GRUBBY Raises His APM With Visage & Xcalibur! - Dota 2 A to Z

[@tokdo4960]

Xcalibur explained some really big brained ideas. This felt very relaxing and information dense!

[@dekoygaming]

Xcalibur is right, we enjoy watching grubby because it remind us when we are new to dota and having a lot of fun until darkness and insanity creeps in.

[@Lazrbeams]

Xcalibur was such a good coach. Would love to see more.

[@chesh1re_cat]

"It's like a knock knock joke with a deadly punchline" I love Grubby, the little wordplays always brighten my day

[@sreeval2684]

shortcuts: *exist xcalibur : -refresh -refresh -refresh -refresh -refresh -refresh

[@naizokaiju]

he's just used to type. the shortcut exist right around this mid year and he has been typing that for 9 years.

[@RandomPerson-di6mn]

😂😂😂

[@DissarayJay]

We all do that the shortcut didn't exist, we are so sure to typing it's irrelevant that they added it in so fucking late.

[@matoyart9136]

I cant believe that he cam from herald 5 to archon I in just a month. Pretty impressive improvement.

[@AspieOld]

I mean, he IS a top wc3 player

[@justincapalbo6938]

There's a lot of skill transference between games Grubby has been playing all his life and DOTA 2. He is cited on Wikipedia as being the most successful WC3 player of all time.

[@DissarayJay]

Not that impresive, he's good at RTS and he has already played 200h+, the averedge person is in crusader, it's not at all impresive that he's better than the averedge . I'd be disappointed if he was honestly, I was quite surprised he calibrated initially so low.

[@soldieroftruth77]

He’s gotten some of the best coaching in the world. Not to take anything away from him but most people would climb too

[@GratDuForloradeArgumentet]

Well.. the GOAT wc3 player of all time. Recognized as the best player of all time, with the best record of all time. I suspect nothing less :P I remember when I played Wc3 and was amazed over his ladder score of like 1300 wins and 200 losses or something like that. It was insane stats.

[@batteredskullsummit9854]

Ahh Visage, one of the micro-heavy heroes. I suspect Grubby will catch on to him quickly enough given his RTS expertise

[@rdubs1705]

Visage is a hero I almost never see anymore. Back in the Dota1 days he was on the field every other game...but that was a time when there was like 40 heros hah. The good ol days

[@letterstoalice]

in divine they spam it

[@Happyrral]

Visage is one of the more contested heroes in TI

[@DissarayJay]

Brah, are you crazy, hrs being spammed and contested in almost every game. He's in atleast 1/5 games and banned on 2/5

[@rdubs1705]

@@DissarayJay I guess I just miss those games. These days I only play a match here and there and rarely play ranked because I'm old haha. But no I'm not crazy, I just rarely see Visage 🤷

[@rdubs1705]

@@letterstoalice I'm not even sure what divine means haha. I'm just a casual player that use to play Dota 1 a lot back in the day

[@SoulBro12]

Oh jeez I remember playing this dude on the original WC3 where it had the Spirit Wyvern model from the Rexxar Campaign

[@ArminHaba]

and do you remember it from the time where the ultimate gives 2 birds that could stun (like the current ultimate), or still from the time where the ult gave 5/8/11 weaker birds?

[@Scarlettshardd]

@@ArminHaba I remember those weaker birds, I would feed them to enemies all the time

[@therichardsmith]

I may be wrong, but wasn't his old E something like a 20% damage return aura and he was top pick carry?

[@ArminHaba]

@@therichardsmith for some time, ye... grave chill (q) was basically the same, w was an orb that was similar to searing arrows but healed you when you lasthitted a creep with it, and e reduced incoming damage. I think it also had some weird aura effect (heal allies for part of damage taken or so). And yes, it was played as a "carry", but built with mekansm. The 1 to 5 role system did not exist back then though

[@Cedisdead]

Thanks Steve, amazing video guys!

[@icata12345]

it's funny how he says that visage loses lanes early yet in scrub brackets he spams W's and 2 shots agi cores and supports like a chad xD, atleast my visage experience is that people can't player against W sometimes

[@knightmeh]

Yes! You play visage! Fun hero

[@mateomoreno331]

28:26 ... I'm yelling Timber

[@grubbbby]

You better move

[@Alexyrion]

Xcalibur seems like a really cool guy!

[@stoywarshockofficial9984]

Xcalibur is a good coach for seasoned but low rank dota players who wants to climb mmr using Visage.. But unfortunately not a good coach for newbies like Grubby

[@Joel2Million]

not gonna lie, the explanations in the demo were so bad that grubby would have learned more doing his normal solo demo

[@01010101010111001012]

Xcalibur is awesome, really nice coaching. I learned a lot, hope to see him coaching Grubby again!

[@martingarry5359]

Aaaaah Visage,, the Hero tat could owning the game under 25 mins(smurfplayer/spammer)

[@xahlier]

Vizajist

[@cabbage_cat]

Visaj

[@junhyeonglee863]

Another RTS style hero... Hard to play but also fun to play

[@batteredskullsummit9854]

@Grubby I highly recommend rushing a Vladimir's Offering for higher damage and sustain. Any aoe buff item is worth considering for Visage

[@m.h.4907]

He has Wraiths Pact

[@batteredskullsummit9854]

@@m.h.4907 yeah I spoke too soon before they got to that part lol

[@louiskusters9452]

@@batteredskullsummit9854 You didn't get to 15:30 before commenting? lol

[@batteredskullsummit9854]

@@louiskusters9452 nope lol

[@DissarayJay]

it never fails to amaze me how Grubby can lose his birds randomly from poor micro.... literally that's his forte!, how xD

[@UlfMTG]

its just not something you usually have to worry about playing dota, you kind of get used to controlling a single hero, especially as a new player when you have so many things to worry about

[@KiiroSagi]

You have to remember he'd been learning several different heroes. He said it before that his map awareness also suffered when he switched to a new hero.

[@lori977]

The problem is that he has no idea how threatening things are and what enemy spells do, even when he does he has to stop and think to remember. Also he has to pay attention to basic things when controlling his main hero. Once he gets trough those things his micro is going to shine.

[@osterbuuny3083]

And then not even notice, that's the best part.

[@oguzcanoguz5977]

I mean, he literally did entire jungle with one bird on 10% hp and did not lose it because of his micro. He mostly lost them to towers, because his mind did not register towers as very dangerous. That is just game knowledge and internalization lacking, nothing to do with poor micro. This was a spectacular first visage game, visage has one of the steepest learning curves in dota. The weird part is that , grubby usually has good first games with very complex or hard to learn heroes, whereas he sometimes is just very bad with simple heroes. Like he did a 8 spell combo on his first invoker game but could not hit a combo with Kunnka.

[@CUXOB2]

Yo i had the most epic game against a hacker (instant bkb, autohit spells) and i am now waiting 10 hours for the replay, but it's still not up and i can't see the stats. What is going on with dota?

[@carlobunagan6681]

Daxxak visage carry

[@josedasilva6885]

gg

[@damonblack1495]

I thought the guest was a little... can't find a good word for it. I guess they can't all be siractionslacks. But I was surprised to hear he is also a steamer.

[@FawadNaeem898]

He is a pro player.

[@simonsimplerain7466]

Hello everyone!

[@Thanatos-XIII]

Well, looks like team won one more again, while grubby afk farms

[@kylekelley2778]

lol you know nothing of dota

[@este.bahn92]

Man what a terrible coach. This wouldve been hard to keep up as an experienced player, and he completely forgot Grubby is new...

[@murmurrrr]

He gave great advice. He just doesnt realize how bad Grubby and the other players are.

[@este.bahn92]

@@murmurrrr He gave good tips, but never from the perspective of Grubby being NEW (not bad... yet). Like the STUN > resummon > STUN combo, Xcalibur said it like Grubby had experience with the hero.

[@DissarayJay]

He's not used to talking, he never talks or coaches, hrs a pure mechanical player that stays away from social interactions. Extremely high skilled but inept at understanding how to teach.

[@Khayul]

I'm a very new player with sub 60 Games, and while I obviously wasn't playing while he was coaching, I feel like this is the coaching that helps a lot more. A lot of chat and some coaches teach like all of the concepts are completely new, and many of the "tricks" are basics to many MOBAs and RTS, for example the TA Attack-move trick to hit fast moving heroes. I like it when people who are trying to teach something completely Info-dump with all of the relevant context like Xcalibur did. You're obvioulsy not going to be able to practice it all at once, but while playing you've at least heard some tricks and might be able to use them. And it's not like Grubby is new to MOBAs or controlling multiple heroes, he just doesn't have the "automatic knowledge" many even herald players with 3k games have. For example I have no Idea what is a counter to what, since many of the heroes I've seen only once, if even that, which also means I often die due to not knowing how much burst an enemy can realistically put on to me, but that doesn't mean I have no Idea how to push, nor does it mean that I don't understand how cutting is useful. I have a few friends who also have played like 3k+ DOTA Games, and while they can often tell me what a hero does, they have little understanding of special tricks, or even "Game winning mechanics" - which I feel like XCalibur taught relatively well.

[@faithnfire4769]

@@Khayul Watching 'intermediate' guides used to be how I learned years ago, sometimes it's better to try and pick up habits from far better players through their actions rather than directions. Don't need to be told to farm, but you do need to be exposed to the decision making cause that's the important bit. I agree with the info dump, but in this case I think there's a lack of replaying that you normally would get to make such an immediate flood useful. If Grubby was replaying each hero 2 or 3 times, this type of teaching would be better I reckon. Guess it's sort of the issue where he really needs the Slacks style "FARM, PUSH, GO IN" as well as the more technical advice as a lead in to better mechanics. Just not enough game sense yet

[@Abrakadabra-e9k]

You disrespected the Zerg. Stopping watching you forever.

[@jraz6102]

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