Mercedes Sprinter Camper Van - Gas Cupboard

Building a sealed gas cupboard for our Gaslow refillable LPG cylinder within our Mercedes Sprinter Van conversion that complies with the current European Standard.
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[@GregVirgoe]

I should explain further what is wrong with my choice of filler location. The black plastic cup that forms the back of the filler connection is not air tight at all in fact it has some quite big gaps in it. So when you release the nozzle some gas that is always released from the gun as it disengages goes through the back of the fitting and into my gas cupboard. It does clear via the drop out vent and it is a sealed chamber but it should not be in the van. I open the door up and vent any residual gas from the cupboard to make it safer after filling. This is why having one internally in a cupboard is absolutely a bad idea, because each time you fill that spent gas will go into your van.

[@chriseezzee]

Could the filter point not be sealed? Even boxed in from the rear of the gas box. I quite like the idea of it all being contained neatly within the gas box. I also like the height of the filler point (from a backache point of view)... My plastics low down are always covered in crud. Hmmm. Need to give this some thought.

[@RebelsInc969]

I've put an lpg tank underneath much better than a gas bottle 👍

[@Potz4pizza]

Greg, I know I'm not alone in saying that I really appreciate the time you take to upload these build videos. Top class!

[@michaell8835]

Potz4pizza 100% agree, wouldn’t be tackling my own build if it wasn’t for Greg, an inspiration and a great teacher 👍🏻

[@NorthWalesCampers]

Great video. As a mobile caravan service engineer, ideally your regulator and more particularly the hose supplying the regulator should be higher than the bottle tap as the lpg liquid can enter the regulator causing it to fail. As you open the bottle you are opening up 7 bar of pressure. Also ideas lly the regulator should have been mounted the other way to aide it bei g higher than the bottle. Ie intake of gas into the regulator at the top. Just a heads up. Those regulators are great though so you have that on your side. Loved the series and I hope your have an amazing time touring.

[@CormacOSheehan]

How would you suggest to test for leaks and how often should this be done? Is a manometer or leak spray necessary, or there's an easier way? Is the compound on the olives essential?

[@francishagen8508]

It’s always a pleasure to see your work 😊

[@GregVirgoe]

Thank you very much 👍🏼😊

[@linamatthews512]

I've really enjoyed watching this series. You have emphasized that DIY builds should and can be done safely without sacrificing quality. Thank you for sharing your talent. Have fun and stay safe.

[@CliffordDive]

This whole area is a nightmare. I'm building a Crafter LWB van as a project, with a view to perhaps hiring it out. I think this means it has to meet the BS EN 1949 and it has to pass a Gas Safe inspection. I've been talking to Gas Safe companies and they are all over the place in their advice. Most of them insist that the installation would not pass unless the locker is made out of metal - they quote a 20-minute fire resistance requirement. I believe that this is due to confusion with NCC requirements. I was looking at brand new (European made) commercial vans a couple of weeks ago and their lockers are built out of wood - so it would suggest that metal is not a requirement. One of the well known equipment suppliers also told me today that bottle-mounted regulators are not legal - which is also a bit of a nuisance if true, since I designed the locker with those in mind. Great video 😀

[@GregVirgoe]

In the regs there is no mention of material and many manufacturers have wooden gas cupboards. For approval seal out a motorhome gas service engineer to check it for you. Ask your local motorhome spares supplier for details. Alternatively an underslung tank would get round all these issues.

[@CliffordDive]

@@GregVirgoe - thanks Greg. I really appreciate your rapid and very helpful response - as well as all those great videos. I'm beginning to think an underslung gas tank would have been a good decision. I wanted to use that space for the grey water tank - it's close to the shower!

[@GaryThomsonJoinery]

Brilliant Greg, nothing comes close to this on KZbin or anywhere else, thank you for sharing 👍😄

[@aichachapman3845]

Hi Greg, Were hoping to get our new van within the next few weeks. For months now I have watched many many van builds on here. But I can honestly say your videos are the best and you explain everything in an easy way to understand... I do have to keep watching the electrics video and the gas one because for some reason it just doesn't stay in my head.. I just wanted to say a big thank you and if we ever see you round and about. Then I will get you a beer. Thanks again

[@marks-0-0]

Thanks for all your videos Greg. I rewatched your previous Gas video yesterday to confirm I can officially have a flexible pipe setup with a pull out camping stove because I'm very limited on space 👍

[@paulelverstone8677]

Simply a great series of van conversion videos. When it comes to my turn, I'll be heading straight back to these. What a fabulous resource you've provided for us all, Greg.... *thumbsup*

[@donjones3355]

I was thinking this was going to be a "Full Van Tour" Great video! Thanks.

[@davidpiper3652]

Once again you set the bar very high for the rest of us to follow. I am considering changing from a swappable cylinder to a refillable and was looking at under slung tanks. Not made my mind up yet. I hope the European tour is going well. Have a superb time.

[@bootmaker4864]

Brilliant presentation! Thankyou for taking the trouble to explain things so well.

[@jeffr0]

Your work is better-than-professional level.

[@flapbean]

Just bought myself a Kreg jig and I absolutely love it... 👍🏻 hope Europe is good! Happy trabels

[@GregVirgoe]

Flap Bean, we are sitting by the beach 🏖 while I type this happy days 😀

[@flapbean]

Greg Virgoe you can go off people you know! 😂

[@GregVirgoe]

Flap Bean sorry 😐🏖👍🏼

[@jeffreytreleaven66]

Hi Greg. Great series and great respect for your talent and teaching abilities. Please do a complete detailed walk through when you have time, and maybe a wish I would have done this different video after a few months of travelling. (If there is anything) Share your adventures! Thanks and happy travels!

[@Jacob2032]

thanks for the video! looking forward to the full van tour

[@projectsinmotion1405]

Your eye for detail is somewhat amazing, sorry to say I just don't have the patience like yourself, great work my friend.

[@humza__7723]

Hi Greg, will you be doing a full van tour? I am also interested to know what the total cost of the van build came to.

[@macdaddymcgrady]

Humza Moosaji watch the Q&A video, was about £10k for parts and fittings etc and £7k for the van from memory.

[@MF-vu6bj]

Hi Greg. Excellent quality content as usual

[@chrisrea7347]

Great video, Greg and as usual very informative and useful. Your attention to detail and craftsmanship is nice to see.

[@More-Space-In-Ear]

Another super informative video my friend, well done....👍🏼😊🏆

[@horstszibulski19]

A gas locker or a gas cupboard is the thing you built, with the gas in the tank bottle. A gas chamber is a room where the gas is free floating, usually to cause harm... At least as far as i understand...but I´m no natural speaker... :-P Great video, as usual from you, thanks for the detailed explanations! :-D

[@GregVirgoe]

Lol Horst, yes you are right, when we watched it back Lou said you can't say gas chamber, people will think back to the war 😳

[@bicanoo_magic3452]

In Australia we have a 'swap and go' setup where you can only exchange bottles, not refill them. I think this was done for safety as it doesn't require a skilled operator. So every petrol station and or hardware store has the standard 4.5kgs and 9kg bottles. Its about AUD$27 for a 9Kg refill. So in English money it costs about 14 pounds for a new exchange bottle. You also never have to worry about the bottles being out of date as you are continually receiving an up to date bottle. It cost me AUD$50 ten years ago for my first bottle and nothing extra after that.

[@markaloha3446]

Another great vid Greg, and really looking forward to the one on P-panels and security. Happy travels!

[@katcankan7129]

Another good video Greg. I read your pinned comment. I hope that you are enjoying your travels 😊

[@blurayffan66]

Another amazing video- so informative and well presented. Can't wait to see the van out on the open road and travelling around Europe.

[@Ballynoes]

It's like a new series of your favorite show comes on.... Greg has a new video out... compulsive watching. :-)

[@Ian-ic9lv]

Superb work again Greg

[@PaulAdshead]

another great video Greg, thanks for all your efforts. This one was very insightful. Hope you're having fun on your well-deserved trip!

[@michaell8835]

Thank you for another excellent Video Greg, and wishing you both amazing travels, how exciting! I'll be following your travel vlogs of course, with keen interest. M. ps, get the kettle on ;o)

[@charliethebubbles]

Good luck with your tour!!

[@jamessilvester9077]

Excellent videos, super helpful for our van conversion 😊

[@pageant1fd]

Jackson Leisure supplies ad. mentions that the Truma gas level monitor isn't suitable for refillable cylinders. Is the one you chose different Greg. I've zero knowledge on these things but would like your take on it. Great video.....again. Superb workmanship and fantastic instructions through commentary . Thanks for sharing.

[@GregVirgoe]

Frazel Carioca, we have the standard one as far as I’m aware. Thanks for pointing that out I will do some further checks myself. 👍🏼

[@DavidSmith-dv7ih]

Such a great professional finish .

[@cliffp.8396]

Excellent advice as usual, and refreshing to see. Thanks again for what you do.

[@malteweinreich8755]

Hiya Greg, Nicely done Mate well done with the Gas Box Mate :-)

[@pa_maj.MARTINI-van-MAN]

Can't wait to get the tour Greg 👀 My notifications were off, on now!

[@peterstreet4430]

Hi Greg brilliant video as always but could you just clarify exactly why you don’t like the position of the filler point. Hope you have a great time in Europe.

[@chriseezzee]

Yep. I would like this too.

[@jasoncolahan6399]

Always enjoy your videos. Very detailed 👍🏼

[@azzcoulton123]

Yes Greg another quality vid, search bar- Greg Virgo LPG

[@GregVirgoe]

Virgoe with an E 👍🏼😊 thanks very much for watching glad you liked it

[@tombould]

Hi Greg and thanks for all the videos and knowledge. Helping me 5yrs after you’ve released the video. So after deciding I’m going to go gaslow fill up point as you have I realise they don’t stock the white plastic flange you’ve put over it in order to get easy access to it from inside and maintain that all important vapour barrier and I’ve even phoned them to ask to no avail yet. I’m wondering if you can recall where you got this element of the build from and if you could direct me towards it. Thanks again for all your help.

[@PaulAdshead]

Hi Greg, just rewatching this one as I'm finally ready to fit the gas. Did you ever do a video on the security you added to the van? I'd be eager to see that. Hope you're having fun in Europe! Paul

[@TheWoodBasher]

Great video Greg! Your videos go into so much detail and provide all the info anyone would need to build this themselves. I now know how much work goes into making a video like this so well done. When will we be getting the first European tour update?

[@GregVirgoe]

The Wood Basher, I started editing last night so very soon

[@TheWoodBasher]

@@GregVirgoe Yeah I Decided to give my channel a name :)

[@danielmezzina-samuels9676]

Hi Greg! Super video as usual. I was hoping to ask where you got your hinges from? I couldn’t see a link in the video description. We’re struggling to find some that are adjustable as you describe in your video. Do let me know if you can

[@GregVirgoe]

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[@daveracer6885]

Great video, thank you for your time and thoroughness spent on this subject! Do you by chance have a diagram available of your propane system design? Because I have a question about the use of shut off (isolating) valves vs. solenoid vs. manifold. Do you use all 3? In this video (around timestamp 7:33) you mention that after the manifold there are no other joins in the copper pipes until they get to the appliance at the other end. However, in your “Mercedes Sprinter Camper Van - Truma Combi 4e” video (around timestamp 19:00) before this one, you’re installing an “isolating valve.” In your opinion, is it best practices in a propane system to have all 3: solenoid and manifold inside the propane locker, then a shutoff (isolating) valve at each appliance? Cheers.

[@GregVirgoe]

Sorry I don’t have a diagram for this. The solenoid valve is connected directly to the outlet of the regulator and is a fail safe device so in the event of power failure it will shut. I do have a manifold in the bottle cupboard and maybe this could be omitted as you can manually shut the bottle. Local isolation at each appliance is good I think for safety and maintenance purposes. Hope that helps

[@patricksmith2421]

Hi Greg I really enjoy your videos I was searching for the truma gas control solenoid that you used and couldn't find one where did you source yours . Keep putting up the videos they are great

[@GregVirgoe]

Here you go autogasshop.co.uk/product/truma-remote-gas-solenoid-and-switch-gs10-10mm-fitting/

[@WizzRacing]

I know they allow copper K type tubing for Propane. But I'm pretty sure they didn't mean for an RV. As it can bend, crack, swell from temperature changes and vibration...I would use Stainless steel flex lines...

[@turkerinan1735]

my legend!

[@SamWildeMusic]

Hi Greg, was just wondering where you got the blanking cap for the gas manifold? Did you use a threaded cap or is it a compression fitting one? Great video by the way. Really helpful for the build. Sam

[@mange2]

Hi Greg, great video. I wonder if someone can answer the question about why some Gas Engineers wont pass the system as safe if the cylinder is not housed in a 'metal' locker. There appears to be nothing in the regulations about the material of the locker. The one I've built is the same as yours, sealed cabinet.

[@GregVirgoe]

Mange 2 you will find all production motor homes are not metal lockers Dave, struggled to find one at the NEC show, nothing in the regs that states the type of material to use. It can only be for the fire rating as nothing would contain an exploding bottle, but again no mention in the regs?

[@mange2]

@@GregVirgoe yeah thats what i thought Greg. Cheers mate.

[@markcawley767]

Hi Greg - great video as ever.. I'm sorry the series is coming to an end.... I know from an earlier video that Truma were helping you on the use of their equipment so I'm wondering if they gave you any feedback on the level indicator and its suitability on the gaslow system. I'd read elsewhere that it may not be suitable so had decided against the purchase but I may reconsider based on your experience with it.

[@kevinmoxham7456]

As always Greg another great video, I've learned an awful lot over the last few months, watching your videos. Im just about getting round to the insulation on my build. Im looking forward to seeing your solar install video also the security as well. Many Thanks Kevin

[@PastorManningPhD]

Lovely notification, you made my day. Cheers

[@matthewjenkins1161]

Very complete guide there and I have just one question. The level device is battery powered I gather which means pulling the bottle out to recharge? Or did you run a feed to keep it charged in situ?

[@GregVirgoe]

Matthew Jenkins its fitted with two AAA batteries which have a long life, the bottle is connected by flex hoses so you can just lift it up to put new batteries in the device.

[@nicoslivesey2040]

Hey Greg, is there a maximum length the HP hose from the filling point to the bottle can be? Wondering how far the filling point can be to the bottle itself. Thanks!

[@africanhoopoetours]

Hi greg.thanks for all your amazing videos.pls show us where on the van that gas filler mount must be placed.you said if youd do it over you would put the point below floor level.my question is how that point would be protected against dirt etc.thanks.Marius from South Africa

[@campervibe]

Great video, im finding the gas so confusing, just want it to be safe! Do you know if the gas manifold needs to be in the gas locker? if I locate just outside the locker would I have to have another drop out in the floor?

[@GregVirgoe]

camper vibe I put mine in the locker for that exact reason. If you have gas joints or fittings and there’s a potential for a leak you should fit a vent. I put all the joints in the locker. So just a copper coil from that to each appliance. Have you watched my gas regulations video?

[@campervibe]

@@GregVirgoe thank you. Great channel btw, really helpful.

[@harryclark8320]

Hey Greg. So informative as always! I'm wondering whether to install an internal cylinder or an underslung tank...how long does a full cylinder last you usually and how often are you using hot water / oven etc? Thanks

[@GregVirgoe]

If you have the choice and are able to go for the underslung tank. If I had space I would have done that. More capacity, safer etc.

[@CliffordDive]

Hi Greg. At long last I've got my gas all connected and I'm ready for Gas Safe inspection. My problem is over the size of gas dropouts in the locker floor. As far as I can see the minimum area for this is 10,000mm². That equates to around 5 of the normal sized dropouts (about 50mm diameter hole). How is it that every van I've ever seen has nothing like that? Am I missing something?

[@garrystacey7018]

Interesting video thanks for sharing 👍🏻

[@melissawhitworth7614]

Can you put the filler point in the skirt below the flashing on a sprinter? It is wide double thickness and am anxious two 70mm holes will cause issues with integrity?

[@suefisher1077]

Have a good time

[@kamalkamalino2201]

What I don’t understand is that there is two gas lines coming from gas bottle I I understand one separate to two lines , one go for kitchen and one for shower, how about the other one ?thank you always for support

[@GregVirgoe]

Hi Kamal, the bottle is refillable so there is an outside filling point on the side of the van. From the fill point, there is a high-pressure stainless steel hose to the bottle, then off the bottle another high-pressure stainless steel hose to the wall mounted regulator. Off the top of the regulator is one 10mm copper pipe to the manifold, then off the manifold valves are two 8mm copper pipes, one goes to the cooker and one goes to the Truma boiler. Hope that helps you

[@chloewilson498]

Hi Greg, Really helpful video. I’m just installing a truma GS8 solenoid valve and the manual says it needs to go on a hose after the regulator rather than straight on the regulator. Have you had any problems with putting it straight on the regulator? Thanks so much!

[@GregVirgoe]

Hi Chloe, if you look at this manual Fig B + C it can be fitted either after a hose as you say or direct to the regulator. I had fitted a remote regulator so had a High Pressure hose off the bottle to the regulator then fitted my solenoid valve to the regulator.

[@dudeleboski2692]

Greg, after all of your travels throughout France, Spain as well as Portugal, would you opt for for refilling as you are here? Or would you Just refill moveable; 13 kilogram bottles (take out of the van independently each of the LPG bottles), and refill them in refineries In each country that you find yourself low on gas?

[@GregVirgoe]

Dude Leboski the refillable bottle is definitely the best way to go. So convenient and must cheaper than bottle exchanges. About third of the price.

[@TwoHandsInPants]

Thanks for sharing the information! Apparently the level sensor is battery powered. Do you know how long the battery lasts, and is it rechargable? Also, I'm guessing that the solenoid is closed when no power is applied, correct?

[@David-is1uv]

Hi Greg just found your channel I must say its very informative and I will be watching your videos to gain more knowledge especially about the gas bottle fitting, like Mark Crawley I'm very keen to find out how the Truma remote gas level has been working with the refillable bottle as the Truma site says it won't work with this type of gas bottle ? Can you let us know your experiences

[@GregVirgoe]

David Mckenna you’re right it doesn’t work with a refillable bottle. The mechanical float valve inside the bottle disrupts the ultrasound waves so it’s no use at all.

[@kitsnicks2778]

Thanks Greg, really helpful. Do you need a drop out vent near your gas appliances too? For example under the oven/grill? Thanks again

[@GregVirgoe]

Yes, I have one under the cooker and next to my boiler.

[@macdaddymcgrady]

Couple of questions greg, not specific to this content...Other then the location of the filler point is there anything else you would do differently? On the grey water tank location, is its proximity to the exhaust ok with the manufacturer? Now you're out on the road are there any issues developing, annoying rattles or squeaks? Why did you not fit air conditioning as well as heating... you seem well covered for the cold but not so much for a hot day in the south of spain!?

[@GregVirgoe]

macdaddymcgrady, re exhaust I thought that myself and did purchase exhaust wrap to insulate it but having used it a few times it's no effect at all. The tank is purpose made to go there so they must take it into account when building and it's very thick plastic 3/8" Issues - 1. the large pan draw was flying open on roundabouts, fixed with a magnet catch 👍🏼 2. My PC will not connect to any wifi devices in my van that is annoying me like mad as I can't upload any content. The rest of the van is working perfect. Good points - heating and hot water are amazing. 1 tank of water has lasted a week and we can both shower off one tank of hot water. 😃 2. The only source of electric we have used is solar, not needed to hooked up and have no split charge. So much free energy off the sun. Lastly the insulation and window blinds will keep the van cool during the day and roof vents will get rid of any hot stale air.

[@cabiexxx]

Hi Greg, I have been told that Truma do not recommend the Level control for Gaslow due to pipes in the bottle. Can you tell me how it is working for you? How accurate do you find it? I like the idea and am keen to get one if it works. Great videos by the way. Thanks.

[@GregVirgoe]

Miles, it doesn’t work with the refillable cylinder because of the stuff inside. It will feature in upcoming video. Cheers

[@cabiexxx]

@@GregVirgoe Thanks for the info, will watch out for the upcoming vid. Good luck.

[@garymclay9885]

Good video once again Greg. With the filling valve on the exterior of the van and the gas bottle permanent. Is it now ok to have the airtight gas cupboard access door inside the van? Or does it still have to accessible from the outside?

[@GregVirgoe]

It is ok to have it inside but best to have a sealed enclosure and drop out vent. In hindsight I wish I had put the tank underneath the chassis

[@cooperrocks2]

Brilliant videos Greg, really helping me with my camper conversion, could you send me a link to the regulator that you used please, thanks 👍

[@GregVirgoe]

Stephen Cooper no problems here you go rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F323647437074

[@VanKings]

Hi Greg, great video as always. How did you overcome the back door check strap that slides in where your gas cabinet is?

[@GregVirgoe]

I fold them back onto the door and secure with a small wooden wedge. don't need holes in any of the woodwork and works really well.

[@VanKings]

@@GregVirgoe amazing idea. Thanks for the reply buddy!! 🙌🏼

[@rocketpig1914]

Great job Greg. Is there no concern though over having the solenoid in the gas cupboard? Don't know if that amount of electric current could potentially be a source of ignition

[@contactingrichard]

Greg Thanks, as ever, for the great content. I am thinking of place my LPG bottle in much the same place. How far along the side of the van (from the back) would the filling point need to be located so that it was a minimum of 500mm from the rear doors? I think I will locate mine under the van as you suggest. Thanks, again. Your videos are enormously useful. Richard

[@GregVirgoe]

I would locate it under the van if I did mine again. More capacity and just safer being outside.

[@contactingrichard]

Thanks, Greg. Being under the van, would it still need to be more than 500mm from the rear doors?

[@contactingrichard]

Ah! I think you mean locate the tank/cylinder outside.

[@nickthompson9192]

Hi Greg. As always, videos very informative. Do you have a link to the regulator you used? thanks. (I'll owe you another beer donation soon) 🎉

[@GregVirgoe]

I used a gaslow 10mm regulator because I had 10mm pipe going to my valve manifold. Here is the link to it www.gaslowdirect.com/product/cavagna-30mbar-regulator-10mm/ They also make an 8mm version if you needed that instead. 🍻😃

[@nickthompson9192]

@@GregVirgoe thanks Greg. N

[@MACmillanish]

hi Greg, ive just purchased my van for conversion,Peugeot boxer lwb and ive been constantly re watching your build videos. the question i have for you is did you consider an under slung gas tank and if not why not. Keep up the good work

[@SandroTrunz]

As always: THANKS HEAPS for your masterly tutorials. QUESTION: It's driving me up the walls. I remember having watched one of your tutorials on either gas installation or water services where someone criticized you for using this and that kind of connection, whether to use tape or not and so forth ... Somewhere thereabouts a certain EFFECT occurring when pipes (water or gas) are fitted the wrong way or too closely. Anyone any idea? Thx (even more heaps), Sandro

[@GregVirgoe]

Sandro Trunz I don’t recall that particular criticism but I can highlight some key points. PTFE tape should NEVER be used on compression fittings only use approved jointing compound on the olive. The LDPE water pipe requires an insert on the hot water as the temperature can soften the tube and cause leaks. I would avoid using jubilee clips wherever possible as they are very difficult to make watertight. Orange hose on permanent gas installations is not allowed they have to be copper connections. Think that’s the most important ones. If you remember any others please do ask me again. 😊

[@coratheexplorer1824]

Where is that long awaited van tour

[@eddvanlife7396]

GregI see you fitted the Truma Remote Solenoid valve. Was this for 1. Switching off the Gas supply whilst driving? 2. Isolating the gas supply to satisfy French authorities on a. Ferry Crossing b. Euro channel Crossing 3. Both. Lots of chat on MH forums regarding this subject. I always like to go to the Oracle 'Mr Virgoe'.

[@simonshenry]

Great job, would you not worry about the gas pipelines being near your electric socket. Just if you ever had a leak Just a thought

[@BenMitro]

I think if there was a leak and gas came out, it probably wouldn't make too much difference where the electric socket was located Simon. I think gas from a leak, being heavier than air, will drop and dissipate across the entire contained area very quickly. Only thing that could be done for this scenario is to raise the electric sockets well above the "spill over" level - that is where gas can flow out of the vehicle, and even that is dubious because some gas will get into the air and quickly reach a combustible mixture ratio. Perhaps a strategically located gas detection device that shuts off all electrical power in the living area that will automatically shut off the electric gas valve Greg has fitted could be a good idea. I'm in the early stages of a build myself and have considered going all diesel for cabin heating, water heating and cooking simply because diesel will only combust when it is above 52oC. The biggest obstacle is the cost of diesel appliances compared with gas appliances. I've seen diesel heaters emerge that are quite cheap but they are new and are still an unknown quantity while diesel hot water and cooking appliances remain quite expensive.

[@simonshenry]

@@BenMitro yeah your probably right, I just see the socket and my heart fluttered lol only as I heard a story my friend told and just sor gas, next to a socket, like you say gas is heavier and I'm sure you would smell ect great build you have done an absolutely stunning job and very well done, the comment wasn't to stick a knife in it was just a thought. Keep you the great work and keep up with the fantastic build. This is my dream to do a camper for our family trips away. Regards

[@BenMitro]

@@simonshenry I figured your comment was well intended Simon. In my build, the most surprising thing (that always in retrospect is not surprising) is the amount of planning and research and the amount of details that is required. I wish you the very best with your dream - so far mine has been extremely rewarding despite the insanely slow progress.

[@sypris1001]

Hi, Do you have any good examples of fitting a filler point with a bracket down below the skirting of the van? As always your videos are very detailed and informative, thank you :)

[@swleek]

Hi Greg, I see you have a single 11kg Gaslow bottle. How long do you go between fills, considering you have gas, water, heating, hob and oven? With hindsight do you think it is worth fitting 2 bottles?

[@kevindehinkelai7464]

Brilliant vid Greg as always,hope the van tour is a success and you have a great time! Greg could you explain why you don't like the original position of you gas refiller ?

[@dannyclark131]

Hi, did you provide an effective means of ventilation for the water heater itself? Would a drop vent be a sufficient means of ventilation? and what other safety features would be required of a confined space for a fixed, permanent water heater like this?

[@denweston5941]

Hi Greg. I'm just planning my refillable gas installation and just recapped your videos on this. I'm happy with the regulations and your concerns of where to position the refill point ie lower down on the van. I've read elsewhere that the cabinet should be fire resistant i.e metal lined as well as airtight. Are you aware of any changes to the regulations since you built your gas cabinet? I will definitely get mine checked out and certificated once installed. Keep up the good work. You explain things that I don't understand in a way that I do if that makes sense. Well done and stay safe.

[@GregVirgoe]

Den Weston there is nothing in the regulation that’s states what material the cupboard needs to be made of. Obviously a metal one does offer more fire protection than wood if you had a fire in the van it would take longer to get to the bottle so safer for fire brigade etc. As long as it’s sealed drop out vent and two bottle straps that is ok

[@denweston5941]

@@GregVirgoe Thanks mate.

[@daleflaherty]

2 questions... where are you from? How much have you invested in doing this?

[@GregVirgoe]

From the UK. This video will give you a detailed breakdown. kzbin.info/www/bejne/n3K1nIegmbpmhc0

[@Smudgie]

Hi Greg, I have a question regarding the position of the dropout vent. Would it be acceptable to have it underneath the gas bottle if you had the gas bottle supported on legs?

[@biggreymandaandmia486]

Hi Gregg, I notice you have 2 straps to secure your gas bottle....I have a campingaz 907 bottle. With my bottle being so short do I still need to use 2 straps or will 1 around the middle be alright do you think?

[@GregVirgoe]

This is the extract from the latest gas regulations, it does not sepcify any detaisl about size of bottle. So the way i read this you do need two means of restraint. 5.4 Requirements for the construction of cylinder compartments The cylinder compartment shall be designed so that: a) cylinders can be secured rigidly in an upright position with the valve uppermost to operate only in the gaseous phase to prevent inadvertent movement when the vehicle is in motion. For this purpose there shall be means of securing the cylinders at high and low level.

[@biggreymandaandmia486]

@@GregVirgoe your a legend. Thank you. 😁

[@matthewblackburn8756]

Hi Greg Just wondering where you buy the re-fill points from I don’t necessarily want to buy the gas flow ones I thought I’d be able to buy them separately

[@JonathanVuillemin]

AMazing video Greg! I am just about to start a daunting sprinter conversion on my own and I don't know what I would have done without you! I was wondering what is your view on underslung fixed refillable LPG tank? Are they as reliable and safe as having them in a gas cupboard?

[@grandesigner]

HI Greg. Another quality video. Can you say how this is equivelant to a gas storage locker. ie, youve sealed the joints with a type of mastik I presume. Is there a need for the metal locker box or is your locker is sufficient? I'd quite like to save 200 quid tbh but not if you carry any doubts.

[@jongreaves3850]

hi, excellent video series - can you tell me what size cylinder you are using 6Kg? and what regulator you used please. TIA

[@joeharrison4312]

Ello Greg! Don’t know if im being stupid here but what happens the other other of the manifold? Will I need to put a stop end on there?

[@GregVirgoe]

Joe Harrison good question. mine came with a blanking plug that fitted inside the compression nut. Alternative you could fit a very small bit of tube with a cap end.

[@nickjury5198]

Hi Greg, I'm just about to start converting a Sprinter to a camper and whilst at the NEC I had a look at the Truma water heater and also the Gaslow system. I see you have one 11kg gas bottle fitted, have you found just one bottle lasts long enough to power both your cooker plus the Truma or are you having to refill quite often? Also have you found the Truma 4 provides enough heat for your sprinter or would you upgrade to the Truma 6? Excellent video👍 Regards, Nick.

[@johnsallotment993]

Hi Greg, Great informative videos! So much good advice! I’m wanting to install a refillable system to my self converted van and my gas locker is in the centre of the van. I’m wanting the refill hose to go through the floor of the gas locker and out to the side of the of the van tucked away underneath like you’ve mentioned you wish you had done. I’m just curious if this is possible and is there a maximum length the refill hose can be according to the gas regulations? I’ve hit a bit of brick wall figuring this out! Thanks and keep up the great videos!

[@leesmith9299]

I might have missed it but I don't think you said why you don't like the position you chose. What's wrong with it?

[@edthomsett835]

Hi Greg, I'm about to install a similar system in my van. What did you use to extend the fill point on the inside of the van to meet the back of the gas locker, was it just a standard piece of plastic piping sized to fit over the top of everything? Cheers!

[@DARKMATTERTIME]

In that manifold if you would close the first valve ,would that close the second one too?

[@daveracer6885]

Great question and good point! It would appear so! This leaves me to wonder what the point of having the manifold to begin with, is, and especially inside the propane locker (where it looks very tight to reach). In the propane locker, you already have the solenoid installed so you can shut off propane flow remotely, and if needed you can also turn off the propane flow directly at the propane tank. Wouldn’t it then more useful to leave the manifold out entirely in favor of having shut off (isolating) valves at the appliance directly? If so, the trick then would be to mount the shut off (isolating) valves discreetly, yet accessible, eh?