GREECE-FYROM 86-54 GREECE HIGHLIGHTS

GREECE-FYROM 86-54 GREECE HIGHLIGHTS
EUROBASKET 2009 POLAND

[@hungarymagyarorszag826]

Greece is the best. From Hungary with love! 🇭🇺🇬🇷

[@Terminator-T2000]

Macedonia? Do you believe you are Greek? Aren't you Slav? Why dont you speak Greek then? C' mon tell me...

[@imagreektroller5879]

FYROM basket ahahahaha BIG JOKE

[@odysseastopalis4661]

BASKET FROM SKOPIA..............LIKE A JOKE...................

[@Darth777Vader]

Greece - FYRO 86-54! wow, 32 points only? Not bad at all for a small team like FYRO.. FYRO have reached their peak in this game.

[@kyrpousin]

ΑΝ ΠΑΡΑΤΗΡΗΣΑΤΕ ΣΤΟ ΠΙΟ ΜΕΓΑΛΟ ΚΟΜΜΑΤΙ ΤΟΥ ΜΑΤΣ ΥΠΑΡΧΕΙ ΠΑΝΩ ΣΤΟ MKD ΕΝΑ ΑΣΠΡΟ!!!!FYROM IS GREEK

[@Leoforos13]

@@spyrosvergos4232 Αν διαβάσεις ιστορία θα δεις ότι υπάρχουν πολλές ελληνικές πόλεις στα Σκοπια και ζουν ακόμα εκατοντάδες χιλιάδες Έλληνες εκεί

[@Leoforos13]

@@spyrosvergos4232 Δεν είναι μόνο στα νοτιοδυτικά και φυσικά δεν έχουν καμία σχέση με τους Έλληνες της Αυστραλίας. Στα Σκοπια δεν είναι Έλληνες μετανάστες, αλλά γηγενείς

[@Max-zp8sx]

Greece for ever and ever! From Poland! 🇵🇱❤️🇬🇷

[@ShopTVPanagiotidis]

MKD IS GREECE,,,, VRD IS CORRECT

[@ikd900]

you mean fyrom of course cause macedonia is greek

[@ang50]

καταπληκτικος αγωνας για την ελλαδα

[@panoskatrioplas4206]

skopjedonia is the right....

[@APMUMBP]

@2005defender LOL. Is that why the name Macedonia was not unsed in northern greece till 1988? Or there is one map of Macedonia being greek before 1913?

[@Alex1tmacthebestnba]

gt re file?ti exei to mpasket kai i istoria mas???

[@ΓεώργιοςΖησιμόπουλος-τ3ψ]

Πρώτος σκόρερ ποιός ήταν σε ετούτο το ματς;

[@dddfff3578]

Macedonia is part of ellada?2015*.

[@APMUMBP]

@FlyingWarrior08 What were the first people he conquered when he took over the world? Second when did the term hellenic age come to be used? By the way i still have not seen one Map of Macedonia being greek before 1913. I am home been there since the start of time. I can go back to my family fighting the turks way before you came from africa. Guess where my great great g/father was fighting the turks? In Egejska Macedonia!! No need for me to go anywhere!!!

[@MancM]

@ElectraofMaced0n excuse me madam, which history, since you fall for this issue you have no clue about the human history, tell me who were the first people, from which tribe they were, were they macedonians or greek or jews, or they were just Humans.

[@captainzeppos]

so we're talking about a country (Skopje) where most people dont even have to eat but they still dream they can be called Macedonians, that their rightful borders are inThessaloniki, being constantly misled by their political leaders. theres not much more to say. this must be one of the very few nations that truly do not deserve to waste the precious oxygen of this planet. they will always be Skopje.

[@MKDlover]

You are then Hellenic visitors on a 19th century macedonian land :) If I understand you correctly, you don't have problems to call us Republic of Macedonia if we say ancient macedonian history is greek, right?

[@koukoutsios8501]

Makedonia is Greek 🇬🇷🇬🇷

[@MancM]

@ElectraofMaced0n then my dear I have no more to talk to you, I offered you a sincere friendship, but you continue to argue with me, and my question is not of topic, the topic is history of some people, but I'll ask you tell me how were the greeks born where did they came from?

[@MKDlover]

Can you exclude ancient Macedonia from this conversation? I am talking about present reality, you talk about ancient history.

[@ackovski]

No I don't ... we both know the issue about the name of my country! And I was really curious if you would let that match live streaming on TV like you did for all the rest matches... and you DID! That game was a live stream, unfortunately I didn't record it. Lucky your friend did.

[@MancM]

@thegreathistorian7 this is not english this is a mixture from Latin adn German ans some norman or celtic words

[@ackovski]

Kicked whose ass? MKD's?

[@WRX2001]

humiliation for the FYROMSKI

[@flute2k]

Of course Spain is one of the most loving countries to us Greeks, they won the match, we congratulate them with the bottom of our hearts, we are all brothers and sister, and sports is just a game at the end, and the challenge is here with love, not with hate! we love you Spain, you support our Ancient Greek Macedonian heritage, we are all together in the European Union forever, Viva le Espana! and Viva la Grecia, Ellada and it's Northern Province ΜΑΚΕΔΟΝΙΑ ;-) forever

[@TV-xr8vd]

But supprisely skopje won 72-58 against Greece and then this go home skopje

[@hungarymagyarorszag826]

But Greece beat them 85-65 on 2015. Love Greece from Hungary! 🇭🇺🇬🇷

[@MacedonianAlwaysGreek]

1. " 'Macedonia' (FYROM) was also an attempt at a multicultural society. Here the fragments are just about holding together, although the cement that binds them is an unreliable mixture of propaganda and myth. The 'Macedonian' language has been created, some rather misty history involving Tsar Samuel, probably a Bulgarian, and Alexander the Great, almost certainly a Greek, has been invented, and the name Macedonia has been adopted." ...

[@nicholaskampouris6343]

someones a little upset that their team lost

[@MKDlover]

Albanians (22%) talk albanian, no doubt. But we don't speak bulgarian. It would not be a shame to admit it if it is true, but it is not. What greek macedonian language you talk about? I can imagine there is a dialect in your Makedonia, but it is just a dialect, not separate language.

[@MAKTolk]

2011 Eurobasket MACEDONIA - hell ass ... how much??? 72-58

[@norakarypidou]

Educate yourself Bro. 🇬🇷👍

[@SirGeorge8600]

lol why are there British people fighting on this video? I am Greek and I have nothing against Macedonia, they are our neighbors so full respect.

[@MacedonianAlwaysGreek]

2. ..."Do we destroy these myths or live with them? Apparently these 'radical Slavic factions' decided to LIVE WITH THEIR MYTHS AND LIES FOR THE CONSTANT AMUSEMENT OF THE REST OF THE WORLD!!!" (T.J. Winnifrith, British academic, "Shattered Eagles, Balkan Fragments", Duckworth, 1995)

[@tasosellinas1499]

not Macedonians...Macedonians are Greek...These are Slavs

[@stozza4eva]

@Bellegr that american player is technically as macedonian, btw half the team in this tournament have american players and once again, Macedonia 72 - Greece 58, MAKEDONIJA ZA ZIVOT

[@Sodnal]

Greeks had to use everybody including the water boy to keep the difference in score under 50 points.

[@dimalex8]

you seem to ignore two words, FORMER and YUGOSLAV. the second word changes everything

[@cooleria]

τσουκαλας?? :P

[@MKDlover]

You must understand one thing - we can not call ourselves with any other name then Macedonians, that would not be us. It is clear enough we are slavic nation and have no relations to greece and greek macedonians (which are basically greek) at all. Btw, we do have a lot of monuments from ancient Macedonia on our teritory - the guides don't hide those are monuments from the hellenic period.

[@MKDlover]

I can see by your comments you are nervous and I am glad :) If you don't want to accept our identity it doesn't mean we don't have it. Instead of defending your dignity, you are loosing it with this stupid dispute. Let us be who we are, there is no other way.

[@MKDlover]

I don't know how to explain to you that ancient things are not the core of this dispute. The real reason for the dispute between our nations starts in 1913, not 3000 years ago. How can we destroy something ancient when it doesn't exist anymore? What is so hard to understand that if ancient macedonians were all greeks, the modern macedonians are not? I don't need to look back 3000 years ago to say I am Macedonian.

[@l-dracwarthorn2789]

the skopjans are using the name and the word Macedonia so often mostly for make first of all themselves to believe in their "macedonian" nationality...How pitty...for a nation with only 90 to 100 years of history

[@AlexandrosTria]

why you remembered that you are macedonians at early 90s? before thats what you were calling your selfs? Greeks fought for the name of macedonia 100 years before you baptize your selfs macedonians.

[@MKDlover]

I don't know which negative results you talk about, we are doing fine despite the dispute. Bye, God bless you, too.

[@APMUMBP]

I am glad you saw it! Did you enjoy it as well? So now you guys are Macedonians and greeks. Gee I had no idea you could be italian and french as well unless one of your parent came from each country. But you are half right. 1/4 of the real Macedonians did win. I heard on the greek team there were some players from egejska Macedonia And since we see them dancing to Macedonian and not greek music 1/4 did win. Well we dont have the $ u guys have LOL if we took other peoples land/people we may win 2

[@ΘερμόαιμοςΈλλην]

Άι καλά κοίτα σε ποιους προδοσαμε την πατρίδα μας

[@minasabil]

i want to add something here.when they call us greek its just part true .greek comes from the word greko a hellenic race from thessaly ,hellenic race like makedones and others so its more correct to be called hellines

[@MancM]

@thegreathistorian7 btw yes it is, do you know that mitochondrial dna is non changing, mtDNA is inherited solely from the mother and it's stays the same for thousands of years, so yes it can be way to prove it!

[@MancM]

@ElectraofMaced0n after all the comments and conversations I came out with one conclusion only, while two fights the third takes the advantage, so who the 3rd is , why are we letting this to go on, people who share the land should not let to torn it apart! In LaK'ech Ala K'in

[@MKDlover]

The numbers were awful, but MKD sign is a punch in your face :) You can cover it as much as you want, it was there for the world to see it.

[@MancM]

@thegreathistorian7 well actually you even might be? what makes you Greek? Who invented Greece, who was their ruler (german) so the great historian have forgot the history just 150 years ago, and yet he talks about almost 3 tousand years

[@MKDlover]

I believe you should name your province any Macedonia you like if you want to separate it from us. Even if you don't want to do it, it is ok with us, we don't mix in your internal matters. Just don't make us change something sacred - the identity. And about the ancient history, it is part of the tactics, you will see it.

[@MancM]

@ElectraofMaced0n fact 3: no man is put in jail for taking bulgarian citzenship, if someone told you that then that one lied to you I have many friend who took that BG pass just to go to EU to work with, no one haven't quit their native citzenship, not yet ;)

[@SirGeorge8600]

Holy shit look at the vast debate my little comment caused

[@SirGeorge8600]

@ElectraofMaced0n there's many on facebook

[@MancM]

@ElectraofMaced0n btw ty for explaning me for the name of Ellada, when I was a kid I used taht name more than greece, but Yugoslavia regime tought us to call you Greece

[@MancM]

@thegreathistorian7 M The ancient Macedonians were a distinct nation, ethnically, linguistically, and culturally different from their neighbors. Their origins are in the ancient Brygian (Phrygian) substratum that occupied the whole of Macedonian territory and in Indo-European superstratum, which settled here at the end of the 2nd millennium. Archaeological evidence shows that old European civilization flourished in Macedonia between 7000 and 3500 BC

[@ackovski]

How fool can you be to believe that?! If I had the video clip... would I cover only half of it until 2:10? No! I would edit the whole clip and cover the MKD for the whole duration of the clip! Why would I discredit myself by doing mistake like that? The truth: The guy that posted this clip barely knows video editing. The match was a live broadcast on TV and your national TV didn't notice it until it was too late! That is why it was not covered until 2:10! THAT IS WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ! ! !

[@MKDlover]

You can not impose a name on anybody.

[@I.T.Channel_]

M A C E D O N I A

[@pauloploum1878]

Macedonia????

[@lookatmyprofilepicture2796]

Macedonia 🇬🇷❤️

[@APMUMBP]

@SamsonElitsa Did you see the BIG Macedonian flag at the start of the game? LOL

[@MancM]

@thegreathistorian7 we claim nothing but that we are or we are not, we live in the land of Macedonia, and as the afro-british can call them selfs british or not to mention USA, it is what greeks claim, they say he is a greek, well greece exist as such as today under this name for a 150 and some years, there was always city states, while Macedonia has always been a country, it's natural for the different tribes to live this peace of land, just count for how long and under how many rulers has been

[@MancM]

@ElectraofMaced0n because Alex knew more that we will understand, because His idea was not to conquer the world but to create 1 country so there to be peace among the people so not to be arguing like we do, accept my friend invitation I would like to discuss more some time on other issues, 'cos I would really like to tell you what was my point why did I started the comments in first place, and you will know this true 'cos if you have read few then you've seen that I trying to be reasonable.

[@MancM]

@ElectraofMaced0n we fought together strarting against persians, romans, otomans, nazis, well fight again side by side, but we will naver accept one another, why?

[@_Laskas_]

You never fought with anyone, YOU CAME IN THE BALKANS IN 6th CENTURY AD !!!! Same bshit again and again

[@BERZITI]

he is Macedonian cityzen, he have Macedonian passport ! AND DONT FORGET , MACEDONIA WIN NOT BECOUSSE of Mc Calleb , that was a TEAM performance .

[@MKDlover]

How can you have a monopoly over a name? I would understand if the whole teritory of Macedonia is greek, but you know it is not true. Let's look at it opposite way - Republic of Macedonia is 100% on macedonian teritory. Greece is only 10-15% on macedonian teritory. This way, we have more right to the name then you.

[@MKDlover]

Solun = city of sun (solar city), that is the meaning. I don't see your point, our teritory was also anicent Macedonia. In meantime, population changed, but the name remained.

[@MKDlover]

Well, if we managed to persuade so powerful nations to go beyond truth, we must be extremely smart and you must be extremely uncapable in defending the truth. However, it is not the case - they all know ancient macedonia and modern macedonia are not the same.

[@GabrielM111]

@thegreathistorian7 even if that were true, it aint modern fyrom, whose people have no relationship to any of what you claim...

[@MKDlover]

I will tell you how it will be - we will remain Republic of Macedonia (except for greece, call us anyway you like) and we will gradually turn to future instead to antics. We will give up something we don't care much about to keep the most important things - name and identity.

[@nordpolarius]

ehhhh i forgot!!!!! Macedonia is greek of course. greetings from Russia....!!!!!!

[@vaszosz]

GREECE - former yugoslav REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA

[@APMUMBP]

@HellenicGlory There is only one Macedonia but only one part is free!!!

[@MKDlover]

Macedonia is greek only 51%, far from totally greek. Ridicoulous? We still play along you, we are stil present there.

[@MancM]

@thegreathistorian7 Reign of King Otto, 1833-1863 Reign of King George I, 1864-1913 this are the rulers of so called Greece, 'cos this are the families that named it!

[@Soookkk]

Na pw episis oti xairomai para poly pou o mike kanei ta koumanta tou kai me tin ethniki. Mike eisai megalos!

[@ackovski]

ADMIT IT ! ! !

[@erhan7332]

come on my frined.ı am not macedon.ı am turk and it i,s not my work to save macedoina here.but be realist.there is a country which is called macedonia dn playing in eurobasket 2009..so ı think real are reals..it is sometihng like that north ıraq is region of turkey.but we know it isnt..so be realist..

[@MKDlover]

If basketball is the key argument, then you must be real russians today, about to become real frenchmen tomorrow :)))

[@dddfff3578]

Hellas history DNA.id.

[@pianote23]

Nice nick name...

[@MKDlover]

No need for that - we already have a proper name.

[@byJessCh]

macedonians are greeks vardarskians are bulgarians

[@lordmassk007]

@apolskis1 ofc you will bring us bananas, winners get served!

[@thunderbrand]

APMUMBP you've got too much hate inside you. Life is too short to be hating so much. For whatever reason.

[@MancM]

@ElectraofMaced0n aren't you proud enough that he had spread the hellenic language and culture remember Greece by that name is found in the beginning of the 19th century by the German and British powers or western powers and messed up everything so instead to be friends you and are arguing now, peace.

[@Ndimoski]

72:58 2011 eurobasket !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@SamsonElitsa]

Looks like the real Macedonians win! Macedonia for Macedonians... who are Greeks! ZYTO!

[@kayzergajledatie6398]

pero antic!! edna e makedonija

[@APMUMBP]

@HellenicGlory ya one is under greek one under bulgarian and one under albanian rule!!!

[@ackovski]

We might have mixed with some Slav tiubes throughout the time, and they might have had a great influence on us... but we are far away from being pure Slavs as you intent to state just to make a distance between us and the history of this land! NEVER!

[@POTIS1]

PSOLUN!

[@MancM]

@ElectraofMaced0n if he saved you from the persians then have you asked yourself why did your people betrayed him and his father to the persians and that is well known fact from the worlds history, btw I have more respect abuot hellenistic teachings then the modern scholars and religion teachings, thinks are too messed up so we to fix them, why not to leave them as they are and start as neighbors as friends btw the bilderbergs are the ones that created modern greece and gave its name and messed

[@MKDlover]

Yeah, but on national, not on club level. Can't wait for that day.

[@erhan7332]

ı supprt you and macedonia..

[@MancM]

@ElectraofMaced0n wow man you are so obsessed whit this issue which is not issue to discuss at all, we live side by side and we should live like that, but your pride is so high that you think the Universe is your, I thought that the jews are the only ones who think that the universe is theirs, but there is another who thinks the same

[@a_tall_angler]

i dont know anything about portuguese or spanish history or geography.......however pls tell me what if another group of people in bulgary find another country and call themselves thrace....shouldnt we have a problem????or the albanians call themselves epirus......that is bullshit.......even your ex p minister admitted that you are not macedonians u r slavs.....

[@dddfff3578]

fyr-macedonia is only Macedonia. Sparta is Greece. Macedonia is Macedonia fyrom

[@ackovski]

... something you can not understand.