Beating Kingdom Come Deliverance: Quest Rewards Only!

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I attempted to beat Kingdom Come: Deliverance using only gear and gold I acquired as Quest Rewards. This would be played on Hardcore mode with all 9 negative perks and had the following rules:
I am only allowed to use items given as quest rewards
No Maintenance, Herbalism, or Alchemy is allowed
No Haggling to make items cheaper
No Stealth, Poisoning, or Avoiding Combat allowed
Can only make Morally Right decisions
All 9 Negative Perks:
--Nightmares: Strength, Agility, Vitality, and Speech skills take a -2 debuff for 2 hours after waking up
--Claustrophobia: Wearing a full-faced visored helmet causes Henry to deal less damage to enemies
--Haemophilia: Henry bleeds out faster and the bleeding is harder to stop
--Numbskull: Henry gains XP at 60% of the normal rate
--Consumption: Stamina regenerates slower
--Shakes: Archery, Pickpocketing, and Lockpicking are harder to use
--Tapeworm: Henry gets hungry faster
--Somnambulant: Henry sometimes gets up in random locations after sleeping in a bed, "sleep walking"
--Brittle Bones: fall damage is significantly increased

[@Korelie]

Henry: you may go, but leave your ear behind Bandit: what

[@Griff_Gaming]

Right?? I thought it was fair, besides he has 2 of them. Least he can do is give me 1!

[@michaelgoodwin80]

When did Peter leave the Bible and change his name to Henry? 😂

[@Tekken2028S]

Lying about the number of soldiers is not an honourable thing to do, it also puts the lives of your people at risk by having them go in underpowered - tisk tisk

[@HMJ66]

Yeah I couldn't understand that either - the honourable thing to do would be to be honest about the number of enemies and bring the right number of soldiers for the job - by pretending there are fewer than there are, you're basically sending the few men who *do* get sent to fight into a situation where you know they'll be heavily outnumbered and likely die in the fight. Seems pretty dishonourable to me.

[@ponymalone3636]

it's the robb stark approach

[@Rabijeel]

To be honest, I did lie, too. Even though I cleared the Campside, I told them so we get the max Number of Sldiers with me. Losses are not neccesary for that, better Safe than sorry.

[@Death2cesar]

@@Tekken2028S laughing in sir radzigs hood

[@azzor4134]

To be fair, he didn't have time to see anyone in that camp!

[@concretel10n]

Converting to a monk at the slightest whiff of crime is quite funny

[@Griff_Gaming]

"Hi God, me again, so I did a thing..." 😂

[@SternenruferinPatchouli1]

.no need to steal anything in Talmberg...run to Lady Stefanie, ask her for money and bribe the guard at the gate...done.the 30 Groschen she gives you should be enough

[@Griff_Gaming]

Good tip, I had always stolen the armor and pocketed the money Stephanie gives. Forgot you could bribe him

[@SternenruferinPatchouli1]

@@Griff_Gaming you need speech for this

[@SternenruferinPatchouli1]

@@Griff_Gaming haha you will loose the money anyways in skalitz when you go back :)

[@helenastenvislavskovic]

Except bribing would be dishonourable 😜

[@mikloskertesz695]

He could have gone to the bath house to heal poisen

[@adawang4458]

Virgin Black Peter VS GigaChad Honorable Henry, love your KCD challenge run, you get my subscribe!

[@Griff_Gaming]

Thank you! This was the first of many!

[@Strat-Guides]

Nice run! Speaking to the janky combat system, I had a 80+ hour challenge run almost come to an end because of how they teleport into combat and lock in a combo on you. Such a fun game, but the combat system (at times) is horrendous lol. Keep up the great work!

[@Griff_Gaming]

Thank you! I definately agree. Very fun and unique combat but so ambitious for such a small studio and it definately shows up from time to time! Hope everything is settled down for you since your move and glad to see you posting again! Enjoying your current run on your Let's Play channel!

[@ilayohana3150]

I absolutely love the combat, for all it's flaws I think it sometimes adds. It can be very difficult and cause you to restart several times but then when you get it right it's all the more satisfying.

[@krystofcisar469]

tbh thatcombat system is perfect for 1v1s,game struggles only with mass fights and with textures - I often got stuck into bush when fighting multiple bandits somewhere on road :D

[@marc7817]

oh yes... and wait you are in 1v5 and guy run and smash you because its a tackle for the game but he is in front of you

[@Jalkoth]

Got to agree the combat is janky I can be in full plate armor with high stats, get ambushed by bandits wearing very little and still get beat

[@Sergei-kr3ds]

Man, awesome video as usual. Crime is just too broken in KCD and tbh, even just looting is too, since at any point you can just go to Skalitz and get end game armor. Anyway, so that brings me to a play style I am trying rn, tho I am not far with it. I call it "Skin-walker", the idea is that you can only wear looted armor. The catch is, you have to wear everything that a given enemy had on you along with his weapon. You can´t just take helmet for example, it´s all or nothing. And another catch, you have to change after every fight. If you fight a group, you have to pick one. So if you have great gear and kill a peasant, you have to downgrade yourself. Inspiration: Sai´s picturebook in Naruto.

[@Griff_Gaming]

That is an awesome idea! I think that would add a lot of strategy to it for sure. Do you go for the lightly armored but easy to kill or go for heavily armored but hard to kill option? I have something similar to that I'm planning right now just based around no groschen. Only way to acquire anything is to loot off corpses, not allowed to maintain anything, including weapons

[@Sergei-kr3ds]

@@Griff_Gaming I prefer heavy armor, but so far it ended up sort of a progress from light to heavy because of the enemy scaling. My favorite challenge about it is that it forces Mr to use various weapons. It's also cool that my Henry looks unique because I have gear I wouldn't nornally wear.

[@Kwelnener]

Being 2-3 months into KCD, this was super fun video to watch! Well done Griff! Looking forward to the next one. :D

[@Griff_Gaming]

Thank you! More to come very soon!

[@Widlrr]

You can steal the weaponsmith armors plus grosc in rattay

[@muhammadharits7127]

Oh boy good for you didn't have to wait too long for a new game from warhorse

[@Kwelnener]

@@muhammadharits7127Heck yeah! Excited to hear what next week brings us.

[@paritoshd]

I didn't even know you could lose at Priby for having too few men! When I tried that at launch, we made it to the church yard, and only 3 were left- Radzig, Robard, and Jaroslav. They all took turns getting knocked out and getting back up. Didn't fail me.

[@Griff_Gaming]

Yeah, I think they patched it because I can promise, after seeing that screen about 15 times, you can definitely fail that battle 🤣

[@elevenchuck2446]

I thought this run looked pretty tough, but doable until 6:00. You mentioned all food had to be bought. That didn't cross my mind until then. No grabbing free stew, worth 25 nourishment, that is littered throughout the world. You did the impossible bud!!! great content!

[@Griff_Gaming]

Thank you! It was a lot of fun! More content soon!!

[@Ro_-ki6yr]

In hardcore they’re only worth 5 nourishment

[@lol-hy4mk]

Dishonoring a maiden before marriage is not honorable

[@forests.9597]

But Henry does have intentions to marry her, so it's OK

[@gokufirespit8418]

I’m glad you were able to take out the Cuman camp on your own terms, but I think that having as few soldiers as possible was the less honorable thing to do anyway. It’s true that you were putting less lives at risk, but you were putting those lives at greater risk. If the goal was being honorable, I think it would’ve made more sense to have the numbers be as equal as possible to give each individual soldier the best odds of survival.

[@Griff_Gaming]

Just tried to see if it was doable with mid level gear and minimal troops for challenge reasons. I was willing to go back and ask for more if it turned out it wasnt.

[@handlewithoutcare]

Bro this the BEST KCD video I have ever watched. Had me rolling when you rolled down the monastry 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Griff_Gaming]

Thanks, took a lot of editing so I'm glad you liked it!

[@handlewithoutcare]

@Griff_Gaming I am shocked at the low number of subscribers you have. I would suggest try tapping the Indian marker somehow. I think both KCD and creators like you would benefit a lot. I am from India and I am glad I found you

[@maxpuigpowell8630]

A knight who’s the son of a blacksmith not knowing basic armor and weapon maintenance? Sure, your challenge

[@Griff_Gaming]

Yeah more for the challenge aspect, if I could just repair my own gear it kind of negates the need for money.

[@SchlickSteve]

dude that peter fight was clean af

[@Griff_Gaming]

Thanks, glad you enjoyed!

[@rasmuswittsell10]

No haggling is a bit harsh, considering you were expected to haggle. Traders will still get the better of every deal. I would, however, agree that disallowing haggling for repairs makes sense.

[@Griff_Gaming]

Trust me at the start when money hard to come by it is a little rough. I thought of it like if I haggled being a "shady merchant" always trying to get a better deal. It was more just to make it even harder to come by gear and repairs so my groschen is stretched even thinner

[@dnelson1676]

I can't believe i'm watching someone use combos in KCD. I did my hardcore all neg and could only do the standard 3 hitters and 4 if i was super lucky. Salutations Henry!!!

[@Griff_Gaming]

It's a little easier with open face helmets. You don't run out of stamina quite so quickly but it makes you a little more vulnerable to stabs to the face

[@TrialBySquire]

Nice. I'm doing my no money run right now on normal mode. It's certainly a different experience. I've been saving mission rewarded money (has to be given to me, nothing taken) for the rebuild of pribyslavitz. I haven't done all the possible side missions but most of them (my main mission is ready for vranik) and it was barely enough to get the tavern built which is the point where the town becomes profitable. So if you spend your coin on needless luxurious like the ability to read or a place to sleep you may not be able to finish From the Ashes.

[@Griff_Gaming]

Very interesting! I didn't even attempt From the Ashes just because I didn't think I would get enough money to even afford some profitable buildings. Bc before even building anything, the materials are several thousand (I think the granite is like 3k if you help them at the quarry)

[@TrialBySquire]

@@Griff_Gaming yeah you'll need like 10k for the trader, bridge, and woodcutter. Then starts supplies where you need the 3 to 4k for stone. I got Marius to keep his old wage and recruited raspberry, kunesh, and kornelius. I got the cheapest livestock (woodcutter bonus) and waited on the rest of supplies. That with a couple judgements optimized for income I was able to just break even on daily costs. At that point it's 8k for the tavern (and 80 for grain) to start making around 500/day. So really you need almost 22k to go from start to profitable in From the Ashes.

[@Griff_Gaming]

I didn't think that much money could even be made from all the quests in the game tbh. I also pigeon holed myself on this run bc I didn't take any that involved stealing (no millers and no hunting since the meat would be stolen) along with some others I felt would be at other people's expense (for example helping Herman get rid of the other executioner bc it involved embarrassing him, etc) I would be curious how much you can actually make total by completing every single quest in the game

[@TrialBySquire]

@@Griff_Gaming the poaching, Millers, and camp clearing probably paid the best. Some missions I couldn't do without spending money/knowing how to read so that restricted me but definitely not as bad as an Honorable ruleset would. If I had to buy my food or gear there would be no way. It's interesting. Money farming (i.e. skalitz runs and vendor exploits) really makes the game economy feel trivial but being a skilled thief might be just as op. Sure, I can't bribe, read, or pay for repairs but I had a 16 charisma outfit and a 20vis/0 nose outfit after my first ratay raid. Between the two setups I was unstoppable. I could tell any guard to shove it whilst wearing all stolen equipment.

[@Griff_Gaming]

Yea I never noticed until this run just how OP looting and stealing was. Like coming our of skalitz I usually have the same money I probably had after Prybislavitz in this run

[@SoldAsIs]

When you fight Black Peter, you can go to the bathhouse to cure your wounds and it’ll get rid of the poison effect.

[@Griff_Gaming]

That's true but you can't sprint or run so likely hood I would have made it all the way over there was very slim with the remaining health I had unfortunately

[@BeatsByHGFRaiden]

@@Griff_Gaming couldnt you have called your horse over?

[@Griff_Gaming]

@BeatsByHGFRaiden pebbles would spook if I was still in battle. Either way I only had 15 groschen and wasn't allowed to haggle. Cheapest healing option at baths is 20 so I wouldn't have been able to either way unfortunately

[@thechappist]

I don't remember how I got into the monastery, but I was able to finish the game with no kills and zero crimes all down the line. Your video makes me want to try it all over again to be a perfect Henry again. hmmm

[@Griff_Gaming]

Unfortunately that minestary quest is the killer of a "perfect" run. You either have to lockpick the chest to steal the writ, pickpocket it from the handler, or say screw the monestary and kill Pious without being accepted. I have yet to find a way to do it without doing anything morally wrong (steal, murder, etc.)

[@thechappist]

@@Griff_Gaming I think what happened for me was that I did end up pick pocketing (I went back and loaded the save right before I apparently did that) and I suppose when you only take a quest item, it doesn't register as a crime.

[@RedBeerd]

Watching this I'm pretty sure I saw at least eight hundred different side quests and other encounters I didin't even know existed. Jesus Chris be praised; my brain has melted.

[@Griff_Gaming]

Ironically this playthrough I had to skip so many quests because they were "dishonorable" (for example the millers quests) but I think in total there is like 119 quests in this game (including DLC).

[@notforwantoftrying1]

There is a way to get past the monestary without pickpocketing, because I did a very similar run to this myself a few years ago. If you climb the scaffolding you can get onto the roof of the monestary and kill Pious with an arrow. You don't even need to loot the dice, simply return to the bandits and they will be aware that one of the novices was killed and you can advance the quest. Whether this would be valid for your run or not is debatable. On the one hand, it involves killing an NPC that did not directly initiate combat with you. On the other hand, Pious is a murderer and even if you take the "peaceful" route you will send him to the gallows anyway, so you still technically end up causing his death. Other than that, nice video. It would have been good to add another couple of rules to it. 1) No training with Bernard other than when the games forces you to + once more for each weapon to unlock master strikes. 2) No cheesing Chumps on the river, only play it once to get the one-time archery training he gives you if you beat the record score.

[@PaleGhost69]

Nice to see that I wasn't the only one who thought of this. Although my end goal was pribizlavitz (sp?). I wasn't allowed to buy anything that wasn't given to me, like food and ammo, and I used alchemy to be self-sufficient. This character was also "dyslexic" and had to read jumbled letters to make potions, which was almost as much of a challenge as using the quest rewards only.

[@PaleGhost69]

Oh yeah, and he created his own tournament in the tavern with everyone having special dice sets. Even with lucky throw and the beer, that was a real challenge.

[@Griff_Gaming]

It was a lot of fun for sure!

[@mlodywerter]

Funfact about a horse race in Talmberg, if you push every participant on rocks under castle, race will be canceled

[@KXNG_BXNZ]

It's nice to see someone that is good at this game struggled with Peter as much as I did hahaha

[@Griff_Gaming]

Yeah, Black Peter was an ass in this run. Don't usually struggle like this with him but he had my number that day

[@KXNG_BXNZ]

@Griff_Gaming And it's so funny too cause I 2-0'd him in the arena QUICK, then he proceeds to whoop my ass for the next hour and a half just the next day 🤣

[@fastgunnns3881]

If I remember correctly, during the initial patrols you do in Rattay, you get a bludgeon that you could've used for the Jakey fight.

[@Griff_Gaming]

I had gotten it. That's what I initially used to kill the first couple bandits but I think I had already sold it at that point

[@olafthemoose9413]

Headcracker is so stupid. I remember headcracking Runt on my 2nd attack basically entirely skipping the mini boss fight. Also I think you can sneak into the monastery via the construction site and kill the hiding bandit. Not sure if you have to pick any locks or if taking the dice counts as stealing.

[@Griff_Gaming]

In this run unfortunately both. To break in required lockpicks and to get the die off him would have been looting but also required killing him which would have been a crime. Fortunately killing the bandits was ok just because it was self defense. I agree about headcracker but when it prompted during the Black Peter fight it was the greatest perk ever created lol

[@olafthemoose9413]

@@Griff_Gaming just found your channel and started binging your stuff. Love the KCD content, such a great game I absolutely love it.

[@MoonshineSazerac]

Videos like this make me miss MittenSquad.

[@Griff_Gaming]

RIP Mitten. I think any RPG youtuber doing challenge runs owes some tribute to Mitten Squad and I'm no exception

[@PommiMaisteri]

Noticed on my hardcore run that on the Pripyzlaviz fight if you get next to the archers shooting on top of the wall and jump they will switch to swords and jump down from the wall.

[@PommiMaisteri]

also would love to see an unarmed combat only challenge

[@Griff_Gaming]

Did you burn all their arrows during recon? I've noticed they jump down too but only when I burn their arrows unfortunately which I wasn't allowed to do in that run. Far as unarmed only, while not "part of" the challenge, that essentially what my NPC run became so you can check that out on the channel. Unarmed and no armor throughout

[@PommiMaisteri]

@@Griff_Gaming didn't burn the arrows, yeah i cheked the NPC video.

[@Griff_Gaming]

I'll have to try that then. On most of my challenge runs I don't burn the arrows either and I always thought the only way to get them off the wall was to limit their arrows.

[@RL-]

I did something a bit like this to start my current run (four years after my first playthrough). I did pick up weapons under certain conditions (the Skalitz bailiff's short sword when you go back to bury your parents for example, as it would probably be looted anyway, and Henry would probably want to put it through some scumbags in revenge), but for the most part I used my original clothes, original armour and bludgeon (from the Rattay patrol quest), and the bow you win from Capon. It was a lot more fun playing like that without stealing, although I did level up skills like lockpicking and pickpocketing on enemies without actually stealing stuff just in case they were ever needed for a quest. Slaying enemies was fine but I mostly levelled up combat skills by training, and only really levelled up my bow with contests or hunting once you're allowed to later on. I found I actually had more money than ever when a certain Pribyslavitz DLC quest came along. I always try to pick more moral dialogue options and whatnot (threatening or bribing enemies is cool, but I'd be diplomatic/sympathetic with innocents and try to help people wherever I could). I was lucky to avoid a "civilian death" when I first got ambushed by Black Peter. I reloaded when I realised it counts against you, so this time I knocked him out without really knowing what to do. I slashed him with his poisoned sword, he died after a delay and it didn't count as a civilian death 😅 The longsword Hanush gives you for the Uzhitz priest thing was with me until I was able to buy a Tusk, and the same for Capon's hunting bow until I could buy a Sinew bow. I did buy a Rattay shield while doing stuff for them, and that was good for me until I got the Skalitz shield. Same goes for tournament armour and shield rewards. It was nice not being a super soldier early on. I'm trying to get the Virgin trophy this time around too, so Theresa will have to wait for that third "date" lmao Anyway, enough waffling from me. Very enjoyable video! 🫡

[@Red-Coat_Rookie]

Glory to the Head-cracker Perk!

[@Griff_Gaming]

You have no idea how grateful I was when I saw that pop up! Lol

[@NoGuff88]

Great Playthrough! You should now do the opposite run! Only evil choices!

[@Griff_Gaming]

I have some ideas how I might be able to do that as a challenge run

[@Richard-yt9vi]

Ive snapped many games in half out of frustration when i was younger i have much more patience now

[@Griff_Gaming]

I might have to get this one digitally, as much as I love the first one I've def rage quit it multiple times! Lol

[@Richard-yt9vi]

@@Griff_Gaming thats why I get all my games digitally

[@Sopranos990]

​@@Richard-yt9vii would if they weren't so damn pricey

[@flower2382]

If you go to the bathhouse while poisoned, they can cure it 12:00

[@maggi98mw]

You can also outheal it, did that in my first encounter with it

[@AgentX2006]

@@maggi98mw I'm not sure if you can do that on harcore difficulty since one of the changes is "Health potions take much more time to take effect." and Revenant no longer causes health regen.

[@SternenruferinPatchouli1]

the Horse Olena that comes when you whistle is not STOLEN! whistling brings her to you AND the Cumans leave Theresa alone!

[@Griff_Gaming]

The horse in the game isn't classified as "stolen" but the journal even says steal a horse and Henry says he stole a horse to go to Talmberg. So technically from a "game mechanics" standpoint you are correct but from an "ethical" standpoint he takes a horse that isn't his, therefore stolen

[@SternenruferinPatchouli1]

@@Griff_Gaming it does not say STEAL, it says GET A HORSE...dunno if the english game is different

[@Griff_Gaming]

Maybe I'm thinking of talmberg it says to steal. Either way, it was more in the spirit of the run to not "steal" something that wasn't directly given to Henry

[@SternenruferinPatchouli1]

​@@Griff_Gaming well...that might be true..

[@mrcheesemunch]

Bro that bandit at the 17 minute mark is literally just an anime protagonist, got his ass kicked by the villain and had a deathbed powerup

[@Griff_Gaming]

He definately had a power level over 9000 for that second encounter lol

[@mrcheesemunch]

@@Griff_GamingGreat vid will be checking out more. God I hope we get a KCD 2 announcement soon, this one was super jank at times but still so good. Few games have made me feel so immersed...just don't look at the people spawning inside each other, they're not real, they can't hurt you(they might don't touch them, don't perceive them ever)

[@aspiringadonis1253]

@@mrcheesemunch aged quite well

[@StimsonMusic]

Interesting to see what stuff you have to do if you want to be a good person... No wonder I always have lockpicking and stealth up high first^^

[@Griff_Gaming]

Usually I do too so this llaythrough just felt wierd. Especially no looting lol

[@natsudragneel95240]

You looted the hares with Lord Capon. You've broken your own rules 🤣

[@theginge1715]

I think it’d be great to see a bow only run of KCD. With the combat already being unforgiving, I would love to see the struggle

[@Griff_Gaming]

That's definately coming in the future. Probably after this next run I do as an NPC. Luckily I'm pretty good with a bow in this game but not having the option to use melee when facing multiple opponents definately makes the difficulty spike

[@jaiell2049]

I'm kind of doing that but on normal, and so far it's pretty much been a breeze so long as you've got good armour and you kite very well against groups

[@DmytroBogdan]

Haggling is not a crime. This means merchants put prices way above an actual value of the item. You could hit logs one more time for antidote potion. 2 times is not considered farming, it means you like the contest😅

[@KXNG_BXNZ]

My first time playing, Reeky carried my ass in that fight hahaha I hadn't gone to combat training and learned master strikes until I got to the counterfeit coins part lmmfao

[@Griff_Gaming]

He always usually either gets in my way or let's me down. Glad to see him pull his weight in this one lol

[@italomorais9424]

"tried sitting on their log". Pause

[@4mr2smokey0]

For kunesh debt money. After he says no. You can basically just talk to father and he’ll give you the groschen you need for charcoal.

[@Griff_Gaming]

Very true, there's several ways to get the charcoal. Somehow going back to father to me in this case seemed cowardly (kind of like tucking my tail between my legs and giving up on getting it) so I went with lockpick option in this case. Not much better since you kind of back down from the confrontation but a little problems solving nonetheless

[@Urban_Lab369]

oh shit ive tried that too, bad memories coming up

[@Griff_Gaming]

Harder than it seems at first. Especially me I restricted the side quests I allowed myself to do (millers quests, etc)

[@Hung-Ly]

NO ONE IS TALKIN ABOUT THE TREBUCHET CHICKEN

[@Griff_Gaming]

This isn't Skyrim, killing chickens isn't illegal! Lmao

[@Hung-Ly]

@@Griff_Gaming I know but requires immense unluckiness of the Chicken or insane accuracy of the Trebuchet

[@terrorbilly3367]

sir hanush can equip you quite well , winning tourneys gives you pieces of a pretty good armor, doing waldesians quest he can give you a decent longsword st.michael's sword if i'm not mistaken

[@Griff_Gaming]

Yeah, I decided to NOT use Lords of Leipa pieces just bc I felt that would take some of the challenge out of the run but St Michael's Sword I used throughout most of the playthrough. He also give Magdeburg Cuirass after Robber Baron so used that too!

[@akshsehgal998]

Awesome video

[@Griff_Gaming]

Thank you!

[@akshsehgal998]

@@Griff_Gaming what was tbe background music you used it sounded so good

[@Griff_Gaming]

There was a quite a few throughout the vid, all royalty free non copyright stuff I found. If there's a specific song you're after shoot me the timestamp

[@akshsehgal998]

@@Griff_Gaming from 9:39 to 12:12

[@Griff_Gaming]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/qYWyep-pidqXhqcsi=G2oVu84gXKvILS10

[@sandorfalusi3486]

1:16 I hope you also play on hardcore with all negative perks. To be honest I would agree with most of these, except for the maintenance. If I would play this I would also allow to loot the bandit and Cuman camps, but only ones that I go after in quests. Before watching the video, I wonder if you would make good use of archery to make close quarters combat manageable with the weaker gear.

[@flamethagod5205]

Towards the end of the game fayfar gives you an italian bacinet for helping him, but you have to loot it from his chest at the camp to get it. I think that should be acceptable, only looting if its a reward you have to grab yourself, or looting something off an enemy if its a quest reward also cause its not normal looting. You have to loot to complete certain quests so you should be able to loot for rewards as well.

[@Griff_Gaming]

There was a couple instances I thought about it. Like after Vranik Bernard gives you access to armory to get a new set of armor. At that point though I preferred the armor I had. In hardcore mode the closed face helmets only give 8 or 9 more protection that the bell shaped kettle hat I had but between the limited vision and stamina hit from the Clausterphobia debuff I try to avoid it when I can

[@nguyentrananhnguyen7900]

30:20 you can also dodge the strike instead of just blocking it, fixing those amour cost a lot

[@Griff_Gaming]

For sure!

[@Duranous.]

The worst part I think would be riding around on pebbles slow ass forever. The first thing that comes to mind for gear is winning the tourny but it could be bad if you are not able to repair things.

[@shohamgate8322]

hey there, i played this game for about 1500 hours, about the cumans at skallitz (before getting shot in the leg), you can grab your horse, when you whistle at that point for a horse, you "own" a horse, so it's not stealing, you even have the ability to loot it or put items in it's saddle, which means it's not a stolen horse, and use it to ram them off. i've beaten that first cuman like once or twice fairly out of dozens atmepts, even than, it required luck, and potion afterwards. an other method of killing the cumans there, which nowadays i kill like 20 cumans at that point, is by running into them using the horse. the problem with black peter: before womans lot dlc (i believe it was patch 1.9.2) battle mechanics were very very good, after patch 1.9.3, they added bugs and new mechanics which makes peter a problem. the bug is that when the npc tries to do the combo blunt strike with a short weapon, we can't master strike the stab.(the first hit) surprise surprise, it becomes a problem with a poisond short sword.... also, black peter from time to time glitches and becomes immune to melee weapons dmg. which sucks, i showed on stream how i fight him for 30 minutes the main problem with how you fight black peter is that you use slashes with the sword you have, the answer is face stab. he has an open helmet, just stab and pull the cursor up while you're at it after a master strike, it will crush him.

[@noodle7897]

I think if you have the marigold decocion effect before getting poisoned the posion lasts only like 15-20 seconds which would help alot

[@lol-hy4mk]

If you don't talk to Karl, you can take the items directly from the chest while they are sleeping

[@Griff_Gaming]

Still have to lockpick the chest. Breaks the rules either way

[@krystofcisar469]

Not drinking with Godwine is a sin against both God and humanity :D but i respect your need for achievemnt and content and we probably all seen that scene andits awesome :D

[@Griff_Gaming]

Eventually on one of my challenge runs I'll for sure do it haha

[@wombat4191]

16:09 Taking the bloody hoof pick was also already bending the rules this way. But IMO quest items can definitely be exempted from the rules in this kind of challenge. The hoof pick is not actually necessary in any way, as I noticed in a 0 crime stat run that I'm doing. Not taking it actually leads to a bit of alternative dialogue that most players probably haven't seen.

[@Griff_Gaming]

I had made the exception for quest items. Hoofpick, the bandit ears, and the dice from the Vranik bandits were all kinda bending the rules in a way

[@gudretro35]

Subscribed!

[@Griff_Gaming]

Thank you!

[@Death2cesar]

I beat black petr and literally rode the horse all the way to the apothecary and literally opened the dialogue with the trader at like 3 hp or sum crazy like that

[@Griff_Gaming]

Nice! Better than me! I couldn't afford to even heal at the bathhouse

[@Bulldog-ee9dr]

For the monestary rite if you take the trunk key off of ulrich after he dies you can just not talk to the person about to get in and find it in the trunk, at least that’s what happens for me

[@Griff_Gaming]

You are right and that is the same trunk BUT I would have still broken my "taking anything that isn't mine" stealing rule. It's unfortunate it was sorta forced in this quest

[@Bulldog-ee9dr]

@ that makes sense

[@robmiro9170]

Try this challenge on hardcore with all negative perks. If that is not enough try to rebuild pribislavitz.

[@Griff_Gaming]

This was on hardcore with all 9 negative perks....

[@robmiro9170]

@@Griff_Gaming sorry for my stupidity and for skipping intro...

[@PaleGhost69]

You don't have to pickpocket the writ. You have to talk to the guy without the guardian there.

[@Griff_Gaming]

Yes you do. You talk to him without the guardian there and he asks you to get the writ

[@PaleGhost69]

@Griff_Gaming Weird. I could swear there was a good way to do it. My memory could be wrong. I haven't done it the correct way since my goody two shoes playthrough, though. I'll never join the monastery again.

[@Griff_Gaming]

🤣 I usually don't join either! This last challenge run I did as an NPC has to be the funniest way I think I've done it. But yeah I got the guardian drunk to talk to him alone and he told me to steal the writ for myself and his coin purse so he could flee. Other option is to steal it from the chest before talking to either of them but that requires lockpicking the chest so I'd have broken the "rules" either way unfortunately

[@vakknight]

i would consider fighting an unarmed man with a weapon dishonorable

[@joecobb7153]

even if he was attacking you?

[@Pacu89]

You had plenty of time to run to the bathhouse and use the doctor there to heal up after the black Peter fight

[@Griff_Gaming]

Couldn't afford it. 20 groschen minimum to heal at bathhouse. Had 15 groschen and wasn't allowed to haggle

[@Korelie]

I was able to steal the monastery document from the chest before talking to them

[@Griff_Gaming]

My goal was to try to get it without "stealing". Even if it's before talking to them it required lockpicking which I was trying to avoid, but ultimately failed 😑

[@Korelie]

@@Griff_Gaming but sir, you can't steal what's already yours 🫡

[@Griff_Gaming]

True enough

[@AleksiJoensuu]

I kept Kuno alive through the whole DLC - but of course he and one of the brothers got a bleeding wound in the final fight. Quest and DLC completed fine, they rode off and then promptly fell off their horses, dead on the road 😂

[@Griff_Gaming]

😂😂 at least you got the full credit for completing the DLC, but that is pretty funny that he made it through 4 seperate battles and died due to a lack of a bandage. I wish there was a mod that reworked the AI in the game (kind of like skyrim has) that would allow NPCs to actually use inventory items. Like healing potions, apply poison to their weapons, buffs, etc. Most of the ones I've tried to mod into my game either don't work with current patches or stopped getting support in 2019

[@AleksiJoensuu]

@@Griff_Gaming If they would have even told me I'd have given them a bandage and a marigold potion but noooo. They just took off and then popped off. :D Many in game weeks later the horses were still standing in the middle of the path.

[@Griff_Gaming]

@AleksiJoensuu I basically expect either Bernard's or Radzigs horse to become a permanent fixture of Neuhof in my Playthroughs bc for some reason they always dismount them around there and the horse will stay there forever lol

[@goatslayer3160]

I got poisoned by Peter once. Sleeping helped me live long enough to outlast it lol.

[@Griff_Gaming]

Pretty sure sleeping doesn't counter the poison damage. Maybe with a marigold as well but you heal less per hour in hardcore mode so I'm not sure in this case if it would have worked....maybe

[@Coldyham]

@@Griff_Gaming I think I managed to heal out of it by stumbling to the baths and paying for bath, launder and heal

[@Rabijeel]

Yes, you can. And its "Difficulty" depends on if you are allowed to consider "Treasuere Maps" a "Quest" or not.

[@Griff_Gaming]

No, I consider them loot and looting isn't allowed

[@loran101]

Black peter would have been a non issue if you knew you could run to the baths and heal there :)

[@Griff_Gaming]

I knew. I had 15 groschen. Takes at least 20 groschen to heal at the baths and I wasn't allowed to haggle

[@TrialBySquire]

Not to blow up your comments section, but... For the monastery - if you think it's more honorable you can skip getting the letter and instead break in and kill pious. I don't think you'd be able to fight him (you could try) so likely it'd be a stab in his sleep. Not 100% honorable but you'd at least be killing a criminal instead of stealing from an innocent and pretending to be someone you're not. Radzig has no authority within the monastery itself so it's almost a loophole?

[@Griff_Gaming]

So in a bit of a behind the scenes moment, I tried that. I didn't have enough lockpicking to break in anywhere so I went to the top of the scaffolding and jumped in. But my stealth was so low not being used it woke all the other monks up so I got a jail sentence. Had no way of training stealth within my rule set so I was kinda stuck

[@TrialBySquire]

@@Griff_Gaming oof. Sounds rough. Creative solution, too bad it didn't work out. Did you have 0 noise stat and that still wasn't enough to get passed sleeping monks? I had lots of stealth and had already been sleeping in the monastery basement when in town. I tried a few ways with save scumming. What I settled on was a bow shot to the head and run back to basement. I waited a few minutes and then stealthed back up to get the dice. Managed to get the dice undetected and without a reputation loss.

[@Griff_Gaming]

@maihck yeah even with zero noise, they sleep so close together they woke up when I broke his neck (stealth needs to be at 5 to stab him)

[@TrialBySquire]

@@Griff_Gaming ah. Yeah even with 13 stealth I couldn't stab him without people waking. I even tried to do a knockout thinking I would carry the body away before finishing. Didn't work out. That's when I decided to bow kill and run. Everyone woke and guards came but they settled in after a few moments and lowered their aggression. I was able to run back up to get the dice. One guard was complaining about the undertaker talking too long while I looted the dice and bolted. That was with 17vis/20cons though. In your shoes you might be able to get up to get the dice while they are yelling at you about trespassing . You may escape but I'm sure your rep would've suffered.

[@TrialBySquire]

Anyway, I feel I've taken enough of your time. I enjoyed the video and I'll catch you in the next one.

[@lol-hy4mk]

Tfw no punching cows for several hours

[@Griff_Gaming]

Not this time 😔

[@johndaybreak1317]

Okay so after my hardcore achivement run, i need to do this 😂

[@Griff_Gaming]

It was a lot of fun! Especially since usually I have more money than I know what to do with this made me almost prioritize what to spend my money on

[@TrialBySquire]

I'm still trying to cook up the rules for my next run but I do want to complete a full perk hardcore. Most I've done is 4 perks. I'm tempted to RP Henry as a lawful alchemist. Being able to sell herbs and potions for money. Bow, wood bludgeon, and dagger, no shield. No crime or looting (rip cuman bow) except when required by my liege lord. Probably some sort of armor restriction but I'm not sure how far to go. Open to tweaks/suggestions.

[@Griff_Gaming]

If you're gonna go for a stealth archer approach something light and dark. No chain mail or plate armor so you can be nimble and keep space between opponents. Makes fighting groups hard though, getting surrounded would pretty much be a death sentence but it would certainly make things interesting

[@harryfurphy1491]

11:19 black peter was a cake walk for me. course i was turtled up in full plate and maxed out sword and mace skills but he wasn't that tough.

[@Griff_Gaming]

Honestly he usually isn't for me either. Not really sure why he was such a pain in the a** this time around lol

[@B1gDaddyAce]

I’d like to see a hardcore with all negative perk run DEATHLESS. I think it’s impossible

[@Griff_Gaming]

I mean that's what I started this channel with is a let's play of that

[@B1gDaddyAce]

@@Griff_Gaming aaaaahhhh I see, the title just says hardcore run so I didn’t know you had a no death rule. I’ll check it out!

[@醒悟世道]

對付競技輸掉報復的黑傑克，就轉身往家跑，跑到叔叔給你鏟子的拖車，跳上去！然後….. 用箭慢慢射😢

[@Griff_Gaming]

There's a few ways to do it. Across this playthrough I was trying to avoid glitching the game out by abusing game mechanics such as fighting from carts or getting on rooftops

[@maggi98mw]

Do you not consider the Leipa-Set a quest reward? I thought that was the logical way to do this, not cheesy at all. Would only be cheesy if you used the 'wait for the next tournament' option, but when the tourney comes up naturally it's fair game, even the honourable thing to do, wearing the armor that represents your host. I would even say buying armor instead of using this quest reward goes against the spirit of the challenge. Was a fun video tho :)

[@Griff_Gaming]

I do but I thought it might make it a bit too easy. The tourney was a little too easy to win and getting the second best set of gear in the game behind the Zoul set just would have trivialize the challenge I feel like

[@maggi98mw]

@@Griff_Gaming While i understand that take, you only get the armor piece by piece, i feel this would be a nice pace of progression. Then again, i have no idea how many in-game days this challenge took

[@Griff_Gaming]

@maggi98mw this one was a longer challenge (about 65 hours of recordings) but even then I think I ran through the tourney only about 3 times so I wouldn't have gotten all the pieces even if I did use them

[@paladinsteele]

Im on my first playthrough, and when i fought Black Peter, it was a cakewalk. He hit me once or twice without poisoning me and for some reason I staggered him really bad and was able to wail on the motherfucker.

[@Griff_Gaming]

Yeah, it's a bit hit and miss. This one just went particularly poorly lol

[@slipperyfish7560]

I actually didn't know Reeky isn't always half-dead when you find him, I guess it took me too long to find him?

[@Griff_Gaming]

I think it's 3 days from the time the quest starts. If you find him prior to 3 days he will be alive and well. After 3 days he is half dead unless you kill those bandits

[@slipperyfish7560]

@@Griff_Gaming oh interesting, I was far too busy with all the side quests you get at the start of the game

[@Griff_Gaming]

@slipperyfish7560 it's easy to get side tracked lol

[@M-Rayan]

Nice video

[@HunterAnsorge-ok9jk]

"This line gets a little blurry" no shit, really? I thought it only applied to plowing Lady Stephanie

[@Griff_Gaming]

No whole lot more moral decisions to ponder

[@Urban_Lab369]

try to do a only bow, no hit and no cheese spots :)

[@Griff_Gaming]

Might be on the horizon!

[@garushkahn5857]

my whole armor set was from the tunier ^^ even my weapons. i won them, i show them xD

[@AnAverageGoblin]

I didn't even know this game existed

[@Griff_Gaming]

It's a lot of fun. Has its quirks like any game but def recommend checking it out! Open world, RPG and a focus on realism. One of my favorites for sure

[@AnAverageGoblin]

@@Griff_GamingOh nice. looks like if someone took Mount and Blade and threw it at a Bethesda project xD.

[@Griff_Gaming]

Honestly not a bad way to describe it at all! Plus it's got a great story!

[@nguyenngocanh4622]

Can u make a guide on how to beat pribitslavitz bandit camp with least troop ?

[@havalon963]

Well made Video 🤣😄

[@Griff_Gaming]

Thank you! Glad you liked it!

[@theoutsiderjess1869]

Where did you finds Hans capon I cant find him and i want to do his quest

[@Griff_Gaming]

He should be at Pirkstein Castle first door on the right after you complete Ginger in a Pickle

[@neededaname4157]

How is winning armor in a contest of strenght cheesing? If you legitimately won the armor then its fine.

[@Griff_Gaming]

I only said that because you can technically just win the tourney, pay to wait for the next one and do this 5 times in a row and have one of the best suits of armor in the game before even going hunting with Hans. Since this was a challenge run that seemed to me like it would kill the challenge of the run if one hour in, I already have endgame armor

[@neededaname4157]

@@Griff_Gaming I've got to be honest, I didn't think you would reply so quickly. Thank you for the clarification.

[@Griff_Gaming]

You got it! Thank you for watching!

[@paul1320]

Did you get your inventory back after Vranik? I always steal my stuff back before escaping but I'm curious to know what equipment gets given to you if you come back empty handed.

[@Griff_Gaming]

Usually I do but in this challenge I actually put all my good equipment on my horse before going in, put on the low tier stuff I wore towards the beginning of the challenge and when that got taken away I just left it in Vranik and took my good stuff back from the horse. Far as the gear you're given it's mid to high tier from the armory. Milanese brigandine, chainmail, decent pauldrons and chausses but nothing that will blow you away that late in the game but it's better than nothing if all your gear is gone lol

[@peterlemcwilli9203]

If you speak to Stephanie in Talmberk at the Start she gives you 100 Groschen

[@Griff_Gaming]

It's not quite 100, she gives you 20

[@Obsidianoak]

I might try this, I've done a few runs off of who Henry is.... i think i will allow game meat though if it is not marked as stolen ie the Hans quest. Possibly alchemy too, nothing wrong with making healing potions.... just no poisions ect. It would give me a good reason to say no to Pesheck..... so far ive always used him for lock picks Not sure how i would handle the hare quest though. Out the current humtsman that fingered an innocent man/ framed him for murder or side with Nicholas (huntsman) and kill the man trying to clear his name through mischief and blackmail? Personally i think i would side with Hare, knowing what i do, however HENRY only learns all i know if he chooses certain options. Wonder if he would?

[@Griff_Gaming]

Even still I think with the hare quest I think you would need to steal the huntsmans horn so Hanekin can distract him and then either kidnap or lie to his wife to get her over to Hanekin. Part of the reason I didn't do the quest on this playthrough since either side you side with has you doing questionable actions for the greater good. I did the stuff with the food and potions to make it more challenging. Until about the mid game the groschen is so limited to get decent equipment there is a fine balance between what potions are "nice to have" and which are "need to have"

[@Obsidianoak]

@@Griff_Gaming true

[@joja2174]

i dont get it man, why dont you just use the master strike against foes, like all i do is stand still and time my parry thats all it takes to beat even the highest level enemies, ofc its not begginer friendly but still do-able

[@Griff_Gaming]

Most times I do

[@mikoajsobania4465]

Leipa armour is a quest reward

[@Griff_Gaming]

It is, I felt it might be a bit too powerful and trivialize the challenge

[@honkhonk5000]

Despite the jank I still think the combat in this game is a great attempt at something that hadnt really been done before. I hope when the second part of the story comes out they revamp the combat to make it even better than the original.

[@Griff_Gaming]

No absolutely, I do love the combat. These challenge run summaries are meant to be anything I ran into that you might not see on a normal playthrough. That's just something I encountered because my damage output was small at that point and it was a complication to overcome

[@ilayohana3150]

Just sell the shit you get at pesheks and at your own house in skalitz, it's not stealing so it's yours and you can.

[@theoutsiderjess1869]

Going back on your word is technically not honorable

[@Griff_Gaming]

Where did I go back on my word?

[@rauchgranate5648]

Well, befor watching the video I woud say most of the best items in game are quest or treasur chest related. For example the tourny quest for the lipa armor and literaly all good weapons, even the best sword in the game. No lookpicking and looting or stealing is quit the challange thoe.

[@Griff_Gaming]

Yeah technically I could just do the tourney but it just felt too easy to just get one of the best sets just doing that. Also treasure chests is technically looting (not stealing but it's free loot) and most good ones required lockpicking lol this was a super fun challenge though!

[@kingpoxy2289]

I think the dude with the white brigandine is either toths brother or lover i dunno

[@Griff_Gaming]

I was getting lover vibes. Seemed like a touchy subject with both of them

[@kingpoxy2289]

@Griff_Gaming Yeah, I got those vibes a little as well because Toth didn't get scared he got pissed like what you'd do if a lover was captured, not a brother... I know because physiology

[@antimaster6432]

you're not very good at this game but that makes this video even more fun to watch. keep on doing the good content!

[@Griff_Gaming]

Thanks

[@antimaster6432]

@@Griff_Gaming so i watched beating the game with 1 health bar and i retract the comment that you're not very good at the game. you're really good it just didnt seem like it when black peter bullied you for 2 hours

[@Griff_Gaming]

Haha appreciate it. The rule set posed more difficulty than the game did and it was throwing off play style a lot but I guess that's kind of the point of challenge runs. Makes usually mundane or easy parts have their own unique challenges to overcome. In this case it was mid level armor, a crappy sword, and the inability to buy an antidote

[@antimaster6432]

@@Griff_Gaming yeah, my first run in with peter had me chugging marigold potions and turning religious for a brief moment. i'm not sure which one but one of those saved me as i persevered with a sliver of health

[@Beencheeling]

You could have had waited for the all that glisters quest, and gotten master Vittus's curiass which is better than the raider curiass

[@Griff_Gaming]

I never really messed with Vittus' Curiass because everyone usually gave the impression that he was an inferior blacksmith. I'll have to check it out!

[@mobbinmajin4914]

Almost don’t my first play through . Great game but I’m slocked you don’t get a human sidekick . I was waiting and waiting and then found out all you get is the dog.. why lol

[@Griff_Gaming]

Trust me I know! Hopefully something they fix in the sequel

[@waterstarter3106]

viking challenge no armor only axes?

[@Griff_Gaming]

Could be interesting. I have a run I'm editing right now with no armor that should be coming out soon!