Group Dhikr is Sunnah || NBF 325 || Dr Shadee Elmasry

[@saadtahir1764]

Signed in just to say this: Assalamu alaikum brother Ryan. We hope and pray you get your job inshaAllah and that it brings you benefit in this life and the next. Ameen. We love you, brother. Take care السلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته

[@ibnnader8373]

My dear brother, ibn Masud is not just a normal companion. The prophet peace be upon him said about him: "Whatever ibn Masud narrates to you, then believe in him." Tirmidhi 3799. The group dhikr narration is mentioned in sunan ad darimi and has been authenticated by al haytami

[@sadofaraji5999]

Listen to understand not to argue,he said some scholars reject that particular hadith one of them ibn hanbali

[@NoMan-pp1jq]

The Hadith says to follow the guidance of Ammar (ra) and to believe the truthfulness of Ibn Masud and both are in reference to their deep knowledge. It is not a permit to take everything that he did ijtihad on or if that was the case then there are a few times where the caliphs and companions disagreed with him and the scholars took the opinion of the caliphs and companions on those matters

[@bravotwozero]

@@NoMan-pp1jq the Hadith is a proof. You don’t like it, it’s your problem. You have to bring proof that ‘it was rejected’ otherwise stop wasting people’s time with nonsense

[@NoMan-pp1jq]

@@bravotwozero ah yes because that’s how hadith are understood, standalone without context. If that’s what the companions understood then explain why so many of the companions disagreed with him such as Umar, Uthman and Zayd bin Thabit etc

[@bravotwozero]

@@NoMan-pp1jq yet you failed to bring proof

[@mrmane2000]

Alhamdulillah in most places in Malaysia, it has become embedded and ingrained into the culture that we make group dhikr and du'a after every congregational salah, such that it's considered odd if it was silent after salah.

[@moonmoonStar]

Alhamdulillah for us Malaysian muslims. and surely Allah will definitely reward the those present making the dhikr. those who said it's bidaah bla bla, actually it's not really about the sunnah or bidaah.. it's all just their LAZINESS and want others to do the bare minimum like them. LOL

[@adilshekh8879]

Same in kashmir. ❤

[@MotorWorld-v8y]

It didn’t happen it the time of the prophet, Allah says the example is in Muhammad saw

[@moonmoonStar]

@@MotorWorld-v8y Sure, there is no compilation of Quran into one mushaf at the time of Prophet. so ?

[@adilshekh8879]

@@MotorWorld-v8y did you see th video? It clearly mentions that the Prophet did dhikr after salah

[@mbb1849]

This was verryyyy beneficial for me as someone who was weary about group dhikr. I’m interested to read the argument against this book

[@Drillakilla80]

Alhumdulilah, this was really good.

[@Somebody294]

Jazakum Allah khair

[@rodriguesroneyjoseph6113]

Thank you so much for sharing this, to clear the misunderstanding among the Muslims.

[@hamzamedina146]

I think we know Ibn abbas ra is a very important sahabi hadith sahih muslim 583 c is here mashallah

[@gannahawaits]

Such a beautiful podcast, thank you!

[@theminaret1]

MashaAllah.

[@Abdirahman83]

JazakAllah khair

[@hamzamedina146]

Hadith "حَدَّثَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ حَاتِمٍ، أَخْبَرَنَا مُحَمَّدُ بْنُ بَكْرٍ، أَخْبَرَنَا ابْنُ جُرَيْجٍ، ح قَالَ وَحَدَّثَنِي إِسْحَاقُ بْنُ مَنْصُورٍ، - وَاللَّفْظُ لَهُ - قَالَ أَخْبَرَنَا عَبْدُ الرَّزَّاقِ، أَخْبَرَنَا ابْنُ جُرَيْجٍ، أَخْبَرَنِي عَمْرُو بْنُ دِينَارٍ، أَنَّ أَبَا مَعْبَدٍ، مَوْلَى ابْنِ عَبَّاسٍ أَخْبَرَهُ أَنَّ ابْنَ عَبَّاسٍ أَخْبَرَهُ أَنَّ رَفْعَ الصَّوْتِ بِالذِّكْرِ حِينَ يَنْصَرِفُ النَّاسُ مِنَ الْمَكْتُوبَةِ كَانَ عَلَى عَهْدِ النَّبِيِّ صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏.‏ وَأَنَّهُ قَالَ قَالَ ابْنُ عَبَّاسٍ كُنْتُ أَعْلَمُ إِذَا انْصَرَفُوا بِذَلِكَ إِذَا سَمِعْتُهُ ‏.‏" Ibn 'Abbas reported: Dhikr (mentioning the name of Allah) in a loud voice after obligatory prayers was (a common practice) during the lifetime of the Messenger of Allah (ﷺ) ; and when I heard that I came to knew that they (the people) had finished the prayer. Sahih Sahih Muslim, 583 c In-Book Reference: Book 5, Hadith 156 USC-MSA web (English) reference: Book 4, Hadith 1211 (deprecated numbering scheme) Get Hadith Collection (All in one) App gtaf.org/apps/hadith #GreentechApps #GTAF #Hadith #ShareAHadith

[@NoorullahBaig-hu1ec]

So whoever deems group dhikr to be sunnah should hold them after every prayer. not just on the day of mawlid or some other specifics days.

[@MillhouseSpeaks]

Please speak about Hadrah

[@enacausmembrane]

Hadir and Nadir?

[@MillhouseSpeaks]

@@enacausmembrane that’s a whole different thing

[@enacausmembrane]

@@MillhouseSpeaks so what are you talking about?

[@MillhouseSpeaks]

@@enacausmembrane it’s not a necessary component of the religion so if you don’t know there’s no need to know

[@enacausmembrane]

@@MillhouseSpeaks bro tell me. Is it some kind of bidah?

[@mbebop87]

Can someone please tell me what the book the Shaykh is reading from?

[@ChoosyDylan]

The remembrance of God by Imam Suyuti

[@NNM1970]

AssalamuAlaikum, how about women only gathering at home?

[@saliksayyar9793]

Remembering in group is sal’at.

[@ssjaak538]

Thanks for your opinion. Ill prefer imam suyuti over you

[@starkidforlife136]

If it was in fact sunnah, there would be no reason for it to be contentious in the Islamic world. Be genuine in your pursuit of knowledge, and be logical

[@TheArizePodcast]

Ignorant people contending with opinions is not an authoritative source to derive shariah from. Its well known that there is a group from the muslims that prop up obscure and minority opinions as the only opinion and have created contention where there used to be none.

[@alif1217]

It is absolutely not contentious in the Islamic world. The vast majority of scholars agreed that it is permissible, and this is practiced in every single Muslim country. The only ones who argue about this are Muslims who learn their deen on the internet, especially in the West, and those are a tiny minority who make a lot of noise

[@maherzain434]

​@@alif1217 exactly, it's not contentious at all throughout the entire muslim world, only amongst a small influential minority

[@MotorWorld-v8y]

The sunnah is athkar after salah and aytul kursi

[@TT-hx9nj]

Quoting as-Suyuti on this lol. The dhikr outloud that Ibn 'Abbas mentioned wasnt in unison, and ironically, we find sufis today making group du'a after salah, rather than dhikr outloud as the sahaba did. The narration doesn't say it was due to multiple groups. Anything to avoid the sunnah with certain people. The Moroccan zawiyas filled with bid'ah and calling upon the dead? Sciences (tajweed, usool) being formulated and new terminology being developed are not 'ibaadah. They are not worship. The concepts already existed, and anybody that has studied these sciences (especially علوم الآلة) knows this. التتبع والاستقراء. As for hajj التلبية بصوت جماعي is not allowed. Same with eid takbeer.

[@mrrobot9442]

Whether it is dua or dhikr after prayers, both are positive things. InshaAllah both will be rewarded by Allah SWT

[@TT-hx9nj]

@@mrrobot9442 Only one of them is the sunnah, those that choose to do du'a in unison instead of the sunnah are no doubt practising innovation, which the Prophet, Sahaba and scholars warned against.

[@onnixchaney8797]

Bro obviously didn’t listen to the segment 😭

[@aamirh3567]

As-suyuti is mujtahid mutlaq. Who are you to make conclusions and give verdicts over the great historical scholars?

[@aamirh3567]

@@TT-hx9njinnovation is of different kinds, only a novice student looks to one hadith alone and concludes his evidence, whilst disregarding other evidence. Whatever suits you pseudo-salaf