Grounded | Should you turn off the Haze Now?

[@OriginalRyan]

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[@Zzues]

I've decided it just isn't worth it for me and my play style. I like to be safer and not worry about freaky infected, especially those wolf spiders! I might turn it off if the gold infected wolf spider will be needed for some good upgrades, but I can get my quartzites in the red ant hill, oak tree and under the laser. Thanks for the vid :).

[@OriginalRyan]

The infected wolfie is nasty! I get it lol. If the cards themselves prove useful in any way in the future aside from creature stats, I think it'll change many players' minds or if turning off the haze is a requirement for the story.

[@1981AdamGs]

I agree. After watching this I decided it isn't worth it. My main base is by the light by the oak tree. I can get all the quartzite I need by running through the break in the oak lab and continuing through it and into the red ant hill and coming out right under my base. If I do go into the haze to get anything I just plan a trip and bring my mask.

[@talis61]

Its deffo a tough decision but I find the benefits of plugging it for the mid to late game outweigh the disadvantages. SPOILER ALERT: 2 main advantages: 1) You have access to quartzite in larger quantities without a gas mask - aside from one or two awkward areas one area has 12 blocks (I assume brittle now as I havent played in months) though you need to stand on a block to be safe and shoot with a bow as there are loads of infected. This in addition to all the other areas already mentioned (Oak Lab, Anthills etc) 2) Fungal growth is a main constituent to one of best foods in game plus its used for other recipes too. The main disadvantage is there are more infected but its not SOOOOO bad as people make it out to be. There's still loads where the Haze was but outside its not that much. The Infected Wolf Spider is a mean SOB but if you have a base around the Oak Tree there are ways to make things safer. E.g. 6 x Triangular grass sections in certain doorways to under the tree will stop that point from being accessed to stop you being caught unawares. You can always hear it and avoid it but get good at killing it and it drops loads of fungal growths for food plus Fangs and venom. It really is better to take it on late game with the new armour upgrades and better weaponry though...

[@Zzues]

@@talis61 Thanks for the feedback. I still havent plugged it but also got side tracked back into Mistlands. I think those old quartzites are now brittle with some sturdy.

[@talis61]

@@Zzues Yeah I've just plugged it and seems to be brittle marble in the valleys too. The bloody Infected Wolf spawned in less than a day at my Oak Base but no doubt because my world is months and months old lol

[@Pastor_Chief]

I wish turning off the haze also despawned the infected insects or at least kept them only in the underground in that area. I wouldn't mind fighting the infected wolf spider, but the infected are much more resilient and lethal than the other bugs and I don't feel like fighting them all over the yard. Maybe they could include that in the custom game settings? idk.

[@OriginalRyan]

I don't think that'll change. I couod see them moving the infected wolfie away from the Oak tree & switching it with the wolf spider in the haze though, that'd make sense. Also, the infected have to pose at least some sort of different threat so it makes sense that they're more difficult.

[@OriginalRyan]

Yeah, seems kinda backwards from a story perspective. Maybe if infected have already spread, turning it off would kill off the spread of infected bugs.

[@Pastor_Chief]

@dd It would be cooler if after you turn the haze off and the infected spread all over the yard, but then you had to find the remaining infected and permanently kill them to unlock a special item, or maybe unlock a side quest to fight the final infected insect with a weapon or armor piece being the prize. I spent the whole game building a massive fortress near the oak tree, and now I have a single infected spider spawn next to me, and I need to venture out to find wolf spiders for their fangs instead of being able to harvest them at the oak tree

[@MyAmazingUsername]

What on Earth are you guys talking about? "Turning off the haze should stop the infection"?! Dude. Listen to Wendell's Haze Lab audio logs. The haze is literally the only thing preventing the spread of the infected. He released the haze to save the world.

[@barrygwilliam5367]

Personally, I loved the fact that the haze was back. It was the worst decision I made, plugging it. I would rather walk around the haze, or have to go elsewhere to harvest stuff. Than have infected insects all over the yard. If I want bur weed then I just go to the plant pot near the shead. But at the end of the day it's what ever the player wants.

[@OriginalRyan]

Absolutely! I'm still wondering if somehow it'll be required to plug for the full story, but that shouldn't be an issue for most players just playing through to complete the story.

[@BenderdickCumbersnatch]

The burs in the flowerpot never respawn. Neither do the ones in the upper yard "supply stash". You can get roughly 80 burs or so without plugging the haze, but never any more than that. But honestly it's just used for the brown floors and roof tiles, I don't need it. I prefer to keep the haze enabled.

[@OriginalRyan]

@BenderdickCumbersnatch fair!

[@lightningfish6501]

My Friends and I built our base on the juice box by the pond, and we are in end game now. We solved the infected wolf spider problem by just blocking off the entrances under the tree with palisades and killing it, since it respawns there.

[@lightningfish6501]

There are still 2 wolf spiders that are by the tree, but now since they can't go under they naturally don't go near the juice box, so now our huge base is perfectly safe 😁

[@OriginalRyan]

Very nice strategy! Infected wolfie can be annoying! He's not too bad once you fight him a handful of times, but still annoying!

[@kalebd1868]

The one thing I heard that makes me feel like its bad was there were issues with the infected ladybugs destroying a bunch of grass and the piles of grass planks lagging the game bad

[@BrokenLegnd]

At 4:00 you were saying it's just the infected wold spider and larva over in the upper yard under the chair, another reason to go over there is Lint and Dust mites which aren't in other places except lint on the glove.

[@OriginalRyan]

You can easily get up to the dust mites from the bicycle without getting near the infected insects over there so really not a major deal.

[@Kingsdta]

What about the pupa leather

[@-Free.Spirit-]

@@OriginalRyan You dont even need to climb the bike. if you go around to where the entrance is to the undershed lab and walk to the end of the deck there, yo can get up on the deck easily. Its further to walk for some who would complain about that but for players like me who arent good at climbing its a Godsend way onto the deck. Its so easy now to get up there to harvest dust mites and lint, and I built a clover ramp (using nearby resources, plenty of clovers and stems, just needed to bring in the sap but I have catchers around the oak tree.) up to the ashtray to harvest the toenails. You say there isnt much of a reason to be in the upper yard. I disagree with the new update and once your further in the game, thats where I am needing to go to get my resources, so much so Im building a second base up there

[@OriginalRyan]

This was recorded way before full release so some of the tgings said no longer hold true since pretty much the entire second half of the game takes place in the upper yard with all t3 & some t2 resources.

[@gizmo-gremlin-toy-from-80s]

All very good points but I like not have to deal with an infected wolf spider when I’m geting acorns

[@OriginalRyan]

They're annoying, but not too difficult to deal with after you know how to.

[@gabmax1013]

Just plug the spawn. 😬

[@OriginalRyan]

Also an option, but time consuming & a lot of insects just kinda don't bother with walls keeping them out. They'll phase through eventually.

[@ZeroTodal]

I might just turn off the haze just to test my skill against an infected wolf spider. The infecteds running rampant around the yard do worry me because i spent forever making weed stem walls in my base but i think ill be good as long as i keep grinding weapon and armor upgrades

[@OriginalRyan]

The infected don't really "roam" the yard, they mostly stay in certain areas. However that may change.

[@ZeroTodal]

@@OriginalRyan yeah i havent seen any for a while after i turned it off a few hours ago. Just tested my skill against the infected wolfie at the oak tree and it was suprisingly easy with a lvl 1 mint mace lol

[@OriginalRyan]

Mint mace can destroy it for sure. If you fight it in a small area it's much easier too. Nice job!

[@georgev5765]

Considering that the quartzite no longer respawns I don't see the point in stopping the haze plus after I crafted the antlion armor I love going to the sandbox every other in-game day and my house is on the oak tree where I can relatively easy farm 3 wolf spiders.

[@OriginalRyan]

Great point!

[@IghtOkayAlright]

Basically you decision is gonna come down to how you play I say if you really want the spiky burs for the floors cause let’s face it that’s the only reason then do it I did but I would wasn’t till you have tier two (antlion armour, mint mace or antlion saber) thoes will allow you to take on the wolf spiders decently but if you don’t care about the floors don’t it’s really a hassle to fight them

[@OriginalRyan]

You don't necessarily need to worry about the infected wolf spiders. Late game you have literally zero reason to go to the Oak lab where the main one resides & the one in the upper yard stays in his fixed location where you only need to venture once for upgrade resources which can be done prior to turning off the haze anyways.

[@PlumbVibes]

I wish you could just open the thing back up and make the infected go back there, like a lil temporary thing

[@OriginalRyan]

That'd be cool!

[@EpicBaCkFliPz]

This was my thoughts. If its just gum, why can't it be re-collected and re-activate the haze? I don't want infected all over the yard, but I want to be able to get the infected wolf spider card and check to make sure I got everything in the haze. With them more spread out, it makes farming fungal growth way more tedious, in an already tedious game. Would also be cool if re-activating it brought the infected wolf spider to the haze permanently, so the haze doesn't just go back to normal.

[@OriginalRyan]

I'd like that as well. It just makes sense.

[@dead-tq8ui]

I lived in the oak light and plugging it was one of the worst decisions I made in grounded

[@OriginalRyan]

That's unfortunate!

[@hlvraii]

I'm pretty sure they said infected wolf spiders can't partake in infected faction raids (for the time being)

[@OriginalRyan]

They don't yet from what I've heard. It wouldn't surprise me if they did, but I don't think they ever will.

[@zaclittlejohn2701]

They were there when the update first dropped, but it was patched out as people were getting 1-3 infected wolf spiders in a raid and if you rolled 3 there really isn't much you can do to protect a base that's anywhere they can reach.

[@OriginalRyan]

Thanks for the additional info Zac! 👊

[@barbarianzg8826]

Late my save file got corrupted and i started a new..don't know when but i'm experiencing some differences from previous playtrough.. 1. Antlion +7 armor isn't near enough for farming charcoal and i've used to roam this area w ease,now it's not that simple. Apart from that its perfectly natural ya can't be in such hot area for so long even w protection. 2. I don't see a point goin' in Haze area ever again since no materials respawn and had them enough. 3. I've found a burr only in the upper yard and don't see the point in traversing ever again that poisonous area👍 4. Poison is good cause it stops infection from spreading. Story wise i didn't find yet the reason to put the plug simply because I believe its a disease even Wendell did say it so of what monstrosity he created. Fungus are the most efficient invasion organisms in the world since they can adept and conquer everything without the sign of stopping. it may spread all over the hood too..lol 5. I've manage to kill inf wolfie w my insect hammer but i just got massivelly lucky. it dropped same shenanigans as the healthy one. I didn't know of after effect of stopping the haze come out and been in massive problems since..i was so stupid,hehe..i've forgot that Haze lab is about fungus experiments and i'm way familiar w fungus style of living and of their food chain. fungus has no natural predators and should be contained at all costs,in my opp.. 6. This was only my opp from 140 ingame days and I've just learned how to befriend tiger mosquitos..me fave amigos💪 And now,the hunt can begin🤣

[@OriginalRyan]

Nice!

[@RoseDragoness]

I really want those cool burr floors. I need to test if I can beat the infected wolf spider easily and the infected ladybug below the picnic table wont randomly destroy my base down there before doing the point of no return.

[@OriginalRyan]

Infected wolfie isn't too hard if you get them in an enclosed space, much easier. Infected ladybugs, just beat them with the mint mace.

[@RoseDragoness]

@@OriginalRyan gotchu. I think I will save the game, plug the gas off, see if wolfie not too bad, then continue on. :D \

[@OriginalRyan]

Yeah, they're difficult for sure, but if you can get them in an enclosed area, it kinda prevents them shooting the explosives & at that point, it's just a faster & stronger wolfie.

[@-Free.Spirit-]

me too and I dont understand why they would make it this way where it is the only way to get the burr floors by having to do something that seems quite drastic and no way of reverting back once done. Senseless in some ways.

[@OriginalRyan]

Agreed. It'd be nice if as many have said you could undo the plugging after doin what you'd like.

[@EveBrandy]

Yup, plugged again also.

[@OriginalRyan]

Yes!

[@Meike164]

I turned the haze off cause I love the infected bugs. And it removes the need of a gas mask in a useful area

[@OriginalRyan]

100% agreed! Except the infected gnats...

[@o0XS]

Not worth it unless the dev's drop me infected bug armor

[@OriginalRyan]

😆 would be cool!

[@emergencybump463]

Still haven't played plugged it I might have to because more resources as you say. Great video 👍 Stay Original.

[@OriginalRyan]

Always appreciated Bump! 👊

[@VineyardGHS]

Running around in the Haze can get your base destroyed even over by the baseball by infected creatures I have now had my Lake base inside the little gazebo thing attacked by infected creatures because I did not turn off the haze since turning off the haze they have stopped attacking my bases

[@OriginalRyan]

It's definitely worth it in my opinion.

[@jacksonfisher4950]

Does it still spread after you turn it off with the new updates?

[@missadorkablekitty]

I actually saw the infected wolf spider inside the oak tree....not sure if that's a thing now since this video came out.

[@M4m4G4m3r1988]

Hasta La Vista, Haze!!!! Haze on. Haze off. Haze on. Haze off. Haze off is better for all the reasons you stated. The Infected bugs aren't ALL over the map, they stay in their little areas so it's not that big of a deal. Also, don't wanna have to remember a gas mask (which is also gonna take an inventory slot at some point). 👍🤘👏

[@OriginalRyan]

😆 absolutely! I've had it on for too long with the reset!

[@piggfeathers]

THE NATS KNOCK YOUR ITEM OUT OF YOUR HANDS I HATE THAT

[@OriginalRyan]

I hate gnats too!

[@NeoDarkrai0]

if you destroy the infected mushrooms it will make them angry faster

[@OriginalRyan]

Make em angry faster? Huh?

[@michael-cz9ik]

do u know if the infected bugs can destroy the grass stem? I like having my grass growing back. don't want any bare bone area.

[@OriginalRyan]

I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think the stems themselves get destroyed.

[@zaclittlejohn2701]

The infected ladybugs and wolf spiders can destroy stems.

[@firstlast-zw7uo]

The infection should spread to more insects like bees an orb weavers I enjoy the look also should have. Infected armor

[@OriginalRyan]

I agree!

[@firstlast-zw7uo]

Infected weapon make truffle tussle more viable , an shields do something with them I find useless

[@OriginalRyan]

I thonk truffle tussle is actually fine, it used to proc way more & was kinda to strong. Shields are useful lol, I'm always using one if I'm use a one handed weapon.

[@firstlast-zw7uo]

@@OriginalRyan what I mean by useless shields is should be able to upgrade em .... An truffle tussle should be added to a weapon effect

[@OriginalRyan]

I'm guessing we'll get shield upgrades at some point. Truffle tussle is fine in my opinion, we've got different weapon effects already & adding in "infection" damage doesn't really line up with those.

[@ziz263]

👍the infected wolf spider is hard to kill and i want all the gold card seven card and finish the full set oh i don’t miss the like bouton on this vidéo

[@OriginalRyan]

The infected wolfie is a pain! Fresh weapons & strong armor tho. I've not fought him since we got armor upgrades so it might be time to try again lol

[@xsaytinx4495]

He’s about the same

[@xsaytinx4495]

Rollie pollie armor with 2h mint mace

[@hurricane757]

Does infected wolf spider have normal patterns as normal wolf spider like it sleeps during the day and prowls at night?

[@OriginalRyan]

Nope! I don't think the infected insects have any sort of sleep cycle. The infected wolf spiders are always walkin around.

[@GeneTHEHAMMER]

Rocking the replay, lets go🎥👀🍿

[@OriginalRyan]

Always appreciated Gene! 👊

[@Badoopboop]

I had a REEEEAL issue with this…… On one hand I could be the FIRST EVER with a full holo deck….. on the other hand… keep the haze…… Your now talking to the first ever full holo deck owner lmao. Didn’t change all that much about the yard anyway TBH.

[@OriginalRyan]

😆 nice! Yeah, it really doesn't change as much as some make it seem.

[@ZedNull.]

7 days ago? i maxed my holo deck before you then. i assume so did hundreds of people ^^

[@Badoopboop]

@@ZedNull. check my channel. Dates and everything are up. I was first, Paul the scavenger king was second.

[@Badoopboop]

@@OriginalRyan…….zed got quiet……. ???🤷

[@OriginalRyan]

😆

[@LionscubSaint]

It's pretty cool that the gas mask gives explosive damage resistance

[@OriginalRyan]

It is! Makes it nice when going to the Haze!

[@allmyself666]

my main base is in the oak hill soda can....so yeah, noooooo.

[@OriginalRyan]

Don't want an infected wolfie neighbor? 😆

[@allmyself666]

@@OriginalRyan I still have to change my pants from the normal ones playing peekaboo. I'm good.

[@OriginalRyan]

🤣 fair enough!

[@travismusser7409]

Anyone else dealing w your game not discovering new locations?

[@OriginalRyan]

That's been an issue for awhile. For some, you need to linger near the area or find some certain invisible spot to trigger the location being found.

[@SourRazberry]

What Ryan said! And I mean reaaaally try super weird positions. Back up far, run up close to it. Jump around it and on top of it. Sometimes the ones on my save have had horrible trigger points.

[@OriginalRyan]

Really bad update situations with that. Hopefully something that gets addressed soon!

[@travismusser7409]

@@OriginalRyan ok I was worried my game was corrupted or something. It's my oldest save since and wasn't sure. Thanks tho. I'm sure they iron that all out by sept

[@OriginalRyan]

Yeah, it's everyone as far as I know lol.

[@Kingsdta]

What about the pupa leather under the porch

[@OriginalRyan]

What about it?

[@1981AdamGs]

This is a really helpful video and was exactly what I was looking for. Thanks for the great information!

[@OriginalRyan]

Much appreciated Adam! Always! 👊

[@LionscubSaint]

I have a save where I haven't killed a single red ant but they still seek revenge on me and attack my base? If anything should be mad at me it would be spiders, larva, grubs, weevils and aphids....maybe they're paying the red ants to do their dirty work?

[@OriginalRyan]

Probably because you've been in their "area" too long. That's one of the reasons they'll raid as well.

[@iniff]

What difficulty you on? I’m on mild now and have only been raided by red ants - I’m wondering if it’s a difficulty thing.

[@OriginalRyan]

Medium in my main. I don't think the difficulty plays a part, but we really can't prove or disprove it. 🤷‍♂️

[@Tanubtanu]

@@iniff There is a setting on custom where ant will/will not attack your base, It's on by default that's why i keep my game on custom. I got my whole base raid before i could craft repair tools (I build my house on the first Field Stations beside the biggest red ant hill)

[@maigematthews5620]

Questions: Would luring a spider to the haze trench eventually kill the spider? Do you mind doing a video about it, and maybe a few other insects? Thank so much in advance!

[@OriginalRyan]

I'll test it out!

[@victorsaturn3579]

Anything that isn't infected that enters the haze area will take damage. I would say like -5% health damage.

[@grayman9701]

I just started the game and my first thought was “Sure I can drown them?” 🤔. My results were fruitful 😈. Now I have lot’s of spider fangs 😂.

[@OriginalRyan]

Nice! All of the "land" insects will drown if they end up in water. Really good way to get resources early on if you can pull it off!

[@grayman9701]

@@OriginalRyan That’s amazing 😄. I’m the kind of person who is too stubborn to play the game unless it’s on the hardest difficulty so playing on Whoa! I was having trouble getting through the game.

[@tomit6994]

Turned haze of like 100 ingame days ago. Zero infected bug raid..

[@OriginalRyan]

I didn't think it would affect it. I've only gotten raided by the red ants lol.

[@msghost0076]

👍👻

[@OriginalRyan]

Always appreciated MsGhost 007!

[@CallmeGrim9226]

Hi

[@OriginalRyan]

Hi Kai! 👋