The most Dangerous, yet Cheapest Mains Power Supply?! || Building a Capacitive Dropper Circuit!

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GreatScott!

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@Yasser-mf9nb
@Yasser-mf9nb 5 жыл бұрын
Great Scott : uses a mains voltage with a warning on the start ElectroBOOM: holds 5k volts and no warnings
@Asault964
@Asault964 5 жыл бұрын
@@jkobain It still does hurt man^^
@techmech3893
@techmech3893 5 жыл бұрын
Because He is Mehdi Saghdar
@santhoshsamuel1055
@santhoshsamuel1055 5 жыл бұрын
So you can see what a capacitive dropper can't do😁😁😁
@vincipaoloesposito8002
@vincipaoloesposito8002 5 жыл бұрын
220v vs 110v
@mattsadventureswithart5764
@mattsadventureswithart5764 5 жыл бұрын
Because this fine Gentleman isn't stupid
@RizLazey
@RizLazey 5 жыл бұрын
Big difference between Greatscott and ElectroBoom GreatScott: gives warning about 230V ElectroBoom: Touches 2 Kv Transformer and just yelling around
@toufumai4037
@toufumai4037 5 жыл бұрын
rubber hand vs. hair hand :D
@TheHaters112
@TheHaters112 5 жыл бұрын
kV*
@ajl9491
@ajl9491 5 жыл бұрын
because in Iran human life is valueless
@arjunprajapati8352
@arjunprajapati8352 5 жыл бұрын
First you go home and touch 230 VAC then talk to GreatScott.
@AlbiinoBlacksheep
@AlbiinoBlacksheep 5 жыл бұрын
the warning is included within the show
@edgeeffect
@edgeeffect 5 жыл бұрын
This is great... Big Clive always says during teardowns of cheap equipment: "It's just a simple capacitive dropper"... thanks to your fuller explanation, I finally understand what that actually is.
@BinaryCounter
@BinaryCounter 5 жыл бұрын
I believe you pronounced "Full Bridge Rectifier" wrong. It's supposed to be pronounced "FUUL BRIDGE REKTIFIAH", preferably with some kind of reverb.
@nounounounou2025
@nounounounou2025 5 жыл бұрын
فبقي
@decaybeats
@decaybeats 5 жыл бұрын
漢字
@carpespasm
@carpespasm 5 жыл бұрын
In Canukistan it's called a rectumfryer.
@decaybeats
@decaybeats 5 жыл бұрын
@@carpespasm In Germany it's a GLEICHRICHTER.
@florianschmid7296
@florianschmid7296 5 жыл бұрын
decay BRÜCKENGLEICHRICHTER
5 жыл бұрын
It would be interesting to see GreatScott and ElectroBOOM collab.... xD
@sortsvane
@sortsvane 5 жыл бұрын
Tell mehdi to tour Germany. He went to Japan lately so it would not be unreasonable to ask him to visit Germany...
5 жыл бұрын
@@sortsvane Good thinking :D
@smoke4131
@smoke4131 5 жыл бұрын
Greatscott : uses rubber gloves Mehdi : sits on nichrome wire to roast his ass
@jack8407
@jack8407 5 жыл бұрын
how to blow up everything the most efficiant way
@nand2624
@nand2624 5 жыл бұрын
Ask him to sit on it..
@guillaumep.7206
@guillaumep.7206 5 жыл бұрын
"As you can see a switching power supply is too big for my tiny ATtiny85 project so I will make my own power supply from 3 ENORMOUS capacitors!" GreatScott's logic :D
@fusseldieb
@fusseldieb 5 жыл бұрын
He also put it in a rather big enclosure... Suming this all up: It doesn't make sense - only for educational purposes - but practically it saves zero space after all. Lmao
@aidanc4719
@aidanc4719 4 жыл бұрын
@@fusseldieb I think it is still true that these power supplies CAN be much smaller. From what I can tell, he was kind of just using parts he had, and he was also not trying to 'compactify' stuff, since spread out components are easier to see. I can definitely understand how this kind of power supply could be far smaller than the other, since you can pretty easily get very small capacitors that still have enough capacitance, but you can only get a transformer and some 10 other capacitors so small. Definitely though, the specific design should not be used for lightweight purposes XD.
2 жыл бұрын
For 12mA, a 330nF capacitor, which is a lot smaller, will be enough. And a 1uF capacitor definitely will be. He also connected the LED wrong, a capacitive dropper only works with a full bridge rectifier or 2 LEDs. The circuit he build was a single diode rectifier with a capacitor.
@vinitshandilya
@vinitshandilya 5 жыл бұрын
When i first saw such a compact power supply in my home door bell, I was fascinated. Thanks for explaining the principles of the circuit.
@vinitshandilya
@vinitshandilya 5 жыл бұрын
@@jeffsadowski No. Modern mobile chargers are SMPS. They don't rely on capacitive reactance to drop out mains voltage.
@SuperPickle15
@SuperPickle15 5 жыл бұрын
@@jeffsadowski sure, if you like charging your 3,000mah battery with just 10ma /s
@Vidar_Odinson
@Vidar_Odinson 5 жыл бұрын
I've watched so many of bigclive's videos that I can actually understand this video lol
@FunScientifix
@FunScientifix 5 жыл бұрын
Clive squad 🖖🏽
@user-yw8sr3uj1w
@user-yw8sr3uj1w 4 жыл бұрын
Yea!!
@Ironarcer
@Ironarcer 4 жыл бұрын
+1
@xsauce3858
@xsauce3858 4 жыл бұрын
Woot
@JasonRobards2
@JasonRobards2 3 жыл бұрын
It took me this video to get bigclives video :)
@AboubakrA
@AboubakrA 5 жыл бұрын
it's not the inrush current that kills your LED's it's the reverse voltage needed to be dropped by the LED's. Inrush does kill your LED's though but much slower than that.
@rupert274
@rupert274 5 жыл бұрын
To add to this, you can resolve the reverse current problem by adding another diode across the LED in the opposite direction.
@ivanperezs
@ivanperezs 5 жыл бұрын
@@rupert274 Wouldn't you have a bigger inrush current problem?
@ivanperezs
@ivanperezs 5 жыл бұрын
Why much slower? There was nothing limiting it
@harrypehkonen
@harrypehkonen 4 жыл бұрын
Ha! I was going to say that too about the reverse voltage. But as far as inrush, I don't think there is any in this circuit. Great idea by @Sean Smith to fix the circuit.
@b062838868
@b062838868 3 жыл бұрын
what i dont understand is why it worked with the resistor
@zakel5750
@zakel5750 5 жыл бұрын
When you put the LED on main power, you need to take on concideration the reverse voltage on the LED with AC voltage.
@TheCarpenterUnion
@TheCarpenterUnion 5 жыл бұрын
It's a diode.
@clonkex
@clonkex 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheCarpenterUnion Yep, I think zak is saying there's a maximum reverse voltage the LED can take and you need to be aware of that so as not to destroy the LED.
@DiaconescuAlexandru2024
@DiaconescuAlexandru2024 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheCarpenterUnion Usually LED's have a maximum reverse voltage of 5V, anything more and you destroy the diode.
@marcoalfonsoorazibarattier301
@marcoalfonsoorazibarattier301 5 жыл бұрын
7:19 english subtitles are the best
@AnghelCatalin06
@AnghelCatalin06 5 жыл бұрын
Electroboom confirmed on subtitles
@satyamedh
@satyamedh 4 жыл бұрын
Agreeeeeeeeee lol
@DepleuerAct
@DepleuerAct 4 жыл бұрын
True
@AlexKiraly
@AlexKiraly 5 жыл бұрын
I learned about capacitive dropper circuits when I tried to add a timer to a heater. The PCB outputs 5V for some IC's, and I thought I could supply my Arduino with that. It surely worked without a hitch. The problem occured when I also connected the Arduino to my PC, because I was tired of disconnecting, checking on the heater if it works correctly, reconnecting, patching the software, etc. The moment I connected it, my breaker tripped, all capacitors on the arduino popped, the 5V line was toasted, and all my USB3 ports on the motherboard were dead. Luckily enough, the motherboard survived. I'd definitely recommend that motherboard for the durability. Will look up the model if anyone is interested. After closer inspection, i found out that the ground had continuity with the live/neutral wire. From that time on, I always check the power supply and conductivity before attempting any modification on cheap chinese appliances
@phantomhck
@phantomhck 5 жыл бұрын
Great Scott: my group regularly builds supplies similar to this in the 60W range with a 98% efficiency. We have gone up to 500W for some applications. There should be a TVS on the front end and a MOV on the load side too.
@somedude2492
@somedude2492 5 жыл бұрын
"jlcpcb sponsored this video" proceeds to create project just connecting pin to pin without using a single pcb...
@filedotzip
@filedotzip 5 жыл бұрын
Hush you.
@santi308
@santi308 5 жыл бұрын
because uses less WATs
@elijahvivio1996
@elijahvivio1996 5 жыл бұрын
To be fair, this garbage circuit doesn't deserve a pcb.
@somedude2492
@somedude2492 5 жыл бұрын
@@elijahvivio1996 it's a pretty useful garbage circuit tho
@jaredknapp6832
@jaredknapp6832 5 жыл бұрын
hahaha soldering in mid air is a necessary skill. xD
@rb.9651
@rb.9651 5 жыл бұрын
5:53 FULL BRIDGE RECTIFIER oh wrong Channel
@javierperez_21
@javierperez_21 5 жыл бұрын
FOOUUHHL BRIDGHZG REKHKHHTIFAAIEERRRR
@ranganatennakoon
@ranganatennakoon 5 жыл бұрын
do you know what is GreatScott channel ? 😆
@norman7535
@norman7535 5 жыл бұрын
BEAR HANDS 11:18
@javierperez_21
@javierperez_21 5 жыл бұрын
@@norman7535 BEAR HANDS... BEAR HANDS... WHAT'S UP WITH BEARS IN THIS LANGUAGE?! I FEEL SO BEARLY TODAY... BEEAR!
@TheFR4NC1SC0
@TheFR4NC1SC0 5 жыл бұрын
Sechspuls-Brückenschaltung or even fuller rectifier
@soranuareane
@soranuareane 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for going over capacitive droppers and their dangers. They're VERY useful in small circuits but need to be handled with care. Using insulating rubber gloves is also a smart move.
@Cadwaladr
@Cadwaladr 5 жыл бұрын
I learned how to make capacitive droppers from Big Clive. They're great for making my own LED lightbulbs.
@trentjackson4816
@trentjackson4816 4 жыл бұрын
2.2uF X2 class caps can be sourced cheap sometimes. I have made pretty much the same circuit as presented here quite a few times for several projects. The power can be a bit dirty (AC ripple) and is subject to RF interference. I remember having a CD4011 quad two input NAND gate configured as an SR latch operating off this capacitor power supply, and the latch would often false trigger. From memory the problem was solved with some hysteresis and further smoothing of the supply with some 104 caps. I exchanged the CD4011 with a CD4093 and used some 104 caps on the SR lines of the latch. ☆Great Scott☆ it worked! ... Think outside the □ and mix in some ♡ then use your ☆ for success... Gret video and thanx for sharing!
@blackturbine
@blackturbine 5 жыл бұрын
GreatScoot: this can kill you ElectroBOOM: hold my beer *SeAt WaRmEr*
@realisticfair6352
@realisticfair6352 5 жыл бұрын
Love your clips .. I'm a 60yr old and have a passion to add electronics to my bucket list ...please make video clips for electronics for dummys like... myself. please
@henrykzajac8001
@henrykzajac8001 5 жыл бұрын
Hello Scott, I can recommend you "hi-link 5v" for powering your projects, it's super small, quite cheap and does it's work. Also it's enclosured. Of course it can be bought from our chinese friends :)
@Honeybearsphone
@Honeybearsphone 5 жыл бұрын
I love how you explain everything and how precise and easy to read 6our schematics are!
@albertox0404
@albertox0404 5 жыл бұрын
Where is the video of this week?!!! I am going to cry 😥
@nathanchalecki4842
@nathanchalecki4842 5 жыл бұрын
Man your writing and symbol drawing is perfect
@Asu01
@Asu01 5 жыл бұрын
When I was a kid, I _shocked_ to find that capacitive dropper actually, well, shocks. Still the worst shock I've ever gotten though. Unfortunately, the simplicity of this power supply comes at a cost. Besides its poor power factor and unisolated output, being an unregulated power supply, it's sensitive to load current, input voltage and even input waveform changes. Yes, you see that correct, even when the input isn't a perfect sine like for example, a modified sine wave from those cheap inverters, it really mess up the output of the power supply since it was calculated for a perfect sine and certain voltage and current range. Talking about inverter, one pro tip: don't use capacitive dropper based devices with modified sine wave inverter. It will result in overcurrent on the output of the power supply and possibly destroy anything connected on the output.
@nand2624
@nand2624 5 жыл бұрын
I saw this circuit it in every cheap rechargable lead acid emergency lights.. and shocked myself many times while opened
@mattsadventureswithart5764
@mattsadventureswithart5764 5 жыл бұрын
AC the most painful belt I've had was 115v 400hz on control stuff. DC was 267v (measured it after it bit me before I swapped the board) inside a radar. Burned a small hole in the skin on the knuckle.
@Berkeloid0
@Berkeloid0 5 жыл бұрын
Isn't this what the zener diode is meant to help with? To avoid the output voltage going high enough (within reason) and protecting the circuit from overvoltage damage?
@TheCarpenterUnion
@TheCarpenterUnion 5 жыл бұрын
Is that because it's not the same RMS value?
@Asu01
@Asu01 5 жыл бұрын
Clamping zener is optional and some capacitive dropper circuit don't have clamping zener, mostly on things like, for example, LED lights and any device with internal rechargeable lead acid battery like flyswatter or emergency lights. These things aren't that sensitive to output changes on normal circumstances (slight input transient, etc) but definitely not designed for waveform changes. If I'm not mistaken, it's not about the RMS value. In fact, modified sine wave inverters do have around 220V RMS, with slightly lower peak voltage than sine wave for compensation. I believe it's about the formula. Different waveform requires different calculation, just like how you calculate RMS voltage from peak voltage with different waveforms.
@EMAngel2718
@EMAngel2718 5 жыл бұрын
I've actually spent a lot of time messing with something similar in a circuit simulator and I had a lot more luck using an inductor as the reactance source rather than a capacitor. Putting a proper sized capacitor in parallel also greatly improves the power factor. That being said I also forwent the rectification and connected a pair of LED's with reversed bias directly in series with the reactor
@hussssshie
@hussssshie 5 жыл бұрын
Great Scott: Advertises JLCPCB. Also Great Scott: Builds dangerous circuit without any insulation hoping gravity won't burn his house down.
@ytrew9717
@ytrew9717 4 жыл бұрын
I usually don't understand your video (I'm a beginner I did not study it) but I guess I understood nearly everything in this one! Thanks!
@boblewis5558
@boblewis5558 5 жыл бұрын
@Great Scott - the first schematic and connections you showed almost certainly failed due to an LED's low reverse breakdown voltage typically WAY less than the PIV of mains. The simple inclusion of a reverse biased 1N4007 rectifier in parallel with the LED will solve that problem and a suitably specced inrush power resistor or better yet a suitable NTC in series with the input will solve (or massively reduce) the inrush current.
@MegaVoltMeister
@MegaVoltMeister 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Bob, did you mean a diode in series with the LED. This is how I used a 1n4005 diode in series with the LED to protect the LED from the high PIV that does kill the LED which was around 5 volts for the LED. However I was using g a resistor instead of a cap.
@boblewis5558
@boblewis5558 5 жыл бұрын
@@MegaVoltMeister no I didn't simply because with a capacitive dropper you need to allow the capacitor to both charge and discharge. With a resistive dropper you don't have that problem so EITHER will work, however the effective power dissipation in the resistor will increase (effectively double) if the rectifier is in parallel (full wave current through the resistor vs half wave). A resistor is fine with LOW AC volts, just as with DC volts, but the capacitive dropper is much more effective dissipation wise. Just beware the "bad" power factor.
@omsingharjit
@omsingharjit 5 жыл бұрын
yes there should be diode to block reverse current from AC second cycle or rev voltage .
@omsingharjit
@omsingharjit 5 жыл бұрын
but this is case for rasistor
@omsingharjit
@omsingharjit 5 жыл бұрын
but perhaps there is way to use cap and led circuit with mains AC , what will if i add diode parallel with led but opposite direction then led than that cap will enable to charge and #Discharge( reverse charge ) in both direction first via led then via diode so in such way led will survive from reverse cycle :) should be
@Xoferif
@Xoferif 5 жыл бұрын
That was a really good presentation! I love the way you draw little graphs next to each stage of a circuit to illustrate what's happening at that point - that's a really good idea.
@douglas1jedi
@douglas1jedi 5 жыл бұрын
0:29 the last time I try to sold an energized component, he blowup in my face... :D
@Gengh13
@Gengh13 5 жыл бұрын
Solder*
@dwaynezilla
@dwaynezilla 4 жыл бұрын
This is a really good video! Editing and camerawork is clean and excellent. I like the diagrams you draw along with the explanations, they look really slick. And of course, the content is the best part; explained well and clear. Keep up the good work!
@TheSmkngun
@TheSmkngun 5 жыл бұрын
Dangerous, you said? I'm definitely making this one.
@strongholds12
@strongholds12 5 жыл бұрын
OMG TheSmkngun, wear a face shield 😳
@SohamMitra_Riju_97
@SohamMitra_Riju_97 5 жыл бұрын
This was the tutorial topic I was looking for ages , on the whole YT there wasn't a single good enough video on this topic ; and you made this !! Thanks a lot Great Scott !
@AlexKenis
@AlexKenis 5 жыл бұрын
10:47 note: should read "inside a closed, non-conductive housing". I would even be tempted to goop the whole circuit
@Xackus
@Xackus 5 жыл бұрын
If the housing is grounded the breaker will trip if there is a short.
@mohammadmursalin6817
@mohammadmursalin6817 2 жыл бұрын
His hand writing is so perfect.
@balkrushnakadam7082
@balkrushnakadam7082 4 жыл бұрын
8:26 don't we need to subtract that zener voltage (5.1v) from that 233volts AC voltage and then divide it with calculated reactance to get our current value.
@chrisengland5523
@chrisengland5523 2 жыл бұрын
the 5.1 volts across the zener is negligible compared to the 233 volt mains. Do the calculations with and without it and you'll find only a couple of percent difference. The tolerance in the capacitor value is likely to be far greater than a few percent, so you're never going to get exact values anyway. This is the case in most electronic circuits, where components with tolerances of 5% - 20% are regularly used and in most applications this doesn't matter as long as the components are generously rated. It would be like using Google Maps to calculate the length of a car journey, then adding on 6 feet to allow for the length of your drive.
@thallok
@thallok 5 жыл бұрын
Capacitive dropping circuits are in common use in everyday items. However, they are usually either hardwired, or use a plug that cannot be reversed (grounded, or in the U.S., polarized). A good example is a ceiling fan with multiple speeds. In a typical build, at 120 volts, the slow speed is obtained by using a 4.3uF capacitor, the medium speed is obtained by using a 2.1uF capacitor, and the high speed is obtained by direct connection (no capacitor). No other electronic components are used nor are multiple winding taps to the motor.
@m.sierra5258
@m.sierra5258 5 жыл бұрын
The REAL reason why your LED kept blowing up was the missing full bridge rectifier. Only in the first half of your AC wave your circuit was a voltage dropper, in the second half your LED is driven backwards. And in backward direction an LED basically acts like an open circuit, which means the entire 230 Volts are on the LED, until it blows.
@superdau
@superdau 5 жыл бұрын
Could be either/or. Plugin in near the top of the mains sine wave the empty cap is like a short and you have 230V spike at the LED. The direction does not matter in that case. But yeah, connecting LEDs to more than 5V (typical) reverse voltage is a no-no (and completely ignored in the video).
@moeinsp2027
@moeinsp2027 4 жыл бұрын
world philosophy can't use electronic technology without full bridgeeeee rectifierrrrrr @electroboom & @greatscott 2020 😂❤️🇮🇷
@acy1335
@acy1335 5 жыл бұрын
Greatscott:This is very dangerous ElectroBOOM:hold my wire
@TechBuild
@TechBuild 5 жыл бұрын
Years ago, when I was young, I tried powering a DC motor with one of the capacitive dropper circuit which I found inside an LED lamp. A few minutes later, I was able to witness the power resistor being converted into a smoking light bulb.
@ElectroVilla
@ElectroVilla 5 жыл бұрын
hi sir i like your videos im from india im also a youtuber love from india
@ElectroVilla
@ElectroVilla 5 жыл бұрын
@Dio Brando pewrandi
@rustyelectron
@rustyelectron 5 жыл бұрын
What a perfect timing! I was looking for a tutorial on this topic
@frogstair
@frogstair 5 жыл бұрын
Make a video on vacuum fluorescent displays!
@davidjrb
@davidjrb 5 жыл бұрын
This was very educational for me. You must have been reluctant about doing a video about working with mains. Thank you for taking a chance and sharing your findings.
@ozgunkara1930
@ozgunkara1930 5 жыл бұрын
Next time please pronounce *FHUUL BRIADGE RHECKTHIFIA* right with some reverb
@AttilaAntal
@AttilaAntal 5 жыл бұрын
I have exactly the same issue, and this is why I ordered from China the HLK-PM01 switched mini power supply module, around 3 EUR
@Inspironator
@Inspironator 5 жыл бұрын
Most Chinese/HK power supplies deliver less than or equal to half of their rated current. If you see what looks like the same unit, same voltage and different current capacities in advertisements, then surely the real current capability is LESS than half of the advertised current capability and the voltage will sag greatly. Go ahead and test them! So your cost savings is likely to cost more than triple, after burning out and needing to buy a proper power supply that meets your current needs. It would make a great video and perhaps people will use this video as a reference design for your own home-designed and built power supply. ;)
@milindmohapatra4693
@milindmohapatra4693 5 жыл бұрын
Could you please make a video on how to build a SMPS and the concepts it requires.
@greatscottlab
@greatscottlab 5 жыл бұрын
Maybe one day.....not sure.
@arjunprajapati8352
@arjunprajapati8352 5 жыл бұрын
bestest ever video on capacitive dropper circuit.
@johnpenguin9188
@johnpenguin9188 5 жыл бұрын
Dangerous and it doesn’t supply much power on the output? Wow, count me in!
@andrewawise
@andrewawise 5 жыл бұрын
For most of my circuits/projects that require mains to
@sambarnes1226
@sambarnes1226 5 жыл бұрын
0:59 He needs to power the project through the AC outlet of his surge protector, yet there's a USB indicator for charging just below that socket. You do you...
@innovation4u336
@innovation4u336 5 жыл бұрын
You are very good teacher. You method of explaination is very intuitive. I always wait for your awesome video. Thanks
@ryanbuerge6903
@ryanbuerge6903 5 жыл бұрын
the scariest thing about this is his unique wire-tangle prototyping method... what's wrong with a breadboard?
@connecticutaggie
@connecticutaggie 5 жыл бұрын
Back in the 90's I had to work with a company to design a custom SMPS for a project I was leading. What I found was that you needed LV power to run the SMPS control and could not use the outpt of the supply because the controller was needed to created it. Sort of a chicken before the egg problem. What I found was that the SMPS needed a small direct-mains supply to get everything going. These supplies usually can't generate much power; but, if you don't need much power they are very simple and may suffice. I am sure the IC I used is long gone. It is certainly long forgot. I did a quick Google and found NPC785A. It accepts up to 450V DC in (provided by a simple rectified DC) and can produce 5V out, 10mA. Note: If you go 3-prong you could rectify to ground and reduce some of the safety issues (but no all) - certainly doing anything directly with AC Mains can be lethal.
@halimahnur7820
@halimahnur7820 5 жыл бұрын
*FULL BRIDGE RECTIFIER* why i hear Mehdi voice
@BillAnt
@BillAnt 5 жыл бұрын
Some may hear it as a Full Bridge Rektumfryer.. hee-hee
@coolfirefelix
@coolfirefelix 5 жыл бұрын
I am researching to build one, and you come to my rescue.
@mohammad.s607
@mohammad.s607 5 жыл бұрын
6:01 but why? these circuits meant to be as cheap as possible while being very operational and optimal. whats the problem?
@ZsomborZsombibi
@ZsomborZsombibi 5 жыл бұрын
The risk of electric shock+fire.
@bansheedearg
@bansheedearg 5 жыл бұрын
The tinkerning part is not isolated from mains power, thus landing this project in "High Voltage" land, the land where mistakes kill you. Yes, it is possible, but only for the very experienced.
@sortofsmarter
@sortofsmarter 5 жыл бұрын
That was such a simple explanation of a very complicated formula and setup. I really feel I have a much better understanding of capacitive dropers now and feel I can start to use and implement them, I have a little easier time in the states at 110V ...lol..
@ErwinvandenBosch
@ErwinvandenBosch 5 жыл бұрын
Beter end the video with: "Stay alive, and we may see you next time!"
@youssefdirani
@youssefdirani 4 жыл бұрын
You made me laugh 😀
@foureyedchick
@foureyedchick 5 жыл бұрын
Dear Scott: I have a suggestion: Instead of using a single capacitor in series with one side of the power line, why not put 2 capacitors of double capacitance value, one on each side of the power line? That way it doesn't matter which way the plug is plugged into the outlet. Also, if someone touches the output of the capacitor on the hot side, they will get a milder electric shock than they would if the circuit is made with just one capacitor, and some unlucky person plugs the plug in the outlet with the hot side being the non-capacitor side and touches the hot side. (Just a safety suggestion)
@legoivan44321
@legoivan44321 5 жыл бұрын
FULL BRIDGE RECTIFIER *ElectroBOOM wants to know your location*
@satyamedh
@satyamedh 4 жыл бұрын
He knows him, in germany
@HarshJain-it2bg
@HarshJain-it2bg 5 жыл бұрын
This is the only circuit of yours that I have clearly understood
@jumilifyify
@jumilifyify 5 жыл бұрын
I think your first attempt of cap + LED only needed a diode across the LED to work. That allows the cap to charge on the “negative” AC cycles. The LED will not be subject to high voltage but will blink at 50 Hz
@AnotherBrokenToaster
@AnotherBrokenToaster 5 жыл бұрын
This is correct, he got 600v reverse voltage on the LED in the negative cycle.
@agarceran
@agarceran 5 жыл бұрын
Bigclive has many videos about this kind of power suply. You can't go wrong watching his videos.
@JerryEricsson
@JerryEricsson 5 жыл бұрын
Nice breakdown on capacitive droppers. My first introduction to them was a night light kit that I got online. It was only for 230 volt and, of course was very dim at 110 here in the US of A. So I played around and tried getting it working but ended up tossing the whole shebang in the bin. It did, however get me interested enough in this type of circuit to study and play around with them a bit. They can be useful in some instances, however I think I still prefer the old transformer with rectifier and filter method to obtain the DC voltages I need from the wall.
@ElectrohouseDQ
@ElectrohouseDQ 5 жыл бұрын
Hi GreatScott! I am from India. Great work bro👏! Keep it up👍. I watch almost all of your videos. I really appreciate the quality and content of your videos. Thank you for giving us such premium content.
@forcovers438
@forcovers438 5 жыл бұрын
Exhausted my today's internet, totally fucked up, first thing to do to watch your video at 00:00 (GMT+5:30) When my datapack renews. 🙄😁😁😂
@firstmkb
@firstmkb 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for walking through this, it helped quite a bit.
@Psi105
@Psi105 5 жыл бұрын
You can simplify the circuit and remove 1 of those diodes. You do it by changing two of the diodes in the bridge to be zeners. This removed the need for the extra zener.
@jamesguzinski2915
@jamesguzinski2915 5 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of my AC Fundamentals class. I still have nightmares from attempting to calculate values in Parallel RLC circuits. I still enjoyed watching your video and going over your calculations.
@gmag11
@gmag11 5 жыл бұрын
This kind of supply is used in many small devices, like Teckin SP22 smart plug. Very interesting and dangerous. Congrats.
@Ystidan
@Ystidan 5 жыл бұрын
You taught me more things than my electronic school... Thanks
@DarkningBolt
@DarkningBolt 2 ай бұрын
You should add a rectifier diode to protect the LED during the reverse half-cycle when powering it through a resistor direct from mains voltage. LEDs have a quite low breakdown voltage and will avalanche and get fried quite quickly. By the way, that is the way they did it for powering the light on an electric kettle I took apart.
@Calthecool
@Calthecool 3 жыл бұрын
6:07 Electroboom needs that for all the times he plugs something in and it explodes in his face.
@Nature-lover1
@Nature-lover1 3 жыл бұрын
I am your big fan from INDIA., Odisha...please dont ever try to collab with any other youtuber.... As you are one alone enough to teach all of us.... May God bless you.....
@prathap8398
@prathap8398 5 жыл бұрын
A big love from India to great scott
@bertoid
@bertoid 5 жыл бұрын
My guess for the "secret" project: Home automation - A photodetector to monitor the light pulses from a smart meter and transmit the results over radio to a base station. Well, that's what I want to do, and was planning on using one of those SMPS modules, but this method could be a viable alternative if I can get the power requirements low enough.
@Gameboygenius
@Gameboygenius 5 жыл бұрын
The reason the LED blew up was not (necessarily) the inrush current, but rather the reverse bias on the opposite half of the AC cycle. The minimal solution for not blowing up the LED is to either use a full bridge rectifier, or if you're ok with only lighting the LED for half the cycle, an antiparallel rectifier diode to clamp the voltage during the other half of the cycle. Inrush limiting would increase reliability of the circuit though.
@movax20h
@movax20h 4 жыл бұрын
The trick that they get away in this remote controlled sockets, is to use a relay that uses higher voltage for the coil. Like 24 VDC here, this way you need less current and can do it with reasonable capacitors and zener diodes. Then drop it using linear regulator for the radio receiver circuit which uses very little.
@janoschlolmann8822
@janoschlolmann8822 5 жыл бұрын
Very nice video. It would be interesting to see the behaviour of the circuit under different loads.
@stupossibleify
@stupossibleify 4 жыл бұрын
Superb video, finally understand capacitive droppers!
@anikettripathi7991
@anikettripathi7991 2 жыл бұрын
For lighting up few led we don't need complex components only resistors of appropriate value is sufficient. We see in indicators.
@MrDunk66
@MrDunk66 5 жыл бұрын
Love your schematics and calculations.
@shoutitallloud
@shoutitallloud 5 жыл бұрын
One can use inductance coil, to limit the current during capacitor charging. That could save your LED when you plug in the socket
@gunthereise2511
@gunthereise2511 5 жыл бұрын
Can we all just appreciate how ghetto the "professional" circuit show at 5:54 is?! The power resistor is just soldered down with a big blob and the lead (which didn't even get trimmed) completely missed its through-hole. The film capacitor also ignored one of its pads and is bodged directly on to one of the mains lines, which themselves are soldered directly to SMD pads rather than proper through-hole connections. Not to mention all of the solder joints are cold welds and very poorly hand soldered (whats with all that residual solder on the green electrolytic cap?). Then it says RoHS towards the back as if they actually got certified. Best of the best right here...
@KangJangkrik
@KangJangkrik 4 жыл бұрын
GreatScott: Electroboom: BOOOM!! 💥
@mysock351C
@mysock351C 5 жыл бұрын
Didn't hear him mention it, but another reason to have the rectifier for an LED running of mains voltage in some form is to prevent the LED from avalanching when its reversed biased. You can get away with it with a resistor since its limited, but even cheapie Christmas lights usually have a rectifier in the plug to avoid stressing the LEDs (and reduce strobing).
@foamyrocks665
@foamyrocks665 5 жыл бұрын
Watching this while wearing a "Full bridge rectifier" t-shirt from Electroboom and hearing Mehdi's voice when you pronounce it. Great video nonetheless, I like it that you did and explained the math for choosing the components.
@GreenAppelPie
@GreenAppelPie 5 жыл бұрын
Outstandingly informative and concise.
@alphaforce6998
@alphaforce6998 Жыл бұрын
It's called a 'buck converter' and it can handle more than just a few milliamps. Using a non-polarized capacitor, such as a motor capacitor normally used with compressor motors, you can make a battery charger by connecting it to a rectifier. It's literally just those two components, and a cheap resistor over the output terminals to bleed off the capacitor when it is unplugged. When there is no load, the output terminals will be around the same as mains voltage...but when you connect it to a battery, the resistance of the battery causes the voltage to drop. The amount of current it can provide to charge the battery depends on the value of the capacitor. These types of chargers can resurrect a "dead" SLA battery because the output is still pulsing at the AC frequency of 60 Hz. The pulsing helps break apart certain kinds of crystallization that can form on the plates of battery cells. It can also charge other battery types quite well.
@MalagasOnFire
@MalagasOnFire 5 жыл бұрын
Check always if capacitors are properly discharged. Also consider using an isolation transformer about 6VA for avoid single contact shocks , (but defeats eath) and less energy to blow up circuits
@bobminchin
@bobminchin 2 жыл бұрын
As your circuit uses a bridge rectifier, the output voltage will be reference to 1/2 mains supply whichever way the plug is inserted.
@MatiRast
@MatiRast 5 жыл бұрын
A lot of electronic boards come with a built in power supply that looks exactly like this one. Fridges, washing machines and much more home appliances use it.
@JohnLee-bf2ux
@JohnLee-bf2ux 5 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the explanation of the rubber gloves
@gunsandkithes6900
@gunsandkithes6900 5 жыл бұрын
great scott electroboom collaboration
@a_r_u_n7595
@a_r_u_n7595 4 жыл бұрын
Types of Warning GreatScott: Mishandling of power supply may lead to fatal injuries Electroboom: Don't kick live voltage , it will kick you back!!
@FadiFadi00
@FadiFadi00 5 жыл бұрын
the great coincidence that i started using this type of Power Supply lately by doing exactly the same thing you did lol
@kenneth6731
@kenneth6731 4 жыл бұрын
We need to get Scott, Mehdi and Kreosan together. Boom!
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