Fixing a Viewer's BROKEN Gaming PC? - Fix or Flop S2:E9

[@GregSalazar]

Thanks so much for watching! I'm in the middle of filming S2:E11 and just ran into another Zen 2 CPU issue 😅

[@DasLooney]

Maybe there is a flaw/problem that's causing these processors to destruct prematurely.

[@zushikatetomotoshift1575]

That is cause when the CPU is overvolted it does that. In mobo bios they set the cpu to overvolt. Many motherboards do that. My 3800X was stock at 1.448v I undervolted it to 1.320v. Undervolt your zen and zen2, Not sure if this applies to zen3.

[@Strengenn]

You are a fantastic person for not charging these "customers". Your videos are fun to watch and i've been following this series for a LONG time. Thanks for your content! :)

[@JTCPingas]

AGAIN???

[@michaelthompson9798]

I own a SFF Ryzen 3600 which is about 12mths old….. hopefully this won’t happen to me 🤕😓

[@TBomb85]

For some reason I can't get enough of these... Such a captivating series.

[@GregSalazar]

Thanks man. Always appreciated from ya.

[@BeatsbyVegas]

@@GregSalazar release each season on dvd or blu ray!

[@tobiasboon346]

It's because you are trying to diagnose the issue along with Greg.

[@JamesDavidWalley]

It’s like watching BBC murder mysteries (my wife is addicted to them), but for techies.

[@tasnimulsarwar9189]

@@JamesDavidWalley sir, that is one of the best analogies I've seen for this series thus far.

[@henryalva6354]

Greg: "For some reason this 3600s and 3600X, they just love to kick the can" Me, watching my PC ryzen 3600: "Please do not die on me, You are the chosen One, dont you even dare to..."

[@justinjesse2107]

I'm so nervous lol

[@m3redgt]

I do have a 3600 in my mediaserver running 24/7 for almost 2 yrs now... i think mine's good haha

[@akiesa559]

same it has been 3 years now

[@cliffordgallagher4531]

OMG,Me Too! So Freaking out that I have a 3600!!! Lol

[@kickassamd]

4 systems with the 3600x in them, no issues.

[@issanesheiwat1396]

That would be really cool if AMD could tell us exactly what went wrong with these CPUs

[@dhjohns1956]

Actually they stopped working.

[@rudder3084]

I am half suspecting it is the IO chip failing.

[@darthwiizius]

A couple of years ago I seem to remember a few rumblings about AMD reliability, perhaps there was a bad batch?

[@Hawk81584]

@@darthwiizius or maybe they got big and do what everyone else does lol

[@alexv182]

Chip shortage. The demand is too high for quality/durability check from the factory so the CPU could have been a R3 from binning in normal condition but since we're still in a unusual condition, it may have been quick tested for getting the chip out of the factory to satisfy demand.

[@navashen3686]

From what I've noticed and tested with all stock settings my Ryzen 5 3600 was using 1.45v during certain workloads which is "normal" for these chips, but in gaming scenarios i noticed it used to use 1.45v - 1.5v which is way too high, so i contacted Amd technical team and they basically told me to leave all the settings on auto which was of no help. So i ended up doing my own research on these chips, mostly testing theories on my own system and then i came to a conclusion that the way voltage is applied to these chips in an all core scenario is not correct, so to test this i manually set my load-line to level 3 and used the per ccx mode on my motherboard with the override vcore option. This resulted in better voltage control and better overclocking results. The values achieved using this method: CCX0 @4.5Ghz CCX1 @4.4Ghz core vids @1.3v Vcore @1.326v previous stock values: CCX0 and CCX1 @4.1 - 4.2Ghz core vids light load 1.45v in-game 1.45 - 1.5v prime 95 1.25 - 1.28v in conclusion the stock auto settings causes the chip to be overvolted which can result in degradation and in-time possibly killing the chip. Note: all test were at stock 90A EDC All these results are from personal testing and can vary from one chip to another.

[@RaidSoft]

A lot of this can probably be blamed on the motherboard manufacturers honestly, they have a tendency to not use AMD's specs for their default or "auto" settings on stuff, a lot of this is to push a bit more performance out of the chip so they show up better in tests etc... It's very scummy behavior because it's not clear at all that you're running outside spec.

[@Manakuski]

There's an even better solution for this. Buy Intel. Don't buy AMD cpu:s. Those AMD Ryzens keep dying left and right.

[@rogeliotarucjr9380]

Never would experience this in an intel cpu. Using computers since first gen 8086 days, only amd cpus are the one to die.

[@worldhello1234]

@@Manakuski No, it isn't and no, they don't.

[@Faith.in.His.Grace.]

I almost willing to bet a lot of people are trying to overclock these 3600's and killing them in the process

[@aaronncollier96]

It could simply be that the popularity of the R5 3600 and 3600X CPUs inflates the perceived failure rate. Could also be low quality motherboards killing them. Who knows. Just to add another data point, I have been running a 3600 for nearly 2 years without issue.

[@simplysaphi]

people say same about all large brands. 3600 was a phenomenon in terms of popularity and it's same with mice like deathadder. you can say 1000 failures...on like 10 mil unit scale :D

[@fernandotapia3744]

My 3600 kick the can too. Send it back for warranty they replaced with the same let’s see how long it last. First one lasted under a year.

[@milansatters8750]

I was thinking the same

[@exxor9108]

@@stysner4580 I'm glad for that and my 3300X. I'm able to run that at a pretty low voltage with the max boost clock stable. Then again, its only a quad-core.

[@TheBiscuitKing96]

I was also thinking this. The 3600 has been the most recommended cpu I’ve ever seen and it was fairly attainable during the beginning of the pandemic when many people built pcs

[@phild4186]

Just a suggestion but in all my years working on computers I've never seen a bad cpu kill a motherboard, but I've seen several bad motherboards kill cpus. So, as a general rule I always test the unknown cpu in a good board before testing a good cpu in an unknown board.

[@MyWasteOfTime]

Not sure if you watched the entire video, but that is exactly what he did...

[@phild4186]

@@MyWasteOfTime 15:02 no he didn't. He put his good cpu in an unknown board.

[@ItsReaxxion]

good advice

[@MyWasteOfTime]

@@phild4186 Actually we are both right 17:40 he did try the bad chip in a good MB!

[@phild4186]

@@MyWasteOfTime clearly you are missing the point of my comment.

[@ethanlancelot3225]

Thanks for the time and effort you put into these videos Greg. Fix or flop is a great series that educates as well as entertains. Keep it up!

[@dragonman910]

You're doing an amazing service to the community Greg! Keep it up! Let's get him to 800k!

[@tw1tch09]

LETSGOOOOOOO

[@ikram2512]

@@DarkBlade05 let's go

[@Yas-ii3hu]

Thank you for the work you've been putting in, Greg, I've been learning a lot! My interest in building/diagnosing PCs started when my older brother refused to help me with my PC. It would randomly turn off - like no windows shut-down, it'd just turn off (It had a power on range of anywhere from a few seconds from start-up to an hour after). My first instinct was to clean it. I know now that having my PC on a carpeted floor isn't all too healthy for my PC in the long run, but I had nowhere else to put it. While cleaning it, a pillow feather flew out of the PSU. Not knowing the damage a feather can do to a PSU, I thought it was fixed after it was removed. Obviously, it wasn't fixed. Not knowing what else to do after sorting through a few different options, I took it to Fry's Electronics. I told the employee about my PC and how it'd randomly turn off. As soon as the words, "feather in the power supply," left my lips, he gave the slightest s**t eating grin I've ever seen. I had a sneaking suspicion that I needed to replace my PSU and that guy gave me the confirmation I needed. I went home and ordered another PSU. The same PSU but a modular version (I didn't want to deal with stuffing all of the extra, unused, cables next to the drives). It was fixed after that. Again, thanks for your awesome work! I've been able to help friends and family with their PC problems and I am grateful to have someone to keep learning from!

[@AkaneOusaka]

very interesting to see this build back and even more interesting to see the outcome of this video. i love the fix or flop series and thankfully i don't think any of these videos in the series had a build that flopped!

[@thymelord8353]

I love how you showed and acknowledged your mistake instead of editing it out of the video. And being an owner of a Ryzen 3600, this video is terrifying.

[@Equalizer74]

This series always keeps me interested. Keeps me informed of issues and solutions incase I run into them myself.

[@JTCPingas]

This series is so addicting! Glad to see it's still doing well!

[@santimanu4]

A couple of months ago, I had to RMA my R5 3600x I bought on Agust 2020 (so less than 2 years in total) because it died out of nowhere. One night was working fine, the next day it wouldn't post. No problems with the motherboard, or, apparently, the PSU. Don't really know what is going on with those, and I got a replacement chip pretty quick (although in the meantime I end up buying a 5600x) but it kinda sus that a lot of this chips are just dying.

[@JamesRussoMillas]

My first 3800x bought in late 2019 died after about a day or two, started straight up black screening. Strange with these Zen 2 chips. My 2nd one has been fine for 2+ years lol

[@ianwalsh1376]

I loved the way you really show the process and the logical flow of how to test parts. This is the best part of the video and the honesty that you give when fixing parts. Seriously between this and the camera work, you deserve a medal!

[@Jwalker76]

Greg i love your FoF content. Its always interesting seeing the symptoms. I really like the process in testing and thinking about what to test next. I follow PC tech as a hobby. I did have a Ryzen system fail on me but it was 1700x and as i dont have parts to test if it was the CPU or the Motherboard. I ended up just replacing both instead of buying a 3600 and hoping it wasnt the mobo. So i bought a i5 11400F and a b560 mobo. After seeing this im kind of glad i didnt go with tthe 3600 route.

[@nickwstp]

Blown away by this video series! I have been binge-watching these ever since one of the episodes helped me fix my dead computer on my own! Thanks so much for the hard work you do here.

[@DOPES4MAGA]

Always enjoy these. Can't wait for the next one.

[@GregSalazar]

More to come!

[@cookie7993]

This is my favorite series of videos you make hands down. No time lapse, just pure interaction and not knowing exactly if it will be fixed and being able to make my own hypothesis of what is wrong and see if I’m right.

[@Mau_S]

Man I was crossing my fingers that he hooked up the right cables to that test psu lol. Lovely episode yet again!

[@DjRavix]

I would suggest contacting AMD as it seems odd that you have encountered this within a short distance of your location and with the same SKU I am sure they are willing to look into this as it makes there products look unreliable and if we know what the problem is there might be a way to prevent this from happening

[@ALLinx87]

I had a 3800x die after a week, got it replaced with the warranty. My new one is 100% and I sold it and now I have a 5950x.

[@neoperol]

@@ALLinx87 A component dying after few weeks of use is kind of normal, but a CPU dying after months of use I would say is a bad batch, because a CPU is the last thing that die in a computer. It can be run for a decade without problems.

[@cstubed]

It would be a good idea to know the motherboards also the dead cpus was on. I wouldn't be surprised as it was first gen with the PBO feauture, some motherboard BIOSes sending high voltage to Cpu and eventually kill it.

[@felixlutticken5694]

thats exactly what I thought 👍

[@GaryA1682]

As someone who fixes systems and laptops I’m learning a hell of a lot from these videos and I am grateful for the free testing tips and information you provide 👍 please keep them coming!

[@autoglobus]

From my own very limited experience it does feel like chips are getting pushed much harder then they used to be and are dying much more often. It's no wonder there's not much to gain from overclocking modern CPUs compared to what we were used to in the past since the manufacturers already push them so close to their limit. During this pandemic, I've been using my PC a lot more (work from home and personal use) and i had my 3700x dying on me. One of my colleges had his 2 month old 12700K die on him a few days ago and is now struggling with the warranty to get a replacement.

[@kshitijvarshney]

Hey Greg! I don't know if this comment will reach you but here's my rig setting an example of nothing is unlikely when you're cursed: My rig: R9 5950x, TUF 3090, Asus Crosshair VIII Formula, Lian Li Galahad 360, all in O11 Dynamic XL April 2021 I finished my build after waiting for a R9 5950x for 1.5 months -> Included GPU sag bracket had wrong threaded screws, had to DIY my own bracket -> Corsair commander pro came with dead Thermal probe port (I ignored it) ->A PWM fan port dies -> 3 months later my UPS died (2KVA server grade UPS) -> Main Board replaced after 1 week-> Died next day -> Main Board replaced after 2 weeks-> Died next day again -> New main board replaced after a month-> Gives off 90db of noise of relay switch -> replaced after a 2 weeks and is now fine Motherboard dies ( gives a PROCHOT Ext signal and CPU throttles to 500mhz) -> Asus gave me a USED AND REPAIRED board after 10 days, I refuse but they insist -> Bios chip dies the same day -> New mobo after a week -> Galahad 360 AIO dies (overheats to oblivion and cpu throttles to 800mhz) -> Got a replacement 5 days later -> while replacing the old cooler, superglue equivalent MX5 thermal paste took the cpu out with the cooler even after me being super careful -> Bent cpu pins-> wasn't very bad and got fixed but that definitely took a year out of my lifespan PC works fine for 3 months -> A Radiator fan dies -> replaced in 2 weeks ->Did a bios update, CPU throttled to 800mhz after a gaming session once again -> I revert bios (thankfully I had previous bios) The CPU has once throttled after reverting but has been working okay-ish Still high idle temps Ambient temp: 36° C Idle temps: 50° C If anything breaks again I'm selling this garbage, I'm done, way too much stress, not gonna build a pc ever again probably

[@4Shams]

This series is amazing it's entertaining, informative and i really like the way you go through those systems. God job and keep that great work on

[@helixtrice930]

Congrats on 800k Subs Greg!! Here's to 1 Million soon!

[@Hinjima92]

Love this series! Keep up the good work, love from Norway! :)

[@GregSalazar]

Much appreciated 🙏

[@vincekara9446]

Good to see you back Sean. Congrats on your purchase I knew you would opt for a territory. You can protect the ZF trans by bypassing the heart exchanger to s dedicated cooler. Like all of the auto Falcon's & Territories

[@balinthorvath9628]

Loving this series Greg. Keep up the good work

[@GregSalazar]

Thanks, will do!

[@postedinthecut1565]

I've learned so much from watching this series. Trouble shooting skill is so important, Thank you Greg.

[@bodombeastmode]

I remember hearing rumors a couple years ago about high failure rates with Ryzen CPU's. The rumors were supposedly overblown. Appears that may not be the case.

[@Jason-lu3rl]

do you send these back for warranty replacement also? seeing as owner bought PC you'd think maybe warranty would be left on the CPU as I thought AMD had 3 years warranty on their CPU's. That way you can get the bad ones replaced and have spares on hand for the next build or fix

[@franciscojavierdelpino4568]

Thx for this amazing series. All of this content helps a lot of people and that is priceless.

[@DasLooney]

Totally agree, Francisco, Greg is really turning out some great informative and helpful content!

[@Nogamers9057]

Respect that u help people in Florida like this.

[@JE-zl6uy]

The good news is that, honestly, these are all still under AMD's warranty. RMA time.

[@DeerJerky]

report ^ not real

[@SlyStarling]

@@DeerJerky Am i suprised? no. These guys are trying to make money because they couldn't get a real job, they are most certainly a**holes.

[@pulze1871]

not sure if it was posted or saw but Jayz two cents did a video on this case there is a recall / fix for it since it will cause a short / fire by the riser cable where it folds the screw there needs to be replaced with a plastic one / plastic ring.

[@GregSalazar]

Yes, we've already made more than one video about it.

[@japaneserequired6314]

Extreme tech did a piece on AMD failure rates last year. A vendor reported DOA rates of around 3% across the board for AMD chips. In comparison, the vendor said they have only seen 1 DOA Intel chip in the entirety of their business history, and it was a 9700k. Power GPU was the company. Harken back to the FX chip days and close to 1/3rd of all chips were DOA.

[@thelegendaryklobb2879]

But these are not DOA, these were working for a long time before failing. Completely different issue.

[@liesandy291]

He even fixed it before.

[@QuickTrueStories]

Don't say that, i have a 9700k 😞

[@dierkrieger]

I had a similar issue and it was the SATA cables, so I pulled them all and used M.2 and the computer has run fine for five years. I did try a mechanical drive a month ago and had the same problem. I went as far as buying a new X99 SLI Plus motherboard and 5820K so I have an old motherboard and CPU sitting in a box.

[@Vocalizecommander]

I wonder how many dead Ryzen 3600 chips Greg is going to collect through this series.

[@AlbionSupreme]

All of them

[@jamesbillingsby8043]

Really love your videos and have honestly become addicted to them. I am so sad I didn't know about you longer ago as I do live in the Orlando area. I actually had a computer a month ago not show a display but powered up. I tried my best to fix it and was extremally stressed being a full time student and having a salaried position. working 10-11 hour days. I had to scramble and buy a prebuilt, I certainly did not overpay at least. It all worked out as I then took parts from that computer and made a new computer for my Niece. Who is now blown away by the power of a good graphics card, I bought her a 6650 xt and she has no businesses having a card that good. Appreciate what you do and helping others for no cost, now I actually have the knowledge I wish I had at that moment. You will probably enjoy hearing all the things I did and what the issue actually was. I took the GPU out and really cleaned it up, along with the motherboard. I tried running one stick of ram but nothing, turns out I didn't try both ram sticks. I later discovered that one of the ram sticks was broken, and that was the problem. You should have seen me researching how to flash a bios and looking everywhere for the battery only to realize it was behind the GPU and hidden. The GPU, CPU, PSU and board are still good. I may buy a cheap case and ram, throw it together and give it to someone in my family.

[@kxightable]

It's most likely that the reason for you finding 3600/3600X chips dying more often is just the fact they were the golden value option that basically everyone went for if they were building a system when Ryzen 3000 was current since the price to performance was so good on the 3600 specifically.

[@iZaners]

That's not it lol

[@kingkosher6231]

These videos have helped me remedy a lot of computers for people I know and has resulted in me being bought lunch/dinner at least a dozen times and even paid.. this is huge because I am financially struggling so thanks for sharing these videos

[@NN2484]

I think it could be cool to do a special live episode of fix or flop where Greg and us viewers can collaborate to fix a pc or maybe even multiple if the first one is quick.

[@BCGCasual]

I personally ran into an issue exactly like these symptoms twice in short succession, both of which were motherboard problems. I was fairly confident the board had died here too from the start of the video, but I guess sometimes bad silicon is all it takes. Good video, it was interesting to see you go through the same steps and come out with a different answer.

[@justsumguy2u]

The fix or flop series was the reason why I subscribed; I love the mystery and the troubleshooting. I'm glad I'm an Intel guy, it seems like those AMD cpu's are a bit problematic

[@jimmybrannan7303]

This is fun watching someone else fix people's computers. I'm afraid I don't watch any of your other playlists.

[@TheFishki]

Love the series Greg! This kind of series would actually be a kickass livestream series. We'd get to walk through every single step for everything you do and can even give suggestions and polls on what we think the issue is. Keep up the good work :)

[@TommyGunz_]

After you ruled out the PSU. My guess was the MOBO. I assumed the power delivery was bad and thats why nothing was lighting up or any fans were working.

[@soggyt8873]

Loving your channel, Bud! I built my first PC about 3 months ago, all new stuff and have been having so many issues. Seeing all these other people having similar issues is making me feel way better, and also that I might be able to sort this out! Unfortunately I'm based outside of The U.S. So see me in the discord once I work out how that all works and hopefully I can stop pulling my hair out

[@DanielMartinez-xv4rh]

I had the exact same problem with my son’s pc and after all the trouble it ended up being the hdd and it’s funny because he does have a r5 3600 lol…but it’s been months and it’s been running good

[@potatopoweredchannel3081]

This is rare - Mr. Greg have been the most unsure and bit restless on this fix for the first 15 minutes. Lets do this guys! we can help him! Goodluck and cheers bro 👍

[@jaymietreadwell]

Dunno if anyone else has noticed, but this board (Gigabyte Aorus B450i Pro Wifi) has a LED_CPU header which may be the Debug LED header, and it has Speaker header also for debugging. Connecting the PC Speaker if you have one may save some time for future cases similar to this one.

[@alcynis]

I’ve run into a similar looking problem with my ryzen 5600x. The PSU would turn on and fans would spin but no output. I tried resetting CMOS and then had that clicking PSU issues. I then reset CMOS while removing the battery and that fixed it. I would suggest giving that a shot. On a side note it happened when I moved motherboard from a MSI to a ASUS

[@LeOneToyota]

Hey Greg I've actually had a brand new 3700x stop working. First the memory controller broke meaning I couldn't run my system in dual channel mode. Then I got a BSoD saying there was an internal video scheduler error. At first I thought it was the GPU but I was able to confirm with my friends build that all of my other components were working except the CPU. I only had it for about a year and a half using the stock cooler.

[@GrafStorm]

I have two systems using the 5 3600X cpu, for about 2 years now and not had any problems. Thinking about upgrading to a 7 5800X for one of them, thanks Greg!

[@ComplicatedCow]

I also had a Ryzen 5 3600X die on me. My system would often boot up, fans full speed, with the CPU and DRAM debug LEDs flickering, but a simple reboot would fix it. Soon though, the CPU died. It was definitely a pain to find out given I didn't have any other hardware on me, but the debug LEDs led me in the right direction. I definitely think Ryzen 5 3600s die more often than I'd like to think.

[@jaytoney3007]

I had the same symptoms doing an upgrade to a Ryzen 7 5700g from a Ryzen 2700x. Troubleshooting led to faulty CPU, new in the box DOA. Fortunately I had the old CPU to get me by until I could get a RMA replacement.

[@Bobo-ey8fc]

Great series Greg! By far my favorite on all of KZbin. Keep them coming!!!

[@troyanderson3665]

I have an R5 3600X here in Far North Queensland Australia that I''d be happy to post over to add to the pile. AMD cancelled the RMA request as I couldn't respond in the time that they required for further information because I was working interstate. Moved on and built another system. Let me know if you want it. No cost to you. Thought of sending it to Bryan, but he's off visiting family overseas. A good thing too.

[@geekjit215]

Hey Greg! Great video as always. Looking at the batch numbers of the defective CPUs, there is a high probability they might be in warranty. Could you try to get in touch with AMD and get all these chips replaced and possible request AMD to investigate this as well?

[@robertaguirre8973]

Dude good job! I have the fixed V1 also. Guess I'm lucky to have the 3800x going on a year.

[@luismagalhaes7773]

I had to replace my 3600 a few weeks ago. Had it for 2 years. Started getting harder and harder to post, sometimes needing a couple of power cycles, and then one day it didn't post at all. Upgraded to a 5600, let's see if they don't have the same issue...

[@cjwest10159]

My system just went down on me and I suspect my 3600 to be the issue. I havnt had time to get into diag but after binge watch your series I have an Erie feeling it's not good... great series by the way. Even someone with some pc building experience like myself has something to learn from these videos. Thanks man!

[@Kozi03]

It's blowing my mind as I go though all these vids how many CPUs are dead. Seen more in this playlist than I have my whole life.

[@johnstancliff7328]

when I was working on my rig, a brand new build.... I hadf the same problem arise of the unit wouldnt power on, and the problem, again was the soldiered connections on the actual power switch... a broken wire. I wound up having to replace the power switch module and it was good to go. a simple but frustrating issue.

[@leif-erichansens2635]

Not sure, but it could be that the boards are running the voltages a little on the high side, shortening the life span. I personally undervolted my 5900X and hit 4.9Ghz single core ( Auto OC ), I run it at 1.175V 24/7. Might want to do the same on the 3600

[@spirez9356]

Hey Greg congratualtions on 800K I discovered your channel a while ago but I found the courage today to clean my exhaust fans because I had no idea how to do It so I thank you for doing the deep cleaning series and this series

[@TimBaoht]

THAT'S A GREAT IDEA.... @ 11:14 You should do these as a live stream.

[@numberblue1781]

Just started watching your content and man I love this series! Gives me lots of PC knowledge, great work!

[@michaeloneill1360]

Thanks Greg, that was valuable info re: the Bad Ryzen 5, 3600 Series CPU's! Not using one of those in my Next 'Budget Build'!

[@CousinSteve]

I had the same case and it had a problem with electric static charges. I could turn the computer on by touching the back of the motherboard with an HDMI lol. And if I just moved the case around on my table sometimes it will power off. But if I put the case on the floor no issues whatsoever. Let's say I got rid of the case

[@xinceras-6542]

That's just bizarre. I've never seen a bad CPU cause PSUs to power cycle rapidly or have their fans not spin. Very strange.

[@b0ne91]

First gen Ryzen has had issues with a core or two dying. Can usually be saved by disabling them in BIOS. Never had any issues with Zen 2.

[@OnlySkyGuy]

had my 3600 x for almost 2 years now. runs fine, i also have an aio way larger than what it needs and a high quality MB hopefully itll all be good

[@Eshcole]

It's interesting how this series exposes reliability issues that would otherwise get swept under the rug. The value of this series is incredible.

[@obese_gazelle5615]

I moved from a 3600 to a 5800x at the beginning of the year. In the nearly 4 months of use, I've had zero issues with the 5800x on an x570 hero mobo. With some issues I had while using the 3600 on a prime x570 pro, I'm starting to think most were from the cpu rather than mobo, gpu, or monitor. Didn't realize zen 2 had so many issues.

[@scottstamm7022]

I like that sometimes it can be a mystery issue with similar symptoms to something we've seen 100x's before.

[@janemba42]

I personally don't think it's a CPU issue I think it has to do with some motherboard revisions. Remember how originally AMD and board partners weren't going to support Gen 1 on Gen 2 boards, then the same with Gen 2 and 3? Most likely because of issues like this. These new Gen Zens pull more power than the previous Gen, to the point where it could fry things on the Mobo and in extreme cases, kill other components. That seems to be what happened here.

[@subbookkeeper]

Try washing the pins with isopropyl alcohol and a brush. There is probably some oxidation on few of them that's why they don't work after some time. I stumbled upon such issue already but washing the pins fixed it.

[@Hammercannon]

Thumbs up, thanks for the vids, AND FOR ADVERTISING Signal RGB, everyone complains about RGB software but no one seems to know about Signal RGB.

[@vamble363]

Just had to deal with something pretty similar to this last week, my pc just died on me, took 3 days off swapping parts and it had a ryzen 5 3600, with a lot of the same issues

[@matasa7463]

Rock those PJ's Greg. You're loving the dream! The paradigm shift to work-from-home continues...

[@danarredondo]

This fix or flop is my Favorite playlist!

[@poldelepel]

Hey Greg, You always complain you don't have a debug LED on the mobo. You can get PCIE DEBUG cards on one of those Chinese webshops. Never tried it myself. Maybe something to try when troubleshooting?

[@dennissmith1435]

Really like Signal RGB, also running Fan Control that JaysTwoCents reviewed. I've been able to remove all other RGB and fan control software from the PC. It handles all my devices with one exception which they, I'm sure, will add at some point. These are the solutions I've been looking for.

[@iceman95590]

I have had a problem with the second channel on Ryzen 2700X. One rma, replacement lasted 5 months, same problem. Second 2700x from stock lasted 3 weeks then same fault.32Gb memory, shown in bios, only 16 Gb usable in win 10. Ended up using 16Gb in single channel mode. Not ideal, but on my own system so fine. Broke 3 pins from the outside of cpu but still works fine, this was after the second channel fault(dropped it !) Now on Intel for main system.

[@clonedromegamingtv]

umm just food for thought.. have you tried to short the pins of the ryzen CPU.. I remember when I used to have an issue on my old old system (amd duron) and an old AMD A86600k. I just lay it flat on a old power supply (silver ones / china PSU/unpainted PSU) for about 10 secs.. then plug them back to the respective board.. then CMOS reset.. well it might turn back on.. if it does great.. if not well its worth a try.. if you have the time.

[@tonyhowes7339]

I also enjoy your content a lot. Getting in and getting your hands dirty on these computers literally. I'm almost looking forward to my pc failing so I can problem solve it the way you are teaching. Maybe I'll get the chance.... I have a ryzen 5 3600..........

[@Brandongotchabowles]

I had this VERY same issue once, I was cleaning my computer “ I always do a deep clean every 3 months “ once I got everything put back together it did this. Turned out to be a memory issue, which was very weird but once replaced it worked fine

[@pianoplayer88key]

No Debug LEDs of any kind? Hopefully those boards at least still have a PC Speaker header? Maybe you could get your hands on one of those PC Speakers and have it to plug in for situations like this one. For as long as I can remember, PCs with speakers have had POST code beep patterns that would indicate if there was a problem and what the problem was. I presume it's still a thing today?

[@dazextralarge]

Excellent video! Hope to see one day a video of you troubleshooting those bad chips with AMD

[@cbp45dk]

I have had pretty much same/similar issues with my aurus b450 ryzen 5 3600 itx setup, so i really suspected it to be the motherboard during watching this video. But interesting to hear about your experience the ryzen 3600(x) failures, cross my fingers that mine will keep working.

[@mike2kmagic1]

Hey Greg been enjoying your series of Fix or Flop! I just wanted to let ya know that I have a Ryzen 5 3600 since Jun of 2020 i believe so far it's held up! Praying it continues for a few more years lol.

[@crhend512]

Love the entire series Mr. Salazar, my only correction is that a PC can P.O.S.T. and not have video out. P.O.S.T. is the system Power On Self Test. In most cases a single short 'beep' from the pc speaker indicates a passed P.O.S.T. Higher end systems include a hexadecimal display that will display the post codes. Keep up your fine work.

[@Dave20VT]

@Greg Salazar: get yourself a chunk of copper or aluminum, or just a tower cooler without fans, a small one... and place it on top of the CPU for testing :) you dont need the pressure to cool the cpu while in windows. I was even running a sytem for 1 week, incl gaming, with a tower cooler just resting on top of the CPU :)

[@jamesangier624]

I had a 3600X / b450-f asus mobo, had a point where my pc was consistently blue screening on load, memory errors when launching apps and when rebooting it would show a black screen with a red CPU light on the mobo. Had no spares to test with so ended up upgrading to a 5800x & x570 asus board. No issues so far a year later

[@Rac3r4Life]

I had a dead 5800X. One day my system would blue screen at the login screen and boot loop until it would eventually just post in safe mode. I did a bunch of troubleshooting and eventually swapping in my old 3600 fixed it. I just got the warranty replacement 5800X yesterday.

[@VintageCR]

i wonder if the power supply 'clicking' or tripping out noise is some kind of build in safety feature on certain spec power supplies.. i had never heard that noise before. great video again! EDIT: and yes, after a quick Google search i found out that the clicking/ticking noise is actually a safety/protection feature in (cross my fingers) most units.