Great Player of the Past: Rashid Nezhmetdinov

[@danielfrappier3378]

Most peoples do not understand why he was not a GM, according to chess metrics he reached his peak in 1954 at the age of 41. At that time there was 40 GM in the world. Almost half of them had received the title for past accomplishments. To make it short you had to be almost in the top 20-25 to make the title. It had nothing to do with what the title means today.

[@456death654]

i dont think you know whats required to become a GM

[@shanastroskyphazer8172]

Thanks, I was wondering why Ben didn't elaborate on this point. Makes a lot of sense. Leigh's response seems a bit ignorant to me. My mother was born in 54 that's a reasonably long time ago. Elitism in chess in 1954 no way...get outa here !

[@12jswilson]

​​@@456death654 it's definitely easier become a GM now than in the early days of FIDE. Fischer became a GM because he qualified to the Candidates. Even qualifying to play in the Interzonal by winning the the US championship wasn't enough to become a GM. Even then they only grudgingly gave the title to Fischer and he was a top 10 player in the world at 15 years old.

[@danielfrappier3378]

@@456death654 Today, basically 3 tournament performance of 2600 or more and a 2500 rating. There is some details like the players you play against have to be from 3 different countries but basically that's it. In Rashid time it was different because ratings were not invented yet so the top brass at Fide voted, basically they selected the 2 or 3 strongest players in the world that did not already had the title.

[@dannygjk]

@@456death654 You are thinking of modern GM requirements.

[@f.d.3289]

Every Finegold video has at least one line that really cracks me up. This time, it's 28:15 "That meets the demands of the position."

[@lunakid12]

That "clearance sacrifice", taking his own queen with checkmate (28:28)... I'm speachless... What a perfect (finegolden) move!

[@mezomoza7]

My favourite chess player of all times

[@mishaerementchouk]

As others mentioned, Nezhmetdinov won the Russian Federation championships. It was quite a bit different from the USSR championship. For one, chess players from Moscow and St. Petersburg (then Leningrad) were not allowed to compete in the RF championship and had their own tournaments. For example, in 1950 and 1951, when Nezhmetdinov won the RF championship, the Moscow and St. Petersburg tournaments winners were Averbakh, Taimanov, and Petrosyan, and Paul Keres (Estonia) won the USSR's title. This is not to take away Nezhmetdinov's achievements but to provide a better idea of those championships.

[@beeble2003]

Right. Everybody sees all those Soviet World Champions and imagines that the Russian Championship must have been amazing. But Alekhine (1920), Karpov (1970) and Kramnik (1990) were the only people to ever win both the Russian and World Championships. A whole bunch of Russian Champions aren't even well-enough known to have Wikipedia pages.

[@subspace7290]

the little kids 😂😂😂❤

[@peterchandler9230]

Ben! He didnt win the Soviet Championship 38.32. He won The Russian Championship many times.

[@JAndrioli]

my favorite player

[@anonymousAJ]

16:45 what's wrong with Nd5 disconnecting the QB battery? Edit: Oh I see

[@jozefserf2024]

Nezhmetdinov was the one player that was more 'Tal' than Tal.

[@dylanotto1675]

I miss Ben yelling at children

[@thomas6837]

Where are these vids ?

[@zubizuva]

Joan Jett and Phil Lynott’s favorite chess player: Bad Reputation

[@skirk248]

Rhasid is the best IM of all time and his legendary lacking of the title just makes him look better

[@johanwestin3030]

He sacked the title for legend status

[@SoundAndFuryy]

Also it has to be corrected, Nezhmetdinov was never a "Soviet champion" as he was never the champion of USSR. He was the champion of Russian federation, 2nd-tier tournament, which most strongest USSR players wouldn't play and many, like Tal, Petrosian, Keres, etc. were ineligible to play.

[@spooderman9122]

There was no russian federation at the time. Only the russian soviet republic

[@SoundAndFuryy]

@@spooderman9122Well, the official name was Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic so my description is just as correct as yours. To quote wiki "as well as being unofficially known as Soviet Russia, the Russian Federation or simply Russia".

[@ImMarkiee]

Ben: ding liren just broke tals undefeated streak Me remembering this from a few years ago: 👁️👄👁️ The description: you're Rufus + dufus

[@thomas6837]

It's funny how you quickly asked "What's that?" as if the sound you heard was intuitively the answer you looked for. And indeed it sounded a bit like "Lucerne", which is the swiss city in which the 1982 Olympiad took place.

[@InfernalLegion84]

Go Ben!!

[@beeble2003]

The city beginning with B that hosted the 1982 Olympiad was Lucerne. 😉 Maybe Ben was thinking of Biel, which is about 50 miles away and hosts a regular tournament and chess festival.

[@scheimong]

"Did you know a third's more than a quarter cuz three's more than four?" "Yes I know that." "Okay good" Fuck me dead I'm rolling 🤣

[@celinelorenzo3642]

Hi Atlanta !"bonjour"from the old continent to our liberators,point that us frenchies forget most of time !

[@Aphixx]

calmed her down with "medicine" sure

[@GunnHillfiger]

You guys care too much about who is or isn’t a GM… try getting a 1000 ELO first .

[@edsanjenis9416]

More worthy goal is 1500 uscf, not online rating. 1000 uscf anyone can achieve that without much effort. I laugh when players think online 2000 rating is something, try over the board of 2000 elo.

[@Admiralmeriweather]

I want a 'where are ythe now" for taylor... and arjun

[@strangelyrepulsive77]

why didnt you show his 2 goodest games?

[@tolkienfan1972]

Crazy games!

[@tomswiftyphilo2504]

excellent!

[@shanastroskyphazer8172]

Thanks Ben ! that was hilarious ! and that game against Tal was amazing ! Yeah I think playing the Benoni with black is worse than smoking a pack of cigarettes in one day. But if you win you feel like you just climbed Everest !

[@dannygjk]

Winning the Soviet/Russian Championship should be an automatic GM title.

[@Admiralmeriweather]

he won the federation championship which means players like Tal or Petrosian were not there

[@beeble2003]

The Russian Championship during Soviet days wasn't nearly as big a deal as the Soviet Championship -- for a start, it was actually the Russia-except-for-Moscow-and-Leningrad championship. If you look at the list of winners, you won't have heard of a lot of them: many of them don't even have Wikipedia pages. Alekhine (1920), Karpov (1970) and Kramnik (1990) are the only people who won the World Championship and the Russian Championship.

[@dannygjk]

@@beeble2003 The players I looked up sounded pretty strong to me. Some of them were already GM strength.

[@beeble2003]

@@dannygjk Right, but the fact that you had to look them up already tells you that it's nothing like the strength of tournament that was the Soviet Championship.

[@dannygjk]

@@beeble2003 I'm not going to quibble over the Russian ch vs Sov ch.

[@MorlockTrxsh]

theres MY 🐐🐐🐐🐐

[@RhettReisman]

IMs today have the biggest KZbin channels Ben, get it right 38:38

[@greytoeimp]

Shazam and Kazam aren’t the same just ask Elia Kazan 😅🏀

[@sheryinmoua8486]

3:18 lol

[@_nemo171]

Confusing the audience.

[@sterlingimaging3703]

Corny line after corny line after corny line

[@sterlingimaging3703]

How does anyone think this is funny? No one close to him told him how corny his jokes are so the corny keeps on coming .. Good chess player though ,but corny af! To the point sometimes where you can’t watch it .

[@Iwachu420]

Just don't watch it if you don't like it

[@aleksandarknezevic6158]

Rashid was chess artist!