2027 US Carrier Group vs 2027 UK Carrier Group (Naval Battle 134) | DCS

[@doyoulikefries668]

Cap lost his shit this episode and I'm all here for it!

[@Vsor]

He's coming apart at the seams.

[@svenskdod]

1.5 speed made it even better.

[@TheStormpilgrim]

This was like watching my nephew watching an Alabama football game.

[@odinisgod4577]

ive never seen cap get so excited before it makes me happy to see and proud to be america and better that any other country

[@buster6624]

😅

[@MusingsofaMildManneredMan]

Seriously, the rollercoaster of emotions Cap runs through in this video is enough to give you whiplash. I've not heard a grown man make these noises in such a long time... Great video as always, well done.

[@krisbk21]

I am only slightly annoyed you didnt make uk red team. Give us a little 1776 redcoats vs blue coat throwback!

[@grimreapers]

By the time I realised, the mission was half built and didn;t have enough time to re-make.

[@FunnyQuailMan]

​@@grimreapers Oooh, do you think the British & American ships & planes could be given skins with corresponding red or blue coats, with tri-point hats & Revolutionary War-era garb? Maybe CH could fashion them some powdered wigs?

[@gavin1506]

@@FunnyQuailMan War? it's not a war. It's a policing action. If you do it from 1776 America loses hard. As is proven by American Armada being destroyed by a inferior force.

[@krisbk21]

@@FunnyQuailMan that would be freaking sick!

[@Anarchy_420]

@@grimreapers Here's a standard Red VS Blue! Just so happens to be the Long awaited 3rd rematch! U.S. Carrier Fleet VS Russian Carrier Fleet! Kuznetsov Class Carrier, Air-Air MIG-29KR's with R-77M's, Anti-Ship SU-33M's with Kinzhal's, 5 Gorshkov's, 1 Kirov, and 1 Slava! VS Ford Class Carrier, Air-Air F/A-18F's with AIM-260's, F-35C's with Mako's, 2 Arleigh Burke's, 2 Constellation's, and 2 Ticonderoga's! Please Cap lol I've been making this request in one form or another for years now😅🙏

[@Dimitris_Datseris]

1:39 see this is what I like about this channel, he reads our comments ,pays attention to what we say and explains why he can’t do that, I like him because he doesn’t ignore us. ( I commented if he could give the anti-ship aircraft air to air missiles )

[@grimreapers]

Roger thanks.

[@Anarchy_420]

@@grimreapers you can't use Ticonderoga bc they don't have Tomahawks... come on man😐 lol they're mostly there for defense anyways. Plus* that's kinda like saying, cant use these ships bc NSM doesn't reach/come into play...

[@Anarchy_420]

@@grimreapers you say it's not realistic to use lol I say it's more unrealistic to not use ;) That goes for Slava and Kirov as well*

[@JJ-1-1]

@@Anarchy_420 You obviously have trouble with comprehension, the man said he can't do something it is what is move along and just enjoy the video or not.

[@Anarchy_420]

@@JJ-1-1 you obviously have trouble with being a jerk off. They can do it and are choosing not to! Lmao I'll make any request I like👌👍

[@tomyochum]

Oh man, Cap was in rare form for this one! 11/10 would listen to Cap losing his mind again.

[@XrandomnessX]

It seems like the launch button got stuck for the US fleet for those spear 3s. Hell, they don't even fire that many at the Chinese hypersonics from what I've seen.

[@viaticchart3139]

yeah, .25 kdr seems insane for slow small cheap missiles

[@blueskiestrevor5200]

Why did you give up LRASM? As far as I have read Mako has not even been selected (yet) for full-scale production or use by the US. But LRASM is already operational and they are ramping up production. If you're trying to make an interesting scenario I would have the US equipped with a mix of Mako and LRASM.

[@XrandomnessX]

I'm also curious when we will see the ship launched versions of the LRASMs. Also, maybe seeing the US fleet with the Zumwalt launching its hypersonics could be fun as well.

[@blueskiestrevor5200]

@@XrandomnessX Yeah I don't understand why the Navy is moving so slow with developing VLS launched LRASM. That seems like much better use of money than upgrading old Tomahawks. My personal opinion is that submarine launched LRASM is a complete war winning combination. I would also love to see them integrate the new hypersonic missile for Zumwalt into these simulations. Maybe we just don't have enough info about it yet.

[@user-gv4zb9rc6u]

​@blueskiestrevor5200 the Navy did mention the Zumwolt was being upgraded as of now to get hypersonic missiles if I recall

[@mattseller148]

Because this is set in 2027-2029, the LRASM will most certainly be in service but the HALO program should be coming to completion and Mako is probably very similar to HALO if quite a bit smaller. Giving everyone next-gen weapons but the US would be unfair.

[@blueskiestrevor5200]

@@mattseller148 Are you suggesting that LRASM is not a next-gen weapon? I reject the idea that all future weapons most be hypersonic. I think a group of stealthy, smart missiles with large warheads are just as if not more dangerous than a handful of hypersonic missiles.

[@kensteele8689]

This is the most entertaining video yet! Love your emotional comments.

[@zippyziphead]

Great carrier battle and hilarious commentary.

[@douglascampbell9809]

Fun fact the US Navy is fairly close to equipping it's ships with high energy lasers. It has one on ship for testing right now.

[@chrisvinicombe9947]

So is the UK, interesting times

[@EnglishScripter]

Same with UK.

[@PurpsUK2]

The energy weapons and railguns the US are deep into testing at the moment are both BAE hardware, same with the cool cloaking tech both peeps are testing at the moment (the "invisible" tanks are really worth having a look at)

[@BlackLiger788]

@@PurpsUK2 I would, but they are.... invisible :P

[@dogsnads5634]

@@PurpsUK2 If you're talking about the Adaptiv camouflage it was an experiment from decades ago and went nowhere....

[@exidy-yt]

Holy snappin' what a battle! The UK has really punched above it's weight in all of these carrier battlegroup fights so far, and to actually take out a US carrier (albiet at the cost of the entire task force minus 1 beat up destroyer) was DAMN impressive, especially as it was an almost literal strike from the grave. GREAT fun to both watch and listen to. Hope there's still more to come!

[@Wyomingchief]

Actually they lost that entire fleet because there was still at least one more if not two more flights of makos coming in.

[@exidy-yt]

@@Wyomingchief True. A total wipe then. Still an impressive and expensive scrappy fight against the world's most powerful navy.

[@STURYANPHUAYEWLIANG]

@@exidy-yt Supercarrier shouldent have died, US wasted all their best SAMs on crappy 500 knot missiles, but still very impressive for britan.

[@paulefc1971]

​@@STURYANPHUAYEWLIANGWould also argue that the UK wasted most of their Asters on Tomahawks

[@regarded9702]

Hi Cap, I have a slight complaint which is that it is somewhat unrealistic to have 4 type 45s in the same place at once. Having 4 at sea at once is already pushing it, and we would likely need to spread them out to protect some of our other ships as well. For reference, currently the most we have ever had in one place was 3 for a photo shoot, and that was a decade ago.

[@EnglishScripter]

Britain vs France? Would also be nice to see some stuff from the Japanese or the germans?

[@totalNERD-eo7wx]

They already did UK vs France, and as much as it pains my half-French heart the UK got that one in the bag. Unless France has FCAS, they just cannot compete with the F-35B

[@totalNERD-eo7wx]

However, keep your eyes on CurrentHill, because he's got some German assets cooking up... Admiral189 also has got some Pasta on the grill too... As far as Japan is concerned they are mostly the same as the US.

[@EnglishScripter]

@@totalNERD-eo7wx Yeah but they were quite scuffed I would like to see the new and improved systems used. Maybe even the new french destroyer the ronarch, i think its called?

[@totalNERD-eo7wx]

@@EnglishScripter Still, I don't think it would be much different. I just looked up the specs for the Ronarc'h, and it isn't _that_ much different from a FREMM, although there could be any number of differences on the inside... A video that I would kind of want to see, though, is the UK and France together vs something else, like the entire Northern Fleet + MiG-31s and S-400s or something.

[@EnglishScripter]

@@totalNERD-eo7wx The northern fleet is mostly submarines though, and older destroyers.

[@Ishawn.Ramaaj]

I would love to see the US with a mix of mako and LRASM, maybe half the super hornets have mako and the other half LRASM

[@user13342]

Hey Cap! Hope you are feeling well at the moment! Id love to see this battle take place with 2-3 escorts instead, sort of like out on normal patrol, then qll out war breaks out, reduced air wings ext. ❤

[@grimreapers]

After this I'm thinking of doing a realistic verions with more realistic setups and distances etc.

[@Doodelz02]

​@grimreapers Simply a brilliant fight with commentary to match! I too voice an opinion 'not to leave gear off the table' even when the other side can't match it ... & even if it mitigates entertainment a bit. It's why the gods created fast-forwarding after all! 😛 Even if only the occasional battle now and again.

[@Wyomingchief]

Well if you're going to do that then the British don't and won't have that many f-35s because they've got a split what they're getting between two carriers. And the Americans are still going to outnumber them in escorts

[@stephenefritz]

Great narration today. The energy and excitement of the Upper Class Twit of the Year competition.

[@AxlePlaysGames]

If UK had used Sea Ceptor instead of Aster to defend the MSTs, I think it would have been a draw overall as both sides would have had very good defences for what they are facing

[@EnglishScripter]

if UK was actually competent in this they could have beaten US, F-35's should have flown higher, they should not have used all there asters on easy targets.

[@ARandomCustodian]

Whenever I see the Abbreviation MST I just think of Mystical Space Typhoon from my good ol' young'un Yugioh days before responsibilities, good times.

[@AxlePlaysGames]

@@EnglishScripterYep, just finished the video and my god if we had played better we would have won! Spear 3 overwhelm strategy is the only time I can remember USA running out of missiles

[@chrisk_nfl4120]

@@ARandomCustodian Grade A reference

[@chrisk_nfl4120]

Honestly, I think the UK has a chance of at least only losing one or two ships if they simply use Sea Ceptor over ASTER 30. They were a lot of Makos tho. Also kinda wish Cap gave the UK more CAP to take on the anti-shippers, and made the SPEAR 3 squadron of F35Bs beast mode (up to 12 SPEAR 3s each). They were never really detected apart from a couple, and still sapped all the US SAMs

[@leepatterson5710]

I think the Meteor is benefiting from the AI not continuing to notch, they notch and then turn back around allowing the slow missile to reacquire or get the next one in the line. If it was human or they weren't in a perfect line it probably wouldn't do so well.

[@badgermead8228]

America: Stay down your done! Britain: i didnt hear no fkin bell!

[@Wyomingchief]

Yeah except cap cut the video before that last British ship was destroyed. There was still another flight of makos coming

[@chrisk_nfl4120]

As a Brit, this hurt but was massively fun. Super good the US are allies! Britain have a really nice little future carrier group, especially that SPEAR 3. Can only imagine how good it'll be IF the UK retrofits the QE/PoW to have catapults

[@EnglishScripter]

I thought it went quite well, we sunk the most powerful nation on earths carrier...

[@andrewbogard2411]

​@EnglishScripter you all put up a darn good show especially with the several layered defense that we (the us) have built in our destroyers

[@EnglishScripter]

@@andrewbogard2411 Yeah shows how powerful our new weapons are, also if the AI was not on the US side, we could have done better.

[@chrisk_nfl4120]

@@EnglishScripter oh yeah, but we lost an entire carrier group. In fairness, China and Russia haven't come close historically in these big GR battles

[@chrisk_nfl4120]

@@andrewbogard2411 I think the UK still has some ways to go but the Royal Navy may be fine for decades. But it must be mentioned the SPEAR 5 anti-ship is still a long term thing (2030), it'll likely be Tomahawk. Which may still work with the UK's strategy of SAM wasting and big meaty strike when they're out of SAMs ( 1 SQ of SPEAR 3s & Tomahawks, 1 SQ of Storm Shadow/Harpoons/NSM)

[@therealbettyswollocks]

Cap melting down was worth it for this blue on blue escapade. Lucky for both sides we are allies... for now anyway.

[@user-gv4zb9rc6u]

Big question I have: Is there a reason both CWIS and SERAM self defense units never fire on the carriers, like the US Nimitz?

[@benjaminarnold2881]

Question for everyone, would Peregrines be a better anti-stealth load-out than aim-260’s?

[@WendussyDynamics]

One of the most entertaining to date. To borrow your parlance: Riveting!

[@miisterE123]

I assume the US carrying only 54 Aircraft falls under the "fun" category as the 64-72 (yes I know theoretically up to 90ish) that both the Nimitz and Ford classes can carry would just mean the US out lasts the Brits as they have double the fighters and anti-shippers? If I remember right isn't that more of how the 2025 US vs UK went which had more US aircraft.

[@Wyomingchief]

Well the problem is you're not including the ew aircraft the Greyhounds and tanker playing so that's actually about right

[@tryannosaur]

American carrier groups actually only have 48 strike aircraft on board, with the rest being support aircraft so 54 is actually more than would be usually found.

[@viaticchart3139]

@@tryannosaur and theLiz would have a war time wing of only 24 F-35B. the 36 is at surge which would then bring the Ford up to 60-72 combat aircraft

[@arakami8547]

​@viaticchart3139 24 is peacetime for Atlantic operations. She's also limited to that by the currently inadequate size of Britains F-35B fleet. She can accommodate 36 fighters comfortably, along with all her helicopters. Space for 20 fighters in the hangar comfortably, space for 8 by her starboard rear, and an additional 8 by her bow and central elevator. Additional parks by and between her islands for her full complement of Merlins and Wildcats too. That leaves her entire port side unused, which could otherwise line up 16 odd fighters at the cost of vertical landing spaces. With 40 aircraft she'll still have her runway clear, and about 6 vertical landing spots for helos and jets too. Affording similar reserve space for a Nimitz, with her take off and landing spaces clear, she can and often does manage about 48-54 fighters plus her other aircraft types. Thats 4 squadrons of 12, plus a flight for CAP. That includes also, 4-6 large E2Ds, 2 large C2 Greyhounds for COD, 4-6 Growlers for EW, and 6-8 Seahawks.

[@jamison884]

Hey Cap. Do you have the Tacview recorded for this battle? I was genuinely hoping someone from GR may be able to do a quick rewind of this and see what drained all the US SAMs so well? During the UK vs. China video (I believe), it appears as if UK was missing a lot of offensive capability. And now in this video, UK was able to absolutely drain all of the US SAMs and I'm having trouble tracking what caused that. Not saying it's unlikely/impossible, just curious as to what the general strategy was (for example, like the previous UK video where they were firing too many (3) missiles per incoming threat). Thanks Cap! Good to be on the same team, and wouldn't want to fight either of those forces!

[@jamison884]

Yeah, the DCS issue where it's firing too many SAMs at each incoming ASM must be the issue. I know we discussed this already and I understand it's a DCS core issue that can't be fixed via mod at present, and I'm not blaming you etc. - merely pointing out what I'm able to observe. This isn't a US vs. UK issue either, as I know we've observed the same issue with the UK firing too many SAMs per incoming threat. It shouldn't take just 160 enemy ASMs to use up all 540 US CSG SAMs. If we used those numbers as an example, the whole Red Sea defense force would have gone through all of their VLS cells already hah. Actually, the Red Sea scenario, although different as it isn't ASM coming at the actual CSG itself in most cases, and rather mostly incoming munitions toward distant civilian tankers, it is one of the more useful encounters to study.

[@sandevee439]

@@jamison884 Seems to have something to do with the percived threat of the spear3, usually more difficult targets are targeted by more missiles, but here each spear3 was getting 4 missiles shot at it despite being a relatively easy missile to intercept.

[@jamison884]

@@sandevee439 Yes, good observation, thank you. I believe I counted around 40 SM-2 missiles going towards the SPEAR3 launch from just two F-35B's.

[@Wyomingchief]

​@@sandevee439the whole problem with the anti-air missiles, whether it be the sm-3 or sm-6 or the British ones, is all because of the DCS core model. There's really nothing you can do at this time. Again people forget that this is a flight simulator not a naval simulator and the naval assets are just a bonus

[@tryannosaur]

I think this can be equalised out, though. The British were also firing unnecessarily large amounts of their most advanced interceptors at even the Tomahawks, leaving very little left to intercept the Makos that were inbound. The US had 144 Tomahawks and 144 Makos available to fire. That's 288 AShM that the UK would theoretically have to deal with at a maximum. The UK on the other hand had 192 Aster 30s and 192 Sea Ceptors, so already this is more than enough to handle the number of AShMs that the US can theoretically fire, especially once you consider that there would not be a need to double up interceptors on something as primitive as a Tomahawk where a single Sea Ceptor would be sufficient.

[@tyronejackson002]

The us ships ciws preform badly compared to other countries I noticed... The carrier has ram, essm and phalanx but rarely intercept anything.... great video

[@michaelritzen8138]

Hey Cap, I was wondering why we never see defensive fire coming from the Carriers? The USS Gerald R. Ford should have ESSM and RAM launchers, with CIWS and 25mm guns to help and the Queen Liz should have 30mm bushmasters and CIWS. Is there a technical reason I have missed? I reckon extra air defense, especially ESSM and RAMs would help the US in several of your scenarios.

[@BrianPost--ni6qs7yc4w]

From all of these I've seen, what a come back!!!

[@LEH-fl8ws]

It seems as though Britain and America have had the most effective offence so far, what with the American MST/Mako combo and the British Spear 3/Spear 5. Not what I expected, and a very big departure for the NSMs of the previous series.

[@grimreapers]

The thing that surprised me is the effectiveness of the relatively cheap and low tech SPEAR 3 paired with F-35.

[@EnglishScripter]

@@grimreapers You should use Spear 3 EW, it can jam and acts as decoys, the spears 3 would then get too close for them to all be shot down.

[@LEH-fl8ws]

@@grimreapers Yeah, it's really effective at draining SAMs and clearing a path for the Spear 5s.

[@mburland]

Brilliant episode! Be cheeky and try a rematch but USMC+RN vs USN?

[@rstang281]

very entertaining, hats off to you Cap!

[@f104starfight3r]

Freakin' Awesome Entertainment

[@Cencrd]

I have criticism of the viewer feedback: We've seen success in damaging enemy vessels when there is a saturation of the enemy's countermeasures with large numbers of missiles or through attrition and the enemy running out of effective countermeasures. We've seen repeatedly that all of the carrier groups are capable of shooting down missiles when they arrive in few numbers. If the Chinese were to use their 600 mi range missiles, at 600 mi, there'd only be a few missile able to reach the opposing carrier group and they'd be shot down. Then the fleets would have to close the distance to utilize the rest of their weaponry (Shorter range Ashp Missiles, and Ashp Planes). To Cap's point, it'd be boring to watch a handful of missiles fly 600 mi, which he'd likely cut down for time, get destroyed by countermeasures, rinse and repeat until they exhaust their supply, then have the ships close the distance, which he'd also cut down for time.

[@grantgates2931]

Best one by far Great commentary.

[@Four9sFineJewelry]

Next you gotta do Russia v Chyna.

[@grimreapers]

Yup

[@blademaster2390]

The Brits may have pulled a draw out of nowhere, but note that they dont have a carrier or its escorts anymore. The US still have another 10 carriers, and I’m pretty sure we’ve got a new one set to launch this year. Still, great fight they put up. Im glad they’re on our side.

[@idle_betazoid1990]

Brilliant well done Cap

[@onlythatonetime]

You could almost create this commentary by grabbing the most excited snippets from other GR vids. Also, I sense that Cap may be sliiiightly partisan 😂

[@skatman3278]

Not sure it's over modelling of the AIM260, but the Meteor is way underpowered. It was about right but then you reduced its capability because people were saying it was "too good". Even using the Wikipedia article it says "over Mach 4" and "110nmi+" so why it'd modelled so that it struggled to hit Mach 4, I don't know.

[@Mobius118]

Likely because it's been fired low down, when fired in optimal parameters (high and fast) it will absolutely hit those figures or get close to it from what I recall from past vids. I could be wrong on that, but I do know for sure that the altitude and speed of the launching jets is playing a major factor in the speed the Meteors can reach, considering their propulsion system

[@skatman3278]

@@Mobius118 yeah, but the issue is the AIM260 doesn't have the same issues. I understand lower launch altitude will equal lower speed and range, but the Meteor is nerfed to hell when doing this, yet no other missiles are.

[@Wyomingchief]

​@@skatman3278no it's not, the aim 260 when fired down low has a much more powerful booster which gets it up to the altitude. Whereas the meteor doesn't have that strong boost phase but it does have a longer burn phase

[@Wyomingchief]

It doesn't have the same issues because they're different missiles designed to work differently😂

[@johnsilver9338]

AIM-260 also should have a better PK as its the 1st BVRAAM to employ a multi-mode terminal seeker. Either a dual or a tri-mode seeker with active/passive RF and infrared IIR.

[@dalechampagne3098]

Excellent job. Sorry about your lost.

[@allanthomas332]

Good game cap much respect to you for putting the aircraft carrier and fleet battles

[@chrisd2646]

@grimreapers Cap, I am so sorry that you've been having all these health issues and that you needed to pause now and again during this one You were hilarious, though! I love the collaborative videos you do with all your other humans, but you have no problem carrying these videos on your own. Much fun to watch and, even more so, to listen! I do hope you start feeling better soon, though!

[@trev8591]

Ironwinkle - I think he got promoted to Commodore in 2028? Great one, Cap. Hope GR Baby and Mrs GR are doing well. A little Rewenge for sinking all our fleet, I suppose.

[@howiehowdy]

You should probably simulate a pair of growlers by spawning them in the air like with the Hawkeye AEWs.

[@MrBenski81]

Cap, you and your enthusiasm make these videos my friend. Hope you get well soon!

[@josephiousbrosif]

Only Cap can declare it a close fight when his entire fleet is on the sea floor and all their fighter pilots are swimming with the fishies. A little biased there eh Cap haha. Love ya anyways

[@eaches]

... and c'mon Cap. One of the first things they told us in boot camp was "If you ain't cheatin' you ain't tryin'.".

[@danhodson7187]

Was a great battle, I'm glad we're both on the same side! Would love to see these strategies put together having US and UK vs China and Russia. The UK Spear 3 & 5 combo would go lovely with the US Tomahawk & Mako combo! For this one it was a shame the AI crapped out and used up all the precious Asters on the Tomahawks and that the F35's didn't fire the Meteors as well as the AI fires them from the Typhoons. I think that would've made it a much closer battle overall. Probably still a USA win, but closer for sure. Cap, please look after yourself.

[@TheCaptainbeefylog]

People complaining about how the missiles should work etcetera, need to realise the difference between some software made to entertain nerds on a PC that costs a few thousand dollars, versus softaware that runs a missle that costs a few MILLION dollars, is rather significant. One handles dozens of different systems, visualisations, physics and such, all at once. The other runs a missle......makes you wonder how different the scale of coding would be, unless you're completely ignorant.

[@mrnourking]

LOVE THIS GUY

[@jeffknight4706]

Excellent commentary by Cap!

[@darkstar453]

War of 1812 part two

[@anvil5356]

USS Whitehouse got burned down and neither side really won

[@TheIceman567]

@@anvil5356 And so HMS York!

[@Jayfromthe202]

This would be way worse in real life

[@xenaguy01]

Arleigh Burke Class Flight III has 96 VLS cells, Ticonderoga Class has 122 VLS cells. Both can take any mix of: RIM-66M surface-to-air missile, RIM-156 surface-to-air missile, RIM-174A standard ERAM, RIM-161 anti-ballistic missile, RIM-162 ESSM, BGM-109 Tomahawk cruise missile, and RUM-139 vertical launch ASROC.

[@AmirShafeek]

I think his reasoning for keeping the ticos out is kinda dumb if you replace a single Burke with a tico the outcome of this video would be different simply because of the extra vls cells

[@Wyomingchief]

​@@AmirShafeekexactly and to be honest there's no guarantee those ticonderoga's are going to be taken out of service. The Navy has been trying to do that for the past 8 years but Congress keeps telling them know and keep funding their overhaul. So I personally think will still have the Ticonderoga until at least 2030 and at that point they will probably decommission them once we have enough of the new frigates

[@superbudegu]

The ffg-62 is not replacing the ticonderogas. The ship that will replace the ticonderogas is the DDG(X). The DDG(X) will also replace the Arleigh Burke flt.Is and flt.IIs

[@Omni2389]

This Is By Far The Funniest Video I Have Seen.

[@pahtar7189]

I wonder how hard it would be to update the scoreboard with team names like "America (Red)" to make it easier for Cap and the viewers.

[@bobert878]

Your work ethic is nuts cap, hope your voice gets better

[@mr.starks]

What a brain tickle of a video!! Keep em coming!!!

[@elementaleighteight]

Just remember kids, damaging the array would be easier and disrupting communications and targeting techs is far more important. Spoofing with electronic means would easily overwhelm defenses and allow radar damaging munition to lead the way for lrasm.

[@whousley]

One note from the briefing... specifically arming and tasking individual aircraft as air to air or air to ground seems to be more realistic anyway ... case in point, the Grim Reapers uses Strike Eagle air to air all the time, but I seem to recall that in the Iraq war, the only air to air kill by a strike eagle was (you guys simulated it!) a laser guided air to ground weapon used to obliterate a low-hovering helicopter. The pilots have orders that match their munitions and are assigned those orders based on the pilots' skill emphasis.

[@adamtheninjasmith2985]

So something interesting to think about with fast moving missiles trying to engage a fast moving and agile target (like fighters), is that at the terminal phase they will have very little time to make fine adjustments. Both in processing speed and the actual ability to maneuver. A slower moving missile on the other hand has a lot more time to process and potentially maneuver. Of course the missile has to be moving faster than it's target so it doesn't just get outrun but that's pretty obvious.

[@Wyomingchief]

Which means absolutely nothing in DCS because that's not how their modeled.😂

[@jamison884]

Regarding your comment about the US needing a weapon like SPEAR3 - decent range, cheap, and eating up the enemy SAMs. The USN is pursuing exactly that. Within the past few months, there was an announcement for contractors to begin developing the Multi-mission Affordable Capacity Effector (MACE), an affordable cruise missile (~$300k each) that can fit inside the F-35 bay (4-8 of them, similar to SPEAR3) and carried by the F-18, with precision ground and anti-ship strike capabilities, and a goal of initial capability by 2027 and production of 500 per year, and a 75 lb payload. The range is stated as "complimentary to the LRASM" which is a bit of an odd way to describe a requirement. The concept images actually have it looking like a baby LRASM with the same general shape and fold-out wings, so it may have at least some reduced stealth characteristics (a stealthy shape isn't too difficult these days, and perhaps using an older/cheaper stealth coating would be suitable, but that's all speculation). Realistically, the USN also has plenty of Harpoons to use up since since it's now a legacy weapon replaced for all uses - except launching from submarine tubes. The Los Angeles, Seawolf, and Virginia class submarines can all launch Harpoons via their 21" torpedo tubes; I believe they may have taken this out of their doctrine for awhile, but it's now back in their catalog (I may be confusing this with Tomahawk launches from torpedo tubes). Anyway, the point is, there are a lot of Harpoons and its one of the older and less capable weapons now, so I don't believe they would hold off on firing a whole bunch of them if a need presented itself. I also think it would be a tremendous candidate to adapt for use in the Rapid Dragon pallets, or just adding it to the USAF bomber fleet in general (B-52/B-2/B-21). Then of course, there's the MALD, which can be used to eat up the SAMs coming from targetted ships at a relatively low cost, while also providing an abundance of ISR while in-flight to spread to all of the other datalinked weapons involved in the attack. For example, take a group of MALDs spread out strategically within a larger swarm of relatively slow-moving missiles, and have those feed data to a group of stealthy LRASM's and damn that's a scary attack to go up against. In addition, the USAF/US Army/USN are all looking at additional air and surface launched weapons with greater range. One set of programs is looking to increase the lethality of the Apache, which is pretty long overdue. The Hellfire and JAGM simply don't have impressive ranges given the capability of so many other missiles being developed. I think they may need to focus on less missiles per Apache, take weight and size limitations and exchange it for fewer missiles, such as one or two missiles per hardpoint on the Apache stub wings. Combined with the fact the Apache is supposed to go from two to three hardpoints per stub wing, the possibility of 3 to 6 missiles per stub wing with significantly longer ranges looks attractive, in exchange for a missile that can potentially reach 100 to 200 km is within the realm of possibility I believe. That's also subject to the transition from reliance on the direct sensor capability of a loan Apache, and thinking about the sensor capability of all assets in the AO at their disposal (an Apache datalinked to other resources, from satellites to drones and jets within thousands of km around the asset firing the weapon, so an Apache can fire a missile on a specific heading and then the datalinked asset hundreds of KMs away would guide it in to the target when it hits terminal ranges.

[@howiehowdy]

This one was tough to watch because no matter who wins I'm not mclovin it.

[@ArveEriksson]

"PAUSE! I need to compose myself." XD I'll say! Heh!

[@jeremyflanders9088]

Will DCS model Lms systems darpa and the navy are developing?

[@christophero55]

35:36 Cap: "Oh no, we've run out of SAMs." Me hellfire Elmo-ing: "Yes! AhhhHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!" Murica. :D

[@christophero55]

*finishes video* Nooooooo! Damn you British! You sunk our beautiful Freedom carrier!

[@willwozniak2826]

The British still gave it there all to the Americans......Ill say great battle Cap..👉🏻

[@layneanderson9582]

Not sure how the FA-18's with defensive aim-9 go offensive on the British anti-ship F-35's

[@Niveama468]

We've still got a ramp! cracked me up.

[@Mav09]

Video request: F-35A Lightning vs J-20 Mighty Dragon (BVR and Dogfight).

[@astro0one]

You need towed decoys for the fleet and dragon fire not cwis

[@nigelmacbug6678]

UK vs France?

[@Plastikdoom]

Was great, especially cap’s reactions. But just gotta say, we can do that ten more times…and we’re gonna feel $10 billion? I mean we’ll notice, don’t know about feel, the hardest part would be the time to make a new carrier. You do know we’re up to over $900 billion in defense budget…per year, right? I mean ten billion is still a lot, a stupid amount of money, but compared to the budget…that’s a drop in the bucket. Plus all this really did is keep an american ship yard open longer, as now they gotta make a new super carrier. And realistically anyone who sinks our carrier…they are facing WWIII and that country/any Allie’s dumb enough to side with them, will not survive.

[@NemoGraynameA8]

Cap I know a video where China launches 600 mile missles would be borning to watch, but can you spawn in the 600 mile missiles at whatever range they would be detected by the USN then have the two groups go at it after the missles are gone?

[@stealth7g]

Phenylephrine HCl - 10 mg (Nasal Decongestant) everyday and you won't be sick so often.

[@spoork9443]

I’m confused did the carrier not fire its CIWS?

[@pressstart198]

Dude, calm down. The Americans still have 10 OTHER CARRIERS.

[@RevanJ12]

i expect to see the dragon fire laser along with tempest jet for uk soon pleaseeee

[@joshberry4813]

Cap is off his ass on this one! So good

[@jc9457]

Wait, why not include subs?

[@Wyomingchief]

Because this is not a naval simulator. And the submarines that are available in dcs, don't have any offensive power, so there's no reason to include them

[@MrAaronFritz]

Is the choice to not use an E7 Wedgetail because it can't be launched from a carrier? As both sides conceivably will both have E7s by 2029 and the E7 is superior to E2s. A land-launched E7 could in air refuel to service a CSG.

[@Wyomingchief]

No because the wedge tail isn't available in DCS at the moment. The E2 Hawkeye is literally the only reliable asset of that type that works consistently

[@MrAaronFritz]

I thought that, and did a quick google and a wedgetail mod is available. I know it's probably just an aesthetic mod of a E2 with a skin, but with more E7's going into service it would be great to see it in game.

[@johnsilver9338]

For stealth detection, E-2D is undoubtedly better as its in the UHF band. Otherwise E-7 is better.

[@bc3713]

Cap you were as entertaining as the sim haha

[@timthatshim8037]

Luckily the United States has more aircraft carriers than the rest of the world combined😂

[@Dimitris_Datseris]

Why don’t the Americans use the LRASM ?

[@grimreapers]

LRASM just doesn't work very well in DCS, MAKO performs a lot better.

[@Dimitris_Datseris]

@@grimreapers ok

[@stekra3159]

Can one US carryer groope survive against all of Europas carryers 2 Elizerbthers 1 Char De Gaule

[@EnglishScripter]

The US carrier got sunk in this alone.. they would get very much destroyed with 3 carriers vs 1.

[@Wyomingchief]

Well if you're going to do a simulation and like that then, the Americans should have at least two if not three carriers along with many more escorts. So to answer your question if you're going to simulate it properly then know it would be a decisive American victory. Because the only other Navy with a carrier is the French and at this time it's actually in dry dock for the next 6 to 8 months. It's also a much smaller aircraft carrier than even the Queen Elizabeth

[@jcremeringful]

I think Cap needs a nap or 10 after this one!!!

[@FranklinBurns42]

Wouldn’t US fleet defense be F18s?

[@AmvC]

* leave us alone = lass uns in Ruhe!

[@grimreapers]

Danke.

[@HT-Blindleader]

That was a nail biter. Congrats Brits on the draw. So sad that your entire task force was wiped out. Who's going to fight the other 10 carrier groups? UK have some row boats they can bring out for the next round?

[@tryannosaur]

I don’t think anyone honestly expects the UK to take on all 11 carriers. But the fact the UK managed to cripple one carrier group and permanently reduce the US’ power projection capabilities on the whole is more than anyone expected. The US military budget is about 10x larger than the UK’s.

[@HT-Blindleader]

@tryannosaur No, I'm with you on that front. The UK did exceptionally well. I'm impressed and I'm not going to go hater and throw out some milsim nonsense. It was a joke, but America never sends a single carrier group into a near peer confrontation. It's always a minimum of two CG's in those circumstances. I'm just poking at Cap for giggles and I'm sure he had a chuckle at the comment.

[@HT-Blindleader]

@@tryannosaur it was by far the best naval battle we've been treated to. I'd watch it again if Cap just ran it two or three more times without changing a thing in the setup. It was exciting!

[@tryannosaur]

@@HT-Blindleader Yeah, haha. At least the UK can lay claim to a title neither Russia or China can on this channel and that is being able to penetrate through the US’ defences and sink their carrier. I guess it’s a good thing the US and the UK are allies.

[@regarded9702]

I have a feeling this is going to he painful for us (the UK).

[@LEH-fl8ws]

Painful, but a pyrrhic victory for the USN.

[@thegreatlongdingo]

Jenkins!!!😅

[@ronmaximilian6953]

I'm surprised the Americans didn't use the LRASM in the second wave and keep a few super! Hornets for cap. At any rate, it's a good reminder that the US desperately needs laser weapons and the British ships are under armed. Then again, the 5-in guns were never really used. They're not the best weapons, but when you're out of missiles, you're going to want to at least take out some enemy missiles before they get into ciws range

[@Wyomingchief]

LARSM currently isn't working properly in DCS that's why they use the makos because they tend to work better in this flight simulator

[@IetsgoBrandon]

I suppose next should be RU vs CN, right? Looking forward to watching

[@ryabow]

16:05 "An American has gone down! by i don't know where from, or who shot him!" at 15:52, in the upper right, you can see the meteor that reacquires and strikes an approaching American F-35. you can see the strike happen at 15:59 in the background. 25:20 annnnd demonetized :p

[@Kaelland]

America: Handing Ls to the UK since 1776. People from the UK: Yeah, but we sunk your carrier, too! America: We sank 50% of your carrier fleet. You sank 10% of ours. Gonna call that a win on our part still.

[@tryannosaur]

The fact you lost any at all is an L!

[@LEH-fl8ws]

I'm just glad we're allies.

[@andrewbogard2411]

As an American im rooting against the brits in this one lol

[@jim.franklin]

Cap - the Yanks have been a pain in the arse since they objected to a Tea party in Boston Harbour :) Why were the ships not using close in air defence weapons systems - such as Seawhizz, they could have stopped a number of the missiles and the Yanks may not have sunk so many of our ships - also - Submarines?

[@watcherzero5256]

American Pyrrhic victory, didnt expect that!

[@TheIceman567]

Huh?

[@watcherzero5256]

@@TheIceman567 They won but lost their carrier.

[@tampaguy2395]

Smacky Smacky Boom Boom

[@MegaMrWrong]

The commentary was so funny