honest... I don't see the "insane graphics" it looks very... on par? I forget which creator it was, might have been you level, pointing out how amazing it was you could shoot out lights! But like... what's the point? It's a cool feature but all the gameplay I've seen has been midday so... what's the point of shooting out lights? idk... maybe it's just me being overly cynical but I don't see the amazing gameplay people boast about it. I know it's partially also because this is not my style of game but yeah... not getting the hype here.

[@nxakush2304]

you can shoot out lights because there is going to be a day night cycle

[@Gipsyboy]

Cant wait for hackers to ruin another game...

[@Michaelmick24]

Cool idea but I wouldn't enjoy this because it would feel too slow and most people just want to get straight into the action and not roleplay their way into it.

[@dean8525]

I did not have the same experience with performance. Felt janky, hard to see anything. I have a 6800 paired with 5600 and 32gb of RAM. Frame rate good, but visually it sucked.

[@Acheron.426]

Yes it's a superficial complaint, but man those weapons are too tiny. Feels like matchbox toys. And why such a tiny sight when ADSing? To each their own, but it doesn't work for me.

[@CoreQ]

disagree with the weapson scope the real one works like this. it is small and you are not usisng eotech to shoot over 200 yard anyway

[@codedsky]

*Networking issues, netcode doesn't exist

[@KaasTVNL]

yeah sure.... on the same moment tarkov is facking it up.... who are the share holders/money keepers on both projects?

[@MoonLiteNite]

seems more like a FPS version of sea of thieves.....

[@mrnomercy9962]

The game has great potential but they ruined it making it an extraction shooter. Will need more gamemodes but it looks good for what it is, I do love the visuals and the gun play from what I can see. Another note: The shadows on trees at longer ranges is simply Nanite foliage mixed with mesh distance fields which is just two tick boxes built into Unreal Engine 5, thank the engine programmers at EpicGames for that one, not the devs. One thing I really dislike is the sound effects and gore, why the fuck are they using pink mist and feather light corpses??? It pisses me off, in real life you don't usually get much splatter on impact, it's all on the exit of the bullet and the kinetic force that pushes the shredded flesh out so it's very unrealistic to have pink mist for blood and people shot go down like a sac of potatoes. Second, the gun sounds too generic, it needs more punch to it. The devs should consider looking through some live leak war footages and learn.

[@theguanacopals3693]

Ya ok bud 😂 shows how much experience you don't have in real world combat engagements. Sit this one out lil bro

[@221Prohunter]

What mode are you looking for? Squad already exists if you want some massive “ride a jeep for 3 minutes then get one shot and have to wait 8 minutes for combat again” nonsense without any real goal other than capturing points.

[@zachhall3299]

my predictions -Hype for a few weeks -people complaining about long waits between betas -new playtest another few weeks of hype -not enough new content -people realize game isnt that good -too long in between updates to sustain players -tarkov wipes and we never hear from this game again

[@SanSabaSongbird]

Not impressed with the game. It looked like it was fun to mess around with your friends tho.

[@naiko8412]

It looks like a tech demo

[@JohnNorse]

That is the problem,empty map and flat, and not enough loot. + poor loot space. DMZ map design,The Cycle map design is so much more alive and interesting. just saying. This will grow old fast...

[@andrewbunyan8083]

Enemy movement looks too 'dumb'...

[@Bubble33333]

The optics is a deal breaker for me.

[@fvs666]

just play SQUAD