Great Players of the Past: Ron Finegold

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Recorded on October 10, 2022. Thanks to Josh Yates for requesting this lecture!
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[@ArnoldMiggy]

I never knew Ben had a father

[@luxwutang]

i thought Ben was here before time itself

[@NJ-wb1cz]

Ben: "Ben, I am your father" Ben: "Nooooo, it's impossible!"

[@seanyager3177]

No... Ben *IS* the Father.

[@Flight368]

Yeas, his farther even had a friend who was a burger. Damn, life in America is wonderful.

[@duncanglen3452]

It happened before he was born

[@rathelmmc3194]

I like how Ben casually throws one of the saddest things said at the end of the video. Spend time with your parents people.

[@phihalbe7448]

frankly thankful.

[@conservativeslearn223]

Thankly, frankful

[@seanyager3177]

Thankfully Frank

[@friendalex7384]

Ben's Midwestern accent really comes out when he says the phrase "my dad". Frankly, adorable.

[@AG-ld6rv]

I can't detect it. What timestamp? Then again, I didn't know midwestern US had an accent.

[@clevelandbrown7516]

That ending though The truth really do hurt sometimes

[@prot07ype87]

It really do be like that sometimes.

[@Into-The-Light]

"Ben and his Dad were like that, Son!" Sun Tzu, probably.

[@ericmcdonough6771]

you a real nigga for doing this. thanks ben

[@prot07ype87]

fr fr no cap fam 💯💯💯

[@danielcrase]

Yall killing me 😂

[@twelfthdoc]

I was wondering if we were going to see a game between Mr Finegold and Ben, and I wasn't disappointed! Real emotion at the end though, I'm sure that he was proud. Please pass our love and admiration on to Mrs Finegold too 💙

[@MrYoungHegelian]

Thank you to Mr and Mrs Finegold for giving us the one and only Chad GM Ben Finegold. Seriously though your lectures on openings and great players of the past are the best on KZbin It helps a lot of chess fans from all over the world.

[@jashyotes]

Horray! Sorry I wasn't able to make it to the stream. Thanks for uploading, Ben.

[@AquaticSkipper]

This is a beautiful lecture, he'd be so proud. Made me want to show my dad more appreciation

[@SeddincY]

that ending from Ben is the first time I've seen him saying something really heartfelt.

[@TonyWest77]

I always liked Ron. Super nice, no matter who won our game (I probably played him 5 times). He was always willing to analyze our games, even though he was always higher rated than me.

[@NJ-wb1cz]

Way to underhandedly sneak in there that you beat him

[@etymonlegomenon931]

You must be the father of Grandmaster Ken West!

[@etymonlegomenon931]

@@NJ-wb1cz Literally went out of his way to keep it ambiguous who won, lost, or drew

[@TonyWest77]

@@etymonlegomenon931 exactly! Some people just love to stir up shit. Ben was actually my coach 20 yrs ago.

[@wooki321]

you know, i can’t shake the feeling that the guy Ben is lecturing on here might be his dad

[@HereWasDede]

Go Josh yates

[@jthrash9081]

But stay there

[@jashyotes]

I am the greatest

[@knighterrant5772]

@@jashyotes In your chair!

[@Guccipoet23]

I was a student of Ron’s in Flint, MI back when he had a chess store there…good times. Learned a lot

[@thedamnmoron]

Damn the Church's chicken story is really interesting, I love how Finegold's lectures are always filled with stories like these Edit: the ending gave me the feels man

[@JM-tj5qm]

Ben is the best

[@a_floppy_boy1346]

The last few family stories reminded me of my grandfather who passed away when I was 13, he taught me how to play and what I wouldn’t give to play one more game with him.

[@Cyber_Elf_Elpizo]

Your father Ron Finegold seems like quite the inspiration, his peak reminds me of how chess was unique in the 1960s, the only time NM Bernard Parham (a local notable figure) won a state championship.

[@hunter-tm2kl]

go ron!

[@network_noob]

Damn it was really sad at the end. Thanks for the lecture Ben!

[@pseudosam2458]

Ben is right about AC. It was a luxury option in some cars in the early 60s, but most of them didn't have it.

[@toniright4932]

Thank you, Ben. Beautiful lecture.

[@jorymil]

This is a real reminder that our time with our parents isn't infinite. My dad doesn't play chess, though, so Ben is extremely fortunate to have shared that with his own father.

[@guylee0]

Excellent tribute. Good video

[@drewa2]

I wish I had spent time and played some games with Ron on a regular basis. Time flies, you get busy. Regrets.

[@aniketdhumal2692]

Who are you?

[@TheGreatFapsby]

@@aniketdhumal2692 Who are you?

[@gwenroberts8649]

That was fun! Thanks!

[@justsomeboyprobablydressed9579]

The internets tells me that air conditioning was first put into cars in the early 40s. In the 60s (not sure when in the 60s), about 20% of cars had air conditioning, but 80% of cars in the southwest had air-conditioning. The first time air-conditioning was not an extra charge, but was standard, was in a certain model in 1968.

[@goldenhawx8652]

Ayyy another lecture!

[@petermccafferty9230]

lovely lecture Ben a wonderful tribute to your father!

[@haimkichik]

Nice episode! Thank u Ben.

[@biggsweaty]

I appreciate you Ben. Thanks for what you do.

[@ibazulic]

I currently live in Canada. My whole family is in Europe. I miss my family.

[@Antipodeano]

Favourite lecture - great stories, great dad, and a great son, he must have been very proud of you. My dad and I have played competitive golf and football (soccer) together, so I can relate.

[@PsychedelicRealities]

Go Finegolds! Thanks Ben.

[@markoatf5121]

this video, is not only about " great chess player ", it's about GM son pay respect to his father!!! at the end of day FAMILY LOVE, RESPECT IS EVERYTHING!!! BIG LIKE FROM ME

[@fireballxl-5748]

Yeah, A/C was mostly an option except in the deep south where it was fairly common. Up north, say Ohio/Pennsylvania definitely not standard equipment.

[@louisalvarado4272]

San Antonio Texas is still hot! My dad taught me to play chess when I was eight, after Bobby Fischer became world champion. I won the Texas Futurity tournament in 1979. I was 13 years old. I miss my dad too! He died when I was 22.

[@aqeiwwrgunaug4ne3]

Nice lecture, you’re the BenjaMAN

[@duncanglen3452]

Thanks Ben

[@ahrrydepp493]

May he rest in peace, your videos are awesome man never stop

[@atomiclemon77]

I missed these videos.

[@muradnnolaki6788]

this family deserves a "succession-promotion" series...

[@fireballxl-5748]

BTW, congrats Ben on doing a lecture on your father. Good son.

[@scooterthepiggypigpig4625]

Eye love Ben Finegold!!!

[@thedigitalnerds]

We'll never know which of those is Ben's dad because the pointer was disabled. God Damnnn.

[@headholio]

I miss my dad too.

[@Kirmo13]

Very interesting lecture !!

[@caesarsailor4051]

Great story!

[@wyomingtreeplanter]

Marshall Rohland was USCF president from 1966-1969.

[@terribleteacher]

Awesome 👍

[@16960734]

Very nice video

[@burningspirit7874]

hello great dad of the past who also happens to be a great chess player of the past aka your father

[@Bozothcow]

Only Ben could find a way to lecture about AC during a chess game.

[@Ricardo-zv8or]

Go Finegolds!

[@Nick2014B]

Someone please sponsor Judit Polgar such a beast

[@chrismyers7433]

The 1940 Packard was the first car with factory-installed air conditioning.

[@paulgarrett]

There was no interstate highway system in 1962, so it'd have been 2-lane roads, with tractors and slow trucks... :)

[@FlashNorton]

38:22 And don’t call me Shirley.

[@LukePettit]

By 1960 about 20% of all cars in the U.S. had air-conditioning, with the percentage increasing to 80% in the warm areas of the Southwest.

[@woodandwandco]

"I've had this position as white and black, but not at the same time." -Ben Finegold 2022

[@ankalagonchik]

As we all knew ( °~°) Ben had a father before he was born

[@paulgarrett]

No, they did not have AC in those days... And, if you did install them as an add-on, they'd cause the engine to overheat... on hot days. :)

[@HereWasDede]

Yes

[@AlexRochette]

Are you the kid playing Master Ron Finegold in the thumbnail?

[@edmis90]

_"By 1969, more than half of all new cars sold were equipped with A/C"_ The more you know. I swear in the 90s we drove without any A/C 100% though.

[@sasquatch2]

My first car (1988 Micra) had 2 by 100 model air conditioning: 2 windows down, drive 100 km/hr

[@edmis90]

@@sasquatch2 LOL

[@pdeepak88]

❤

[@raskalnekov]

Mr. Church didn't have a prayer

[@somebodyelse5784]

If you turn the W on its head, you get GM Church. So close

[@peterthebear1184]

12:10

[@jthrash9081]

Hey I'm from toledo!

[@spino1i]

It says on wikipedia that the guy that founded Church's Chicken, George W. Church Sr., died in 1956. So he came back from the grave 8 years later to play one last chess tournament in 1964? lol

[@your-mom-irl]

Wikipedia is prolly full of bullshit

[@beaut7811]

His son was also named GW church and called Bill. I believe that solves this and ben’s thought early in the lecture

[@areirving]

Ben, have you ever played or heard of Rex Wilcox?

[@anonymouscantor7036]

Can I take up your offer to have you sponsor me, in order for me to sponsor you?

[@DrugzMunny]

Name isn't similar enough to Ben Finegold. Should've been named Ken Finegold.

[@guitarmachine13]

His name is hard to pronounce, so he must be good!!

[@TheDavedevil619]

🔥🔥🔥

[@b3p1s]

Since Ben told me to go vegan i have no other choice but to retreat

[@satcheljones]

i don't think i've ever cringed harder at a sequence of moves Nb8, b6, a5, f5 -- bruh black was literally trying to lose, there's no other way.

[@hexrisk]

Woo spent that the 26 years in the D

[@mcchess2329]

and his children's children

[@malachickisawesome]

W

[@idocare6538]

How do you get your protein?

[@justsomeboyprobablydressed9579]

@34:15 "This is like if I played Jeffrey Xiong today. This is what would happen." C'mon, Ben. Xiong isn't that bad.

[@emailjwr]

Rawr! Go Ben's dad!

[@Charlie-502]

GET A NEW CHAIR!!!

[@yotoober1]

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[@peteryftalvarado5095]

I don’t appreciate being emotionally manipulated like this…

[@Ms90ali]

looks like you turned vegan yesterday

[@ahrrydepp493]

Yessss

[@anybodykill6666]

Awww

[@your-mom-irl]

What, that's your dad

[@DreamyJives]

It’s called Church’s Chicken because you have to pray to God that you don’t poop your pants after eating it. True story.

[@chucknola484]

It probably was really good when the original guy was in charge. Same for KFC.

[@fightinggamesforever3364]

My dad taught me chess too. Not to this standard, of course, but I remember getting my first chess board and pieces one Christmas. Then the following year he bought me a chess engine machine, so I had a "strong" opponent to play against (as long as it didn't crash when you were entering a move, which was frustrating on higher settings as it took hours per move). Good times. My dad passed away over 20 years ago now, and I still miss him every day Ben. That's just proof to me you are a nice person. Keep on doing you, my dude.

[@The3p3hr]

Wish your dad peace in rest and a Long Happy life for yourself Sir

[@r.mcdonnell8614]

I used to live in Odessa with my ex, who was my fiancee at the time, and I remember seeing a lot of Church's chicken places. She and I sometimes went there after we both got home from work. Very cool story about its Chess connection!

[@Nekromageofapocalyp]

For a moment, i was wondering why would this chiken place be so popular in ukraine...

[@r.mcdonnell8614]

@@Nekromageofapocalyp haha sorry yeah Odessa Texas. I used to always just say "we live near Midland" since people know that name better

[@paulgoogol2652]

It's tough for old people to play a 6 hours long game but for a 10 years old kid? I would think it is impossible. Unbelievable.

[@jorymil]

There are a lot of places where A/C still isn't really needed. I used to live in New England, and mostly survived on a diet of box fans and window units not turned on until July. We think of it as normal, but it's really energy-hungry. Don't turn it on if you don't need it, folks!

[@loganmyall660]

Interesting facts: this GW church is actually GW church Jr, his father started church's chicken and passed away in 1956. Bill, or GW Jr, started operations around 1962. So it's possible this is one of if not his first public efforts to advertise his business after his father passed.

[@TalsBadKidney]

The one I've been waiting for!!