Growling Sidewinder and me in A-4 Skyhawks over Vietnam vs MIG-21 | DCS World

[@LongShotChannel]

Hey guys. My store: www.longshotstore.com/ Join me on Discord: discord.gg/drNE6bT In this Eagle Dynamics: Digital Combat Simulator video Growling Sidewinder and me are flying the A4 Skyhawk over Vietnam and fighting some Mig 21. Hope you guys enjoy!

[@peterweller8583]

Thanks for the show.

[@mikethompson2650]

I grew up during the war and worked on F4Es in the 70s while in the air force. I have been surprised by the little "Bantam Bomber" every time I see it. It is so small and so light that you wouldn't think of using it as a fighter. It doesn't have air to air radar since it really is an attack plane intended for clear weather bombing with or without nukes. But the low wing loading makes it so perfect for dogfighting that the Navy used it for years in their Top Gun school. The Blue Angles also used for a years. I remember that there was a black pilot, cannot remember his name, the the man was well over 6 feet tall and had to squeeze his frame into that plane. Lovely little bird.

[@vinniemoreno704]

Sir;. have flown it online countless hours and indeed it's a great plane to fly.

[@L0u1z]

commander - "who's up there?" radar man - "longshot and GS" commander - "great....longshot and GS......"

[@LongShotChannel]

lol,

[@oldmanfunky4909]

I'd be saying great too! They kick ass!

[@hippoace]

lol top gun ref?

[@L0u1z]

@@hippoace yep...lol

[@couchfighter]

@@hippoace YES! GOOSE SAYS IT ABOUT VIPER

[@member5488]

My uncle spent three years patching up Marines in Vietnam as a Navy Corpsman. Once he commented to the effect that seeing an "A" over head was always a huge stress dump because it didn't matter if it was a -1, -4, -6 or -7, they knew they'd be taken care of.

[@brianwright9514]

Man, I can't wait to see an A-6 in here. My favorite attack jet, bar none.

[@spoopyboi1005]

@@brianwright9514 a6 intruder

[@privatelisting366]

@@spoopyboi1005 That is the right answer. A-6 is vastly more capable and survivable. Ask John McCain.

[@duncanwilson9533]

@@privatelisting366 You'd have to get a Ouija Board out to ask him.

[@fjspitz]

Love you guys, flying together! Keep going!

[@LongShotChannel]

Thank you buddy, we will

[@roijoi6963]

Like in the Rome series, when Lucius Vorenus and Titus Pullo are fighting together, they just can't lose.

[@shengyi1701]

well done. The only criticism would be the historical inaccuracy of missiles used. Mig-21s should be armed with AA-2 Atolls but seem to be carrying the AA-8 Aphids. The A-4Fs (they seem to have the wider intakes) are armed with AIM-9Ls (All Aspect) instead of AIM-9B or Ds. But interesting fight …. One of you going low and causing the MIGs to lose sight of you visually and clutter could affect the Jay Bird radar. Then you pop up and surprise them as they think they are only dealing with a single A-4. North Vietnamese also used this tactic but the GCI in this mission seem to be asleep.

[@privatelisting366]

This should be a required lesson in dissimilar aircraft BFM. Well done Gentlemen. Well done.

[@-fulcrumer]

A4 is a good looking aircraft 😁

[@commandergeokam2868]

I agree too i like it a lot

[@ghost1-594]

soshmeksy

[@danield.7359]

I like that realistic sounding radio communication. Great storytelling too.

[@lwrncschmchr]

So cute how GS was worried you wouldn't have his six in time.

[@markfrost8745]

Longshot should have replied the same as an Air Force pilot did when one of his comrades jumped into a furball with 8 - 9

[@markfrost8745]

MiGs. The pilot got on the radio when the other pilot was screaming for help "Shut up and die like a man."

[@EndTimeDreams]

Great, loved it. The New Zealand airforce (RNZAF) used the scooter successfully for 31 years. I cannot believe 20 years have passed since they were decommissioned! We had sidewinders on our A-4's from 1974. Kiwi A-4's got a few kills on Sea Harriers when the HMS Invincible came to New Zealand after the Falklands war. Got a major upgrade in the 1980's with the APG-66 radar, jamming pods, ferranti 4510 HUD and maverick missiles.

[@MongooseTacticool]

The mod has some nice NZ skins included, the dark green camo paint us a nice one.

[@rednaughtstudios]

@@MongooseTacticool IRL that dark green was an amazingly good camo shade for NZ. In the 90's I recall an A4K flying low down Otago Harbour with the peninsula behind it and it was very hard to track. In the end it was only the shadow that gave it away.

[@rednaughtstudios]

I'd be interested to hear about those 1983 SHAR vs A4 exercises as the RNZAF A4's wouldn't have had a radar equivalent to what the SHAR had at that stage. The A4 would be at a distinct disadvantage in spotting the SHARs at distance. The only things I've heard are A4Ks vs RAAF F-18s and of course they only mention the time they "shot all the F-18s down, bombed the airfield and went home for tea and medals." I'm sure the RNZAF probably extracted the most out of their A4s they possibly could but I feel this is a suspiciously one sided version of events and I'd like to hear if this was a result that could be reliably repeated.

[@ghostrider1827]

those A4 skins are pretty dope... nice vid LS..

[@LongShotChannel]

Thank you buddy

[@roijoi6963]

Yeah, I liked the lipstick on the lips of the intakes, but seems a little hi-viz for combat. Sure did look nice though.

[@ricbish]

Nice! Haven’t seen many people use the A4 as a Mig killer so it was refreshing & something new! Great job!

[@LongShotChannel]

Thank you, glad you enjoyed

[@jasonshuster4748]

A USN A-4 shot down a MIG-17 with zuni rockets on 5/1/67

[@ricbish]

@@jasonshuster4748 yeah I remember reading about that years ago! Pretty wild!

[@weissrw1]

That was exciting. I puckered up when GS realized he being sought at!!! I know it's make-pretend, but it seems so real.

[@LongShotChannel]

Thank you, glad you liked it

[@bazej1080]

This Vietnam era high visibility camos looks awesome! I'm waiting for more jets from this era in DCS. Great content.

[@avramnovorra]

This was a nice mission to watch, and now im daydreaming for the day DCS gives us the A-7 Corsair 🤘

[@tupahutuokoneiswife3972]

15% battery left, gotta call mom...[notification] nice LS GS fight....mom can wait! Lol

[@tupahutuokoneiswife3972]

Nice video! Great shooting and team work...phones about to die...gotta find charger 😏

[@LongShotChannel]

lol you are awesome buddy, thanks

[@LongShotChannel]

Thanks again

[@paulf1389]

And that is why you Never, never, leave your wing man. Great fight Longshot. Hey, you and GS make a great team.

[@LongShotChannel]

Thank you very much

[@Dirtypool40-mk2]

I had an instructor at ERAU that was an aggressor squadron commander. He said he flew the A-4s in the 70's and dogfighting was MCA / riding the stall with the stick pulled to you and basically turning using rudders only. Nothing in the inventory could out turn them that slow.

[@Pablo668]

Nice flying. Having GS as your number 2, that puts him a bit behind you while he is carrying A-A missiles. I'm not sure you thought that through.

[@privatelisting366]

You are not familiar with modern tactics. This isn't WWII/Korea.

[@Pablo668]

@@privatelisting366 yeah, I was actually making a joke, insinuating that GS couldn't be trusted not to do a blue on blue just for fun.

[@fiesty161]

The A-4 is not the most handsome jet that the U.S. created. But you did a great job flying it.

[@rocketremity9571]

but i think it is one of the more handsome ones, at leas from that era

[@JD-tn5lz]

If you ever saw them flying a stone's throw over your head then passing a ridge inverted, you'd change your opinion. Middling looking on the ground, gorgeous in flight. Loved Marine CAS in those.

[@LongShotChannel]

Thank you

[@JETZcorp]

The ones without the late-model spine look great. They look so good in Top Gun. The way they flew made the Tomcats in that movie look like diesel trucks chasing after sports cars.

[@roijoi6963]

@@JD-tn5lz Rolling inverted approaching a ridgeline and then pulling hard for the valley floor was very common in Vietnam for both A4 and F4 pilots. F105s and A6s, not so much.

[@oldmanfunky4909]

That was exciting! Great video! The A-4 has become so good!

[@LongShotChannel]

Thanks

[@paulcooper9011]

That's impressive attention to detail. If you go to 52 seconds you can actually see the rollerons on the sidewinder.

[@ohalrighthen4301]

There was a brief moment where I thought GS was going Two Moron style and Fox 2 Longshot.

[@SVSky]

Makes you wonder how things would have panned out in Vietnam if A-4s had been used in the Air to Air role.

[@christopherwilson2785]

About the same so far as 21s go anyway. The migs really only boom and zoomed. They weren't interested in dogfighting. The a4 was way too slow to d go much in the air to air role.

[@roijoi6963]

@@christopherwilson2785 ...yet it fought supersonic TomCats for decades at Top Gun, and downed a lot of supersonic aircraft in the IAF. With missiles you didn't need speed back then, but the F4 Phantom was available in large numbers, so for the USAF in Vietnam, it worked out better to have the A4s do attack missions.

[@tunaconsuma]

@@roijoi6963 important to remember that missiles were (and still are to a lesser extent) incredibly unreliable, more likely than not you wouldn’t have a working AAM out of your two sidewinders.

[@roijoi6963]

@@tunaconsuma No, they aren't. Thousands have now been fired in combat and they are more than 80% reliable.

[@luciusvorenus9445]

Very nice. Love the Scooter!

[@trendinglive2489]

The LCA Tejas, Tejas 1A Generation 4+ aircrafts and LCH Helicopters are really impressive for the Army, Air Force and Marine. And it's Airtime cost is 20 to 40% less than the Competitors. It shows the dual life efficiency of the Machines. The HAL ALH Rudra Helicopter is also best in class, economical and lethal beast.

[@nicogpn4814]

Nice one!! and glad to see you landing as well

[@moistmike4150]

Although designed as a ground attack aircraft, the nimble Douglas A4 Skyhawk was a great little fighter at a pinch.

[@MrDozerdee]

Great flying guys , very enjoyable..thank you .

[@LongShotChannel]

Thank you

[@DerredmaxTRIAX]

That was beautiful!! Love the A-4...

[@myplane150]

Never thought much of the Skyhawk as a dog fighter but it sure was a capable little airplane. ☺

[@wilsonrawlin8547]

LS and GS. Two of the baddest fighter pilots in DCS.

[@stevemc6010]

2:21 That's a funky sounding noise

[@madeconomist458]

Those are some interesting-looking forests in Vietnam

[@JGW845]

VMAT-102 was a training squadron. Their aircraft would not be equipped for combat missions nor were they ever deployed in-country. An A-4 could carry two AIM-9's but these guys seem to have an inexhaustible supply on them. Then there is the mismatch of the much slower A-4 vs the Mig-21.

[@robertm8401]

Twin pylons for a total of 4 AIM-9s would be nice to have on those nimble birds. Great shooting from you both! I screenshotted an image of the two A-4s on they way back to base, wallpaper material. 👍😁

[@LongShotChannel]

Glad you liked it, thank you

[@johnmclean6498]

Yeah...Me too!

[@grantmiller6570]

Good shit. Love the A4.

[@Michaelkaraz]

Wow good one longshot, and shabbat shalom

[@LongShotChannel]

Shabat shalom brother, thank you

[@gregkostensky8756]

Had to come over check you out love when you put growling sidewinder in his place

[@LongShotChannel]

Lol, thanks. I love it too. Glad you liked it

[@samueljones8244]

Great teamwork. Request for more wings over vietnam. 👍

[@LongShotChannel]

Thanks

[@animalanimal7939]

Excellent. Like peas and carrots

[@kahlrhoam6769]

-3 MIG21’s would be a very expensive day for the VC! 👏🇺🇸

[@woiace]

Those Sidewinders were definitely not the B, C nor D-models. Likely to be H or L. Moet Sidewinders used during the Vietnam War were not very all-aspect.

[@clockworkorange3628]

Great team always a good time.

[@LongShotChannel]

I appreciate it, thanks

[@s3viking214]

I like the hight pitch but deep lock tone

[@shannonnezul4903]

This mod is great! Hope it can get to official levels one day. Either way great looking capable bird

[@christianferrera7771]

Hi LongShot. just a heads up. VMAT squadron would not usually be employed in combat. the T in VMAT denotes a training Squadron. The VMA stands for Marine Attack Squadron.

[@LongShotChannel]

But they have a cool skin, thanks man

[@christianferrera7771]

@@LongShotChannel Can't argue with that!!!

[@larrysteve7272]

How come you guys are using the old version of the A4 mod? A new version has been out for a very long time and the sounds, textures and FM are overall just better.

[@lindebr]

Would the Sidewinders of that era track on such an acute angle of attack?

[@ivomendonca2468]

Ah if the pilots had this precision with the missiles of that era....

[@roijoi6963]

Operation Bolo in A4s instead of F4s. Cool! 761 F4s lost in Vietnam vs 197 A4s. Not the same mission type, but still an impressive record for the A4.

[@sgt.grinch3299]

Fun video. Nice team work.

[@lohrtom]

Were those era appropriate sidewinders?

[@markstott6689]

It's not often GS sounds so nervous and LS has to be the saviour. It made for a delightful change. Was it because GS has little faith in the Skyhawk or LS? I'd hope that it was the former?

[@foodog3026]

I built that very same A-4 when I was ten and won second place in the state fair! 1/48 Tamiya...then my little cousins got a hold of it 🗿

[@LongShotChannel]

Cool. I like building models every now and then.

[@benwelch4076]

I really enjoy these mission videos from the past, its like being in a documentary or a witness to a piece of history. Cheers.

[@JGW845]

This scenario was completely unrealistic.

[@gtdcoder]

Scooters! Nice plane.

[@LongShotChannel]

Yeah, and i think its the best MOD in DCS

[@jq7169]

You just earned yourself a like and a subscribe. Keep up with the great content.

[@LongShotChannel]

Thank you very much

[@bradcampbell7253]

Any OV 10 s to fly missions with?

[@joaoluc]

which server are you guys playing?

[@stephenfowler4115]

A-4's weren't used for air-to-air they were for ground attack. They were typically escorted by F-8 Crusaders or Phantoms.

[@Hornet135]

Thanks captain obvious.

[@merlemorrison482]

Didn't see too many A4s out there, but sure saw a bunch of F4s

[@scottcam536]

VMAT-102? Training squadron in combat?

[@TheCrimsonFckr]

What radio mod is that you're using? Love that background noise effect.

[@LongShotChannel]

Its my editing

[@nathanreece1743]

“Defendid” the missile? It’s DEFENDED.

[@tomas7158]

Happy friday 👏

[@LongShotChannel]

For you too!

[@DikkeBetha]

GS had a bit of a "brown underwear" moment there éh :-)

[@strambino1]

A4 vs mig15! They don’t have the mig 17 yet but the mig 17 and a4 over Vietnam would have made an interesting dogfight.

[@montys420-]

Australia used A4G's or F's as Fighter's and attack aircraft off our carrier HMAS Melbourne and the French wouldn't honor the contract for mantra air to air missiles during the Vietnam war so we couldn't deploy our Mirage 111/0's as Fighter we sent our Canberra bombers there though.

[@philipprichardbergmann5055]

What do you use for the radio transmission effects?

[@LongShotChannel]

Its an effect i put in Premier Pro and edit that effect to have a radio like sound

[@dioad1739]

Great kills and a great video GS and LS unbeatable team keep it up Longshot.

[@LongShotChannel]

Hlad you liked it, thanks

[@dampflieger]

Is this on the Vietnam War PvE server?

[@saltzen961]

Okay , that got saucy .

[@PedroFelipeOliveira23]

Awesome! Love you, guys!

[@LongShotChannel]

Thank you, love you too

[@marcodifruscio3707]

Love the A4 not a really gorgeous bird but got the job done

[@skinnyflea2628]

Was this on the DCS Vietnam server? It’s one of my favorites along with Cold War.

[@LongShotChannel]

No, just a quick mission

[@inlinx]

Skyhawk's max speed was only 800mph while mig21 was mach 2.

[@moistmike4150]

Who needs F4 Phantoms when ya got Skyhawks!!

[@davidmuir6849]

Great clip Just wondering what map you used in dcs Thanks Dave

[@LongShotChannel]

That was the cauceses (or how evere you write it)

[@davidmuir6849]

@@LongShotChannel Thanks

[@STARAXE1A]

Just wondering when DCS will have F-8 Crusaders and F-4 Phantom IIs available? It would be more accurate, I think.

[@katherinespezia4609]

Crusader is in early development but is confirmed to be coming. So far nobody is working on a Phantom (that we know of), and for all we know there might never be one in DCS.

[@MongooseTacticool]

One day Heatblur may bless us with a Phantom. I hope they have VR and HOTAS in my nursing home 😂

[@kenhelmers2603]

Nice work :)

[@LongShotChannel]

Tahnk you

[@toolmakerbest1584]

You both make top rate channels! 👍👍

[@LongShotChannel]

Thank you very much for the kind words, i realy appreciate it

[@wanhapatu]

Nice editing!

[@LongShotChannel]

Thanks

[@nunucello]

Great job 👏🏻

[@LongShotChannel]

Thank you

[@ianpopp87]

Great vid. Subbed

[@LongShotChannel]

I appreciate it, thanks

[@chrisdouglas4427]

Would be awesome to see you two in a pair of F4s sidewinders and sparrows 2v4 against MIG21s

[@LongShotChannel]

I wish we will have yhe F4 at some point in DCS... sadly, we dont..

[@chrisdouglas4427]

@@skyhorseprice6591 And if they want to make it more challenging, do it like in the early Vietnam War. With no gun, or the externally mounted gun pod 🤪

[@Roebuck325]

Nice save my dude

[@LongShotChannel]

Thank you

[@IronMan-xm3lg]

Hey nice vid dude you guys are the best......!

[@LongShotChannel]

Thanks 👍

[@chanman819]

You guys carrying modern Sidewinders? Some of the shots looked to be outside the cone of what even the late Vietnam War era Sidewinders could manage

[@commandergeokam2868]

I like this plane a lot this mod is very good too

[@LongShotChannel]

It is

[@vinniemoreno704]

So we are Pilots now right? We couldn't fly a jet after doing this?

[@marcoafonso7084]

Great video. So serious. Not like in GS' channel. lol

[@LongShotChannel]

Glad you enjoyed

[@bradcampbell7253]

Rearward plane is tail end charlie

[@cookieschocolate626]

I tride downloading the A-4 and dammm is it hard

[@romain5967]

No words other than this is f**king awesome quite describe this video... More pwease :)

[@LongShotChannel]

Thank you, i appreciate it

[@romain5967]

@@LongShotChannel sooooo....you'll do more? :)))))))

[@LongShotChannel]

For sure

[@nymerie]

Great! Now hit Alpenwolf's Cold War server and let's see you survive at least one fight. Taking on AI MiG-21's is like playing War Thunder kiddo -__-

[@b2tall239]

You should open up on GS as payback for all the times he shot you in the face on his channel. :-)

[@couchfighter]

TRIED TO DOWNLOAD DCS...MY SHITTY COMPUTER WAS LIKE nah!!! so warthunder it is....what a dissapointment.........Oh well at least I can go fly

[@SuperTrb0]

You would have been smoked if you were using the Aim-9B like they had back in the day. 10G overload and a weak seeker head.