Grogen IS Strongest AO Unit In The GAME! - Summoners War

[@joemama-kc7ez]

at 3:04, hanwul ignored jessica ignoring def break. i know that’s how his s3 works but i never even thought about it like that

[@graemetang4173]

With your history of getting good Arena LD5s, Talisman is on his way, I have faith 🙌

[@Seiishizo]

haha who knows, would still be insane unit for siege etc

[@joshuat3970]

​@@Seiishizo luci and talisman incoming for you 😂😂😂

[@MulyonoRAJA]

He need Veronica so bad😂😂

[@skullkiddsk]

who needs talisman when grogen exists?

[@red_dll]

Just got a Grogen. Thanks for the team suggestions!

[@williamtaylor8735]

I have grogen but no neph. Hard to make a team that can content the 33 tritons and enough set up for grogen. Any suggestion? I run a chiwu eshir grogen truffle but will never outspd 33 tritons in g1-3

[@Seiishizo]

yea chiwu eshir is only thing that comes close

[@popyrubijanto1235]

What if you make a tiana first move and replace kabila with 2A collen? Is that will work? Or it will hard because tiana slow base speed?

[@unknown963_.-5]

What would you run with talisman without neph and other lds (also no truffle ;-;)

[@ElazulJS]

What is turn order of your ad? Triton- nyx-dark mk? I want to do it but dark mk has so high base spd and seems wasted if i make him slower

[@gladience1110]

Hardstuck g2 in EU, what can I bring vs Tritons without any fancy lds? I have the swift sets to contest just not the right comps. Dot teams dont work with the amount of junos next to tritons and I have no leo.

[@potatomatop9326]

Kabilla tiana nephthys talisman. Eu is next level compared to others so nephthys is a must

[@gladience1110]

@ wish I had any fancy ld5

[@Seiishizo]

if you have good enough runes you can do chilling chiwu +2

[@JoKyTTV]

Any replacement for Neph ? Got luci talisman but feel like everyone run so many shield set xd

[@Seiishizo]

full rage on leo is an option otherwise chiwu gal eshir + talisman

[@JoKyTTV]

@@Seiishizo Gal is a waste tbh since talisman already boost himself atk buff / CR buff so truffle is more reliable as def break + bring some dmg Yeah full rage leo might be an option that i'd should consider but wanted to do tiana kabilla aswell dunno if a gemini might be a replacement of Neph even if spd lead is weaker

[@Seiishizo]

oh wait forgot about the talisman for a sec yea. truffle/jasmine in that case

[@hameius]

If you compare leah vs grogen who is better?

[@DaTLMusic]

I would say grogen, leah needs speed buff so it's harder to get her ideal team. She also does less damage if the opponents are faster, making her less predictable. I have to use tablo on my leah team. They are both top tier tho

[@DSkillz55]

I'm currently using Chiwu Adriana Luer Grogen. Is Chiwu Eshir Galleon better?

[@Seiishizo]

yea, since you need less spd on the other units. also truffle/jasmine >> luer

[@krisnaa8238]

talisman, kabilla, gemini, wind demon how do u think?

[@MulyonoRAJA]

You cant outspeed without lead spd

[@TheRammsteinfan91]

​@@MulyonoRAJAgemini SPD lead 😏

[@MulyonoRAJA]

@@TheRammsteinfan91 everybody now bring Vannessa for ad ,wanna race with her ? Your 19% ??

[@Seiishizo]

would rather place a 33 lead on demon spot. oliver or something if you want to reset psama

[@DuongNguyen-yb7zz]

nice content,sir

[@DiabloDSO]

how fast grogen should be please ?

[@Seiishizo]

depends on the spd of the kabilla

[@DiabloDSO]

@ thx i run her around 311

[@Johnathan_reid]

Say i got nepthys, can i replace grogen with zairos?

[@Seiishizo]

yep u can

[@muhdAmsyar-oh6sl]

But grogen w/o buff hits like talisman with buff. Talisman owner here and I’m jealous with the patch ☹️☹️

[@Skaumi112]

How do you think is us hanwul owners feel. Gets outshined by grogen in every way. Especially vs vannessa

[@andufalador]

Thats the point, grogen gets 150 crit dmg, talisman gets attk buff.

[@LuciGuard]

Wait a minute, Grogen doesnt do even that much dmg like Talisman bc he ignores def ingore effects, which mean his dmg is 100% efficent.

[@drinksmilo]

Dorothy owner here.

[@picjojo8022]

​@@drinksmiloi would take her :D dd with speed lead is amazing. i would take hanwul too, i think i got the runes for him :D but i am using talisman and he is fun

[@JohnHerker-es1ri]

@Seiishizo how you like my AD and Camilla?🤣

[@Seiishizo]

nice runes ^.^ that was a tanky/fast one for sure

[@okanaydemir7731]

Hi bro its zedshizle, Damn yesterday u farmed me asf 😂. And Yeah a swap runes for my triton time to time with nem his faster

[@Seiishizo]

^.^ makes sense :P solid set on the triton for sure!

[@okanaydemir7731]

@ Yeah ty, but i need to work on my def better juno was pretty useless, vero will be better

[@HUNTER-D-MILF5]

Ur fire string master si fast

[@TheRammsteinfan91]

Ty for hitting me

[@Drakeo187]

I want one now 😮‍💨

[@kevinmias7560]

rune of your kabilla plz ?

[@DSkillz55]

It's Swift Broken

[@Talon.d.Achille]

What can I add to a zaiross tiana comp ?

[@timohackel3651]

deborah galleon

[@348joshua]

How can u say grogen if its neptyhs actually? Plss shei you play this game a lot and then ask if grogen best

[@Seiishizo]

for arena off yea. neph is replaceable by chiwu eshir + armorbreaker. sure it worse, but its not impossible to play grogen without

[@abraksas14]

hanwul dmg is just so bad.. as a kinda f2p player, i will never get the runes you have on him and i will prob never get another ld nat5. he really just needs a buff!

[@Doblliin]

Hanwuls a joke, when’s he gonna get buffed

[@Vzkwm76-Nr5]

Why i stop watching your videos? Units that i never gonna have✅ so no point on watching your whale guides👍

[@Vzkwm76-Nr5]

Gg com2us very funny game non getting ld5 in 10y. But seems like some accounts getting everything🤣

[@Seiishizo]

this is not a guide, but a unit showcase. what would you expect? me not to use new buffed units? Plus theres plenty of non ld videos out there as well.