Greg Boyd: Is Satan Real?

[@opfipip3711]

Very good lecture. It opened my eyes again for the reality that our enemies are not humans.

[@christianfaithministries3454]

Would have liked discussion alone Rene Girard's line to contribute to this. If there wasn't a Satan, man would have to invent one, to carry his guilt. Our tendency to transpose our guilt onto the satan goes to the very core of our human nature, and our cultural experience. It is the basis of all war. Isn't this the revelation of Christ in the Gospels? "You are blind because you think you see." They were the scapegoaters. Would love some discussion along these lines, how the gospel opens our eyes to see ourselves as the satan, to become disciples of Christ, the peacemaker, not the scapegoater, instead. Not saying this denies a personal satan, but certainly the gospel and the cross unmasks satan within our own social lives. This reveals the whole global dilemma as we see it today.

[@opfipip3711]

Christian Faith Ministries: Satan does not remove human responsibility or mans guilt. This assumption is not biblical at all. To argue "Satan made me do it." is stupid. But man is not only an offender. Man is also a victim. This is revealed in the story of the fall.

[@joelrodriguez1232]

Opfi Pip exactly.

[@zach2980]

Venus is not star, FYI

[@seinfan9]

And you aren't informed about historical etymology. In classical antiquity, the seven classical planets or seven sacred luminaries are the seven moving astronomical objects in the sky visible to the naked eye: the Moon, Mercury, Venus, the Sun, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn. The word planet comes from two related Greek words, πλάνης planēs (whence πλάνητες ἀστέρες planētes asteres "wandering stars, planets") and πλανήτης planētēs, both with the original meaning of "wanderer", expressing the fact that these objects move across the celestial sphere relative to the fixed stars.[1][2] Greek astronomers such as Geminus[3] and Ptolemy[4] often divided the seven planets into the Sun, the Moon, and the five planets.

[@zach2980]

@@seinfan9 you may be right. Biblical writers also recorded a flat earth. ;)

[@AtticTapes14]

AREN'T PEOPLE PART OF EVIL, NOT GOD OR SATAN DEVIL?

[@JamesRichardWiley]

Satan is as real as you want him to be. I can't be bothered.

[@hwd71]

The Quran was inspired by Satan.