Green Arrow on Smallville

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

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[@BaronX29]

I feel both have their strong suits. Justin was the first incarnation of the live action green arrow so there are gonna be a lot of people who will signify him as green arrow. His acting was great, with olivers intellect and humor against villains but there was also the dark side that we'd see every so often. Then we have Stephen Amell, more physical and serious to the prior green arrow. He dwells more to the darkness kind of like Batman. Amell's version sees himself as a monster having been on lian yu and the other places he's been. It's really hard to say who's the better Emerald Archer, but I have to give it to both actors for playing phenomenal portrayals of this awesome hero.

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

Very well said, and I agree!

[@NEC_Shades]

I think he's a great actor, he follows script and plays exactly how the format demands him to act, easily the best actor on any CW show (not like that's an oscar worthy titel)

[@MajesticJoey]

BYIFitness And you're a idiot 1. He's stating an opinion.. 2. What you were saying is an opinion not a fact so no need to shit on someone who likes Stephen Amell's version of The Green Arrow..

[@wrathofthewitchqueen]

@JR your opinion is wrong anyways

[@tikitiki8960]

JR supergirl cast?😂 I love that show but some of the scenes are a bit cringe.

[@Slice2099]

Watching Smallville again Justin was the perfect green arrow. It sucks that he never got his own show

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

I would have watched him in his own show!

[@sammyderrick8658]

I loved Green Arrow/Oliver Queen on Smallville...The dynamic that they created from season 8 to season 10 was FABULOUS!!!

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

I enjoyed it too!

[@o-wolf]

His suit/bow &quiver loadout has yet to be topped too.. real slick aesthetic.. if the costume dept still has it they should paint it red &give it to the new red arrow they introduce in titans

[@CyclopsWasRight]

That was a great flashback. Smallville was my favorite show during its run. Awesome video dude.

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

Thanks a lot, Thomas. I’m really glad you liked my video.

[@CyclopsWasRight]

Joe likes movies n stuff Indeed.. Did you end up making a video based on the Justice Society episode? That sounded like a must watch.

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

To be truthful, I’m nowhere near starting the Justice Society video yet. I’m right now finishing up editing a different video that I expect to post sometime in the next few days. Then I have a few others planned I’d like to work on soon. I really just meant the JSA video is something I’d like to do some day, but have no immediate plans to… But then again, if enough people leave comments like yours, that might motivate me to start the JSA video sooner.

[@jeremywhitfield4556]

Same

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

Thanks.

[@themastero9]

I'm 17, i was born in 1999, and I started Smallville when I was about 5, I loved it from the start, I grew up with smallville! Great video, very nostalgic for me.

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

You make me feel so old! :) But thanks, I’m glad you enjoyed the video.

[@darrenraphael]

Yeah, I was born in 1996 and watched smallville from 2003 till it ended.

[@ScoutSilico]

Oliver had the best, most relatable lines in the show. Justin Hartley was perfect.

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

He was a great!

[@sleeplesstortoise]

lol that CGI looks like that "Shrek is love Shrek is life" video..

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

Like I said, the CGI was far from impressive but I thought the writing was really good. That CGI series was for downloading on phones, and it was just thought of as a bonus for Smallville fans who wanted to know more about Oliver Queen’s back story.

[@jeremywhitfield4556]

Lmaoo

[@anarkizt]

It looked like they attempted to model the characters from the actors but used Photoshop instead of a modeling application.

[@bigstunna2049]

Hagi Bastian yea it's atrocious

[@jackrusio4918]

Hagi Bastian of course the CGI was'nt great and sometimes looked cheesy but Smallville has an historical value as the first modern superhero show(not always takeing the source matirial as a bible,but rather a guide): Arrow,the Flash,Leyends,Gotham and even Neverland or Riverdale are sons of Smallville(of course SuperGirl)and to DC comics it was a great laboratory of ideas(Dr Fate,Suicide Squad,Darkseid,and many other comic characters)in a time Marvel started to rule on the big screen

[@jackrusio4918]

Everybody talking about Tom Welling to appear in The Flash...but Justin Hartley also deserves to appear in ARROW (he put Oliver Queen's Character on the spotlight a decade before the Arrowverse)... Maybe now that Stephen Amell's Ollie has mentioned BRUCE WAYNE...He could play a more HiTech (Ironman kind of)BATMAN version that what we are used to(so that he can contrast with G.Arrow's dark vigilante tone)...maybe is time to do something different with the character, time for a Batmobile that it's a car and not a tank....time for Blue Cape and Steel Metalic Grey Armor...just saying

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

I'd also love to see Justin Hartley appear on Arrow. Would I like to see him play Bruce Wayne? It could be fun, but I seriously doubt it will happen.

[@subzfit]

That would be cool. Erica Durance (Lois Lane in Smallville) appeared in Supergirl.

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

@@subzfit I enjoyed seeing Erica Durance on Supergirl.

[@kfreeman19]

Justin Hartley is a better Oliver Queen. Stephen Amell is a better Green Arrow

[@bigstunna2049]

K Freeman couldn't have said it better myself

[@danielkeller7478]

K Freeman sorry i dont agree

[@HamidRoshaan]

I feel the same

[@UacnDinoo]

Stephen's GA is not comic accurrate it's like combination of Batman and Dexter Morgan

[@eandahunter9766]

K Freeman l like green olive hero there batman vs superman

[@VI_V2]

In the process of making a Smallville video, I kept running into your channel. Surprised you don't have more subscribers... but it's only a matter of time, my friend. Keep up the good work!

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

Thanks so much! When your Smallville video is posted, I'd love to see it!

[@TECHWON]

I've always loved green arrow as a supporting charecter on smallville it was good the time and it was always a fun watch.

[@CEDtalks85]

I like how Green Arrow gave Chloe a happy ending by marrying her. That was a really neat move.

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

Ok. I'm glad you liked it. I personally was not too crazy about it, but looking back I should have at least mentioned it in this video.

[@DRush76]

I have very fond memories of Justin Hartley as the Green Arrow. It would have been nice if Oliver's relationship with Chloe had been brought up, along with his role in the Phantom Zone story.

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

Thanks for watching and commenting… I personally was not a big fan of the relationship between Oliver and Chloe (I guess that’s why I didn’t mention it here). And if I remember correctly, Oliver was only in the Phantom Zone for one episode, right?It’s all just opinion, and my way of summing up the highlights of Oliver on Smallville. But we all watched the show with our own point of view. I’m glad you enjoyed those elements. Thanks for giving them a mention in the comments here.

[@loublou16]

I didn't like Chloe and Oliver either

[@noridayuhashim6872]

I think Green Arrow really deserved to be in Smallville. Cause after Clark became Superman, he may of course want to help people as many as he can. But when he sees news of disasters far away, he knows he only managed to help people in Smallville. So he went to a person he knows, Green Arrow. He become a part of Justice League. When to there"s disaster strikes, the League will inform him. Then he can help people far away.

[@angelaanaconda55]

Justin Hartley captured the character better imo. I use to love watching smallville while I was in high school 2005-2009.

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

I agree Hartley was great as Oliver / Green Arrow.

[@legodcbricks3306]

Justin Hartleys green arrow was actually a more accurate representation of the character, where as the cw turned stephen amells to be more like batman

[@velvin098]

I was 2nd year high school student when i saw arrow, justin casting it. Smallville ftw

[@pavloszimbrakos4410]

I think this is way off no one is better than Stephen amell

[@rhondathompson6942]

@@pavloszimbrakos4410 sm GAwas better

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

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[@JoaoPedro-sb5sq]

Just sad about the JSA being so brief. I was so amazed by the fact that DR. FATE appeared in a modern live-action film!

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

film?

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

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[@tonaloko2]

I would like a crossover between hartley and amell one day. flash por a bad guy fucks up and creates a dimentional rift and boom crossover

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

Sure! I would love to see such a crossover too.

[@jeremiahgeorge7272]

i agree fantastic idea

[@pavloszimbrakos4410]

It looks like elseworlds killed a version of this green arrow on earth 90 with the 90s flash being the only survivor

[@1samuelskates]

@@pavloszimbrakos4410ooooooooo you said a bad word

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

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[@rashb3994]

This reminded me of the more interesting and fun version of Cyborg. RIP to the dude who played him with a subtle and fun charisma. He was much more interesting than the completely lifeless version we got in the Justice League movie. I remember in Smallville him and Aquaman having some fun bro banter.

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

I agree Lee Thompson Young was a great Cyborg. RIP.

[@bobcatlewis87]

I rewatch smallville recently and he was a great green arrow

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

Hi Rel. I agree! I also really liked him as Green Arrow.

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[@evilvet]

I like that smallville's aquaman is now hawk in DC'S streaming Titans series. Titans has been pretty strong, and this week built up the hawk and dove story for hopefully bigger things.

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

I'm very excited to see what they do with Superboy in season 2 of Titans.

[@deBuchias]

Titans is amazing although I didn't understand this last season but I need to watch it again which I'm sure will be fun and hardly a chore lol

[@deBuchias]

Yeah I love them all

[@evilvet]

@@deBuchias well they ended hawk and dove. 😢 superboy was great in season 2. the writing is a mess.

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

Please check out my new video about Zatanna on Smallville kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z2KtgH-DfZhkj7c

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

Hi Eliyahu. That's an interesting idea... Could you tell me a little more about what you have in mind? Thanks.

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

Ok. You're suggesting I try to put together a video that shows - in chronological order - how Clark and Lex first met, how they became friends, and then all the things that slowly added up over the years causing them to become enemies... Is that more or less what you have in mind?

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

Ok. It's a good idea. It'd be very hard - because there was just so much of it over the seven seasons Lex was a regular. But I'll try to think about how I might be able to do it. Thanks!

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

Eliyahu, in all honesty: I have no idea. I can't promise I'm even going to make it at all. If I do, it won't be anytime soon... It's a good idea you came up with, and I'd really like to do it, but it's going to be extremely difficult to figure out which moment throughout the eight seasons I want to talk about as turning points in Clark and Lex's friendship - because there were just so many of them... I'm going to make a mental note of this idea, and try to think about it little by little, and see if I can come up with an idea for how to tell it as a good story... I realize this is not the answer you wanted to hear, but at least I'm being honest with you.

[@snowstorm2720]

This video deserves more likes , love it

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

Thank you! I’m so glad you love it. This video was posted less than two weeks ago, so hopefully it will get more views soon.

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

Of course, if you’d like to see this video get more views then you can always post it on Facebook, Twitter, or whatever, and try to help give it a little boost ;)

[@tonaloko2]

always hated that green arrow was a supporting charácter in the superman show. sometimes he was even more likable than clark himself. I always said just make a show about oliver and his friends......and then they did it

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

Would you have rather seen a spin-off with Justin Hartlely in the title role (in continuity with Smallville) than what we have now?

[@-phantastictin-665]

Joe likes movies n stuff that would be awesome!

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

Thanks! I think so too. I wonder if there are any fans of the current Arrow show who would NOT want to see that happen.

[@DarkAurora2002]

I'm glad they didn't do that. Smallville was good sometimes but it could also be very cheesy

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

I really liked Justin Hartley as Green Arrow. But I do think the ratings of the current Arrow show are better than that of a Smallville spin-off would have been. The truth is that Smallville’s ratings just went down over the years. So by the time Smallville ended, CW probably felt they had a better chance of gaining a following with a re-boot than making a show that only big Smallville fans could fully follow… I just hope fans of the current Arrow show are aware of the existence of Green Arrow on Smallville (it’s surprising how many younger fans I meet who like the new Arrow show yet have no idea the character was ever on Smallville). That’s why I made this video.

[@RickCarter-kb6vp]

Justin Hartley was very good on Smallville and really brought the Green Arrow character to life with his take...Less edgy and more of a playboy then the Arnell version he became a good rival for young Clark for Lois’s affections and then a trusted friend and ally... Justin has had a great career following the show first getting a chance to show some range doing a complex character on the long running soap The Young and Restless and really showing his acting chops on the NBC hit This Is Us...

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

Well said! I agree.

[@tahminahabeeb175]

Yess I am currently watching this is us

[@NishatShahriyar]

justin Harley did justice to the charachter...so did amell..

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

I agree! They were both good.

[@sebastianscott8317]

i just started watching your videos tonight and now I'm addicted to watching them they are great.

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

Thanks so much, Sebastian! I'm so glad you like them. I look forward to reading more comments on other videos.

[@sebastianfalu4238]

@@Joelikesmoviesnstuff I love Green Arrow's suit with sleeves in ep odessey

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

@@sebastianfalu4238 Yeah, it's a good one.

[@sebastianfalu4238]

@@Joelikesmoviesnstuff what do you mean

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

@@sebastianfalu4238 I mean I think it's a good suit.

[@EarthquakeStar]

When I realized that the Luthor/Queen conspiracy ran all the way back to the first episode with Lionel basically admiring his handiwork with young Lex sitting right next to him it was like, "It's in the genes..."

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

Yes.

[@-phantastictin-665]

I began watching smallville just for the green arrow because I green arrow has been my favorite superhero ever since the justice league unlimited cartoon and even more my favorite with the show arrow. I really like the smallville version and I'd think it would be cool if there was a small crossover for JH's green arrow and SA's green arrow. Not like a full episode but like a small 10 minute episode for a season DVD release or something haha

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

Really? I personally think that if they were going to get Justin Hartley involved with the current show, then they’d want to at least get one full episode out of him. But who knows?

[@SuccessforLifester]

I watched smallville roughly up to when clark friend went to work at metropolis. And Kristen kruek seemed to have left the show. After that I lost touch and didn't know that so many heroes appeared.

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

Yes, more and more heroes were brought on as the seasons went on. I’ll post some more videos soon about other heroes on Smallville. So please be sure to hit Subscribe if you’d like to see those.

[@SuccessforLifester]

Joe likes movies n stuff thank you. I don't think I could devote my time to rewatch this sitcom. I am currently watching Arrow though. Season five is good

[@ninefangthesniper]

I love these Smallville videos, nobody really talks about it anymore. This is really refreshing

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

Thanks so much! I'm glad you enjoy then. I'll have more Smallville videos posted soon, so please hit Subscribe!

[@ninefangthesniper]

Joe likes movies n stuff Aw that's awesome!! Can't wait to see more :)

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

It might be another two or three weeks, but a video about Smallville's Justice Society episode should be next. Please subscribe to make sure you'll be notified when it's posted.

[@robyn90703]

Justin Hartley did a truly amazing job on Smallville and I totally give him props on that and everything he did to make this series a great show. That topic you mentioned on him being a season series regular for too long, the thing is I have to disagree. It is to show off Justin's great work and talent. It shows Oliver helping Clark in different situations in later seasons and how much they need each other. As a matter of fact, in some ways they're not so different at all when it also comes to issues of parent losses. It shows a lot in the episode "Kandor". This intire show series is based on many life issues that everybody is going through these days. It happened to different characters on the show multiple times even Jason Teague in season 4. I'm sure you can recall.

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

Yeah, I remember Jason Teague in season 4.

[@boboh231]

very informative, really shows how much time and effort u put in for the research. Good job my guy

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

Thanks a lot. I really appreciate that.

[@Operation_Bagel]

And now he’s dead as revealed in the promo for Elsewords

[@samgeurdi6351]

TheBagelragel How’s he dead in earth 90? Smallville isn’t canonized in the arrow verse by CW. Besides there was no Barry Allen in Smallville either. Earth 90 is not the Smallville universe.

[@Operation_Bagel]

Sam Geurdi The Monitor probably brought those heroes there to that world as a test and he was one of the ones who failed and died

[@samgeurdi6351]

TheBagelragel Now you’re just making stuff up to fit your narrative. As the monitor already said. He tested the heroes of each specific earth.

[@Operation_Bagel]

Sam Geurdi I said probably as I was making a guess, because how else do you explain two dead green arrows and one of them looks like the smallville one?

[@Mr-oj4pi]

Sam Geurdi if you look closely you can see the smallville green arrow dead

[@arrowslice6741]

Great video man. I even re watched the series recently and still missed a lot of this stuff, subscribed for sure.

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

Thanks so much, Arrow Slice! I’m happy to have you as a subscriber.

[@davidg5629]

Oliver was needed in Smallville to play lancelot to Clark's goody-two-shoes Arthur. Hartley did a great job.

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

I agree, Justin Hartley did a great job!

[@friedfrog5447]

I always found Clark boring and dry in personality and to up his own arse. Oliver was always more interesting.

[@naxoxz]

Very well done, you deserve more views

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

Thank you very much! I’m glad you enjoyed it. This video was posted less than two weeks ago, so hopefully with time it will get more views. But again, thank you for the compliments!

[@robinghoshal6771]

I personally can't stand arrow it insults who Ollie it on a fundamental level. Not to mention how it treats Black Canary, Katie Cassidy deserves better than that. But I absolutely loved Smallville's take on Oliver to the point where I like him more than a lot of other versions especially Arrow. He was jokey, political (to an extent) and quite easy on the eyes too. By the way Mia did return in Smallville season 11 as Speedy. Awesome video! I love that you showed how awesome this version of Ollie is.

[@localcritic4490]

Season 11 was another tie in right?

[@Cheesusful]

easy on the eyes? I'd say Hot AF :p

[@ManNamedEd]

Great Video!! Justin Hartley was SO Good as Green Arrow!!

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

Thanks, Ed!

[@DrSoapstealsmemes]

Pretty sure Green Arrow is meant to be a cocky, quippy rich guy, not Batman with a bow.

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

I don't know. I think the creation of Green Arrow took a lot of inspiration from Batman.

[@DrSoapstealsmemes]

Joe likes movies n stuff In some aspects, Yh, I see what you mean, but even as someone who kinda likes the arrowverse Green Arrow has always had a more vibrant personality.

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

Well are we talking about certain portrayals, or the original creation?

[@DrSoapstealsmemes]

Joe likes movies n stuff At this point I’m not even so sure what Green Arrow’s original portrayal was like, similar to most other characters they’ve gone through lots of changes. I suppose most modern versions have portrayed him more similar to the Smallville version. My first comment was a little too harsh on the idea, Green Arrow was definitely inspired by Batman and they have some similarities but I suppose I just preferred his personality being the defining difference between the two

[@HandlesMcCandles]

Great video, was a big fan of Smallville. Really liked the aspect that Clarke could speak honestly to another Vigilante/Hero

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

Thanks a lot, I'm glad you liked the video.

[@ebriblet449]

Still my favorite green arrow. Not quite as physical as Amel but I think he understands the character.

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

Yeah, I think both Hartley and Amell were great.

[@jarrietfair6373]

I love the green arrow Smallville. He is a great guy and hero

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

Yes!

[@phrophetsamgames]

The best Hartley scene is where he as Oliver has an argument with Clark about killing Lex Luthor.

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

I might pick something from the episode Justice.

[@JuanHinojosaNewYork]

I never saw SMALLVILLE but glad you made this video.

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

Thanks! I’d still recommend you watch Smallville (or at least some of it). But if you don’t then I’m glad my videos can show you at least some highlights.

[@catsofsherman1316]

I prefer the Justin Hartley version of green arrow. The arrow version is too much brooding and melodrama.

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

I think they're both good in different ways.

[@somebuddyX]

This was a neat video! I remember being really excited when GA appeared in smallville and I feel like it breathed new life into the show. That mercy reef/aquaman pilot was fun too, i think it had some cool ideas about future storylines and i liked there being a cool fighter pilot lady.

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

Thanks so much!

[@slophish971]

How do you make a 10 year series about Clark Kent before becoming Superman, seems like a 1 or 2 season thing.

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

Many people agreed that the show went on much longer than it should have (or if they wanted to keep it going that many seasons then they should have had him become Superman)… Was this video the first time you ever hear of the show Smallville?

[@Eternaldarkness3166]

I didn't become a fan until season 4. I was like, oh there's a Superman show? I'll take a look at it sometime when it's all said and done, but everyone kept talking about it and I decided to take a look, I therefore became a fan of the series. What's different in shows today vs shows back then, is that there's no mid-season finale, no B season. I as a fan can see why people think the show was so long. But, if it was filmed today, there'd be an A and B season. The A season is before the Fortress is shown, the mid-season finale would be the Fortress being created and Clark talking with his father, everything that happened in that episode. Season B is everything after the show. A lot of people feel like the second half of Smallville is a totally different show than the first 1, which it is. But, most of today's B season shows are a lot more different than their A season.

[@bigbabysld]

@David...That's how I felt and that's why I wasn't a fan of SMALLVILLE, I fell off after the 1st season, I thought he would gradually become supes after the 3rd season, I was getting frustrated and stopped watching, I came back once for the Bart Allen episode which was great.

[@jtparker6286]

quinton cornelius yeah doomsday fight should’ve been a lot cooler

[@MANJYOMETHUNDER111]

Dude, you left out most of seasons 9-10, which were the real meat of his character development.

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

By all means, please specify some of your favorite stories of Green Arrow on Smallville. If there are things you think I should have mentioned in the video, please write about them in the comments. Thank you.

[@purplewraith]

In smallville season 6 episode 11 you forgot at the end of the episode they are asked what they where going to call their team and Oliver says "I was thinking about something with the word justice in it"

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

Yeah, I remember that. You think I should have mentioned it here?

[@purplewraith]

Joe likes movies n stuff yeh

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

Ok. Thanks commenting.

[@hamzahkingali3363]

Who do u think was better cw arrow or smallville. Imo they both show different sides of green arrow and are both great

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

I agree with you.

[@sarcasmxkate]

Justin Hartley is a far better Green Arrow, but he also had the more accurate and better written version of the character. I feel for Stephen because he's actually a solid, good dude who deserves a better character arc. He's written poorly most of the time so saying he's terrible or the worst, isn't fair. He does the best with what he's given, 100% all the time, and I respect that.

[@Cassandra765]

I agree with this completely.

[@kazuhirala]

Do you consider the Season 11 Smallville Comice book series as canon, I’ve read them and their pretty good. Oliver and many of the Smallville Justice League make appearances even Batman

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

Yes, I do consider them to be.

[@майя-х1ъ]

Its a pity that justin didnt get his show, i loved him sow much, best superhero ever

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

I wouldn't call him the "best superhero ever," but he was good.

[@mongkmorine8574]

Agree

[@varisrevolver4061]

Reunion sent a shiver down my spine. It was just wow. But also predictable

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

I'm curious: why did it send a shiver?

[@varisrevolver4061]

The whole some what paranormal side of it. Yes I called it who it was but it was still scary

[@ZegetaX1]

Just saw your arrow and supergirl video and thought they were great so going to subscribe I hope you do other smallville videoes

[@thehulk-vo4js]

Cw arrow is too much like batman

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

Well, the most basic ideas the Smallville writers wrote about Green Arrow were just revised stories of what they originally wanted to write abut Batman. The idea of Oliver Queen having attended boarding school with Lex Luthor, and Queen starting to form the JLA, etc, were all ideas the writers originally wanted to do with young Bruce Wayne.

[@robinghoshal6771]

Joe likes movies n stuff yeah but they still made him funny, light hearted and political at points. He wasn't as mentally damaged and as dark as Bruce Wayne. Arrow just makes oliver into batman and makes him quite the arse. He passes a pro gun law which is so far removed from who Oliver is meant to be.

[@thehulk-vo4js]

No I mean the aroow verse one

[@NEC_Shades]

Same story, they weren't allowed to do batman so they chose his close but not quite counterpart arrow to portray ideas who would've gone to a batman show otherwise. Only later after a lot of backlash Warner decided to give more creative freedom to their shows (thus resulting in Gotham). Altho i do share your opinion, Arrow us supposed to be a bit lighter, i really love their early seasons even if they don't represent comic-book Green Arrow. Problem is CW does only knows action and drama, nothing inbetween so we'll never get the full one.

[@thehulk-vo4js]

Thanks

[@VengefulBatz]

Since CRISIS is including everyone in it, HOPEFULLY Justin Hartley has a small cameo appearance.

[@tatsuthealmighty3776]

VengefulBatz he died in Elseworlds lmao

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

I guess as of right now, it's still technically possible he could appear in episodes 4 and 5 of Crisis. But I doubt it.

[@nicholaskurta]

Joe likes movies n stuff Marc said there are still cameos unknown

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

Yes!

[@johnmoraites6020]

Justin Hartley was great as Green Arrow. he made me a G A Fan. would love to see a Smallville Movie 2017-18.

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

I agree Justin Hartley was great as Green Arrow. I really doubt there will ever be a Smallville movie, though I’d love to see one.

[@emilycathers2505]

I need to get somthing off my mind... In the comic books Oliver Queen (Arrow) ends up with Laurel Lance (Black Canary). But in Smallville he ends up with Chloe Sullivan (Watchtower /Overwatch). In The Arrow, Oliver ends up with Felicity Smoak (Watchtower/ Overwatch) I find it weird how both shows ended up having the tech girl end up with the hero instead of the hero and a hero. Also they on both shows they both have kids (unless you don't consider Felicity williams father in Arrow) Oliver and Chloe have Johnathan (Named after Clark's father) and in Arrow Felicity is practically a mother to William because Oliver is doing double duty with being the mayor and GA. Any thoughts???

[@emilycathers2505]

Also I subscribed because of this video.

[@BLACKSTA361]

Well now they even have a daughter together. Mia smoak

[@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259]

yeah idk why they hate black canary so much.

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

@@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259 I don't hate Black Canary!

[@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259]

@@Joelikesmoviesnstuff No not you. The show.

[@stephanbrkr]

Awesome video. I love Arrow, but never watched Smallville. Very interesting to see how much Arrow featured there.

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

Thanks so much, Stephan. I really appreciate your comments.

[@elliotkingaby5312]

Always been a fan of Green arrow and was so happy they brought him into Smallville. And for the most part I liked what they did with him. Personally I prefer Stephen Amells version but I think that's more due to it being a little darker and the writing. Both actors did a great job and I was really hoping we would have seen him do a cameo in Crisis along with Tom and all the other great choices. But definitely think he was one of the best characters they introduced in Smallville despite his sunglasses hehe

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

Yeah, it would have been nice to see the two Green Arrows meet right before Amell's Arrow died.

[@thewhitewolf7886]

Amell does a great job for his version of Oliver but for me Hartley takes the cake.

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

I think they were both great!

[@SteveCowlishaw]

Lex's mansion exterior is the same exterior they used for Ollie's house on Arrow. (Also the X-Men mansion lol) I'm 50/50 with them reboot/spin-off. On one hand you already have the characters established, the shows been going for 10 years and it's kinda fully fledged, they could use Blue Beetle and Booster Gold back then etc, but on the other hand, those characters stories werent very good, and most of those characters were basically done, or dead, or otherwise wrote out of it. Justin Hartley in a spin-off Arrow show would've been great if they could've just worked out some of the issues from the main show, they'd have to change some events and recast specific characters, like Slade Wilson on Arrow currently is the better actor than Michael Hogan from Smallville, but it really could've worked. You could still bring in Grant Gustin as Barry Allen, have the exact same Flash show as we already got, and then Supergirl could get her own show with Laura Vandervoort instead. I do like the Arrowverse though and probably wouldnt change it. A multiverse crossover with Smallville could potentially work though, I really want Laura Vandervoort to come back as Supergirl or even Indigo (a hero this time), if she came back and changed her name to Powergirl, that could work really well imo.

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

Hi Tydeus. I agree with a lot of what you said. But I think CW's biggest concern was with their ratings. And the simple fact is: Smallvile's Season 10 did not have nearly as many viewers as Season 1... So CW probably figured they'd have more viewers if audiences weren't required to have watched every episode of Smallville to follow the Arrow show... I too would have loved to see spin-offs of the Smallville universe. But at the same time, I'm happy with the way things ended up working out (with the Arrowverse shows we have today).

[@deBuchias]

Yeah Jystin Hartley really made me sit up and want to know more about Green Arrow that I had only seen briefly in The justice league cartoons and had cropped up from time to time in comics from my childhood. But greatly portrayed by Justin Hartley as Green Arrow as I didn't know too much about the character previous to Smallville but as you say I can see a similarity to Bruce Wayne as being a billionaire and having a talent with a bow and arrow after being shipwrecked on the Island which thanks to the TV show I understand alot better than I did. I love the gadgets of Green Arrow and again see a resemblance to Bruce Wayne. I often wondered what happened to the Aqua-man TV show as I did catch the pilot episode somewhere online about 15 years ago if I remember correctly. But Justin Hartley played an excellent Oliver Queen who becoms best friends with the young Clark Kent. Some really great episodes...

[@CatsClaw44]

The Green Arrow character was actually treated as a second Batman in the comics.

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

I'm not sure what you mean by " sddcomd Batman." But I agree Green Arrow was written on Smallville like he was Batman with a different name.

[@CatsClaw44]

@@Joelikesmoviesnstuff I meant second but my autofill screwed up. Lol! That's why the Green Arrow was created in the comics and why his background is similar to Batman's.

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

Okay, haha

[@aarongarcia5590]

Lannis31 yeah but his character is nothing like Batman’s

[@andreasm3535]

It could be awesome if we see Smallville's Green Arrow in Arrowverse, with Cisco powers it's easy as an alternate version.

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

That would be fun! I’d like to see that.

[@Eternaldarkness3166]

In a lot of ways, Smallville helped revitalize the Green Arrow comic as well.

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

Yes! I would agree.

[@Smartfunnyandlazy]

holy shit i thought i would remember way more about this show. I thought cyborg never made an appearance but I semi remember that episode now. Forgot all about Black Canary, and Speedy. I think i may have missed a lot in season 8, but i do remember when the show became more about Ollie. To me the show went down hill after the actor who played Lex left, or was killed off or whatever.

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

Thanks! You also might want to watch my video about Supergirl on Smallville kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJKceqZ3m817mNk

[@reein4254]

R.I.P Arrow Season 8... I loved that show!

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

R.I.P.

[@Imundeecoverofdark]

Wait...he dies??!?!!

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

@@Imundeecoverofdark Not on Smallville.

[@Imundeecoverofdark]

Phew

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

@@Imundeecoverofdark Have you seen how his story ends on the Arrow show?

[@autobotproductions1244]

say what you will about Smallville's Green Arrow in comparison to the Arrowverse, but for my two cents, Oliver Queen is a much better character than Clark Kent. for one simple reason. Oliver is taking action. he goes out to find the wrong of the world rather than wait for them to come to him, or be personally linked to the problem, causing him to drown in self-pity. he got stuff done, and used his past as motivation to become better. I just found him more engaging

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

By "better" do you mean better in terms or morals, or more interesting for viewers? Or both?

[@autobotproductions1244]

@@Joelikesmoviesnstuff both I suppose.

[@nemass26]

It would have been interesting at the time to have him play owlman in an alternate universe during the later run of smallville. Or to have had him as oilman go against ben affleck's batman

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

That could have been fun.

[@ZorroFox-do9oe]

This is my favorite live action version of green arrow

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

Cool!

[@2Good2BeTrue45]

Justin Hartley was and is STILL the best live action representation of Green Arrow. Stephen Amell is just a wannabe Batman Lite, he is nothing like Green Arrow at all. Even the creators admitted they wanted to make Arrow exactly like the Nolan Batman series. They didn't even want powers in the show at all........until they wanted to ve apart of the DCEU so bad they walked back on everything they promised and their own rules but still didn't get picked up anyway

[@mattmccullough1093]

I Notice it after going back and watching the season 1 episode 1. That was a huge Easter egg that a lot of fans missed. Including me the first time.

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

I will admit that I also missed it the first time I saw it. But I did read it online, and go back to look for it long before the character of Oliver Queen was seen on the show.

[@PictureBookDrama]

I would have liked to see a mention of the tension and eventual friendship with Hawkman. Plus a mention of the bachelor party episode would have been nice since we find out Oliver married Chloe when they were drunk and they stayed married.

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

Thanks. My next video should be a review of Smallville's Justice Society episode, and that will definitely mention the tension between Green Arrow and Hawkman. Please subscribe so you'll know as soon as it's posted.

[@mattmccullough1093]

I still wish that a young Batman would have been in Smallville.

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

Nobody wished for that more than the producers of Smallville.

[@FGKaye]

You never mentioned Oliver Queen's romance with Chloie Sullivan. Also, when they did the reboot, why didn't they use Justin Hartley ?

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

I personally was not the biggest fan of the romance between Oliver and Chloe. But you’re probably right that it should have at least been mentioned here.I don’t know CW’s exact reasons for choosing a reboot over a spin-off. I’m guessing they analyzed things to take their best guess as to which would get more viewers, and they decided it was probably in a reboot.

[@loublou16]

No why mention it if you did like it I could write a list of point why they were just terrible together. No love story their watch it properly it full of flaws.

[@Eternaldarkness3166]

a reboot is something that gets remade with the original content/canon in mind. Jurassic World, Independence Day 2. Mad Max. Ect. Arrow can't be classified as a reboot or remake because it's on it's own entity far removed from Smallville's canon. A reboot has to have something that ties in the characters and story from it's original format. There's nothing remotely there that ties anything in together with this Arrow vs Smallville.

[@ROTPx]

I liked the first two seasons of Arrow, but overall, the show tanked in my opinion as the seasons went on. I still did like certain seasons and storylines, though. What I didn't like about Stephen Amell's Arrow is that they made him very rigid. He was always one thing, a brooding character, very dark and stoic, while Ollie in Smallville was multi-layered. He had his moments of being brooding and depressed, but he was also more than just brooding. He was still a playboy sometimes, very sarcastic, very charismatic, very in the moment. He wasn't just one thing, and that's what I loved about his character. Very real and deep, but also moments of lightheartedness. Arrow, the show, was not as well-rounded in the way they portrayed Ollie. If I had to choose, Smallville. If they had kept the show and expanded on his character a bit more, the first two seasons of Arrow would have been awesome. The way Tommy portrayed Arrow in that one episode was essentially how Arrow was in Smallville. Witty and smart.

[@MarkLLawrence]

I think I watched Smallville up to season 4 where Clark rode off on a motorcycle and had a ring that had red Kryptonite. Looks like a lot of things happened afterwards.

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

Sounds like you're actually describing the end of season 2 :)

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

@Jace I agree :)

[@anastasias.7186]

Justin was perfect for Green Arrow 😭💔

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

He was great!

[@dannybenhur6123]

Lionel was dope character tho....Perfectly portrayed a creepy and a complex villain...

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

Good actor. He was also in Shazam! (as well as a lot of other things)

[@TheVarietyMix]

Very nice video. I thought you did a great job with the info here. I also thought they were gonna use Justin Hartley for the spin off. I really liked him as the green arrow. Although the New guy does quite well with the character also. I subbed you.

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

Thanks, I'm glad you liked it and happy to have you as a subscriber. I would have loved to see a Green Arrow spin-off starring Justin Hartlety. I'm guessing the CW felt that Smallville's following kept shrinking over the years, and nobody who stopped watching Smallville would give a chance to a spin-off, so they had a better chance of the show being a success if they just re-booted it. That's my speculation of what the people at CW were thinking.

[@varisrevolver4061]

Green arrow on Smallville. Me: Drugs

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

???

[@varisrevolver4061]

@@Joelikesmoviesnstuff in season 6 he used drugs to not feel pain. Than quit being Green Arrow. Trained Mia and became the green arrow again eventually

[@williamgray1221]

Still one of the best dc shows EVER

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

Yes! The show had it's good episodes and it's bad episodes. But at it's best, it was GREAT!

[@columbatiberius2176]

I did enjoy Arrow when it started, but as time has gone on I really find myself wondering what if they had gone with a Green Arrow spin-off of Smallville.

[@columbatiberius2176]

@Chris Rowe Flash and Supergirl would likely still have happened. Supergirl was started by a different network, so what happened with Supergirl may well have happened anyway, though my headcanon of it would imagine Laura Vandervoort may not have been cast as Indigo. Supergirls of Two Earths? Flash also may have still happened. Impulse was Bart Allen and he has been killed off in the Smallville comic and confirmed to have really been from the future so they could have introduced Barry Allen played by Gustin and largely done Flash the same as it has been done. Main difference would be that Green Arrow would be older and publicly known, with an already existing Justice League, Justice Society, and a Young Justice/ Teen Titans group. As such, Legends probably wouldn't have happened and instead they would have given us a live-action CW series Young Justice.

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

We'll never know for sure.

[@sammyderrick8658]

I would love it if Justin Hartley could make an appearance on Arrow...as a special guest star...preferably as a hero...

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

I would have loved that too!

[@nemass26]

Justin Hartley is just a talented guy and did a good job with what he had been given with his portrayal of green arrow/Oliver queen. something that can be done with if a decision is made to get justin Hartley part of the DCEU is to cast Hartley as owlman and have hartley's oilman from the crime syndicate fight against Ben Affleck's Batman that would be really awesome to see. to see Justin Hartley get a chance to show case More of his acting talent

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

Sounds like it would have been fun.

[@robertocervantes412]

estoy enamorado de justin hartley as green arrow...lo amó.....

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

I don't speak Spanish. Can anyone please translate this?

[@thesotegamer3164]

I love how Bart Allen is friends with the rest of justice league before his grandpa

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

I'm not sure if Barry Allen (Bart's grandpa) even exists in the Smallville universe.

[@eyedragongaming6371]

@@Joelikesmoviesnstuff he probably does but maybe hes not a speedster

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

Yeah, I guess if his grandson exists in that universe, he must.

[@eyedragongaming6371]

@@Joelikesmoviesnstuff that makes the most sense although i wonder why the showrunners used bart instead of Barry

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

In the comic books - at the time when the first Smallville episode with Bart aired - Barry was dead, and Bart was the Flash.

[@mikebreeden6071]

I really enjoyed this. Thanks.

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

You're welcome. Thank you for watching and letting me know you liked it.

[@SouLeozinho]

to explain to people that are curious, pre justice league and young justice (from the cartoon blip blop cop cop cop) have the same name: "the team"

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

haha!

[@misstranqui9132]

Although NOW I'm all for maintaining End Game w/ 'Black Canary' I Loved that in "Smallville" it was w/ 'Chloe', Best original character from that series.

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

Great character!

[@dragonballtalk8527]

I enjoyed the later seasons of smallville

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

Better than the earlier seasons?

[@dragonballtalk8527]

@@Joelikesmoviesnstuff yes why did it take 4 years to respond

[@expensivemagic4754]

Nice video. Surprisingly interesting!

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

Thanks so much, ExpensiveMagic!

[@Redpandaherovideos]

Ironically he followed me on twitter But then he unfollowed me a week later ;-;

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

I’m sorry, who are you talking about?

[@Redpandaherovideos]

Joe likes movies n stuff Green Arrow ;) or Justin Hartley

[@Joelikesmoviesnstuff]

Justin Hartley followed you on Twitter? Wow!

[@eandahunter9766]

The Red Panda Hero my favorite hero superman