Group judging for the Herding Group at the 2019 Westminster Kennel Club Dog Show | FOX SPORTS

Watch ‘Baby Lars' the Bouvier Des Flandres win the Herding Group and advance to the Best in Show Competition at the 2019 Westminster Kennel Club Dog Show.
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[@foxsports]

Which dogs from the Herding Group were your favorite?

[@itisme821]

The German Shepherd I loved

[@suecastillo4056]

FOX Sports Bouvier of course❤️❣👑

[@sandrapowell5695]

Smooth collie and rough collie

[@jj022]

love GSD, too bad they have so many health issues in the US. :(

[@joangreene8554]

Canaan Dog!!!

[@spoonface9698]

1:43 Australian Cattle Dog 2:43 Australian Shepherd 3:52 Bearded Collie 4:53 Beauceron 5:57 Belgian Malinois 6:59 Belgian Sheepdog 8:07 Belgian Tervuren 9:14 Bergamasco 10:19 Berger Picard 11:38 Border Collie * * 12:37 Bouvier Des Flanders * 13:41 Briard 14:45 Canaan Dog 15:50 Cardigan Welsh Corgi 16:57 Collie (Rough) 17:48 Collie (Smooth) 18:51 Entlebucher Mountain Dog 19:49 Finnish Lapphund 20:47 German Shepherd Dog * * * 21:56 Icelandic Sheepdog 22:46 Miniature American Shepherd 23:51 Norwegian Buhund 24:46 Old English Sheepdog * * * * 26:07 Pembroke Welsh Corgi 27:07 Polish Lowland Sheepdog 28:07 Puli 29:13 Pumi 30:16 Pyrenean Shepherd 31:21 Shetland Sheepdog 32:33 Spanish Waterdog 33:39 Swedish Vallhund

[@ZsaZsaUmbra]

You're a saint

[@spoonface9698]

Zsa Zsa Umbra Thanks! I posted the timestamps for the Non Sporting group too. I’m still working on the rest of the groups but I probably won’t be able to get to it til this weekend :)

[@AndyPMusic]

What are the stars (*) for?

[@jocelynecoutu5806]

Spoon Face ..thank you

[@rcdaisydog9406]

Thank you!

[@darkwolf2622]

I LOVE Beaucerons. My absolute favorite breed of all, I want one so bad.

[@bolton7961]

darkwolf262 ikr

[@MillieMaa]

Yes our fave also! If we owned a lot of land for it to run around on that’s the dog we’d get

[@Depths17]

I would never be able to choose best dog omg. So many stunning dogs.. I want them all to win

[@lisadesautels6985]

Loved Watching #1 Sheltie Condrad. So full of life when he is in the ring!

[@wendywinn270]

All dogs are just amazing, beautiful all of them happy to be loved & showed.

[@blankslate77]

So excited for the Bouvier. It's not over bred.

[@belle369]

I love Bouviers. I showed one once. He was a huge goofball

[@sjsisjsjks]

Bouviers are nice dogs but they look pretty different now vs. 100 years ago - a good deal more coat and size these days - if that's what you mean by "overbred".

[@charityblackwell2331]

Well between the excess of drool and coat care...gladly i think they are safe. 😊👍

[@mdbritton9424]

They were like everything once

[@lucianosotelo]

Spanish Water Dog and Bouvier are my favorite

[@ceciliawestberg6277]

Love the Pumi . They are fantastic and very smart . And very cute.

[@phoenixdavida8987]

I love the pumi too!!!! Such a cute dog.

[@emmarose4234]

Pumik are great. :)

[@CamilaLopez-tt1hc]

The ears make them look like Mickey Mouse in a way. I love it.

[@bellasmysingingmonstersent6317]

14:53 The Cannnan Dog Is One Pharoel Dog For 2,000 Years When They Lived In The Desert. Hooray Aah Yay!

[@historychick]

I love Belgian Sheepdogs. They're so sweet.

[@pawpower1023]

German shepherds are my life. Mine isn't a show line he is a German working line. Doesn't have the low back. He is my protector and my snuggle bear ❤️

[@stephs9869]

working line is best, the show breeders are destroying the breed, every year they get worse

[@belle369]

Work lines are better. Like Steph said they are ruining the breed with the breed standard

[@katesszz]

@@stephs9869 They are naturally moving like that though.

[@ravennas.2736]

@@stephs9869 I don't understand the sloping back. My friend's mom bred GSDs for the police and they had straight strong backs. They were gorgeous.

[@belle369]

I used to show my giant schnauzer as a junior handler. She’s old now (retired) though, 11 almost 12! She still acts like a puppy though and she’s a big baby 😂

[@nestaannjarrett4948]

We had a schnauzer beagle mix. Emily lived to be in her 20's

[@zoechia1536]

I have a miniature schnauzer named Princess

[@coveyssteve]

Good breed, and highly attractive if properly groomed.

[@fuckinglame7450]

Amazing dogs! The judge herself is gorgeous and I applaud her choice. My own breed is the Australian Cattle Dog, mines topline isn't straight sadly (she actually has a sadly very prominent wheel/roach back but that's what I get for going through a BYB) The australian shepherd had an AMAZING coat and lovely paws. I've seen far to many aussies with coats that are super "fluffy" It's super nice seeing an ACD that isn't obese too! At our local shows they're all "fattle dogs" and I can't imagine trying to pass one of those through nationals.

[@laetitia7174]

On peut pas choisir ils sont tous magnifiques

[@j.louisv.123]

Finally a Westminster judge who knows what she's actually doing.

[@LiLmSzDiVa]

I watched this for the border collie, my favorite dog ever. So beautiful.

[@kristenwhite2701]

LiLmSzDiVa perfect for agility. So fast

[@AmyJ_ThaFurryWitch]

Border Collies have always been my favorite breed. Love them

[@kathrynkastner8547]

Love this! We have had two beautiful Bouviers.

[@bolton7961]

Kathryn Kastner congratulations! Bouviers are wonderful dogs!

[@silviac6120]

I happily watch all the other dogs being shown in this category but then I see the German shepherd and I shake my head and sigh. Can't believe they are still showing and breeding this things, it's just too extreme and I can't believe they didn't realize they have to tune it down a bit.

[@spikedbongwater]

Silvia C agreed

[@katesszz]

That specific dog is a little extreme but they aren't all like that

[@ravennas.2736]

Silvia C...I agree. I think the breed was meant to have a straight back. This slope is unnatural and I wonder if it doesn't add to the back problems this breed suffers. It is sad.

[@charityblackwell2331]

@@ravennas.2736 As someone who has back issues at times...my back hurts just looking. 😂

[@aidahehir9429]

completely wrong. The dog looks fine and it’s back looks great. Don’t talk about a breed you don’t know about

[@camburton4109]

Thanks for posting i missed this segment of the show !

[@aj7aj]

Bouviers, bold, beautiful, winners

[@andreamurphy1126]

Love The Bearded Collie. And all of them.

[@bellacapulet1933]

So proud to have a black tri Aussie and a sable rough collie. ♥️♥️♥️

[@tishabyte]

I love that one person "Border Collie!" 36:26

[@COINSINPOCKET]

I like dogs more than people..

[@pepagomezgarcia7775]

I like dogs, cats, horses, parrots and probably all animals more than (most) people.

[@Redhead77]

same

[@spikedbongwater]

we all do

[@emmarose4234]

“Dogs are my favorite people.” - Richard Dean Anderson

[@deborahclancy1512]

The Australian Cattle dog is my favourite

[@debbiemabrey9240]

It must be in the name...Debbie...lol. I love ACD's....mine's name is Prissy and I swear she looks just like Wyatt.

[@mysterymachine94]

They let the “best dog” go first 😉

[@colleenwoods7590]

The Brady family had Tiger which was NOT an Old Eng. Sheepdog. He was a bearded collie but, Doris Day in the movie "Please Don't Eat The Daisies" had an Old Eng. Sheepdog!

[@jessiedonelson8056]

The german Shepard's back and hind legs looked awful !

[@emsnewssupkis6453]

It is disgusting but then the Old English Sheep Dog is also utterly destroyed, how painful to have a mountain of useless fur.

[@roslynaubrey7766]

That’s down to some judge deciding they liked the sloping back look. Completely disgusting.

[@Donutdove]

@@roslynaubrey7766 ur right. with the working line many years ago when we would ‘stack’ them. They saw that and went ‘yes let’s make that permanent’. It’s utterly disappointing and upsetting.

[@sharonleekeim]

I agree, I love the GSD, doing this to such a majestic breed should be banned GSD's should be bred for stability, strength and beauty. those back hocks were practically laying on the ground. Shame

[@itstinymc]

can someone explain why his hind legs are like that? they don't look normal, did human do this? how?

[@gairunnalls8923]

The Sheltie moved beautifully and had a glorious coat it's just a shame, in my opinion, that he has that heavy muzzle that is so prevalent in the American lines. This is not the UK Standard for the breed.

[@justcharlie6038]

Did anyone else notice the sloped back on the GSD? Awful

[@beangelica2540]

GFBC GlenFaughan BorderCollies it’s not awful, he’s clearly not even in pain. They only time you SHOULD worry about the slopes back is if the dog is walking on his hocks. That’s the breeding you need to stay away from.

[@justcharlie6038]

@@beangelica2540 Sorry.... But compared to the working line GSD it is awful in my opinion, granted there has been improvements in the breed but it still hasn't recovered enough. All working lines compared to show lines are very different but that's just how I see them. Who am I? No-one.

[@crashandfriends]

The sloping back is a result of the way the dog is stacked. Clearly you can watch the dog free stack in a more natural position and its back is fine. Stop.

[@justcharlie6038]

@@crashandfriends the dog isn't stacked when trotting sooooo?

[@Kelsie154]

@@justcharlie6038 No, but it is pulling on the leash slightly and moving in a trained gait. Outside of the show ring, the dog likely moves very differently.

[@adelissahunsley]

I hope a herding group win wins best in show in 2020. Down with terriers lol they win too much! Finnish Lapphund is my fav from this group. Reminds me of the keeshond with the eyes! love the expression.

[@rca6576]

Waiting year upon year for an Old English Sheepdog to win this entire show!

[@conniecrawford5231]

R Ca You obvious are not “ shownpeople” or you would remember Ch Fezziwig’s Ceiling Zero. I adore that dog!

[@MaliMali1212]

The German Shepard 😓😓 who specifies the requirements.... 😭

[@amyappleby7984]

Oh the GSD what has happened to them.....sad.

[@sunleo6161]

Amy Appleby In Central and Western NY, we have Gsds with NO hip dysplasia or slanted back. Bc they aren’t overbred...CNY has some of the best GSDs ive ever seen & no one up here even realizes bc they arent dog obsessed compared to some other areas and states.

[@Bellurdan]

@amy appleby idiotic breeders and show standards happened. No idea how having clearly handicapped dogs is considered good or beautiful. Sad.

[@Bellurdan]

@jessie9384 they are on board on paper but not in practice. There are several reasons like money (established famous breeders would lose all their breeding stock), influence (big names breeders that promote this), etc.

[@beangelica2540]

Amy Appleby He’s fine as long as he’s not a hock walker then there’s no problem with a slanted back.

[@justcharlie6038]

@@beangelica2540 Again yes there is. It is structurally wrong.

[@maryannangros8834]

All herding dogs are brilliant! And very people oriented.

[@Brozain]

WOOO LAURIE AND WYATT GOOD JOB!!! Wyatt is literally the coolest dog. So chill at the shows.

[@mdbritton9424]

Brozain yeah so proud of her

[@dakotajara9676]

Border Collies are so BEAUTIFUL!!! Ugh i can't wait till i can get one, one day

[@conniecrawford5231]

Dakota Jara Remember, they are considered very active dogs and are probably the most intelligent breed. They need an outlet, a “job”, or they will be very destructive. Research the breed- they are not content to be lapdogs!

[@gmagain]

You better have sheep

[@spottheborgcat9653]

Connie Crawford is right. I was blessed to have one for 10 yrs, You have to give them something to do.

[@amyappleby7984]

Good for the BDF they are great protectors!

[@kellystafford5240]

Obsessed with that Australian! 🥰

[@goingslightlymad7172]

GSD, Collies, and Shetland Sheepdog. Three way tie! :)

[@ryanbabcock400]

That Merle Rough Collie is absolutely beautiful.

[@bellasmysingingmonstersent6317]

37:11 Oh My Fur And Whiskers (small gasp) I’m Late I’m Late I’m Late!

[@suecastillo4056]

GREAT coverage ! Love the breed AND name of the dog on screen! Thank you so much!!❤️🐾🐾🐾🐾🐾🐾❤️

[@lisal4824]

All the dogs were great but go Team Bouv!!!

[@michelekramer9722]

Australian Cattle Dogs, Aussies, German Shepherds, Malionis, Collies, Corgis

[@AnonningAnon]

Agree with all of those, they were majestic.

[@Drea_A]

Justice for Elsa!

[@christhepuppy8220]

37:11 Being a mechanic in all a

[@jadewelling3459]

I wish they’d upload the full group judging every year on KZbin ;-;

[@luv_a_nurse8960]

I need the Hound group i love my Basset

[@sweatpantsprincess3239]

I've been mixing up Australian Shepherds and Miniature Americans for years. How did that happen? :O

[@marcgagnon4389]

Ii can’t believe it... in November 2020 I will be a owner from Quiche Kenel!

[@mdbritton9424]

Yay Laurie !!!!!! Wyatt is gorgeous !

[@Tibbieman1]

The Brady Bunch dog was bearded collie. NOT an OES.

[@miadowson9404]

Australian shepherds are my dream dogs

[@kgill1133]

The Aussie was so pretty 😍

[@emmarose4234]

WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO UPLOAD THE 2020 GROUP JUDGING??

[@Redhead77]

Love this, but wish CC was available

[@phoenixdavida8987]

I agree

[@raphaellima3344]

Please let me know why there are no videos from all groups?

[@meepy4470]

omg i want the old english sheepdog so CUTE

[@allfiner]

Tony isn't as lovely as Rumor, but he's still a gorgeous dog. One could tell he's very active, as the breed requires, and his easy gait had poor Ken struggling to keep up.

[@PawsAndPurpose.]

It’s not Ken it’s Kent and it becasue the dog would have not gone wobble I know Kent in real life he is really nice

[@ghostpine]

Rough Collies !

[@Hugatree1]

I absolutely love the herding and working breeds. One word to the wise though these dogs are not necessarily meant to be or want to be housebound pets. Years ago I foolishly disregarded all warnings against owning the Australian Cattle Dog, big mistake! My cattle dog was up before dawn and made sure everyone else was up, from puppyhood she jumped or climbed every fence no matter how high, dominated or attempted to dominate the other dogs in the house that towered over her, and made trouble unless she was well occupied. The cattle dog is a fantastic dog but like some terriers not for the faint of heart. I have never given up a dog before but I managed to find a home more suited to her temperament, lots of acreage with a more submissive male Aussie Shepherd that enjoyed her company. It really is not enough to love the breed we really do have to consider the dogs long term happiness and our ability to adapt to their needs.

[@tomindenver1331]

You are so right. We have an Aussie Cattle Dog-the red heeler variety-who was captured by a rancher here in Colorado. She was probably feral but he believed she was born in the wild. She was two or three years old when he finally trapped her. When he pulled her out of the trap, he thought "She's not so bad" and called Colo cattle Dog Rescue, which is how we got her. For the first seven years, she required two three to four mile walks a day, a good bit of wrestling in the evening and lots of defined jobs. Finally, at age 13, she is starting to slow down. :) I have never known a stronger dog, physically or mentally.

[@Hugatree1]

Tom In Denver they are incredibly intelligent determined loyal and unbelievably strong I fell in love with the breed from ‘ The Road Warrior’. Your dog is so lucky to have been saved and find a home with you!

[@lexwithbub]

I'm glad they at least mentioned the border collie isn't suitable for house pet.

[@nunyabidness8656]

The Sheltie is the perfect mix between house pet and farm dog in my opinion. Of course, just as with all herding and working dogs, lots of exercise is needed!

[@roughhdiamond168]

I agree. I'm forever telling people the same. I own black Russians and people see them and think teddy bear. They don't realise they're a working breed and require high maintenance and lifelong training.... The other day I got told to give my poodle a hair cut 🙄😂

[@Bessie-vb9yw]

Isn't it funny? I don't know any of these dogs and already I know I love them and that they would all be the sweetest things. But yet when I'm out and I see people, I just don't wanna know them and probably gonna hate them when I start to hear them open their mouths to talk. Urgh!

[@conniecrawford5231]

Bessie Most dog lovers feel just like you ! Dogs before humans - dogs are loyal and faithful and don’t cheat on you orcon you. Dogs rule! We are kindred spirits! Stay happy and healthy, my friend!

[@Spnlgrl1985]

I liked the Pumi and the Buhund!

[@phoenixdavida8987]

I love Pumi too! Haven't seen the Buhund yet.

[@larciabella]

The Belgian sheepdog's original name is the Groenendael.

[@sunykidd5971]

Beautiful Australian Shepherd ❤️

[@desolateink7729]

Is the corgi penalized for his Lil mlem he gave the judge? I hope not

[@MichelleSK6]

That was the cutest thing 😭 I sure hope not.

[@ravennas.2736]

Desolate Ink... hope not. That was charming and so totally Corgi! You get a kiss or a very vocal opinionated Corgi. Part of their charm💕

[@michaelwoods1879]

Do these handlers have to learn the breeds there working with?

[@tanneranthony475]

yes they do

[@michaelwoods1879]

Thank you for that

[@conniecrawford5231]

michael woods Professional handlers have to be familiar with each breed’s “ standard” so they can show them to the best advantage. Judges have to pass written tests on each breed they want to be able to judge. These people are professionals. I have shown dogs since the 1950s when dogshows were lesser known to most people. You had to GO to the show- there was no television coverage then.

[@conniecrawford5231]

michael woods Fun fact- top winning handlers get bonuses for each win the dog gets andcan earn well in excess of $100,000 a year, just like too winning my jockeys make huge dollars.

[@matthewlawler9706]

amazing

[@charityblackwell2331]

Dear AKC, The bulldog requires C Section... The Neapolitan Mastiff...eye surgeries.... The GSD....has exaggerated hind legs...its painful to watch them walk. Please speak up...everyone respects you....if you phase out these extremes dogs will live better quality lives. 😊👍 On another note: i have a personal bias against anything that requires artificial insemination. If it cant mount...why reproduce it? How is a dog gonna work and it cant even get laid without human intervention?

[@personanon2879]

AKC has nothing to do with that. The BREED CLUBS write the standard

[@sherryluna8325]

Pemberton Welsh Corgi,

[@PACK-ge5gu]

The Vallhund was the best

[@OdeMelody]

There needed to be a mudi...

[@kenyahunte7706]

Why do they always choose the same type of breeds for choosing the winner ...why not go with a different type of breed that's not known to win as much ...you get tired of looking at the same type of dog that always win

[@uniqueusername_]

Why do they hold the treat in front of their faces?

[@Greyandgreenfeathers]

Because the dog will be judged a little better if giving an alert and cheery expression. That way they can judge how their ears sit (how close together, how far forward, how pointy or round Etc) and the shape of the dogs eyes etc

[@conniecrawford5231]

uniqueusername_1024 The handlers want to have that alert expression so the judge can see ear placement, head space, etc- it’s called “ baiting.”

[@renaarmstrong2838]

I don’t understand how people chose their clothes for the dog shows. It’s like who can be the most outrageous. Weird clothes.

[@TheLoobis]

How much do those dog showers make? I could do that.

[@personanon2879]

They PAY money to show. Entry fees cost

[@larciabella]

She missed the Belgian breeds!

[@ankitgomes3398]

Victoria Stillwell should be the judge

[@bordercollie1140]

Vic stillwell shouldn't be let near any dog of any kind.

[@samanthaw8634]

Ankit Gomes ew no. She’s trash at anything dog related. I wouldn’t let her within a mile of my dogs.

[@suehelms906]

German Shepherds belong in the working group not herding.

[@conniecrawford5231]

Sue Helms I agreed with you- they used to be in the Working group. Probably AKC decided the GSD belonged in the Herding group because it has “ herd” and “Shepherd” in its Americanname. Of course, in the U.K. The breed’s name is “ Alsatian “ .

[@gmaureen]

@@conniecrawford5231 In the UK the name was changed to Alsatian during WWII. The dog was popular in the Alsace region and used in the war by everyone (French, Germans and Brits) so it was just easier not to refer to them with the name of the enemy.. In 1977 the UK (officially) went back to calling these dogs German Shepherds....their original name.

[@bolton7961]

I wish that nobody had to like chop off part of a dogs tail just to get points in dog shows(I don’t necessarily know the rules in this but I see stuff like the Bouvier Des Flandres tail is like that which is now mostly for show and in other dog shows this happens a lot) I think that getting rid of some or most of the tail shouldn’t be needed :(

[@personanon2879]

It's not necessary to win

[@aarintrunzo6855]

So many people do not realize that the sloped back in the German Shepherd is not the problem, in fact it has a functional purpose. The real issue is when GSDs have a roached back or a "straight" back which are what result in the joint problems. Also, the slope of a dogs back will always be exaggerated in the 3 point stack seen in dog shows. It is true that American Line German Shepherds are very different from the German Line GSDs, but be aware that any dog that makes it to Westminster has beautiful conformation. Make sure you actually know what you're talking about before you speak as though you're an expert.

[@ravennas.2736]

Aaron Trunzo.. I'm not speaking as if I'm an expert but from childhood having known a breeder who had police reserving her puppies because they were so well bred and they never had the exaggerated sloped backs.

[@charityblackwell2331]

Perhaps in all other areas its perfect but if you are defining beautiful as clearly exaggerated hind legs...many will disagree. Too many things are being defined as beautiful in modern times that seem to not be in the best medical interest of the modern dog. Im not a vet but if i was id definitely examine the standards of the breed and the ethics thereof.

[@arianag2675]

The GSD doesn’t have any problem moving...

[@PawsAndPurpose.]

THANK YOU 🙏 That’s what I’m trying to say, but no one seems to agree. I’ve met Kent before and he has wonderful dogs. He even helped me finish my female.

[@KatyaKaterina76]

Я тут почитала комментарии. Немец действительно ту мАч!

[@bmanz8117]

B.S. politics. They all could win.

[@phoenixdavida8987]

All dogs are winners!

[@areinke272]

I love it when people who know almost nothing about breeding dogs comments on how they look. E.g. the GSD.

[@annnaluiiisa]

THE CORGI WAS ROBBED :(

[@pythagorasmathematik9585]

I want that Trump as a president.

[@blakewahl2151]

c

[@christopherwilliam2593]

You have to Learn how to minister with out LIEING

[@chrislewis6488]

French fries 🍟and French dressing anything else meh

[@MrThirstysuperior]

LOL! Only in Western world

[@paolacorona9764]

That German shepherd could not walk properly. I would not be surprised if he actually had hip dysplasia...What have they done to them? Do you remember the actual German shepherds?

[@PawsAndPurpose.]

Did German Shepherd is walking properly

[@pederfrednes5352]

briardbouvier des flandresSpanish water dog

[@itstinymc]

what a shame! that german shepherd dog didn't choose to be born that way. that should be illegal

[@PawsAndPurpose.]

It’s not illegal and it wasn’t the owner fault. The dog chooses to walk that way different dogs have different comfort zones.

[@sherryluna8325]

German Shepard

[@katesszz]

*EVERYBODY COMPLAINING ABOUT THE GSD* it only looks that way when it is stacked. It is also trained to tun that way. The dog is in no distress, it is just the way it lands on its feet. It is perfectly natural.

[@justcharlie6038]

You are contradicting yourself. In another comment you said that a few breeders started breeding that way and then the KC changed the breed standards.... So you have no clue and are standing up for the justification of unhealthy breeding and selective breeding.

[@katesszz]

@@justcharlie6038 i was talking about the way it started out. They didnt used to be bred that way. Now that AKC changed the standard, people are breeding and training them to look like that

[@erinmcchesney275]

@@katesszz AKC doesn't change breed standards, the breeds parent club does then the AKC approves it.

[@katesszz]

@@erinmcchesney275 yes. So that means AKC is in control

[@charityblackwell2331]

A dog has to "land on its feet" to work.... If it cant land on its feet properly it cant work.

[@leeanneklitz5687]

The motionless horn lately separate because insect microregionally risk following a smart babies. fragile, ahead bomb

[@That1GGirl]

lol trump

[@bmanz8117]

That voice, that guy is always announcing. So robotic, and script read. So annoying and total no personality.

[@iizy_ll]

The German Shepherd legs are supposed to be like that 🤦🏻‍♀️ that the true German Shepherd body