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@ElectroBOOM
@ElectroBOOM 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Mr Scott (let the comments begin correcting me about your name)! Question: in your receiver schematic when using a BJT or MOSFET as the antenna input stages, the schematic shows base or gate are pulled to ground which would turn the transistors off (especially in circuit with BJT the collector is also pulled to ground, should be VCC?). So this means the circuit is relying on the strength of the signal picked by antenna to turn the transistors on and pass the signal through. Is that correct? In such case I think that's why the receiver is not doing great as you showed because the antenna is working based on a weak capacitive coupling not strong enough to trigger the circuit with existing resistive and base current loads on the antenna. I suggest to improve the circuit by biasing transistors in ON mode and just let the weak signal to get buffered through transistor. Of course the bias can only be very high resistors not to load the weak signal, or in case of BJT use Darlington to reduce base current... I think! I don't know... good luck!
@harshvithlani9399
@harshvithlani9399 4 жыл бұрын
Oh wow, I am the first like and comment of this. Hey Mehdi, nice to see you.
@onlyrgu
@onlyrgu 4 жыл бұрын
+1 for the Darlington and explanation!!! Nothing blew up, what are you complaining about!!!!!
@_BSG_
@_BSG_ 4 жыл бұрын
*FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUULLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL BBBRRRRRRIIIIIIIIIDDDDDDGHGHHEEEEEEE RRRREEEECCCTTIIFFFFFFFFFFFFIRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERR*
@chargedlabs3506
@chargedlabs3506 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Mehdi love from India
@Stefan0719
@Stefan0719 4 жыл бұрын
Hi there. Keep in mind that in his version of the circuit he´s jusing a JFET, which behaves different than a normal BJT Transistor. The way he´s "pulling gate to ground" is the right way to do it here. Over all his circuit isn´t to good. The Jfet should have higher resistance or a better said a higher resistor in the source line, and the coupling capacitor to the op amp should be bigger. Also, if I recall correct, I think I saw some kind of frequency selective part in the original circuit (like to attentuate other frequencies and peak the 1Khz Signal), that was done using a RC circuit. In the short demonstration that was shown, it also could be heared that his version of the circuit did pick up a lot of intefference, whereas the original circuit (the one he purchased) did receive his diy transmitter rather well. I guess he used the JFET (which behaves different than a standard transistor) to have a very high input resistance and due to that make the circuit very sensitive. So yes, for standard Transistors biasing "Base" towards plus does indeed work, but for a JFET you have to "bias" the gate ("Base") towards ground. If you put it towards +, it will make the Jfet less conductive (reduce amplification). The circuit (receiver) could be improoved using a high impendance LC tank circuit, with a coil with many mH (>10mH) and a parallel resonance capacitor so the circuit will have a resonant frequency of about 1KHz. That also would put away the humm noise you heared when he tested the bought circuit (It´s not necessarry obviously, and was left away due to cost reasons). Anyhow, just wanted to reply to you. I watch your videos too, you´re an amazing entertainer.
@jonny11bonk
@jonny11bonk 4 жыл бұрын
DIY or BUY? Mehdi: "Just remove the breaker and short the cables. Trace the red-dark lines on your wall"
@jena_thornwyrd
@jena_thornwyrd 4 жыл бұрын
XD I see a person of culture :)
@emanuelxavier9923
@emanuelxavier9923 4 жыл бұрын
Haha, I have the same idea xD
@peterwilhelmsson4168
@peterwilhelmsson4168 4 жыл бұрын
That sounds like a task for...
@iknowdawae893
@iknowdawae893 4 жыл бұрын
*THE RECTIFIERER*
@mohammedmohiuddin8847
@mohammedmohiuddin8847 4 жыл бұрын
Who's Mehdi?
@gonun69
@gonun69 4 жыл бұрын
I find it unreasonably funny that the jlcpcb sponsored a video about a mid-air soldered circuit.
@G_and_H
@G_and_H 4 жыл бұрын
And the conclusion was to buy the product.
@canonip3000
@canonip3000 4 жыл бұрын
"Thankfully I live in Germany, where there are standards" Laughs in old house where every corner is anything but 90°
@patrick_test123
@patrick_test123 4 жыл бұрын
Laughts in newish house where the wireing was done when the principle contractor already started to not pay the sub contractors.
@Teknopottu
@Teknopottu 4 жыл бұрын
Smiles in 85 year old house where every single wire is surface mounted. Also water lines.
@underwoodblog
@underwoodblog 4 жыл бұрын
yeah, here are some in 45° to safe copper, "Stegleitungen" and other funny stuff that makes every drill a thrill.
@underwoodblog
@underwoodblog 4 жыл бұрын
@@Teknopottu ...makes drilling holes easy.
@canonip3000
@canonip3000 4 жыл бұрын
@@underwoodblog NYIF cables are the worst. Even worse if they use the old color scheme
@harshitaharshita6543
@harshitaharshita6543 4 жыл бұрын
You are great this is why you chosen the name "Great Scott" 😉
@greatscottlab
@greatscottlab 4 жыл бұрын
Back to the Future :-)
@ge5645
@ge5645 4 жыл бұрын
@@greatscottlab Hey great scott a big fan of yours but as you are interested in leds you can make a rgb led SIERPINKSKI'S triangle you can google it the concept of fractals
@kishoreksm8366
@kishoreksm8366 4 жыл бұрын
@@greatscottlab Then your real name is Felix?? 🤔🤔
@Pseudynom
@Pseudynom 4 жыл бұрын
"Thankfully, I live in Germany and we have standards ..." My grandfather while building his house: "Ich denke nicht."
@Teknopottu
@Teknopottu 4 жыл бұрын
Thankfully here in Finland old houses were often build using surface mounting on cables and water pipes. Makes them maybe not easy on eyes but very easy to fix and easy to avoid.
@Pseudynom
@Pseudynom 4 жыл бұрын
@@CoolKoon Yes, and it was in the GDR and not the FRG.
@roboticdart6138
@roboticdart6138 4 жыл бұрын
My man did this whole video to flex all his play buttons 🤣
@greatscottlab
@greatscottlab 4 жыл бұрын
Haha not quite
@cancergaming7215
@cancergaming7215 4 жыл бұрын
Lool🤣
@Asu01
@Asu01 4 жыл бұрын
Who needs PCB when you can solder all the parts on mid-air?
@greatscottlab
@greatscottlab 4 жыл бұрын
I know, right?!
@514_cricket
@514_cricket 4 жыл бұрын
"Stay creative...."
@manyirons
@manyirons 4 жыл бұрын
Yes. And then they sprayed it with a film of wax so that any dust that got in would stick and turn to grime when you worked on it. Those were the days, eh?
@harshvithlani9399
@harshvithlani9399 4 жыл бұрын
@@greatscottlab JLCB PCB are not very happy about this.
@sobertillnoon
@sobertillnoon 4 жыл бұрын
I absolutely love your 3D soldered circuits.
@jonathansnodgrass2464
@jonathansnodgrass2464 4 жыл бұрын
Realizing now I spent 80$ on a Fluke toner for work when I could have made one. I will say the Fluke does have an advantage: if you set it to an alternating tone and then touch the leads of the transmitter together, it changes tones to confirm you found the correct wire.
@mattchalk4579
@mattchalk4579 4 жыл бұрын
If you hold the tip of your toner in one hand, and the bare wires your testing in the other, you will hear the toner pick up the signal through your body. That’s how I used to use mine to confirm the cable.
@alphaadhito
@alphaadhito 4 жыл бұрын
6:48 DIY metal detector next time? 👀
@ge5645
@ge5645 4 жыл бұрын
Yes good one
@fourkings7897
@fourkings7897 4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@jonny11bonk
@jonny11bonk 4 жыл бұрын
More like: "Mental" 😂
@baligpsdiving9431
@baligpsdiving9431 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, I vote for metal detector too incl. pulse vs VLF 👍
@johnbuchman4854
@johnbuchman4854 4 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see a DIY ground penetrating radar project!
@TWX1138
@TWX1138 4 жыл бұрын
The principal advantage of purchasing, and purchasing a good quality version from Harris/Fluke or the like, is the durability of the tool. Doing telecom work I've found that cheap ones end up internally using gossamer-thin varnished wires the ultimately break when the tool is inevitably dropped, but quality ones use either just PCB traces or thicker, insulated wires that survive falls. Sometimes the probe tip breaks, but good tools have modular tips anyway so replacing it is straightforward and the tip is intentionally weaker than the PCB so that the tip, not the PCB, breaks. It's along the same lines as using a proper telephone butt-set instead of a trimline phone, the butt-set can handle being banged-around in the truck or on the belt as one works, and can handle falls from-height if it's dropped, while the trimline phone just breaks. Another advantage of buying, and buying quality, is that the oscillating tone can be changed, so that if multiple techs are working in the same area, they will be able to identify which tone generator corresponds wit them or with a given circuit.
@therealjammit
@therealjammit 4 жыл бұрын
The ones I've seen: The transmitter uses two 555 timers (or one 556 dual timer). One 555 is set to astable mode (pin 5 is the output through a 1k resistor) with its frequency modulated by the sawtooth from the other 555 (makes a warble tone). The receiver is the same lm386, but uses the jfet input amp (like your version), but the jfet is from one of those capsule microphones (remove the microphone diaphragm. You'll see the gate of the jfet. Extend the gate wire). The jfet in the microphones are specially designed to not need a bias resistor (self biased) and have a really high input resistance. You can use the transmitter without removing mains power. Just wrap the transmitter wires around the mains cable (no need to separate the conductors) and short the clamps together. It uses inductive coupling. Receive distance is reduced.
@dj_paultuk7052
@dj_paultuk7052 4 жыл бұрын
I use Tone generators alot in my work. Handy for finding a single CAT5 cable in the riser of an office building that has 400 CAT5 cables. Just follow the tone !.
@StigDesign
@StigDesign 4 жыл бұрын
0:50 Ohter contry has summular standars too my contry norway, but never trust the house cuz you never know if it has beend done by a pro electrician or not so :)
@MrBrelindm
@MrBrelindm 4 жыл бұрын
Sometimes while tone tracing communications cables like category 5 or category 6 data cables through electrically noisy environments it is necessary to span pairs with the tone instead of just testing one single pair in a cable. This is because within a single twisted pair of a cable that is merely bent too acutely the signal can be shunted but spanning two different pairs with the tone both lessens the characteristic impedance presented to the tone generated while lessening the chance of tracing signal shunting. The result is a much louder and stronger tone for tracing.
@ELECTROMAN_MX
@ELECTROMAN_MX 4 жыл бұрын
I see you're a man of culture, The Art Of Electronics "Best of the Best on teaching electronics" from Paul H.
@shamrithponlingam1656
@shamrithponlingam1656 4 жыл бұрын
i dont care if diy or buy is the winner, iam winner to have discovered your channel
@greatscottlab
@greatscottlab 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome👍
@MsGabrieljf
@MsGabrieljf 4 жыл бұрын
I can ensure you by experience that in Brazil the DiY version is way cheaper than buy it, because those instruments offen arrive in our country with very high taxes, actually your tutorials have been helping me for a long time, making it possible to build tools that I can't afford!
@jimjimx5418
@jimjimx5418 4 жыл бұрын
What are salt taxes?
@MsGabrieljf
@MsGabrieljf 4 жыл бұрын
@@jimjimx5418 sorry, I mispronounced the word, I wanted to say "salty" meaning that the taxes are very high
@t7732155980
@t7732155980 4 жыл бұрын
Two comments, 1. This is not a ring oscillator. As you explained, in a ring-oscillator you the frequency determined by the delay of the invertors In this circuit the delay determined by the R, C values and the hex invertors use as inverting amplifier (delay is neglected) 2. Try using a piezoelectric speaker. Loved this episode. T
@nilukumari7306
@nilukumari7306 4 жыл бұрын
I am in class 9 and learned many things from your videos. Diy or buy is my favourite series
@marek196c
@marek196c 4 жыл бұрын
on DIY version I would add the lcd to it and by analysing amplitude to vicinity ratio (i.e. distance of 0,5m = 0,4V and 1m = 0,2V ) output the value to display making it better, probably then there would be need of only arduino nano, lcd and amp for receiver.
@karlmikko
@karlmikko 4 жыл бұрын
I used one of these day in day out for many years and never used the contestant tone mode (diy) as the variable frequency is much easier to pickup when there is interference from other sources. Especially over long distances. Buy would be my winner for sure.
@UnknownPerson-nl7te
@UnknownPerson-nl7te 4 жыл бұрын
It's known as live wire detector,you can make it using 3 transistors,see electroboom video about it,Live wire detection circuit
@DonaldZiems
@DonaldZiems 4 жыл бұрын
This is very similar to electroboom's circuit, but different use cases. Great Scott's allows you to trace a circuit without turning off all the other circuits. Only the circuit under inspection produces a tone. Electroboom's circuit tells you if mains voltage is present, so it is great for ensuring power is off before you work, but if you want to trace a wire through a wall, you have to turn off all circuits except the one you are tracing! Not always practical. Similar principles, but different use cases.
@UnknownPerson-nl7te
@UnknownPerson-nl7te 4 жыл бұрын
@@DonaldZiems yaa some things are different like it doesn't use light to show signal,instead...use an amplifier circuit and a speaker,and instead of using live wire's ac radiations,this circuit sends over a pwm signal and is a transmitter and a receiver by itself
@ge5645
@ge5645 4 жыл бұрын
It's a circuit for electrostatic detection or basically measuring a parasitic capacitance from my point of view
@UberAlphaSirus
@UberAlphaSirus 4 жыл бұрын
No it is not. It is known as a fox and hound.you have a transmitter on a DEAD cable and the reciever can detect the signal shiwing you where it is. It's very handy with LAN and phone cables. Where hundreds of cables can be in one box and you need to find one.
@gwesco
@gwesco 3 жыл бұрын
I have several of the commercial products due to working in the telecom industry for decades. We often used them to identify wires in a multi-bundle cable. The original used a common buzzer to generate a nasty tone that was picked up with an amplified probe.
@amirhosseinvahidi5888
@amirhosseinvahidi5888 4 жыл бұрын
"Thankfully I live in Germany" I wish I could say the same. Love the videos btw.
@sprescav
@sprescav 4 жыл бұрын
I bought the bosch wall scanner 120. I save time on every job just avoiding drilling in the wrong place.
@arpithjain4889
@arpithjain4889 4 жыл бұрын
"Stay creative, And I will see you next time!" -Great Scott, 2020
@brooknet
@brooknet 4 жыл бұрын
I've got one of these and by the square-wave sound that it makes, always thought that it was quite simple - but I didn't know it was as basic as this! Still, it's worth the money. I previously used a cheap AM radio as a detector but the main problem is that it's not very directional and due to design, it is tuned to receive radio stations instead of signals in cabling.
@uwezimmermann5427
@uwezimmermann5427 4 жыл бұрын
I knew that the sound was somewhat familiar! During the 1980s and early 1990s I had a homebuilt phone to my best friend next door - and the signaling was done with the same time of dual-tone oscillator around a hex-inverter 74LS04. Each side of the chip was wired by connecting the three inverters in series with a resistor feedback over one group of inverters and a capacitor over another pair. Then mixing the two tones together gave quite an efficient siren effekt.
@1D10CRACY
@1D10CRACY 4 жыл бұрын
A Walabot would also be a good option.
@muhammadhusnimuttaqin2303
@muhammadhusnimuttaqin2303 4 жыл бұрын
Cable detection tutorial for my birthday is best birthday gift. Thank you 🙏. Greetings from Indonesia 🇮🇩
@yunis5097
@yunis5097 4 жыл бұрын
In Germany, we have standarts... weird flex
@zarigata
@zarigata 4 жыл бұрын
OH BOY, HERE WE GOOOOOOOOOO
@canonip3000
@canonip3000 4 жыл бұрын
In Germany we have people, who "pfusch" (not follow those standards, therefore creating inconsistence)
@yunis5097
@yunis5097 4 жыл бұрын
You dont need to tell me that, but yeah "pfusch" is a thing
@Chupacabras222
@Chupacabras222 4 жыл бұрын
Every country has standards. And every country has pfuschers...
@dahimbi7069
@dahimbi7069 4 жыл бұрын
So glad I live in bavaria, we don't have " Pfusch ", we just have " Passd scho " 🍻
@bobdavis321
@bobdavis321 3 жыл бұрын
I have ben tracing wires this way for decades. I am on my third toner. You can trace live wires neutral to ground. I have had a water leak into the wall cause the tone to go away-the insulation was soaked! This does not work well when there is conduit, you have to open junction boxes at both ends to find the wire with the tone on it. I found a fried wiring harness in my car with a toner last week. It saved the car from the junk yard!
@jessicaganser2982
@jessicaganser2982 4 жыл бұрын
You can also use a non contact voltage detector thath you can build with a 555 timer two resistors and a capacitor. It also works well. Nice video thank you.☺
@noorulhaque9027
@noorulhaque9027 Жыл бұрын
does it works on concealed wires
@MSP_TechLab
@MSP_TechLab 4 жыл бұрын
15 years ago when I was telecom technician this kit worthed $150. And it's schematic was completely the same. I couldn't believe how it was overpriced. P.S. Based on experience, version with additional 50/60Hz filter is much better.
@sachinkapgate2528
@sachinkapgate2528 4 жыл бұрын
Scott your "DIY or BUY" videos are a source of lot of interesting information. Thanks and keep it up.
@ELECTROGYAN
@ELECTROGYAN 4 жыл бұрын
Only one word GreatScott!!! 😉
@mervinvicta9985
@mervinvicta9985 4 жыл бұрын
Prototype wiring is great for a mock-up to test circuits. Through to the '60s all valve/tube, and some transistor equipment was hand-built utilising point-to-point wiring until PCBs became the go to method. It is still done today in audio gear like guitar amplifiers and HiFi amplifiers using tubes/valves where not only the traditional characteristic sound/tone is sought after but also the traditional build method for perhaps a unique, non mass-produced piece of gear. Tag strips or turret boards, a rectangular bakelite strip with a row of lugs, are used as solder points between components, the same principle as pads on a PCB. The difference in sound tone between point-to-point and PCB construction is subjective and similar to how someone might taste wine.
@nathantmnguyen
@nathantmnguyen 4 жыл бұрын
In North America, the Loomex is stapled to the studs going vertically, and when running horizontally, drill through the centre of the studs with 1 1/4" of wood on either side. Loose cable flopping around behind the drywall is not an issue, as the wire will move out of the way when hit by the drill bit.
@nitfumble
@nitfumble 4 жыл бұрын
Wow the in depth look into a pcbs schematics and workings of separate parts is amazing!! Thanks :)
@Gooberslot
@Gooberslot 4 жыл бұрын
Why did you try to go simpler for the DIY version instead of adding features? You could have added an led bar graph or tunable senitivity or something to make the DIY version a better value.
@Kryzen2
@Kryzen2 4 жыл бұрын
I new it! I was waiting for this vedio it is 10:20 pm here in India and I am still watching it
@DarkElectronics
@DarkElectronics 4 жыл бұрын
Great video as always. But I have another idea. Which is very simple. Just connect 100mH inductor to microphone amplifier. If inductor get close to wire, you can hear 50 or 60 Hz humming from speaker.
@hongqiangxu2264
@hongqiangxu2264 4 жыл бұрын
There's a commercial product called walabot. It uses radar sensor to scan the wall and you can get image on your phone. But it's much more expensive than cable tracker.
@ADRIAAN1007
@ADRIAAN1007 4 жыл бұрын
Luckily I have brick walls so the cables go straight up from outlets and use the roof cavity to move horizontal. Just have to avoid places above an outlet.
@LumocolorARTnr1319
@LumocolorARTnr1319 4 жыл бұрын
I was wondering where the cable in my wall was going when I woke up this morning for real, how the hell did youtube know to recommend me this the same day?
@berntolovhellstrom8891
@berntolovhellstrom8891 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Personally I used a simple oscillator as transmitter as yours and a AM-radio as a receiver. Much cheaper as i already had that portable radio and also got better Gain.
@vripscript
@vripscript 4 жыл бұрын
your 15 min is equivalent to my 15 months
@kerber63
@kerber63 4 жыл бұрын
We have used friends guitar amp and guitar connector for finding installations in the wall. It starts to buzz when you are close to the wires. At first we started with the whole guitar, but later found out that it is also ok with just a jack.
@fmphotooffice5513
@fmphotooffice5513 4 жыл бұрын
DIY version is sometimes called "dead bug" construction. Nothing wrong with that. It just looks like an upsidedown bug.
@NotASingleGoodNameLeft
@NotASingleGoodNameLeft 4 жыл бұрын
The art of electronics, now that is an awesome book!
@jasonthorpe3470
@jasonthorpe3470 3 жыл бұрын
I would love to see a water in pipe tracker. In the US, we have similar rules for where water pipes can be installed, but that doesn't mean every building was built to spec. I "found" a water pipe mounted against the inside of the drywall when installing a TV wall mount, which made for an "exciting" day (and a $70k insurance claim)
@JoaoSilva-jr9ez
@JoaoSilva-jr9ez 4 жыл бұрын
The JFET, as you used it (common drain) was not really amplifying voltage, it was just buffering it, in which case you could just use an opamp as a buffer.
@noakeswalker
@noakeswalker 3 ай бұрын
Thanks to GreatScott! for this teardown, but...couple of corrections if I may ? For anyone wanting the circuits of this yellow cable tracker, there are some mistakes in his diagrams :- In the signal generator (4:54) , R8 is connected to the bottom end of C3 not the top, and there's other stuff connected to R8 that is used for the 'continuity' function - this function is very dubious as a continuity tester in my example anyway, I left R8 and C4 in but removed R7, and D4 led, and now the unit is 'off' when switch is at 'off' or 'cont', which is nice, you don't have to check it's off properly. You lose the continuity and active phone line tests if you do this. There's an internal switch that pulls top end of C2 down to ground, this stops the tone varying and you get just a constant tone, which is more useful (and less annoying) in my opinion. I removed the RJ cable as I will never use this and it was in the way. In the signal tracer unit (7:26), the front end is wrong - Q1 is an n channel mosfet type LBs, and D1 doesn't exist. It's correct otherwise. It wouldn't work as drawn in the video in any case. The earphone socket cuts off the speaker, but then wires the two earphones in series and to ground, the ground (sleeve) of the 3.5mm socket is not connected to anything, so you CAN'T use that as a handy external grounding socket without rewiring it. Q2, R1 and R11 turn the + power rail on when you press the button, the negative rail is connected by the switch on the pot. So even with just the pot sw on, there is zero power draw. No idea why they did this...just in case anyone else wonders what's going on there. Also, as a tip for anyone trying to make one of these work properly such that it can home in on a very small area of peak signal (tone), like a single wire in a bunch, I added shielding inside - one side of the pcb is mostly ground plane so that shields that side, the other side is basically all aerial (antenna), so I lined that side of the case with ali foil grounded to the pcb ground. Some emi copper tape is handy here also if you have it. Also, I swapped the bare wire probe for some very thin coax up the plastic tip, strip outer for 1cm at tip, ground the outer. Now it will only hear the signal from that tip of the probe rather than the whole upper body of the thing ! If you are tracing a single wire in a bunch, do what the instructions say and connect red clip to the one wire, then connect ALL the other wires together, to the black clip AND to a good ground - when I tested a long run of 3-core mains cable, this is the ONLY way I could identify a single core at the other end. Too much capacitive coupling between all the cores just makes the signal appear on all of them when cable was even only 1m long.
@Taran72
@Taran72 4 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video! It was most interesting to see how the circuit works. Thank you very much for the explanation. Yes, probably to buy is more convenient for that price.
@jiviteshpandab6194
@jiviteshpandab6194 4 жыл бұрын
@Navkaran Singh same doubt? He is probably the patron guy
@AmplifierWorld
@AmplifierWorld 4 жыл бұрын
Hii, is there any difference regarding gain of various op amp ic's Which op amp ic has high gain??
@zolatanaffa87
@zolatanaffa87 4 жыл бұрын
With a cascode amplifier as the input stage you can directly pick up the hum at 50 HZ that you can hear louder when the antenna is close to the cables: you don't even need to turn off the electrical system. Perhaps at this point diy costs even less, and in terms of accuracy I think it is very similar. But if you add a potentiometer between the input stage and the amplifier you can adjust the sensitivity of the probe, in order to increase the signaling precision: at each passage on a critical point, reduce the sensitivity until you find the passage of cables as precisely as possible. Hi and to the next video. P.S.: Even in Italy too, there is some regulation on how to build a civilian electric plant. In any country you live, the biggest problem is in old houses, built without rules or with rules different from those of today.
@mikkovillanueva8896
@mikkovillanueva8896 4 жыл бұрын
I love all of the videos made by great scott I learned from them a lot !!! THANK YOU SO MUCH GREAT SCOTT!!!!!!
@1Hippo
@1Hippo 4 жыл бұрын
Many clamp multimeters have a NCV (non contact voltage) function, it works quite well on my UT210E and does not require a sender, just detects the field from mains AC. Seems more useful to me, especially if there is no outlet nearby. Or is there any advantage with this injected HF signal?
@chriskaprys
@chriskaprys 4 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see some version of this type of equipment that could trace WiFi radio signal from a router/AP. Not just a Netstumbler-esque software-based solution like NPM, but a circuit/device you could solder together and build from parts, like this cable tracker, that would give you a real-time read out of the RF signal being transmitted from the router. Probably plenty of reasons why it's problematic, but would still make an interesting project.
@cxmmax4265
@cxmmax4265 4 жыл бұрын
I would go with the buy for once, for a safety concern I don't want to screw up everything and short circuit wires. Even if both work exactly the same if i buy or do one what I'll look at first is relibility
@CandyGramForMongo_
@CandyGramForMongo_ 4 жыл бұрын
“Fewer” for things you can count, “less” for things you can’t.
@1996BRECHT
@1996BRECHT 4 жыл бұрын
Huh it didn't occur to my I can use a tracker to find cables in walls, nice tip! I bought it mostly for differentiating un-labeled cables...
@hadibq
@hadibq 2 жыл бұрын
5v quartz oscillator + basic AM radio will also do the job thankfully I live in Morocco where no standards are existing so we can practice wire tracing the whole day long when we don't have a life 😅
@Z-Ack
@Z-Ack 2 ай бұрын
I modified my toner by putting in an am/fm radio modulator board from a car radio so now i just listen for the station i tune the toner for.. makes it less annoying and when your looking for wires in somebodies house you look like youve found some weird signal .. learned it worked when i was hooking up the t1 connection for a radio station in town.. they have a circuit with the radio on it for in house listening stations..
@robertotr
@robertotr Жыл бұрын
That is an awesome work of you. How can it be made more strong? To be able to catch the signal farter? The actual one needs to be too close to work. Help us, please.
@chandhrenb335
@chandhrenb335 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Scott... Pls make a video on iot blynk home automation.... Which includes real time feedback. And manual control .. From appliances to the app..... With explanation.... There are lots of videos but none of them explain clearly....
@luisfelipesaldivar5100
@luisfelipesaldivar5100 4 жыл бұрын
What kind of feedback do you mean? Because i've made a climate station with a Esp32, Dht11 and a bmp180. I can check flor de values for those sensors whenever i want and see the values that they're are getting. If You need help just say It and maybe we can talk about it
@chandhrenb335
@chandhrenb335 4 жыл бұрын
@@luisfelipesaldivar5100 feedback... In the sense... I wanted to know whether the appliance is on or off.... In my application
@robindegans9014
@robindegans9014 4 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/kHLUf36XjZh_h5I he already made such a video
@marc-andreservant201
@marc-andreservant201 4 жыл бұрын
Here in Canada and the USA our cables go through the middle of the studs, and the distance between the wire and the surface of the wall is calculated so a normal drywall screw won't be long enough to hit the wire. A framing screw for hanging kitchen cabinets, on the other hand, does damage wires. Ask me how I know...
@bernardolinaanggeli4739
@bernardolinaanggeli4739 4 жыл бұрын
You can do it cheaper with a bad quality CFL lamp and a cw hand radio!. I like a lot these diy or buy videos!
@markusschnepf
@markusschnepf 4 жыл бұрын
I like GreatScott! but I really understand "Let me know your farts" at 9:23
@marhar2
@marhar2 4 жыл бұрын
Love the DIY, will definitely buy. So jealous of your home wiring, I live in a 1928 house which is charming, but so deficient in electrical connections!
@koelecat2755
@koelecat2755 4 жыл бұрын
thats why we pull the cable's from the sockter to the ceiling and in the ceiling we bring them to fuse box in the netherlands
@mikehill3426
@mikehill3426 4 жыл бұрын
Buy sounds right in this case. Big fan of your channel.
@MetinOktayYlmaz
@MetinOktayYlmaz 4 жыл бұрын
Okay I'm not a patron but this comparison is truly essential: battery spot welder diy or buy
@drmosfet
@drmosfet 4 жыл бұрын
Circuit traces can easily lead you the wrong way as well, and if the cables goes through a large server room, it's not much fun. The two tone tracer are better distinguishing the difference between data cables and what your tracing, there also helpful with hearing aid loops👂, you can even hear people taking over landlines with them.
@dennisolsson3119
@dennisolsson3119 4 жыл бұрын
The transmitter with an Arduino that encodes the signal would be awesome. Then you could have multiple outputs with different beep patterns for tracing multiple runs at once. And keep using the bought receiver.
@Mic_Glow
@Mic_Glow 4 жыл бұрын
Standards don't mean the electricians followed them... Plaster hides everything. In my flat I drilled trough a 3-phase cable that was going diagonally across a wall. 10 minute job turned into a 2-day one. Had to remove quite a bit of the plaster, (drive to buy supplies) fix the cable, apply plaster (wait) and paint...
@BinaryCounter
@BinaryCounter 4 жыл бұрын
If you want an even simpler sender, you could probably use an arduino and just rip a beeper example from the internet.
@michalkana9764
@michalkana9764 4 жыл бұрын
I love this DIY or Buy, now I know what is best.
@michalkana9764
@michalkana9764 4 жыл бұрын
Can you understand Czech?
@aurthorthing7403
@aurthorthing7403 4 жыл бұрын
You can make a sender unit from a (very cheap) battery powered window alarm. It won't have the same signal but it works as a transmitter. I haven't found an inexpensive (off the shelf) receiver unit.
@timhofstetter5654
@timhofstetter5654 4 жыл бұрын
NEVER assume that the presence of standards means ANYTHING. Someone before you may have entirely ignored those standards. It's super-easy to trace 120V / 240V wiring with any simple audio amplifier, using your hand as an antenna.
@bobz143
@bobz143 4 жыл бұрын
I wonder for a long time, do you think a rtl2832u could be used as wire detector?
@hpdv0276
@hpdv0276 4 жыл бұрын
Scott can you fix your receiver schematic at 7:25. The Q1 D1 parts nicht work
@EddieFox
@EddieFox 4 жыл бұрын
Just Bury that wired in mid air contraption in epoxy resin block. Job done.
@0123-v1o
@0123-v1o 4 жыл бұрын
Cables and water pipes are one thing, as they can usualy be turned of with a circuit breaker or main supply valve. Drilling into a heating pipe is where the real fun begins, because the expansion tank usualy makes sure that the stream of 60-70°C hot deep black sludge wont stop any time soon... So how about a "Pipe finder DIY-or-Buy"? :D It should work with ferrous and non ferrous metals to detect Copper, Stainless steel, Iron, Cast iron and the aluminium layer in PEX-Pipes
@johanntiu4162
@johanntiu4162 Ай бұрын
You can also use transistors or op-amps to create and oscillator.
@eDoc2020
@eDoc2020 4 жыл бұрын
7:26 Is this schematic correct? The first thing I notice is there is no power connection to the preamplifier, how can it achieve any amplification? As drawn, once the circuit reaches steady state the junction of D1, R6, and R7 will be at 9v. For any signal to get through the emitter of the transistor will need to be above battery voltage. I'm not sure if this is the proper fix but it looks to me like you may have GND and Vcc reversed on the preamplifier circuit; if you swap them it looks like the circuit would work.
@0ffGridTechClub
@0ffGridTechClub 5 ай бұрын
Awesome ! I'm making my first RPi PICO based Ethernet tester with the 74HC595N IC. I'm going for a swiss army knife approach to this "multi-tool" will have a display and run some i2c scans for debugging + cheap logic analyzer (why not) 😂
@callmefoxie2950
@callmefoxie2950 4 жыл бұрын
there is one problem though. If you want to find the cable going to the lights you need to dismantle quite a lot to get to it.. or make a fake lightbulb :)
@sandeepsinghjagdev3485
@sandeepsinghjagdev3485 4 жыл бұрын
Can these signal picked up by nearby amplifier???
@peerappel2012
@peerappel2012 4 жыл бұрын
My multimeter has a non-contact voltage measure function. You can find the AC wires with it while keeping the voltage on your wires.
@nagamanihegde9609
@nagamanihegde9609 3 жыл бұрын
Thermal camera... diy or buy wich is best..??
@gangstalking_de
@gangstalking_de 4 жыл бұрын
i have no idea about electronics, but this sure is a cure circut
@egg7990
@egg7990 4 жыл бұрын
Hey GS, what kind of silver copper wire do you use for your perfboard projects?
@greatscottlab
@greatscottlab 4 жыл бұрын
Silvered copper wire 0.8mm
@egg7990
@egg7990 4 жыл бұрын
@@greatscottlab Is there a reason you go with silvered copper wire? Would tinned copper wire be the same thing?
@naturelovertx
@naturelovertx 4 жыл бұрын
I used a similar device to locate underground metal pipes on a gold course I worked at. We would drive a metal pin (rebar) in the ground for one lead and clip the other to exposed pipe. The corrosion on the pipe would insulate the pipe from the earth enough to track the pipe. Supposedly that unit was $600 USD. What would it take to make this device detect a path up to a meter or two deep?
@allenlutins
@allenlutins 4 жыл бұрын
Probably about $590 worth of parts 🤣🤣🤣
@peterpiper0815
@peterpiper0815 4 жыл бұрын
probably a stupid question but is it possible to build a NFC sender so the cable in the wall become a NFC tag? One could use a smartphone as detector (of course after program an NFC app that measures the distance to the tag :-) )
@flyaway6646
@flyaway6646 Ай бұрын
That's why i like Germany. I wish we could learn a lot from it.
@fredericlesiuk7364
@fredericlesiuk7364 4 жыл бұрын
I like to watch what you make. But If there is an other wire in the wall with electricity( for example a wire for a light), he will not be detected. So, for me , il will be more safe to detect electricity and to light up a led when 50 Hz is detected. Continue you vidéos and don't change anything because you explain very well.
@harikamalakarreddydarapu7410
@harikamalakarreddydarapu7410 4 жыл бұрын
Very nice project
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