Ground Zero Mosque Debate Scene - The Newsroom (S1E6)

[@999newaccount]

This show is great, it riles the ignorant up something amazing. If anything can make even a few Americans research something or look at the bigger picture then mission accomplished in my opinion.

[@LittleDesertFlower78]

There was already a Mosque in the area where they planned this one.. Closer actually, since before the towers were there. -- Did you not know that?

[@rvickner]

absolutely brilliant

[@override367]

And the number of Americans who die to coal pollution each month is approximately the same as the number killed on 9/11 I'm not sure about the point

[@LittleDesertFlower78]

Its a top rated show, not a movie.

[@ChanelleFT]

I get really happy when anyone mentions Fight Club :) Anyway, great scene

[@LittleDesertFlower78]

YES, the same type - same one actually, according to our gov. What he's saying is that ANYONE who murders is a sociopath.. That religion does not dictate homicidal craziness.. Its jst that some people are! There are bad apples in EVERY bunch.. You wont find a bunch w/o them actually. -- And it aint the groups they associate w/ that do this, its the fact that those people suck! (Can you seperate that logically in your mind. - Religions dont kill, bad people do! Plain & simple.)

[@LittleDesertFlower78]

(Cont..) They tell the men (or boys) that its the US fault that their living situations are so terrible (which, to some degree is often true.. although it isnt the only reason, & furthermore, this way - terror & violence - in no way serves to remedy their problems).. They preach that what they do is noble/just/god's will/etc, & other such lies (used all throughout time). They tell them its to help their families/people (which it doesnt). -- They basically USE these guys 4 their own evil agendas.

[@Puunyamya]

Adding up the total amount of rapes, murders and beatings through out the history of different extremist groups from different religions is the way we tell things are bad? Really? Every religion has crazies that do horrible things. The one that does it the most doesn't make it worst then the others. Or mean we have to focus on more. They are all bad. And we should be wary of all of them. That should be obvious, whether you are Liberal or Republican or a Zebra. I don't care. So why do you?

[@LittleDesertFlower78]

can you give me a source frm which you got those figures (a VALID source by a reputable group w/ stats or body count - not jst some blog w/ some info someone CLAIMS to be true).. I will look it up & if it turns out you are correct I will cite it here. -- Im fair. :) **Also, the numbers must be specifically re: religious killings etc.. and not those crimes commited by soldiers in war - because wars over there are primarily territorial & political & not religious.. like MOST wars everywhere are.

[@LittleDesertFlower78]

Where did you learn the 'fact' that they planned a mosque in the center..?? (Im sorry but all the FACTS I've heard are very VERY different than that.. The one everyone was debating, I know, was to be built 4 blocks away - one block further away, actually, than the building which the mosque in question ALREADY resided - since before the towers were built.) What mosque are you talking about..??

[@GleefulNihilism]

If you can give one piece of solid evidence that what you said wasn't made up by either you or someone like you I'll be impressed. Also, McVeigh wasn't an atheist- he said on multiple occasions that he while he wasn't a rank and file Catholic anymore he believed in a higher power and that the natural laws were "energized" by that power. "A Look Back in TIME: Interview with Timothy McVeigh," 3/30/96. "McVeigh faces day of reckoning: Special report: Timothy McVeigh," The Guardian Online

[@LittleDesertFlower78]

Yeah, my father IS a Muslim frm Syria (born in Damascus, became US citizen in 60's), who now lives in Dubai - where I go visit him every few yrs.. I've travelled thru middle east.. And, until time constraints prevented me, planned 2 minor in Theology. (Also, my boyfrnds a marine who fought in both Iraq & Afghanistan - where he lived for a yr & got to know culture & people.) -- But u, the stranger who knows nothing about me, are TOTALLY right. :\ (U ought 2 work on checking that hubris.. Geesh!)

[@LittleDesertFlower78]

What?!?!?! - "every sect (and school of jurisprudence) of Islam does teach this" Umm, no that is not true.. Not at all actually. Thats jst a flat out lie.. Islam does not teach that. -- Either that guy read a crazy translation of the Quaran or he has an interesting way which he interprets things.. But no, Islam does not teach that. Sorry.

[@LittleDesertFlower78]

(#2Cont..) Also, I am a liberal. I am NOT an asshole. I've never blamed Palin Or Tea Party for ANY sociopath's actions. (Where'd ya get that one?!?! FOXnews tell you that?!?!*) Shoot, why would I have to?!?! (Lord knows there are plenty of othr valid not 'reaching' critisisms to use re: them.) -- And lastly.. I am in no way pathetic. Okay. :) *Word of advice: Go to Politifact & check their accuracy before you swallow their bull.. Jst to err on the side of caution, truth, & remaining credible.

[@LittleDesertFlower78]

Robert Spencer is mistaken. Those words are untrue. -- Glad to be able to clear that up for ya. Now you wont continue to repeate it & spread misinformation. You're welcome. :)

[@billyslo87]

Key word is rated. It is definitely not a top viewed.

[@LittleDesertFlower78]

"No sect of Christianity teaches that believers should make war against unbelievers, while every sect (and school of jurisprudence) of Islam does teach this."

[@LittleDesertFlower78]

**And here -- (3 W's).exitsupportnetwork.(dot com)/artcls/socio.htm -- that site shows a great case-in-point 2 what I was saying. (Shared that link because it has a good list of sociopathic trates & behaviors specifically re:cults.. But, frm what I gathered, their site actually helps those who were involved a a particular religious cult.. Specifically a cult that fancies themselves affiliated w/ the christian religion. - Although they too are most likely NOT true christians. (Get it now??)

[@scottadler]

According to this script, the theft of the Temple Mount and Hagia Sophia never happened, while Constantine's Tomb (a massive, seven-domed church) and the birthplace of Lord Rama in India never existed. On the other hand, that's the position of the muslims. By the way, they tried to do it again a few years ago in Nazareth, with a gigantic Mosque designed to overshadow the Church of the Annunciation. The Roman Catholic Church pressured the Israeli government, which put a stop to it.

[@D1yanaH]

this is bs, they should build anywhere. that down the strip clubs and bars and and dance clubs and puq

[@LittleDesertFlower78]

Yes. (In a nutshell.) -- Long version.. A few (the alpha's, leaders) are sociopaths (btw, socio's = 3-5% of pop.) & the rest are brainwashed minions (like those you'll find in 'cults' - both homicidal & suicidal kind, & of EVERY religious sect). They find these men in impoverished areas (usually due to US, or corporate, actions) & they are impressionable & easily manipulated (history has also shown you find these types in ALL variation). Most cant even read, so dont know what Koran really says.

[@billyslo87]

The woman that is on the TV opens up with the exact same points that Pamela Geller made during the whole controversy. The media lost with the Ground Zero mosque so now they are trying to win through fiction.

[@TheFairKnight]

"Jeff Daniels, playing a reporter, shreds "Phyllis Greer" in this clip in a way that no reporter ever bested Geller, mainly by pointing up instances of "Christian terrorism" -- ignoring, of course, that no sect of Christianity teaches that believers should make war against unbelievers, while every sect (and school of jurisprudence) of Islam does teach this." Robert Spencer And I would point that none of these "christians" explained and JUSTIFIED their actions by quoting jesus and the bible

[@D1yanaH]

and put mosque. :)