Lies You Believe About Davy Crockett

[@GrungeHQ]

Which of these surprised you the most?

[@STho205]

None. I read his autobiography of David Crockett. Well done synopsis. He did combat the Red stick Creeks twice in the 1813 to 1815 period, if you believe the autobiography (a political memoir meant to lead to more success). He joined a company of"Spies and Scouts". When The Tenn Vols crossed, he participated in the early battle of Tullaseehatchie. Specifically a fight at a Creek farm cabin. The cooked potatoes story in the later Alamo movie is lifted directly from that account. It seemed in the book to have turned his stomach, so they portrayed it that way. After he rejoined in 1814 to fight the British at Pensacola and Mobile below the "Conaker" Conechua River....they arrived at burned out Fort Mims after Jackson had driven the British from Pensacola. Crockett's group of hunters were attached to a backwater campaign on NW Florida to make sure the British didn't come up behind Jackson as he defended Mobile and New Orleans that winter. There was only one encounter with hostile Indians and the army commander was able to convince them to go home by a man on man wrestling match with their commander. Much as Crockett is portrayed in the Florida chapter by Disney...against "Ole Red Stick himself". But William Weatherford (Red Eagle) had already surrendered to Jackson the summer before. It was just a bad of Creeks that had been employed by the British against the US troops defending Mobile Bay in Sept 1814

[@Hiddensecret9]

Crockett was indeed a politician, known for his bold stance against President Andrew Jackson’s Indian Removal Act, which ultimately cost him his seat in Congress. His political career was marked by a desire to stand by his principles, but it also revealed his ambition and the challenges he faced navigating the rough world of frontier politics.

[@STho205]

He mostly opposed Jackson's economic and anti banking policies. You'll read jabs at Jackson and him removing "them deposits" in his autobiography The Disney movie made a big dramatic issue of it...he simply voted against it and ticked off his constituents.

[@kurtwillig4230]

His name was David. The "Davy" thing is a Disney creation.

[@dgm2485]

Not true at all. There are newspaper stories from the time referring to him as Davy. Look it up.

[@David-yw2lv]

He hated Davy,and corrected people who called him that.I also heard Theodore Roosevelt felt the same about being called Teddy.

[@paulhomsy2751]

@@dgm2485 The paper used his nickname, not his real name which was David.

[@dgm2485]

@@paulhomsy2751 what exactly is your point? I'm not disputing that his name is David. What I'm saying is it was a name used in his time. It wasn't a "Disney invention."

[@ljjones2464]

He didn’t like “Davy”

[@transplant-f3p]

It sounds like someone who follows their principles is doomed as a politician.

[@stevecook413]

Yes, ... caption obvious 😅

[@JohnJones-hh8cs]

Seems that way mate

[@equine2020]

Having moral principles does hinder you. There are a few who are above the majority.

[@jeremyn6825]

Rip Mr. Crockett, William B Travis, Jim Bowie, and all the patriots who gave their lives at the Alamo. We still remember!!!

[@Visigoth1952-ld3zo]

The Americans at the Alamo had agreed to become Mexican citizens and to adopt the catholic faith , and no slaves were allowed in Mexico , and slavery is what that war was about .

[@jeremyn6825]

@Visigoth1952-ld3zo Please learn correct history. The Americans wanted Texas to become an independent country. Slavery was a civil war issue, not the war at the Alamo.

[@Visigoth1952-ld3zo]

Wrong , Slavery was abolished in Mexico when the Alamo happened southern slave owners like Austin wanted to make Texas a slave republic. Slavery was an Issue in 1776 when the majority of southern delegates voted to keep slavery and keep the all men are born free BS in the constitution, The Mexican War had all the Civil War generals as young officers

[@Visigoth1952-ld3zo]

@@jeremyn6825 You better learn some American history .Mexico was free from slavery after Spain was forced out . These Americans had agreed to become Mexican citizens for free land, they were traitors and treated as such

[@Visigoth1952-ld3zo]

@@jeremyn6825 You better read a history book on this subject, Americans agreed to become Mexican citizens for free land, and no slaves were allowed in Mexico. Most of the Americans were southern men . who saw slavery as normal

[@michaelcascio6346]

The fact that hewas at the Alamo and stayed tells you all you need to know.

[@Visigoth1952-ld3zo]

He hid after the battle , Mexican troops beat him to death , fake hero

[@starflakey]

not like he could leave

[@arch3088]

@@Visigoth1952-ld3zo That's a lie. He surrendered and was killed anyway by the Mexican Army.

[@arch3088]

@@starflakey He was given the choice with all the rest of the volunteers. He chose to stay.

[@Visigoth1952-ld3zo]

@@arch3088 They were offered surrender. they rejected, So the BLACK FLAG was raised with no mercy, all would be killed ..

[@donaldjacques7962]

A lot of people do not consider disney movies a source for historical information 🤠🤠🤠

[@rogerross6583]

They are wrong! There is host of real history throughout the five episodes of the series. Not muss like this.

[@bardyjones5759]

All those cabins shown in the beginning from David Crockett State Park, are now gone. The Hurricane Helene flooding on the Nolichucky River took all of that away and the campground too. Closed till further notice, which I’m guessing will be about next summer. I went by the morning of the flood and the old cabin was still there, but the water still came up ten more feet!!

[@williamfleckles]

Thanks for posting.

[@AmatureAstronomer]

I know about DAvy Crockett. He killed a bar when he was only three and he was king of the wild frontier. They said so on television.

[@mikeyates7931]

And later on , Cotton Hill stole , Santa Anna's wooden leg and traded to , Mexico in exchange for a driver's license - and we all know that television would never lie to us 📺

[@johnking6252]

The line at the end of the movie " Secondhand Lion " sums it up . He really lived. 🙏

[@rongarrett1366]

Walt Disney took a few liberties with history.

[@soundersiren07]

A “few.”

[@rosskardon7195]

There were also Mexicans who fought on the side for Texas independence. For example, a soldier in the Mexican army under Santa Ana found the body of his dead brother after the Battle of the Alamo. This Mexican soldier was allowed to give his brother a Roman Catholic funeral.

[@Rick-jf6sg]

The Esparza brothers.

[@williamaustin1]

True, one, José Toribio Losoya was a Tejano defender of the Alamo who was born in one of the houses along the Alamo compound's West Wall. He joined the garrison and died fighting for Texas during the final assault on 6 March, 1836.

[@TylerD288]

Traitors to Mexico.

[@FerretJohn]

"The only real question is whether you believe in the Legend of Davy Crockett or not. If you do then there should be no doubt in your mind that he died a Heroes Death. If you do not believe in the Legend, then he was just a man and it does not matter how he died." - Worf, son of Mog.

[@TylerD288]

The House of Mog has been disgraced for three generations. You have no standing here. Long live the House of Duras!

[@odysseusrex5908]

It should be noted that de la Pena, who had, of course, never seen Crockett, does not say any of the five prisoners identified themselves as Crockett. He only says he knew one of them was Crocket merely because the man was tall and good looking. Hardly a positive identification.

[@unclecreepy4324]

When legend becomes fact print the legend.

[@mikeyates7931]

The Man Who Shot , Liberty Valance

[@unclecreepy4324]

@@mikeyates7931 Hey another movie buff right on. But I actually think it was said before that movie.

[@mikeyates7931]

@unclecreepy4324 I didn't know that , thank you for telling me

[@paavoviuhko7250]

There's no room for lies or factual truths in any childhoods fantasy heroes.

[@allengreg5447]

I always get him confused with Daniel Boone. Which one defeated The Swedes at Waterloo?

[@cbuk8691]

The whole mountain top made my childhood thing a lie :-) We moved from Washington state to Jonesborough TN a few years back. His birthplace is about 10 miles from here. I was disappointed at best when I saw it was in a valley next to a river. LOL

[@TylerD288]

Most of the American myths I learned while in grade school I have found to be lies. Why? To con us all into believing America is infallible, when really it's been a killing machine since the day it was founded to steal resources and land from other nations. American is not a country, it's just a business.

[@earlleeruhf3130]

Fess Parker played Davy Crockett in the Disney series, later he played Daniel Boone another famous outdoorsman. Since Parker dressed pretty much the same in both shows, including wearing the same hat I still get both men mixed up. Thank you Parker and Disney.

[@mroilcat-b6x]

One thing's for certain: he died as a hero, as did the other 184, brave men all. Just think: the world would be much different now if not for the Alamo. No Republic of Texas, then no state of Texas, thus no Arizona, New Mexico & southern California that the U.S. got from Mexico when they tried to take Texas back, thus no USA, as we know it, and no "From Sea to Shining Sea". And yes, they were the heroes of legend. bless each and every one...

[@TylerD288]

You're a savage, but I grew up with savages so I'm used to your ridiculous and barbaric mindset.

[@Jay-j6m2l]

He killed a bar when he was only 3!

[@MrJuvefrank]

That's the way he spelled it; he left the E. out of bear.

[@churchbryan35]

Your picture on your thumbnail is Fess Parker and that is him playing character Daniel Boone....NOT DAVEY CROCKETT...😅😂

[@pucmahone3893]

Somebody didn’t do their homework!

[@Nickifoster-hl3ux]

Fess parker played Davy Crockett in the late 50s in the walt Disney show.

[@Visigoth1952-ld3zo]

Fess PARKER played both Crockett and Boone

[@fredericdouglas3574]

​@@pucmahone3893Yeah, the "homework" would have revealed that Parker played both characters.

[@ljjones2464]

“You may all go to hell, and I will go to Texas” David Crockett.

[@roncarpenter7240]

Crockett had some respect as a writer of the Southwest Frontier Humorist genre. His stories can be found in some anthologies. Also, he is reputed to have famously remarked to his constituents after losing an election that "I'm going to Texas and you can go to hell." (Quote might not be exact, but it's close.)

[@bhartley868]

There are about nine versions of Crockett death, all different. The surrender ones are quite dubious, and should be thrown into the trash . Fact is we will never know. The Mexicans did not know Crockett, from any of the other defenders, some knew he was there but most did not. The 2004 movie was a big flop and lost money, in good part because it defamed Crockett, without evidence . See Groneman book, on the death of Davy /David , Crockett for an in depth study...

[@jeffreyrobinson3555]

Dickerson placed him at the low wall.

[@um9272]

This is Daniel Boone !!!!

[@SPQR748]

I heard that a Mexican officer 👮 wrote that Jim Bowie fought to the death however Crocket surrendered and even begged for his life but was executed.

[@miltonrose1638]

I totally believe that he Kilt a bear when he was only 3.

[@chrisardern4594]

Oh no dont tell me he didnt design the famous beaver hat.

[@BayouDiddy]

When i was a kid i refused to eat Mexican food in his honor. Or was it Italian.

[@Visigoth1952-ld3zo]

Did you eat Squirrel brains like Crockett

[@BayouDiddy]

@Visigoth1952-ld3zo Of course.

[@Visigoth1952-ld3zo]

@@BayouDiddy You must have mad squirrel disease. you know Squirrels are fancy rats of the rodent family

[@BayouDiddy]

@Visigoth1952-ld3zo Yes, we call them tree rats. Lots of protein.

[@Visigoth1952-ld3zo]

@@BayouDiddy VOMIT food ,roaches have protein

[@Messiisthebest724]

I sure it’s not Kurt being reincarnated into a college professor

[@44hawk28]

There is no certainty About Davy Crockett's death at the Alamo. Precisely because there were at least three other survivors whose names exist on land around the area years after the alamo. Locals who watch what was going on speak of the man who spoke very well to Santa Ana and was allowed to leave after promising that he would never engage in Warfare again which would be consistent with Masonic tradition of which Crockett and Santa Ana both were brothers of. Some years later, David Crockett's signature appears on land that he was granted in Alabama where he eventually died. This signature is clearly consistent with he's known writing. Those claiming that it is not, mention that the C is a little bit out of shape. But if you've ever tried to actually use a quill pen, you might understand plus the fact that he was several years older at the time of his signing of the document.

[@Jack_Lee66]

The deed in Alabama has been disproven

[@TylerD288]

Nah, he 💩his pants at the Alamo right before they killed him.

[@FerretPirate]

What I'm hearing is that Davy Crocket was the Bard.

[@michelleromani2870]

Susanna Dickenson saw Crockett’s dead body, with his “peculiar hat” next to him. She was there.

[@coppertopv365]

1:05 i will admit as a kid i was slightly confused with Washing DC an Washing State, an Thought the Washington Red Skins football team was in Washington State. Wouldnt have been a bad thing just to have had Washington DC, state of Franklin, state of Jefferson an Renamed Washington state maybe after the 2nd president- Adams or 4th President- Madison, or 5th president- Monroe.. or Monticello after the Monticello Convention, and After Washingtons home. Or after Harrison who was the 23rd president of the United States who made the Washington, a State from the Oregon Territory.

[@RonTodd-gb1eo]

A new country needs to create new heroes.

[@TylerD288]

To bad these were all made-up stories.

[@RonTodd-gb1eo]

@@TylerD288 Give it a few more centuries and nobody will know which stories are true.

[@r-leanmygirl-gj2kt]

What the hell is your point? ...Just another day of raining on someone's parade?

[@TylerD288]

Yeah, the truth sux, doesn't it?!

[@everypetravideoever8065]

DAVIE crockett is from tennessee , change my mind.😅

[@douglasanderson147]

Servived the initial fall only to be bayoneted the next day by orders of Santa Anna

[@fas1242]

I think he always called himself David

[@Hal-k8p]

Yep. Not once was he ever called Davy. That is total Hollywood.

[@katherineknapp4370]

🤔

[@televisor9506]

He much preferred to be called David, not Davy...

[@Hal-k8p]

Yep. Not once was he ever called Davy. That is total Hollywood.

[@LongdistanceRider22]

Did he die at the Alamo? was he a Mason? Did they save him?

[@arch3088]

Clown

[@anthonyfoutch3152]

You mean he didn't kill a bear when he was only 3?

[@rosskardon7195]

Had it not been for the Indian Removal Act of 1830 and the tragic result of the Trail of Tears, Andrew Jackson would have otherwise been a great American hero! However, I can still in good conscience enjoy listening to the Johnny Horton song "The Battle of New Orleans". This is because the Battle of New Orleans happened before Andrew Jackson was one of our most terrible Presidents, because of he did as President to Native Americans. If the world of the early 19th Century had personal computers, smartphones, the internet, texting, email, and the many 21st Century communication technologies we take for granted today, the Battle of New Orleans would never have happened, because of how the War of 1812 was already over. Just imagine Andrew Jackson smashing his his laptop computer and throwing his cellphone in a fit of rage at not being able to get revenge on the British for what happened to him during his youth! This idea would make a great skit for Saturday Night Live.

[@paulashmore4521]

Only president that paid off the national debt. No other president has done it .

[@mikeboone4425]

The lying was done by others.

[@Frank-pi2gz]

HE DID NOT DIE AT THE ALAMO, ...HE WAS AT THE OPENING OF DISNEYLAND, IT'S ON FILM. 😊

[@kevinyoung8651]

Talk about 3rd hand information...

[@edwinhageman9377]

And TODAY? ?Which Lie/Lies Do one Believe in modern today's times? Blue pill vs. Red pill? ETC?.

[@brandoni241]

Black pill...

[@tobiojo6469]

So Davy Crockett was not born in Tennessee, I’ve been lied to.

[@jwoldsr1]

I WAS A BOY OF 11 OR 12 WHEN THE DISNEY MOVIE CAME OUT. EVEN THEN, WE ALWAYS THOUGHT IT WAS FICTIONAL ENTERTAINMENT, NOT ACTUAL HISTORY

[@johnwatters6922]

TURN DOWN YOUR hearing aid

[@jamstagerable]

He did pick his nose and put it in his pocket... ?

[@Paladin1873]

"Killed him a bear when he was only three." What nonsense. Why my Dad wouldn't even let me shoot a gun until I was five.

[@davidwesley2525]

That's Called a TALL TALE , Adult Fairy Tales . 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅

[@Marc816]

walt disney bull______

[@jazzmusician46]

At least if you’re going to try and debunk Davy Crockett, don’t use the actor who played the role of Daniel Boone! 🙄

[@Nickifoster-hl3ux]

Late 50s walt Disney had the weekly show Davy Crockett played by fess parker.

[@GeneMThompson]

Don’t know much about TV history, huh? Fess Parker played both…

[@michaelhotz7118]

@@GeneMThompsonyes he did

[@michaelhotz7118]

He also played Tarzan

[@Visigoth1952-ld3zo]

@@michaelhotz7118 His friend was Jed Clampant of the Beverly hillibiiles

[@jonroesler8155]

"Following his principles," having died at the Alamo, defending the right of Texians to own slaves.

[@TylerD288]

💯

[@Visigoth1952-ld3zo]

Mexican Soldiers found Crocket hiding in the Alamo. they beat him to death,

[@Jay-ik1ge]

Never heard that before. What is your source?

[@Quaferro]

​@@Jay-ik1geHe's just taking 💩.

[@Visigoth1952-ld3zo]

@@Jay-ik1ge Mexican Army archives

[@Frank-pi2gz]

@@Visigoth1952-ld3zo That's curious, did he have his name stitched in his underwear? Did they ask themselves "DID we just beat up Daniel Boone or did we beat up Davy CROCKETT?" 😖

[@Visigoth1952-ld3zo]

@@Frank-pi2gz They did not have underwear back then

[@blackjack4905]

Sorry bro. But this shit must be said little girls are being killed by this app 😔,,

[@GerhardSteinmayer]

Davy who?

[@TylerD288]

Jones locker