Green Coffee Beans: Bargain Or Rip-Off?

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@davidmaurice1294 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for making this video, very helpful! Believe it or not, there aren't many that go into this much detail into examining quality. The way you explain and make associations really helps with building an intuition. I've been roasting for almost a couple years now, but have been relying on feel mostly, along with enhancing my process/technique with videos like yours. This video is the first one that really helped me better understand defects. It's not terribly difficult to spot defects, but finding videos that discuss each type, how they got that way, and how they affect the roast/taste is pretty sparse. Most talk about a couple of major defects and gloss over the details. Yours has been the most thorough I've come across so far. One thing I was wondering about is bean size. With pretty much every batch I'm seeing a definite distribution of sizes. Most fall within a certain range, but there typically some significantly smaller and larger beans. Do you have thoughts on whether or not to exclude those? I imagine the ones on the far end of the spectrum roast differently.

@wiredgourmet 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks. It's interesting, but the churning mass of beans distributes the heat pretty well, so individual size differences don't usually translate into uneven cooking. Variations in density and maturity will show up as color diversity, but size itself, not so much. With some cheap commercial beans you can get a mixture of cultivars, and then you'll really notice a color spread :)

@davidmaurice1294 3 жыл бұрын

@@wiredgourmet Ah, I see. Actual density will be comparable, irrespective of size. As long as you're working with the same type of been and not a variety of cultivars, they should roast similarly (provided my pre-roast picking is good).

@wiredgourmet 3 жыл бұрын

@@davidmaurice1294 Well, pretty much. Immatures tend to be on the small side, and also tend to roast light. But all things being being equal, I find that size is a minor variable.

@tomb2289 3 жыл бұрын

Really interesting, thanks!

@wiredgourmet 3 жыл бұрын

My pleasure!

@ahmedsawni862 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you , value content 👍

@wiredgourmet 2 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

@handymanhandyman156 2 жыл бұрын

I have green beans coffee from Chiapas . In Tennessee.ihave 22 pounds

@alexalexxis170 3 жыл бұрын

I noticed you live in Dublin. Have you found a source of quality green beans, locally? If not, where do you get green beans from? Thank you. Alex

@wiredgourmet 3 жыл бұрын

I haven't tried any local outfits. I get low-cost beans from Redber in the UK. They give quantity discounts so I usually buy 10 kg at a time to save money. If you want specialty beans, there are scores of UK suppliers. Not sure which ones to recommend though, as I find that cheap beans taste fine so long as they're fresh :)

@alexalexxis170 3 жыл бұрын

@@wiredgourmet Thank you very much. I will look into it. I imagine there's import taxes + vat, although I found a company in Northern Ireland (discountcoffee ie) that assured me I will pay nothing extra, since there are special arrangements in place between Ireland & NI.

@wiredgourmet 3 жыл бұрын

@@alexalexxis170 Oh, yes, I've dealt with them. I just thought of them as UK. Good people IMHO. Understand that at those prices, you're going to see enough defects to want to pick through before roasting. But you know, bean quality and flavor are kinda independent of each other :)

@alexalexxis170 3 жыл бұрын

@@wiredgourmet Having read a recent article (regarding fairtrade) saying that green coffee is bought at around 3$/kg, I thought that 10€/kg (what discountcoffee.ie charges for most of their beans) is a price that would ensure hight quality and a good bit of profit for everyone. What is a fair price for good quality beans? Is there any difference in the cup when going for beans that score above 80? (I'm clueless to how these scores translate to taste).

@wiredgourmet 3 жыл бұрын

@@alexalexxis170 True, but the supply chain is long with many greedy hands involved. The producers get shafted worst of all. Real specialty-grade greens that don't require any picking before roasting usually retail for €15 to €20 per kg. As for flavor, really, it's subjective. I've had cheap commercial Brazillians that taste amazing, and fine specialty beans that bored me. My motto: If it tastes good, it IS good.