these guys are spot on! Hopefully Memphis and the Pac 12 come back together and hammer out a deal
@deanfirnatine78142 ай бұрын
They want each other, its all about money for those AAC exit fees that are HUGE and better playoff revenue sharing agreement for playoff money.
@patrickmcdaniel20482 ай бұрын
@deanfirnatine7814 who does the exit fee go to if the AAC dissolves?
@ghmmr12 ай бұрын
Spot on? No. We dont even know what the PAC media deal is yet AND that $25M exit fee? I would rather wait for FSU/Clemson/Miami/UVA/UNC to move and see where we can land. Dont want to be stuck in a G5 when we can get into a P5.
@2018josh2 ай бұрын
After those schools leave Memphis is going to a weak ACC
@Kakasenpi2 ай бұрын
@@2018josh acc will be another pac-12 situation, obv.
@DR700-r4w2 ай бұрын
New Pac12 has 6 top Net 50 schools from last year.
@joeguerra84352 ай бұрын
Gonzaga to the PAC just sweetened the PAC 12 logo marketing brand. I’m still holding out the decision makers will make it to get Memphis to the PAC. Love your guys passion about Memphis.
@DayOneRob2 ай бұрын
SDSU 💪 Let’s go Memphis!! Come on over, with you guys it will be an outstanding conference!
@SurfCityBill2 ай бұрын
Boise State fan here. Let's get a GoFundMe going for Memphis.
@ghmmr12 ай бұрын
No. Most Memphis fans dont want to go to the PAC.
@futurecolemaniii51912 ай бұрын
@@ghmmr1 I think there are mixed feelings, but if the money can be worked out, I think Memphis joins the PAC...and yeah, who doesn't want to be in a Power conference these days considering all the money they are getting...IMHO
@chitowntiger1Ай бұрын
@@ghmmr1 Bullshit
@HMbeav84042 ай бұрын
I’ve really enjoyed your show the last couple weeks. PNW fans (Boise, OrSt, Wazzu, Zags) have all been vouching for Memphis! I think we can still get this done!
@mikefredd33902 ай бұрын
Go Beavs! Welcome Gonzaga?!
@rockerfarm64452 ай бұрын
Zags sounds better xD
@TheOceanMan-xc7qp2 ай бұрын
Memphis call your school and demand you hammer a deal with the PAC 12...this is your chance to move up!!!
@ghmmr12 ай бұрын
Move up? This is a lateral move AT BEST. We dont even know what the PACs media deal is yet.
@futurecolemaniii51912 ай бұрын
I think the PAC needs to stop being cheap and pay Memphis exit fees yesterday...I guarantee you they offered Gonzaga more than 2.5 million...and for basically for just basketball...
@mikem9572 ай бұрын
@@ghmmr1 A conference with Boise State, San Diego State, Washington State, Oregon State and Gonzaga, and still possibly UNLV, is NOT a lateral move. It's a get-out-of-jail (AAC) card. Otherwise Memphis can plot its burial site.
@TheOceanMan-xc7qp2 ай бұрын
@@ghmmr1 sorry bud too much smoke to call it lateral...They want out of that conference and when the money is right they will be gone
@joelamthach5812Ай бұрын
Gary you the man!!! I read your column and you wrote very excellent analysis about Aztecs basketball!!! You are real deal bruh
@deanfirnatine78142 ай бұрын
UPDATE: Bay Area media source is reporting Pac 12 is interested in UCONN football(they are independent) and vice versa and with a side deal as well, the side deal is a long term non conference scheduling deal in hoops where men's and women's UCONN teams play home and away games against top tier Pac 12 programs like Gonzaga and San Diego St for the men and Oregon St and Gonzaga etc for the ladies. This could include neutral site games like UCONN vs Gonzaga at Madison Square Garden in NYC or in Vegas that would draw huge TV audiences, Memphis could be a part of this if they want. In addition rumor is Pac 12 is now in discussions with both the Big 12 and ACC for non conference hoop scheduling. On a side note I read the massive AAC exit fees drop a lot if they get more than 27 months warning, so the Pac 12 could add in Memphis St, Tulane, South Florida etc for 2027 and just plug the 2026 gap with say UCONN and Texas St, for example. If the Pac 12 can take two decent AAC teams it is virtually guaranteed to be rated always the 5th best conference and get that guaranteed playoff spot for the conference champions of the top 5 rated conferences.
@tbx592 ай бұрын
Looking forward to the Aztecs playing Gonzaga 3 times almost every year.
@bobahamster2 ай бұрын
Gonzaga! Welcome to the Pac! Come on Memphis! Tulane! UNLV! Now is the time! Go Beavs!!
@ShaneStruthers-ur3cu2 ай бұрын
UNLV fully committed to the PAC
@OneManArmy1Dm2 ай бұрын
Fresno St Fan Here. Come to the Pac12 we are building some especial :) we gonna compete with everyone!
@exfamily53852 ай бұрын
We love to have Memphis in the PAC12 in the future.
@jsmith1746Ай бұрын
On top of Gonzaga and San Diego State, you have Utah State which has always had a solid program with regular NCAA tournament appearances (a round of 32 team last year) and strong fan support. Boise State has a solid program as well, and Colorado State regularly fields a strong team. The new PAC is an elite basketball conference even without Memphis. Throw the Tigers in to the mix and it will be a top 3 basketball league, and easily the top non-power conference in football.
@cougsjohnson12 ай бұрын
We still want Memphis to change their mind & come. Just call & make a reasonable Counter-Offer. We need Memphis to build our Future Eastern Division of the new Pac. I guess I just can't seem to figure out what Memphis has to lose, to make a 5 minute Counter-Offer on the Fees ❓
@ghmmr12 ай бұрын
What do we have to lose? An ACC invite. 🤦♂️
@TylerSnoen-no1yu2 ай бұрын
Memphis AD said he doesn't have time to make a counter offer! He said he'll listen tho
@mikem9572 ай бұрын
@@ghmmr1 That is NEVER coming! Just like the Big 12 ship, it too has sailed.
@jeffgordenier12342 ай бұрын
From an Oregon state fan. Pick up the phone Memphis AD!!!
@ghmmr12 ай бұрын
No. Memphis fans dont want the PAC. We want the ACC.
@jesterscorner8792 ай бұрын
@@ghmmr1 The only way you are getting into the ACC is once it's best brands have left the conference. Much like the PAC schools Memphis is a school that is always late to the party.
@georgestepanoff82132 ай бұрын
Fresno State gets overlooked but they’ve won national championships in baseball, softball, and typically top 25 relevant in football. They produce pros like Aaron Judge, Paul George, Davante Adams, Derek Carr, and you can keep going. With that being said, Fresno is the weak link when it comes to basketball cuz this conference is becoming a powerhouse when it comes to every other team going to ncaa tourney regularly. Fresno went few years back but not regularly. This conference is legit in basketball and respectable in football. I think AAC teams should reconsider and I think St Mary’s and Grand Canyon join in basketball too!
@bulldogsbob2 ай бұрын
Daron Bland also went to Fresno State
@deanfirnatine78142 ай бұрын
Yes overlooked is the Pac 12 is a super power in baseball, many top programs led by Oregon St with three recent national championships
@georgestepanoff82132 ай бұрын
@@bulldogsbob many old school names like hall of famer logan mankins etc there’s many football and baseball pros. Football and basketball makes the most money for sure but they should not bypass other sports as well because conference of champions loves accolades in all sports.
@bulldogsbob2 ай бұрын
@@georgestepanoff8213 I’m a Fresno State fan so am well aware of that.
@mrwonderfulone2 ай бұрын
@@BuffaloPros Fresno St also has close to if not the highest average audience of over 40k. Similar to South Florida.
@davidethompson12712 ай бұрын
Aztec for Life here. Congrats to the Zags ! This is going to be one hella basketball League. Can't wait for the Aztecs and Zags to hoop it up three times a year. Memphis. Get your azz into this League. Turn up the heat and engage in a public pressure campaign on your end. We will pressure the Pac. This will be a great League if we can get you in.
@mikem9572 ай бұрын
@@davidethompson1271 👍👍
@chitowntiger1Ай бұрын
We're working on it.
@joelamthach5812Ай бұрын
Memphis will never come!!! Why school have to flight half way of USA and play for same money? Think about of all sports that will engage in new league!!! … cost millions just accommodation and flight tickets!!! Common pal!!!
@joelamthach5812Ай бұрын
Know what? Let’s wait around for UCLA to come back l!! They surely got their pretty bumps kicked around by the big boys back East!!!!
@mikem957Ай бұрын
@@joelamthach5812 Same money? 😂😂😂 The AAC payout is barely $7M per school per year now. The current MWC gets almost $5M per school per year. The new Pac with SDSU, Boise, CSU, Fresno and WSU and OSU along with Gonzaga for basketball is gonna get anywhere from $10M to $15M per school per year. And that's not including private equity either. Memphis would be foolish to turn that down to stay in a weak ass irrelevant conference that will soon be reduced in revenue payout. And the fanbase is letting the UM administration know it too. That's why they're reopening talks with the Pac.
@Mikearoniandcheese2 ай бұрын
Imagine in 3-4 years we could have been hearing #3 Gonzaga vs #5 Memphis in a conference regular season game. Too bad.
@bradymoon18892 ай бұрын
PAC West -San Diego St -Fresno St -Washington St -Oregon St -Boise St -Utah St BB only -Gonzaga PAC East -Colorado St Memphis Tulane UTSA N. Texas S. Florida BB only Grand Canyon FB 2 Divisons with 6 teams in each. 9 conference games with 5 divison games & a conference champ game. --------- Mock Memphis Schedule **Rice **Middle Tennesse Tulane *San Diego St UTSA Colorado St *Washoington St *Boise St S. Florida *Oregon St **Tulsa N. Texas *PAC West **non conference
@deanfirnatine78142 ай бұрын
At this point I think the Pac wants Texas St more than UTSA, more long term upside
@ryansuter44242 ай бұрын
Stanford is only receiving 30 percent of the standard per school distribution for the first 7 years of the contract and they still left.
@ryansuter44242 ай бұрын
The positives of staying in the AAC is that the basketball ball team is basically guaranteed a spot since they will Probably win the conference championship. If they keep doing well in the NCAA tournament their fans should come out and support.
@992porter2 ай бұрын
My guy if you gonna ask your friend a question then allow him at least one minute to finish a sentence. I respect your perspective but letting him speak after asking him a question is easy
@mikem9572 ай бұрын
If the Memphis administration doesn't care then why should the fans? This is why I can't support this mid major university anymore after 40 plus years of blood, sweat and tears, literally.
@ghmmr12 ай бұрын
Let me ask you a serious question. ACC minus FSU/Clemson/UNC/UVA/Miami or the Pac? Its not even close. ACC.
@MassGainingGuy2 ай бұрын
@@ghmmr1I didn't know that the ACC was calling for Memphis.
@OrlandoWalls2 ай бұрын
😂
@mikem9572 ай бұрын
@@ghmmr1 IF the ACC ever were to invite Memphis it would be after everyone else left for the P3. Just saying. They didn't want us before and they don't want us now. At least we're WANTED by the new Pac and with better brands and programs than what is in the American now. Use common sense.
@mikem9572 ай бұрын
@@MassGainingGuy They're not and they never will.
@sammyvillena97772 ай бұрын
Dude what are y’all doing?!? Join the New PAC! and get UNLV to sign with you! The ONLY issue is the Olympic Sports but Memphis can find a way.
@ghmmr12 ай бұрын
Seriously? Tell me - what is the PACs new media deal? We dont even know yet. Good grief.
@frankpitman3431Ай бұрын
Another thing, Memphis needs to consider the successful high school and college athletes and students who are going to choose between an AAC team and a PAC-12 school.
@OrlandoWalls2 ай бұрын
Can't afford to join! Why do they keep leaving that part out?
@a.r.sheriff50702 ай бұрын
As a Louisville fan I would rather Memphis along with Tulane be in the ACC with us. Some Original Metro Conference Rivals
@chitowntiger1Ай бұрын
So would we but this has been going on for years. I'm tired of us chasing the two birds in the bush.
@ryansuter44242 ай бұрын
Does Memphis have a good non conference schedule? SDSU and Gonzaga have had tuff non conference schedules. If Memphis does not have that then the fans should be pushing for it. Some teams won’t want to playMemphis cause they’re afraid of losing but they should try.
@futurecolemaniii51912 ай бұрын
Yes...great non conference schedule especially in Basketball every year, which is why we were Ranked #10 in the country last year before discontent formed in the locker-room from certain leaders on the team...It happens...
@JDPri772 ай бұрын
If Memphis doesn't jump on then sorry. Also, you need to look at the BSU - Wazzu football game. The stadium was what the PAC12 will be in the future. You can decide to be part of it, or you can play Army and Florida Atlantic and Rice. Those are zero games for your fan base.
@Kakasenpi2 ай бұрын
donkey fans rarely show up lol. even at a pac-12 lvl. pls albertsons stadium is trash
@SurfCityBill2 ай бұрын
Largest attendance EVER at the Boise St Wazzu game.
@ghmmr12 ай бұрын
OR we can wait for FSU/Clemson to jump and join the ACC.
@Kakasenpi2 ай бұрын
@@SurfCityBill sad, we fill the stadium every game
@SurfCityBill2 ай бұрын
@Kakasenpi what team are you talking about? Because Memphis averaged less than 33,000 last year. Well below a sellout.
@ghmmr12 ай бұрын
I would MUCH RATHER be in the ACC. Clemson/FSU/Miami/UNC/UVA will inevitably jump to a variation of the Big Ten or SEC. No reason why Memphis cant jump into the ACC with a UCONN, Tulane, and USF.
@mrwonderfulone2 ай бұрын
The reason is that they have never been invited, are considered dilutive and the ACC is not necessarily folding.
@ryansuter4424Ай бұрын
I’m wonder if getting another university in the PAC 12; that Memphis would prefer to have ; could entice them to join in? I see the PAC 12 getting 9 football teams and 11 basketball teams. They currently have 7 football teams and 8 basketball teams. That means two more all sport members that have football and basketball and one more basketball only team. Does Memphis currently have a rivalry team that packs the venues that is not currently in a “power 4” conference ?
@RolandoAbalajonАй бұрын
Go Zagsssssssssssssssss...
@j.thompson93452 ай бұрын
Man, Memphis better call FedEx, Auto Zone and International Paper. I'm sure collectively they can pay the $25 million exit fee from the AAC.
@ryansuter4424Ай бұрын
Memphis basketball will be able to make it into the NCAA tournament by winning the AAC conference Championship every year so they will make it in every or most years.
@GreggRobinson-rb3xyАй бұрын
It sure would be nice to hear what the guy in the beard had to say as opposed to GP saying the same thing over and over again.
@joelamthach5812Ай бұрын
SDSU and Boise State lead the way in Basketball and Football!!! They will hear from this new League!!!!
@rustyroosterrusty2 ай бұрын
Memphis needs to join the PAC NOW!!
@roderickhogan45662 ай бұрын
Memphis y'all should make that move better than AAC
@GrovasaurusRex2 ай бұрын
My fantasy picks to the PAC-12. Memphis, UConn, Notre Dame.
@jamiethornton61012 ай бұрын
PAC schools who have been in the NCAA tournament over the last three years: Gonzaga, SDSU (Both Final Fours) Boise St, Washington St, Utah St, Colorado State, and Oregon State. AAC schools who have been in the NCAA tournament over the last three years: UAB, Memphis. Hard decision. The Memphis AD should be getting back on the phone right this very second. What another blunder by the school if they blow this.
@GundamGokuTV2 ай бұрын
I disagree that the SEC doesn't care about Geography. Texas and Oklahoma are right next to LSU, Texas A&M, Missouri and Arkansas. It is not weird for them to be in that conference. The Big Ten doesn't care. They got USC going to play games in NY. The PAC-12 should stay regional. As there is less money to go around. They should go for New Mexico State or Texas State before Memphis.
@glperez772 ай бұрын
PAC12 has to get into Texas, Tennessee, & Louisiana
@PCSPounder2 ай бұрын
It wouldn’t hurt to have Memphis and UTSA. But not any schools just to get into states. It’s the school that adds value, not the state.
@ghmmr12 ай бұрын
@@PCSPounderWrong. State/City = More Media $$$.
@PCSPounder2 ай бұрын
@@ghmmr1 With your logic, the Southwest Conference would never have died. SMU is in a major media market and offered itself to the ACC for no media fee just to get in the door. The ACC is in it for the recruiting help. Texas State is not in Oregon State’s class. Oregon State actually carries a fair portion of the market, even including the hate of UO fans. Now, Texas State might end up in the Pac, but their athletic budget is rather tiny. Wonder why that is. I can easily go forward on this for a few hours. But simply stated, the Pac was going for UNLV, not Middle Tennessee State… for reasons.
@kwikdraw012 ай бұрын
You have to let you co host get a word in. Lol..... Don't worry Memphis is coming be patient. Original nnmbers weren't right but the PAC12 will up the anty.
@zenshinroshi186Ай бұрын
The Pac is going to concentrate on the TV deal first (at the suggestion of Memphis), keeping things open until then. Pac schools are encouraging OSU/WSU to pony up more of the 255 million they are getting from the settlement to pay this and perhaps Tulane's exit as well.
@PCSPounder2 ай бұрын
Geography is not important to conferences that get $30 million per school per year. The P2+2 are getting paid to travel. Sadly, unless someone like the CW wants to flash hard-to-believe cash at the Pac, I question if the math favors Memphis jumping. It’s sad because Memphis is otherwise the Pac’s obvious school of choice. Even then, will Memphis pack arenas for Utah State and Fresno State?
@georgestepanoff82132 ай бұрын
Fresno State is typically one of the best out of all those schools when it comes to football, baseball, and softball. Basketball they were always mid in MW. That’s their weak spot but football wise they’ve been more successful lately than Memphis to be honest.
@PCSPounder2 ай бұрын
@@georgestepanoff8213 But the question here is whether this fills seats in Memphis.
@futurecolemaniii51912 ай бұрын
Yes; we travel hard...and thats' a fact...
@wyoungmn2 ай бұрын
@@PCSPounderit’s not gonna feel the seats. A Fresno St. or Oregon St. still want bring people out. We should have been in the ACC years ago
@ryansuter4424Ай бұрын
Memphis will move to the PAC 12 if it wants its football team to have the best chance to make it into the current CFP.
@integritymatters51142 ай бұрын
PAC has been in 3 of the last 7 championships
@johndegunya7402 ай бұрын
The upcoming media lookin will probably reduce AAC monies to existing members since SMU. Houston. UCF, and Cincy departed last year.
@EL.JEFE1231Ай бұрын
I don't have a dog in the fight but, it doesn't make sense to go to the PAC.. AAC had a billion-dollar tv deal, we still don't know what the PAC is going to get with the CW and Amazon.
@deanfirnatine78142 ай бұрын
Memphis will always be coveted by the Pac 12, the Pac just has to cough up more dollars both in assistance for those massive AAC exist fees and in playoff revenue sharing. My guess is the Pac 12 made a promise to the Zags to continue to pursue Memphis in order to make it one of the premier hoops conferences. The Pac 12 is nowhere near done, they still covet the TV markets of Texas State, Memphis, Tulane and South Florida. That all said the Memphis AD has to meet them half way, the Pac 12 may have a massive war chest of money but considering all they owe to the MWC it will dwindle fast.
@aw3someinc1752 ай бұрын
Hopefully not Florida, I want us to stay at least mostly regional
@ghmmr12 ай бұрын
I would much rather the ACC.
@futurecolemaniii51912 ай бұрын
Well said...and balanced comment...I think Memphis will soon join the PAC...If the PAC is wise and I think they are, they will re-visit Memphis in a hurry...It is the only logical thing to do at this juncture...to become an elite conference...
@DocSkirv2 ай бұрын
Please come to the PAC, Memphis. We want you.
@futurecolemaniii51912 ай бұрын
We feel the same way about you'all...The PAC and Memphis just need to work out the Financial piece...and go from there...I think Memphis will end up in the PAC...I really do...
@deanfirnatine78142 ай бұрын
It is not really speculative that the Pac 12 will have a better TV deal than the AAC, word is its sitting at $8 million per team from the CW right now and will go up the more good teams they add. If Memphis does not make this happen, especially after the Gonzaga move I have a feeling the Memphis AD may not have a job in three years, you cannot tell your fans and alumni that give big $ that "what you want does not matter" that is how you lose fans and your job.
@austindavis8382Ай бұрын
Gary buddy, you gotta let your guest talk lol Dude probably spoke less than 50 words
@dus10092 ай бұрын
a move that does nothing for Pac 12
@MattBuild42 ай бұрын
Alright Memphis what are the excuses now?
@ghmmr12 ай бұрын
We would rather be in the ACC. Sorry.
@MattBuild42 ай бұрын
@@ghmmr1 Except the ACC youd go to wouldnt actually be the ACC youre envisioning.
@James-og9yf2 ай бұрын
Does Memphis want to run with the pac or be Charlie tuna. Never good enough to be in the ACC or big 12. Memphis should go to the pac to run to greatest because you are you and you want to be great just like the pac. And you don't need ACC or big 12 to be great.
@kickazz27302 ай бұрын
You know more than Memphis AD.
@TylerSnoen-no1yu2 ай бұрын
It sounds like he makes more sense than Memphis AD