Growing pines from seed, part 3

[@pesoverwatch9324]

I am working on something similar but with a Douglas fir (or is that the same?) Very nice tutorial, helps me a lot, and being from Belgium, I understand every word you are saying (not too fast spoken, normal understandable words). Best tutorials ever in my opinion. Thank you!

[@TerryErasmusbonsai]

Wow, thanks for your very generous compliment. Most appreciated. Glad the content helps you. 🙇🏼‍♂️

[@wreagin1]

I love this type of content. I'm applying the same techniques to develop local loblolly pines

[@TerryErasmusbonsai]

Thanks great Mark. And the techniques work for you?

[@wreagin1]

@@TerryErasmusbonsai yeah loblolly is a double flush pine just like jbp. I haven’t used the wire caging but I’m similarly growing sacrifice branches and keeping inner buds active. Other bonsai enthusiasts have worked with them to good effect and I’m always down for an experiment.

[@BONSAIenCORTO]

So great job..... I see your videos and having clear concepts only can be made clever works.... Thanks for sharing.

[@TerryErasmusbonsai]

Thanks so much for your continued support and comments!

[@mokdog666]

Great video terry! Is that a size 6 or 6.5 training pot? Love your videos , such a huge resource!

[@LindseyVanzilen]

This is very informational, but i find the title of the series a little misleading? They're videos on what you're doing with trees you've already grown previously from seeds, it doesn't actually give any information on what to do with pine seeds themself.

[@TerryErasmusbonsai]

Sorry you feel that way Lindsey. Please read this as it deals with the process from seed. I wrote it a few years ago: www.bonsaitree.co.za/blogs/tree-talk/japanese-black-pine-from-seed-year-1

[@norbertcornel3773]

Do the Japanese black pine grow in Tropical climate ?

[@TerryErasmusbonsai]

I don’t think they will perform well but they may grow and stay alive. They need a cold period for dormancy. However I understand they do grow JBP in Taiwan so I guess it’s possible.

[@jaybolinger2865]

How old was this tree when you made this video

[@TerryErasmusbonsai]

It was 4 years old Jay.

[@richardnathandaniels2534]

I'm so glad I recently found your channel! Great videos! I have a couple of silly questions. Sorry. I'm still very new. What is the meaning of "seedling cutting"? I know what a seedling is and I know what a cutting is but I don't know a seedling cutting. Also why do you need to water till the water comes out clear the first time? I know it is to get rid of the dust, but why do you need to do that? Thanks again!

[@TerryErasmusbonsai]

Hi Richard. I’ve linked to previous content where I show the process of seedling cuttings. It’s a young seedling which you make a cutting of, it then creates new roots more evenly and also much closer to the needles. You need to wash out any dust from the media or it collects at the base of the container. It will compact and roots will not grow in that space.

[@richardnathandaniels2534]

@@TerryErasmusbonsai thanks so much!! I really appreciate it.

[@richardnathandaniels2534]

@@TerryErasmusbonsai Sorry, but here did you link that? I don't see it on the details under the video and in the video I just see the link to thickening the trunk (which is also a great video).

[@TerryErasmusbonsai]

@@richardnathandaniels2534 not sure. Should be in the pines from seed playlist.

[@richardnathandaniels2534]

@@TerryErasmusbonsai Awesome! Thanks. I will check it out.

[@SpaceH3r0]

8:44 Unpopular opinion and why I’m very conflicted: I love your work and Bonsai in general but I can’t help and squirm watching you cut away at that root mass. It’s easy to admire the beauty of bonsai but we overlook what the tree had to go through to look that way. Trees are living organisms capable of experiencing stress and pain. Engaging in practices that intentionally subject trees to prolonged suffering for the sake of human enjoyment raises questions about our moral responsibility towards the natural world. We cause harm to the very organisms we seek to admire. I just feel like there has to be another way…

[@TerryErasmusbonsai]

Thanks for sharing. When you come up with that other way please do let me know.

[@SpaceH3r0]

@@TerryErasmusbonsai I'll do my best.

[@TerryErasmusbonsai]

@SpaceH3r0 ok.

[@bulebonsaibatam1758]

Good Morning Terry, I have about 20 JBP Mikawa seedlings 6 months on from seed. I want to move them from their grow bags and start the process of wiring and root trimming. Is it to early to do this? The trees are healthy. Max

[@TerryErasmusbonsai]

Hi Max. 6month, at this point I would suggest waiting till next season to do what you want. It’s too late now in the season to prune the roots or if you do you will need to care very well for them till they become established again. Wiring after only 6months is too soon, I would wait till next season.

[@bulebonsaibatam1758]

@@TerryErasmusbonsai Thanks Terry.

[@rosariocurcuraci8294]

Bonjour ou trouver vous les pots terre cuit que vous utilisez merci pour les vidéos très inspirante.

[@TerryErasmusbonsai]

C'est avec plaisir, merci d'avoir regardé. Les pots que nous vendons sur notre site mais ils viennent du Japon. Voici le lien, mais je suis sûr que vous pouvez le trouver dans votre magasin de bonsaï local peut-être ? www.bonsaitree.co.za/collections/clay-development-pots/products/japanese-marukou-terracotta-pots

[@TheBonsaiZone]

Really nice work on this tree Terry, it's going to be a beauty!!

[@TerryErasmusbonsai]

Thanks so much Nigel! Last episode this week coming and it’s possibly the best of the 4 trees I have shown.

[@TheBonsaiZone]

@@TerryErasmusbonsai Looking forward to it Terry!

[@tysteyn6885]

You gonna be at the CRAB fest end of Oct?

[@TerryErasmusbonsai]

Unfortunately not! We will be in Stellenbosch for the garden week festivities there which was booked before the announcement of this years CRAB event.

[@tysteyn6885]

@@TerryErasmusbonsai oh great, that sounds like fun, so I hope you enjoy. Will have to catch you another time then🤙

[@mcbabs7495]

Votre travail a été très intéressant comme toujours, un grand merci à vous pour le partage!

[@TerryErasmusbonsai]

Ah, merci beaucoup, je suis content que vous le trouviez ainsi. Je vous en suis reconnaissant.

[@dermo1981]

Thanks Terry. Excellent- as always!

[@TerryErasmusbonsai]

Thanks so much DR!

[@jiijino_bonsai_ch]

good video👍

[@TerryErasmusbonsai]

Thank you!

[@alfredgrechbonsailicious4827]

Simply bonsailicious. Thanks for sharing.

[@TerryErasmusbonsai]

Thanks so much Alfred. Much appreciated.

[@Martin-jt3zu]

Hi Terry, just a question on the seedling cutting method you employ, can I do similar with Mugo / Scotch pine? Also, the root section that you cut off, will that continue to grow? I'm very anxious to try this for the first time, as I have only a few seedlings , haha

[@TerryErasmusbonsai]

Hi Martin. I should imagine you could use this technique for any species of tree, not sure pine. No, the root section will not grow, you throw that away. I will do another video on this in a month or two as I have seedlings developing now.

[@juniperus.itoigawa]

Thank you for your videos Terry. Does this information also work for other pine species ?

[@TerryErasmusbonsai]

Pleasure Hendrik. Like what species please?

[@victortaboada2058]

@@TerryErasmusbonsai Curious...do you have any experience with Pinus ponderosa?

[@TerryErasmusbonsai]

@@victortaboada2058 sorry, no. We don’t get this species where I live in South Africa.

[@victortaboada2058]

@@TerryErasmusbonsai Thank you Terry. Yes, Ponderosa is the most widely distributed pine species in the US (particularly the mountains in the west of the country) and, although it is indeed used as bonsai due to its contorted trunk and attractive barking, the needles are extremely long and challenging to reduce. Different schools of thought recommend different ways of achieving needle reduction: (1) reduce water and stop fertilization during growing season to reduce the elongation of the forming needles, or (2) water and fertilize heavily to promote back budding so the tree will have to distribute resources between more foliar mass, resulting in shorter needles. This is quite a growing debate.

[@juniperus.itoigawa]

@@TerryErasmusbonsai im reffering especially to pinus silvestris. Ihave a bunch of young plants started from seed. Theyve grown pretty well this year and the next season would be the time to get a first wiring done.