Grimdark done RIGHT

[@Kirioth]

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[@TuShan18]

There is one word to properly describe trench crusade art and lore: Gnarly. And I love it. I've been so excited sourcing files to 3d print warbands for the faithful and demonic forces. New Antioch is my favorite, but my first warband is heretical.

[@nofuxgivens2797]

Honestly kinda reminds me of mutant chronicles just set way earlier

[@saulwright4116]

The Japanese in WW2 had polearms with explosives on them, but they were neither popular or effective. Great way to get some cheeky extra order dice in Bolt Action though

[@adinfinitum2704]

Been following Mike for 2 years now. It's an amazing and inspiring setting. Glad it's finally getting attention!

[@SilverSword1]

There is also art by John Blanche, Dave Gallagher, Des Hanley and many other old-school artists! No AI!

[@Dingusmaningus]

The last of the old guard

[@johnhamon4817]

Kirioth. Please for the love of God. Make this a series. Please

[@MatteV2]

About subs, to be fair, the US Civil War did see the usage of submarines, albeit not in a particularly modern context.

[@sorcererberoll4641]

Peddle subs are funny

[@malusignatius]

Napoleon tried his hand at them too, and arguably the first combat sub (the Turtle) was fielded during the American Revolution.

[@Feralhyena]

Thomas and Mike are great guys and are good about encouraging their fans to get into the Hobby. I've never felt more seen by the people that make the things I enjoy. Keep on reading the Lore, it's very good Lore.

[@Lament_the_VVitch]

Tuomas is super active in the discord and honestly it’s been pretty cool getting compliments on my kitbashes from him.

[@Feralhyena]

@@Lament_the_VVitch yeah. So much good work there, and great people to bounce ideas off of.

[@davidk6269]

I absolutely love the aesthetic of Trench Crusade.

[@neem377]

Already making an East Africa Iron Wall force for this. great way for fun w/ places in the world historical niche and scifi ignores. sad note anti-tank spears and regular suicide bombs were a thing especially for smaller less industrial forces in ww2. grimdark is always a mirror of the horrors of our own real world

[@mycatistypingthis5450]

I was not especially interested in demonic ww1 stuff, but it sounds really interesting.

[@acefromspace5843]

Please do more of this format! Love it and interesting lore - though I feel sorry for what the good guys have to face in that setting!

[@infernodelta70]

Welcome to the Trenches Pilgrim. Grab a shovel, and dig in.

[@Adamantios-Alian]

are you shoveling soy?

[@rosspalmer5171]

Wait...Toumas Pironen? As in Mordheim? Fuck yeah.

[@PrincessKushana]

Yep. The rules are as slick as you'd hope. The whole thing is so metal. It's like discovering 40k again for the first time.

[@rasmuslaurila7611]

It's actually Pirinen but exactly that guy.

[@donkratos5627]

ORICHALCUM is the metal that was used in ATLANTIS In 1866 America had “Submarines” during the Civil War

[@mogwaiman6048]

Tuomas Pirinen was one of the Mordheim developers. Trench Crusade has some inspiration from it.

[@isaacatkinson1882]

I am really interested in this setting...cant wait to explore further the subfactions. Would love you to cover this further.

[@samueltitone5683]

I’ve been following Mike Franchina’s art for years. It’s so cool that something’s finally come of it.

[@jaanikaapa6925]

The first submarine that did not rely on human power for propulsion was the French Navy submarine Plongeur, launched in 1863, and equipped with a reciprocating engine using compressed air from 23 tanks at 180 psi (1,200 kPa).

[@k3rmitPL]

I'm willing to learn more about Church's Space Programme

[@TheLordofMetroids]

That will probably lead to an eldritch abomination faction right? Moons haunted kinda thing.

[@ianbyrne465]

@@TheLordofMetroidsThat would be sick. A faction of ambivalent eldritch horrors that threaten both the forces of hell and the fsithful. Hell, maybe get some weird fucked up angelic figures as a fourth faction, who are trying to just wipe the slate clean. Faithful and all

[@redmammoth8759]

I would love to see you do more with trench crusade. Keep up the good work Boss.

[@Tai-Rex]

Always love to see Trench Crusade stuff! I backed the initial Kickstarter and have been fully sold since.

[@Lakefront_Khan]

11:51 Wait........WE HAVE DRACULA!

[@timothorgodofpunder8129]

Well, at least Vlad Tepes Dracula.

[@jaretbradley9869]

I think it’s badass that Joan of Arc drove the zombie plague from Europe

[@KevinHall-n6v]

Awesome work on the video, and so glad to hear you have jumped into the lore. I've seen some of your conversions and can't wait to see what you come up with. Great work on your videos I'm a big fan.

[@malusignatius]

The closest to a functional 'bangstick' apart from improvised weapons is a diving tool called a powerhead. They're basically shotgun cartridges on the end of staff that were used to hunt sharks (amongst other things).

[@fatrhino]

So good.i gotta check this one out in detail.

[@anthonywood5445]

Best video I've seen in a while,game setting sounds so cool!!!!!! Do more!!!!!!

[@idreamofempire1056]

In 1864, late in the American Civil War, the Confederate navy's H. L. Hunley became the first military submarine to sink an enemy vessel Actual history is wild

[@AverageBritishNerd1138]

Unexpected Bill Bailey! A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one. This looks like a fun setting, thanks for doing a video on it Kiri! I do like this style, as having some of the lore/background for this game and other games I might not be aware of is a great way to find some new stuff that's not just a standard Primaris Lieutenant. It's how I discovered Anvil Industry a few years ago.

[@TheLordofMetroids]

This setting looks really cool, would love to see the armies and more lore of the factions.

[@Dunrah]

Really enjoying the new content. I know very little about anything outside of Warhammer so it is really interesting to see what else is out there. Would love to see more of this.

I think this game has SO much potential and fantastic lore, I LOVE the setting and the feel of the world, I do sort of wish they had not set the templar before 1118 since that's when they were founded. That said it is an alternate timeline and I love alternate history, The man in the high castle is one of my favorite books. Just a weird little thing i noticed when overlooking the lore the first time. I am just a big fan of the Templar (mostly in a mythological sense but also their real history is very interesting!) The white cliffs as well is Super cool! This is a game that could easily be played both as a miniature wargame and a theater of the mind TTRPG it seems. I love the look of the miniatures from the artwork as well!

[@Kaiser-in2od]

Yeah dude, it's pretty sick. I'm with you on the Templar date deal. But I feel it could be fixed pretty easily, either way most people probably don't know that anyway, so yeah. I do like the Templars opening Hell since the Catholics said they were in cohorts with Satan and worshipped Baphomet... But yeah. I really hope this game goes somewhere, as I've heard it is running into issues....

@@Kaiser-in2od oh damn I hope it goes somewhere as well and does not fall apart with issues. It looks like a fantastic alternate history setting.

[@verigone2677]

The first submarine was invented in the 1640s, the first modern Sub was launched in Spain in 1864 and Germany began work on Rockets around 1899-1901 but it faltered during the First World War....they did a great job of shifting acutal history slightly to the absurd without being fully unbelievable. Explosive polearms liek those described here or carried by the Atillan Rough Riders were most definitely based on real weapons that were tried in WW1 and WW2

[@NuketheDuke]

That's amazing artwork my goodness!

[@christopherplummer1299]

After years of playing 40K, the past few years I have begun checking out other war games and finding several I enjoy more then the GW games. Thank you for pointing out another game for me to check out that sounds awesome and I might enjoy!

[@voidimperatrix406]

Thank you for doing this Trench Crusade is one of my new favourite things. PS submarines were invented at about the same time in real life, one was used by the confederacy in the American civil war.

[@michaelhowell2326]

Almost all these dates relate to something in our own timeline. It's cool how they put their own spin on the events.

[@mattythefatty6442]

Wooooooo I’m glad to see people starting to get into trench crusade love the concept

[@phantimon6175]

4:57 good question bro, that is called the angel of mercy, it puts wounded soldiers out of their misery on both sides

[@jesterprince4949]

I'm so excited for this game. I've only see the concept art so far but its grabbed me.

[@barbaricboi8905]

Oh yes! I’m so glad a youtuber like Kirioth has acknowledged this beautiful grim battlefield

[@jimi1701a]

Absolutely loved this! Please do more in whatever format u like lol. Trench Crusade is amazing.

[@timothorgodofpunder8129]

Please do more and carry on as you are, I love your conversational style.

[@unintentionally_edgy5867]

“This video is getting flagged, right?” Considering you haven’t seen the stigmatic nuns yet, *yes*

[@gregorygreenwood-nimmo4954]

Trench Crusade does look interesting. I'll keep an eye on its development for sure.

[@ravenniwolvarious8801]

Great video Kirioth, setting seems perfect for you.

[@merci_ann]

Keep it up! I've read through the primer but it's fun going through it together

[@justinskol597]

Absolutely love that you have Birthday Massacre in the background! Great video too!

[@helline9]

When I say that the Sisters of Battle and other Ecclesiastical units should be more extreme, more terrifying, with FAR more religious horror this is what I mean. This like this game is doing! Go bonkers with it. Come on GW, make the Ecclesiarchy as scary as it is revered! -Give us catapults flinging the bodies of heretics on carts pulled by Penitent Engines. -Give us statues surrounded by chanting Priests on carts pulled by Penitent Engines. -Give us wailing chain gangs of prisoners being dragged of by Sisters to be tortured by the church or Inquisition. -Give us Mortifiers covered in curtains of banners, scripture, and icons as a mobile shrine. -Give us named special-character Priests again! -Bring back frothing Imperial Cultists. -Give us Condemer-Heavy bolters (ballista) and Condemner-Bolt pistols. -Have agonising electro-mancatchers as a melee weapon option for squads. -Have heavily armoured Repressors covered in murals depicting the deaths of the 6 founding matriarchs. -Give us war-pulpits as a vehicle upgrade so characters can preach directly from the battlefront! make it all grim-dark!

[@Crushanator1]

That won't happen, GW's average customer is literally a child making purchases with their parents' money.

[@DominikHeinrici-ep4db]

I'd love to see additional Trench Crusade videos. Yes, siree!

[@What2Have4Dinner]

That outro is like an audio jump scare. Definitely want to hear more about trench crusade

[@lordnovas]

Lore & Art is awesome. Now its time to source this project.

[@nickmayne1901]

Reminds me of the start of genesis of the daleks , great video

[@sethlhaynes]

I’ve been SUPER interested in Trench Crusade since I first heard about it. Thank you for doing this, Kirioth! Please keep giving us lore readings as they come out. Also yes, as others have pointed out: the Confederacy have submarines in the American Civil War. One sub, the Hunley, even managed to sink a Union vessel. Crazy, I know. You should look it up! The remains of the Hunley were discovered about 25 years ago.

[@jamenbarker336]

This is GREAT. I have been fascinated by Trench Crusade since I heard about it a few months back. Please make more of this Also I can't wait for him to discover the Shrine Anchorite

[@jamesdo3086]

I super enjoyed this- just listening to you read and explore the lore was great

[@elainegallagher6015]

Fun video, go ahead and do more 😁 I think Trench Crusade is brilliantly over the top, could use some publicity

[@solanoid911]

yup we need more of this XD

[@The_Green_Ghost]

4:55 i don't remember WHERE i read it, but i'm pretty sure that is straight up the grim reaper

[@Nick-yf5mp]

Oh man I recently found Trench Crusade and I'm so excited to start fighting for the Heretic Legions!

[@Feralhyena]

Gonna be real shocked when you learn that the Colonies used submarines in the American Revolution against the British Fleet.

[@Crom_smite_you]

First submarine was built in 1620 in the uk, it was tested in the river Thames.

[@ChaosRampant666]

Lore seems very interesting... I wanna see more

[@dweberod]

Thanks!

[@scruffinmacguffin447]

The rules book has more lore for the units

[@darrenrichardson6146]

Well to be fair, they were starting to develop underwater craft in the late 1700's and the American Civil War made use of some early functional Submersibles IIRC. Heck even Leonardo DaVinci was tinkering with those types of ideas and he was born in 1452 and died in 1519!

[@rocksteadyska6933]

You NEED to do more lad

[@ahranguy4571]

For those who might be interested. I thought I'd leave something here If anyone has an overlapping interested in ttrpgs, and want a little more out of your trench crusade minis or warband, I recommend a rule system called never going home. It's also set in a grimdark WW1 setting and would have interesting crossover between the two. You and your friends all want to make new Antioch warbands? Well, a game of NGH later and your lieutenants now have lovely backstories and some sweet sweet LORE! Just a suggestion

[@chenhan22]

Very cool and I look forward to picking up models when I get a chance.

[@gabrielwalton4097]

I'm so glad you covered this. I'm so in....

[@tylerdouglas480]

Just getting into trench crusade love the whole style of it.either gonna be doing a trench ghost or a black grail warband myself although I gotta finish up my redemtionists for necromunda first

[@arianash7763]

hell yes, more of this please!

[@NP3GA]

I remember seeing this in a Grimdank post throwing mad at Horusgalaxy, feels like I'm seeing more and more it, without even intending.

[@Kodaemon]

16:41 The front fell off. Yeah, that's not very typical, I'd like to make that point. There are a lot of these women going around the world all the time, and very seldom does anything like this happen.

[@XxXtdreaperXxX]

Im down for a part 2 where you read up on the factions or start to at least could also be brought up as a special Ad Ric where you chat to DK and Bricky's forehead about it

[@Xx_AYC_xX]

14:20 the 1860;s are not a completely unrealistic time for submarines to be developed. during the US Civil War the Confederates (rebels) developed designs which later on became the first Ironclad ships, and in in the 1770's American Revolutionaries developed a very early submarine design to float under British ships and drill holes in them, although that was foiled due to British ships being lined with bronze

[@silentpilgrim4132]

Wären Artilleriegranaten nicht übertrieben schwer, würde ich bereits heute eine als von St.Barbara gesegnetes Artefakt als Amulett tragen 😎 Der Look sieht absolut phantastisch aus! Ich will eine Kampfgruppe koptischer Krieger aus Aksum

[@Xx_AYC_xX]

22:52 the Japanese in ww2 had a bomb on a stick that they would use to charge at tanks to blow up, so not a hammer but close enough

[@Xx_AYC_xX]

its called a Shitotsubakurai or Jump mine

[@Just_call_me_Billy]

They did in fact use a hell nuke

[@Jormyyy]

LFFFFGGGGG KIRIOTH HAS DISCOVERED TRENCH CRUSADE 🗣🗣🤘🤘

[@Prophetofthe8thLegion]

5:00 I’d sell my soul for that.

[@massivecrit650]

Please cover more trench crusade! I’m very interested

[@rosskwolfe]

I keep seeing comparisons to 40k, but it seems a lot more like Mutant Chronicles/Doomtrooper.

[@nakenmil]

Maybe, but Mutant Chronicles art has always been more "macho" than this, with burly 80s action hero dudes and so on, imho.

[@rosskwolfe]

@@nakenmil And 40k doesn't?

[@nakenmil]

@@rosskwolfe eh, you're right, maybe the difference isn't as distinct as I remember.

[@WGRevival]

It is metal as all heck. I've been bingeing the lore, taking breaks to listen to Slayer. I'm looking forward to the first KS landing, definitely going on the next.

[@BarokaiRein]

Oh hey the game designer is a finnish bloke. What a fun surprise.

[@mistabrrrly]

100% would love more!

[@JWat-ko1hr]

I lost it at "martyrdom pills".

[@chrisbrown8381]

I for one enjoyed the tentacle pun. Awesome video, hope you have a great day! ALSO! The US Civil War happened around the 1860s and they were messing around with super early versions of submarines supposedly without the help of a demon. Look up CSS Hunley.

[@tedtarrant7375]

LETS FUCKING GOOOOO

[@MasterShaper]

Mate totally here for this!! Hope you decide to do more. Also going to order a vest or two for an upcoming holiday. **Edit intoam was all in dollars so I got that far. Joined the channel instead. Thank you for the hours you have kept me company.** Peace ✌️

[@williamjoyce5057]

MORE TRENCH CRUSADE!!!!!!

[@kai_plays_khomus]

I love that technological progress in Trench Crusade isn't perfectly aligning with things in our timeline - but it's actually not too far off: Sure, a space program in early 20th century sounds extremly weird from our subjective and therefore very limited perspective, but 70 years more or less don't make that much of a difference considering the timescale of a conflict raging for centuries, especially with warfare being the main driving force for technological progress throughout the millennia and increasingly so in recent centuries. Our smartphones, the jets carrying us around the planet for two days of business stay, the fish finder sonar employed by sport fishers, GPS and somewhat reliable weather forecasts, the helis carrying dire cases to the hospitals, the explosive charge engaging your car's airbags, decentralized data networks i.e. _the Internet_ - heck, even cans to conserve food (implemented by the french army under Napoleon many years before it would occur to anybody that a dedicated can opener would be a quite handy tool to have..), it's all derived of military innovation/application. The "modern submarine" thing in fact isn't far off the mark at all: Submarines in the actual sense of a sealed tube sinking when water is taken as ballast and rising when blown out with pressured air, driven by a fuel engine when surfaced which also serves to load the batteries required to drive electrically when submerged (a combustion engine would burn the vital oxygen, that's why its only used at surface level or slightly below so a dedicated snorkel could still take in fresh air to feed the engine's combustion) have been around since the late 1800s and would already be a pretty refined weapon in WW1 so the 1870s in the lore are pretty on point - the progress in submersible/submarine technology has been legitimatly impressive since the _HMS Hunley_ had gone down in history as the first submersible/"submarine" to sink an enemy's ship (and unfortunatly itself in the process, killing the whole crew after it had already done so once before on a test ride - the wreck was only found and salvaged quite recently, extremly fascinating and worth looking up..). There even is one thing I would be absolutly incredulous about if it wasn't evidently the actual case in our timeline and to most people it's such a given nowadays that they don't fully realize what an insane achievement it actually is..: It didn't even take a human lifetime from the first powered flight (shorter and lower than _the dimensions of some modern planes)_ in 1903 to people setting foot on the moon in 1969 when there had been respected scientists as late as 1900 who doubted that powered heavier-than-air flight was even possible in the first place.. 66 years from _"let's try to prove an engine in principle can lift and carry a human"_ to _"hmm, let's see who makes it to the moon and back first"_ - and again the main motivation was not to get technologically left behind in a war of ideologies.. It really does say something about humanity as such I suppose..

[@Kaiser-in2od]

Yeah. I think it's kind of weird that they say bolt action rifles are the main firearm used. They have M.G's, so you'd think in this hellish situation they'd want some semi-autos and smgs maybe? You know, just because they've been going so h.a.m on war for centuries..... You'd think they'd have these things in widespread use.. And I get the whole ammo consumption deal, but I feel that's such a small issue to worry about with so many of the other things going on. Like they're manufacturing bombs 24/7 all across Earth. They could make more bullets ya know.

[@bunnyboi686]

He's discovered it!

[@kglguy]

It looks neat, but as soon as I heard about the giant guns, it made me want a small scale version set in this universe, maybe 10 or 15mm. I'm not sure I'll play another skirmish game.

[@acerock013]

i only just discovered this game and it is WILD.

[@MortenWill]

... Is this the timeline that "Doom: Medieval" takes place in? Because it sounds like the Doomslayer would fit right in

[@willdunn8846]

More TC please!

[@caidecooley7983]

14:25 crazy enough, there were submarines in the 1860’s. They were used in the American civil war.

[@Kaiser-in2od]

Yep. I had a book in elementary school called "civil war submarine" all about it. I think they mean more like u-boats here though. I'm sure you could figure that out though.

[@jamescurtis2112]

Surly Antioc was destroyed by the Holy Handgrenade.

[@achronos178]

This is my favorite WH40K successor.