TOP 10 *WORST* WEAPONS IN PHANTOM FORCES.. (in my opinion)

[@SomeSteven]

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[@gloriousgloria917]

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[@Aerialsimba3257]

oil

[@fredprousa]

YOU SUCK THE BFG 50 IS THE BEST WEAPON TO EVER EXIST IN PHANTOM FORCES

[@deadchannel408]

saying the m1918 is bad is like saying sliced bread made the world a worse place ngl

[@lazerquest3264]

I mean, if you wanted to conserve ammo and reduce recoil, just switch to the slower fire rate (350 rpm). It still keeps the 2-3 shot ttk with a bit of a trade off.

[@henry-c7g]

It did though

[@eltrolololol2563]

@@lazerquest3264 I think you missed the prt where he said “stock performance”.

[@r10101]

Furthermore it's the only LMG in the game that is capable of a one hit headshot at close range... very close range with the carbine barrel and Hollow Point but still

[@tomjones7676]

You only press v it’s still stock??

[@dustial]

Alternative title: flaming on LMGs

[@f6f-5hellcat99]

Yeah they really are kinda just the worst category.

[@yeetyt1770]

​@@f6f-5hellcat99they were the best, but stylis had to nerf them. M60 is still op

[@yeetyt1770]

​@@f6f-5hellcat99plus, the hamr is really good

[@badideagenerator2315]

The worst weapon in the game is whichever one i'm currently using.

[@PrototypeMoxie]

Same

[@Shy_Abi]

*RELEASE ME!* *RELEASE ME!*

[@Zar4508]

Same

[@duck653]

Steven Steven on the wall will you oil up for us all?

[@Requinpascontent]

What the f*** ?????

[@MadCerCells]

yes pwease 🥺🥺

[@wept2_]

we have waited far too long 💔💔

[@basswhole1391]

absolutely diabolical comment

[@jukemastr]

👁️👄👁️👍

[@frickenidiotgod4439]

aug hbar and m1918a2 are both flames with hbar being basically an extend mag for auga1 and the m1918a2 being a really powerful battle rifle that got put in the lmg category mostly for "historical accuracy" as far as i can tell (all of this is just my opinion)

[@luiskaylingvidallu4867]

Hbar is good but out of the meta, it cannot 4hk all rangos (aug a1 only with ap) and can’t 3 shot up close so the scar HAMR is basically better because it has torso multipliers (only thing it has to heat up) Conclusion: Stylis buff hbar

[@SomeSteven]

Hbar is better with attachments, but based on stock use, I don't like it. As for the BAR, the magazine capacity is the part that ruins it

[@DoftenAvTomhet]

Sure, ​@@SomeSteven, but there's another firerate selector for the BAR that gives it around 315-ish RPM. It's viable for all ranges then. P.S. Love your videos, albeit I don't agree with everything you say such as "SASS 308 bad". I love it, personally.

[@fullofnightmares]

steven went from a parking ticket (naming the BAR bad) to a death penalty by firing squad when the Scar HAMR popped up in the list.

[@SomeSteven]

LMAOOOO my bad. I actually really like the HAMRA, I just HATE the ramp up mode. Otherwise, the stats are great.

[@tycoonjeffyboyMkII]

@@SomeSteven Ramp-up is pretty annoying, yeah. I guess if you just look at the HAMR IAR's base stats, you could make a strong case for it being kinda awful. However, the STANAG magazine and a good recoil setup will turn it into a DMR lol. Speaking of which (appreciate my smooth transition here), my personal favorite HAMR IAR no recoil setup is as follows: - PM-II - Muzzle Brake - Vertical, Stubby, or anything you find to be more useful grip - Blue Laser - STANAG 30rnd mag

[@a__fiend_]

brotha the sass 308 is a point and click adventure game easy mode

[@Vampire_EGirl]

Fun fact, .416 Barrett INCREASES the aim choke on the SFG 50 Wish I knew that before I bought the conversion kit

[@RaresMadness]

Ooh... Double BFG 50.

[@cslearn3044]

What does aim choke mean

[@tmstv5561]

@@cslearn3044bullet won’t go exactly where you’re aiming.

[@cslearn3044]

@@tmstv5561 tonk

[@JohnMkrv]

​@@cslearn3044Basically spread, it's the shotgun spread, but with one single pellet

[@datderian]

the hamr went from being okay to the best gun in the game and then they nerfed it and made it completely useless

[@A-metal-bar]

nearly slower ak47 with weird recoil

[@tycoonjeffyboyMkII]

The M1918 was designated a Fusil Automatique by the French, "or Machine Gun/Automatic Gun." The American government actually considered it a battle rifle, which is where that Browning Automatic Rifle (BAR) designation comes from. The only reason the gun is misidentified as an LMG is that American troops often trained and fought with French lingo in WWI, so when the original M1918 BAR was introduced alongside the ChauChaut in 1918, troops instinctually referred to it as a "Machine Gun" as the French would. However, the BAR is truthfully a battle/assault rifle, and it should be compared to those weapons - NOT LMGs. I find it to be a fantastic gun, personally, but I see your point.

[@princesspupcake1269]

I always hated the O-BRUH-z, simply because it lacks the scaling damage-range of the Mosin for whatever reason... they easily could've given it the same mechanic, and just scaled down the range a bit, so it would be a little better for close-range one-taps. (also, remove 8mm ammo, it's a crutch for stinky bad dummy players)

[@ig88s204]

the biggest problem with the L86 is the fact it has lmg reload time with a 30 round mag. The thing with the recoil is that the shot pattern isnt too bad with a proper setup, its just super jittery

[@doomnaybor]

I used it before the RPK lemme be honest it's not good but I still used it when I didn't have a recent option lol

[@Bane-ko5ts]

The 223. reload is also inaccurate as the reload completes when you shoulder the weapon and not when you finish inserting the mag which is very annoying

[@oneoddturtle]

its basically an lmg... with none of the upsides of an lmg. and also all the downsides of an lmg.

[@tyrannicalsyrup5603]

Yall remember when the L86LSW was so broken when it shook everyone’s screens?

[@badideagenerator2315]

It's so weird that it costs money to unfold the stock on the FAL Para shorty

[@KudoRedfox]

I guess Payday 2 and PF has something in common

[@troopermlg]

yelling and screaming in the comments rn (bc steven said i could)

[@rainbowmouse3war382]

You can also think of the choke in the sfg 50 as a shot gun because of the choke it sometimes dont go exactly where its desired like a shotgun

[@legendaryignitor]

You're right about the aim/hip choke, that stat adds spread to the shotguns and is also on the mgv-176, and I think a few assault rifles have it too.

[@yang_not]

me who enjoys using every weapon on this list: 😔

[@Magnus_Carlsen.]

valid opinion, however, i believe that maybe you should make a video about the same gun list but re arranged based on best setup performance

[@Jofska]

do people really get angry about other people's opinions in PF?

[@gloriousgloria917]

Unfortunately, yes. The immature ones 🦒👀🗽.

[@teemu4040]

They are insecure asf

[@onionsmaster]

I only get mad if they dont agree that the zip 22 is the best gun in the game even tho it is

[@TheRagingGamer1]

@@onionsmasteralways has been the best. Also funi gun hehehehehehe

[@janethomson9877]

@@gloriousgloria917 what do these emojis together mean?

[@cheeseboy969]

the sass just kinda has a specific use case tbh, personally I use it with an smg for maps like mirage, where a decent chunk of encounters is gonna be long range. I remember once doing 40 something popping heads just by using the sass, but I'll agree, stock performance is bad, once you get a scope it's decent

[@SomeSteven]

I say all the time that every weapon has a use and can be used well, but I very much consider myself an average player, so weapons like the sass, or even the scout are kinda useless for me because of their skill ceiling.

[@haiphong-ongthebee2424]

is mirage a real phantom forces map tho

[@Onyxx6]

Hey Steven! I was messing around in the test place when i found THIS SETUP: L85A2 Kousaku Sight (i dont think it matters) Loudener Romanian Grip Yellow Laser .22 LR (I wasnt going for damage but it has NO RECOIL AT ALL. NONE.)

[@BrolafGoated]

3:42 did you ever used the an 94 iron sights??

[@Patryk_5689]

m1903 defualt sight

[@Ludwik_the_silly_bnuyy]

​@@Patryk_5689 with that old sight magnification, the M1903's irons were awesome imo. AN-94 irons tho... theyre truly horrible. Even more than the Aug A2/Aug Hbar's default irons

[@ThanhBaoNguyen-et3iq]

Cannon setup NTW-20: Sagittarius 40x scope Long barrel Stubby grip Marksman kit Armor piercing round

[@songnguyen4574]

Seems pretty good

[@NickFibonacciCristea]

As a rookie who never used any of these weapons (except for the AUG HBAR), I’m genuinely not even infuriated.

[@Eclipsaulnightmare]

Steven, I think I found one of if not the coolest dmr attachment... It's called the binary trigger, you basically fire a shot when pulling the trigger and letting go, practically bypassing the fire rate, but I've only found it on two dmrs.. the SL-8/9 and the Beowulf TCR.

[@ig88s204]

I have an interesting video idea. I don't know how far behind the servers are, but the Mega test servers are in fact still active in the server browser, so I think it would be cool to demonstrate how all the sights (including iron sights) were affected by the glass hack and the idle sway update.

[@Bronky_boi]

I love the SFG it is a pocket sniper so what the aim sucks it’s just fun

[@CoralVee]

Nice video my friend

[@TheRobe120]

I can't believe he added the Scar Hamr and not the GB22 even though the default gun is worse than the Sas308

[@SomeSteven]

Because I said no meme weapons, that's why gb22 wasn't on the list

[@CharlieGTA]

Now you gotta do good to best guns

[@slypris]

i think the problem is he picks mid guns like c to d tier for these lists lol

[@Untitled-Beanie]

Now I think about it, I kind of agree with what Steven said about the aug hbar about the damage it does. Since stock, you can't see the iron sight and damage is okay. (Note I kind of main the aug hbar )

[@bonesyt5060]

I played 11 hours all night yesterday on the colt smg. you should make a video on it. pretty good gun

[@richtyty9416]

YOOOOO THAT WAS ME WHO GOT YOU WITH THE BLUE AND WHITE HARVESTER LMAOOOOO

[@cyber2526]

i could swear the scar hamr ramped up much faster before

[@EnderDragonMMOS]

when the hamr was a 700-900 rampuo it was true

[@nilfruits.]

they nuked it

[@netherendX]

@@nilfruits.nah it’s still really good

[@Shy_Abi]

Obrez is a pocket Steyr Scout, that's why we like it.

[@trowabromfield8867]

Honestly I have the the same sentiment as everyone else "steven no likey' lmg" but one of the other aspect of the video was iron sight, they should do like what CoD does where they make it look like someone took and angle grinder to the rear sight or just removes the rear sight all together.

[@TheRobe120]

Did he really ask "Is the sas308 your favorite weapon ever to be conceived in this game?", I never knew we could put sas308 and the word favorite in the same sentence.

[@Kragerles]

It’s one of my favorites 😢

[@boxcatgames537]

okay really the bar... PRESS V

[@SomeSteven]

Pressing V doesn't extend magazine capacity, which is my main issue with the weapon

[@boxcatgames537]

@@SomeSteven fun stupid fact there were 30 round mags it just that there hell of rare

[@yeetyt1770]

​@@SomeSteventhe bar is good... you just have to get used to it. I had some 70-80 kill games after using it for a few matches.

[@fredprousa]

@@yeetyt1770 it is the person that sucks not the weapon

[@yeetyt1770]

@@fredprousa yep

[@thewesslover9518]

so now you're targeting LMG'S? tbh cant blame you.

[@janicerodriguez1333]

SFG50 is realistic to what would practically happen if you shortened the barrel that much. Not accurate but close. 7:04

[@xX_SillyGoober_Xx]

Steven if u ever do another setup video, can you try my MP412 Rex setup? Here it is: Barrel: Carbine barrel Scope: Vcog 6x (alt aim) Other: Rex stock Ammo: N/A Please try it, it’s my best sniper

[@PlumSmug]

The worst weapons in the game are the Zues x27, The Righteous Bison, The Pomson 6000, the Frenzy, The Ares, The Zip 22, Chainsaw Grip, Commando's Pistols, Angler, Seek, Your Mother. Glad i could help you, this list is very wrong and i hope my superior list cleans everything up :)

[@zombx7174]

The only thing I didn't agree with was the SA58, It's decent with attachments. It's like the Sks more powerful little brother.

[@gloriousgloria917]

Steven said on stock performance only. No attachments. I gave you a LIKE because you were not mean🦒🗽🍁☕🌻🦙🐑🐇🥳🦉‼️

[@prenomnom4758]

they should give the l86 a stock drum mag

[@Heatcote]

somesteven private bath stream when? also l96 lsw is my favoutite

[@CementMuncher12]

hello mister steven i have a type 20 setup for you. i hope you enjoy: type 20 with Microdot mini ars suppressor stubby grip green laser, and 40rd mag. I hope you enjoy my setup you will prolly never see :P

[@thecrxguy420]

I'm not gonna scream or cry at these takes, but here's some of my opinions of your opinions first of all, I would like to say that the L86 LSW is in my opinion, currently one of the better LMGs in the game, it's more than accurate enough for me, the low-ish rpm helps with ammo conservation, and it has a lot of reserve, as well as a 50 round option with .223 rem (I know you said no attachments but it's only 500 kills) secondly, the HBAR, it's been insane, it is insane, and I think it will continue to be insane, it's my highest kill lmg for a reason after all thirdly, the HAMR is not what it once was, but i've used it a decent bit post-update, and I think it's extremely good overall, with good ammo, good reserves, good damage, and the way the ramp up rpm works, it's just a better SCAR-L after one mag and finally, i'm a bit biased, being a headshot sniper enjoyer, but I think the Obrez and the Sass 308 are great guns (if you can hit your headshots) the Sass 308 is basically hitscan, with still AMAZING long range damage, and a one tap torso in cqc, and the Obrez is just a more difficult, faster Mosin Nagant, great if you liked .32 ACP R700 and Mosin Nagant, but don't have the Steyr Scout yet

[@SomeSteven]

I'm glad someone can get some use out of the weapons nontheless! Keep in mind too, a lot of the weapons mentioned in this video can be super good when built out, the HBAR is fun with attachments, the l86 is even something I use to use a decent bit, I just think, based on STOCK performance, that they're not very good for one reason or another.

[@thecrxguy420]

@@SomeSteven Fair enough, even I can admit the L86 is a bit rough around the edges completely stock

[@gloriousgloria917]

I am still happy from last night LIVE STREAM. READING COMMENTS. I AM WONDERING W/STRESS OF MOVING, TEMPORARY TURN OFF COMMENTS Warranted? YOU, are too nice to be bullied. As a female young adult, I cannot understand where the bully culture comes from? Clue? I never talk politics, but I think that is where the seeds of awful behavior has taken root.

[@EnderDragonMMOS]

good video but counter point, imaginary technique hollow purple

[@jojomanwik4128]

Steven hope you have a good day

[@thejondough1087]

Wait, zip 22 is goated tho. . .

[@Unhuamn5]

The bar is so good with the 2 shot torso. why is it on this list? it’s is literally my favorite lmg.

[@SomeSteven]

The magazine capacity is my issue, otherwise the stats are awesome

[@fredprousa]

it is the person that sucks not the weapon

[@StealthNZHedgehog]

Now that Bro did this List (again, i think?) He finna get these Weapons ALL the time in the Live Streams LOL

[@Spacebanana2]

i did not think people hated the obrez. ive been using it for sooo long and almost at that 10k kills....

[@netherendX]

It’s just bad

[@GibsonSniper]

7:12 video in the PF I wish sfg50 has a long barrel

[@SeniorViper]

Bruh, i love Sass 308

[@KonigJindiao]

Well this was interesting to watch

[@TimeTripper79]

The L86 LSW used to have insane velocity but I think it was nerfed. The suppression was absolutely INSANE! It used to be an effective DMR on semi auto

[@God_227]

Man he keeps on forgetting the nerf gun

[@SomeSteven]

I literally said twice in the video I wasn't gonna include meme weapons 😭

[@God_227]

@@SomeSteven hehe

[@God_227]

Can you make another video about it please

[@Lil-Dicky49]

ok but HOW DARE YOU THE MGV IS AMAZING!! GRR

[@crazy123_qw-ke6mp]

f88t(aug hbar) is best lmg stock bruh

[@sowhat7484]

video idea: best and worst gun in every category (i dont know if u did this already)

[@thing4362]

After they ruined the range on the E gun I'd say it deserves a spot on this list. (I dont consider it a meme gun because it exists irl and has a genuinely fun playstyle unless you're a crowd control user)

[@Gorilla-b8m]

oh no! an opinion, my weakness!

[@kaiaaa6377]

hey my boyfriend killed you at 6;29 LMAO love the video btw :>

[@aspectz_fr]

steven what about the gyrojet setup i sent you 2 days ago

[@SomeSteven]

😢

[@onionsmaster]

The sass is actually good i think your just washed and i love the iron sights so much

[@enjoyer7344]

fal para shortys ads recoil looks like a minion shooting the gun

[@BucketHat_Guy8]

0:34 ah yes, “STOCK PERFORMANCE ALONE” the words many of these (surprisingly nonexistent) hate comments forget about (Если вы это читаете, купите Zip-22 заранее)

[@gloriousgloria917]

Clever 😂 Lol 😊.

[@tmstv5561]

I think the L86 LSW is decent. It’s not really bad, it’s just an L85A2 that can 3 tap disguised as an LMG

[@TimeTripper79]

It used to be better and had some of the highest velocity in the game

[@HolaSoyRodrigoHS007]

If you thought that with the MGV-176 you can't see anything when you point and shoot, imagine what the HORNET feels like.

[@chillenthusiast6169]

I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, the L85LSW (in pf) is a bad lmg, but it’s a great assault rifle. Side note: the BAR isn’t even an lmg, it’s technically an hmg, which is why it has such a small mag size. The closest weapon class is the battle rifles, where it should be moved to.

[@alfiembutitstonymontana9964]

If the scars fire rate increased by double each bullet, it would be better (Double in this case, meaning it adds 1, 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, etc, to the fire rate until it hits 750

[@xtevity]

But steven did you forget about the silly setup for the fal para shorty(the nuh-uh setup)?

[@etka_11]

Prime SomeSteven would have 10 phantom forbillion views by now

[@ToasterPlayer]

Stop spreading misinformation sass 308 is actually a really good weapon how dare you throw shade at it 😡😡🤬 If you somehow didn't notice this comment is a JOKE (even tho I like sass and I use it seriously) I love your vids Steven keep it up

[@luiskaylingvidallu4867]

It is better than the obrez as a sniper for its muzzle velocity, and one shots torso up close (i think). But yeah it is not good

[@kwinged]

fun little gun setup i made M4A1 - RANK 0 OPTIC - KOUSAKU SIGHT BARREL - CARBINE BARREL UNDERBARREL - FOLDING GRIP OTHER - REMOVE STOCK AMMO - DEFAULT im also happy for you word on how to improve it :)

[@charlo12]

I usually use the sass as a secondary sniper of sorts. tongue twister, holy.

[@rylandiguess]

Where’s the NUH uh setup?

[@johnjohn6x6x67]

I just came back at pf what the heck happened

[@jarnobrock]

the sass 308 is actually really good i dont know what are you on

[@giggalazer4789]

fal para shorty 45 acp doing that beautiful 51 damage at like only 10 - 20 studs was goated. No reason to nerf it imo

[@N9NE_P0INT]

You didnt use my hbar setup!!!

[@derpyflerpy1]

Stock BAR is not even remotely bad compared to Stock HBAR still i appreciate the aug HBAR being in this list

[@SomeSteven]

I like the bar, it's the magazine capacity that ruins it for me

[@derpyflerpy1]

@@SomeSteven yeah

[@GibsonSniper]

I love that gun in PF 8:05

[@armourfire9945]

712 if you look close at the frame before he shoots either misses or is only a hair on target, with that being said the sfg is not good as your only sniper but is very good as a back up weapon in many situations

[@thetinman-1]

The only gun with the dynamic fire rate which is pretty op is the m16a1 with m855 as it just instantly reaches its max firerate (800-950rpm)

[@xaisann]

the (in my opinion) in the title is working harder than a single mom with 3 kids

[@csGX64]

Sfg is literally a mid range hand cannon, its quite unhinged

[@Galg58xd]

Cool vid and everything but... WHEN THE NO RECOIL VID heres the setup😊: AUG HBAR optic: dlc120 barrel: muzzle brake underbarrel: stubby other: closed bolt Ammo 22lr if u put these attachments its true no recoil setup 8 day of asking for no recoil vid comon steven

[@PhoenixianConnexionian]

Steven try ww2 phantom forces by Visual_black

[@TheRagingGamer1]

0:05 literally me 😔

[@gloriousgloria917]

Hey, Floridian‼️ How are you? I had an early board meeting in Manhattan. Mid 70s & kind of windy. Glad I am resting at home. TGIF, SOON🦒🗽🍀🦉☕🌻.

[@TheRagingGamer1]

@@gloriousgloria917 oh hey! I’m doing pretty good myself! You’re lucky either your temperate up there in NY. Down here it’s almost always 80 which sucks. Although today I’m finally gonna get my 4-wheeler running again! Maybe I’ll make a video on it if me riding around my trails or whatever but yeah.

[@gloriousgloria917]

​@@TheRagingGamer1Be safe = accredited Queen 👑 of safety 🦒🗽🦉‼️

[@est780]

If m1918a2 bar is bad then hit stylis up with the m1919a6, basically a belt fed version of it.

[@Imfatinabucket-Fm7]

NOT THE SAS 308!!!!!

[@AcceptableAsGenerallyDecent]

at least the l86lsw still gets a drum with .223 right?

[@quinnnugent7543]

yea then you have to use 223 even less damage and range as if the damage wasn't low enough lol

[@Ludwik_the_silly_bnuyy]

NOOO, SREVEN. THE FAL PARA SHORTY IS VERY GOOD, YOU JUST DONT KNOW HOW TO GET USED TO THE RECOIL. THE RECOIL IS REALLY MANAGEABLE. YUR JUST BAD IN THE GAME GRRRR

[@SomeSteven]

[@Ludwik_the_silly_bnuyy]

(Im just kidding. Its really bad, but i find a way to have fun with it. And no. Im not a masoquist)