MC (P) vs RoyaL (T) on Neo Sylphid. Want to support ArtosisCasts? / artosis I'm probably LIVE right now, check me out: →Twitch: / artosis
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@ublade827 ай бұрын
Someone buy this guy an electric blanket He's always got chills
@greenwave8197 ай бұрын
not that kinda chills lol
@Pico1417 ай бұрын
@@greenwave819 no way
@ImAzraa7 ай бұрын
I mean he's in canada tho ..
@travishayes60377 ай бұрын
he sounds so dumb when he says he has chills.
@sagacity10717 ай бұрын
It's all the DRYgoons.
@abstractdaddy13847 ай бұрын
I think another big reason for the scarab damage upgrade (probably more important than the depots) is that with it scv's that are in the area of splash that does 50% damage will be one shot. (50% of 125 is 62.5 and scv hp is 60) There's no doubt this could contribute to a potentially huge amount more scv kills by reavers.
@justincronkright50257 ай бұрын
Biggest thing for me starting to watch more Artosis & tournaments then some StarCastTV & more about 4 years or so ago now was... nobody get's scarab damage. I couldn't believe it before most anyone even started doing it. I accepted that that's what people had come to realise wasn't good on reavers - as mostly it seemed only Snow used them for sufficient durations/on & off in a game. But it is probably the one thing I had thought - everybody has to have this one wrong (25% damage increase in an AoE) as a single use upgrade that doesn't increase Scarab cost, even when I was still essentially an only M.O.B.A. player (for that time). Also I've wondered for some time how much change it would have given the game if it increased/altered the hit-size of the scarab itself too. How the slightest change could change them almost completely.
@Shield_Battery3 ай бұрын
@@justincronkright5025 the conventional thinking is this: it has to do with breakpoints and how reavers are used. primarily as part of shuttle harass, typically they are microed 1 or 2 at a time (but that doesnt change the # scarabs needed to kill targeted units or buildings assuming full damage hits, no duds). So lets take a goliath as an example, 125 hp, 1 armor, no dodge. 2 normal scarab shots to kill. 2 upgraded scarab shots to kill. tanks & turrets need 2. zlot, goon, and reavers, 2. the only thing with worthwhile breakpoint from direct damage is supply depot clusters take 4 shots in stead of 5. and bunkers need 3 instead of 4, but using a reaver alone to kill is so wasteful like killing a pylon, or attacking a nexus. so in essence, yes, you deal 25% more damage, but since you haven't lessened number of scarab shots necessary to kill a targeted unit, you have not reduced scarab cost to kill. reavers can be used in large battles, but only in PvP are they produced for that, for PvT you get it to shuttle harass their base first, then once the have thick turret defense, if any survived, they switch role to pick off army fringes as they push. zerg units die to 1 direct scarab hit except lurker, still needs 2 scarabs upgrade or not. sorry for long answer, but I thought itd be good to give a comprehensive answer to differentiate from moba thinking where damage increase means bigger last hit window 25% is huge. in most cases as currently used, the bonus scarab damage gets wasted in overkill.
@SquallLionhart4093 ай бұрын
@@justincronkright5025 The biggest hindrance is just how long it takes to upgrade it. In matchups where reavers have their time, but get pushed out by other tech (storm drops, arbiters or carriers vs T and just storm in general vs P) having an upgrade that won't hit until nearly 3 minutes after your first reaver pops (105 seconds for shuttle speed, then 105 seconds for reaver damage for 210 seconds compared to 44 seconds of reaver build time, all on fastest) really reduces the use you get out of it. You almost need to go slow shuttle to have reaver damage to not just be a late game upgrade you get because it might help out a bit. 200/200 is also pretty expensive when the deciding factor for whether your reaver kills a bunch of SCVs is whether your shot completely duds or actually goes off. It's for that reason that the upgrade buffing the splash radius would probably just make them a bit better in PvZ and have a rather small impact on midgame PvP. People get scarab damage much more in lategame PvZ at least, where reavers have continuous use due to dark swarm's power. My personal annoyance is how rarely protoss gets shield upgrades, specifically in PvZ where plague is the endgame tech that's going to entirely negate armor for a significant number of units.
@sanaebeast4485Ай бұрын
@@SquallLionhart409 why sc1 protoss hardly ever upgrades shield armor is that shield received 100% damage from any types of attack.
@NecronLordship7 ай бұрын
Mom says it's my turn to post the spoiler blocker!
@spacefuse31087 ай бұрын
And I too approved that you should be the spoiler blocker on this video
@BubberTubber7 ай бұрын
How is Tasteless doing?
@ibandageyou7 ай бұрын
IDK how the comment section figured it out so consistently but you guys are the MVP's on mobile. Thank you!!!
@VladTchompalov7 ай бұрын
your strategy breakdowns really level up your casts
@Medinaxz7 ай бұрын
"I want to remind everyone about MC." The BossToss. The legend. He's great.
@greenwave8197 ай бұрын
looked good for a sparring sesh
@valentinomanontroppo46757 ай бұрын
he was relentless, and never let Royal max out
@josiahroyal7 ай бұрын
love the casts been started watching for brood war 3 months now never played but really enjoy how you describe the game
@abstractdaddy13847 ай бұрын
Best esport in the world!
@ATOQ7777 ай бұрын
Brood War is the best
@EebstertheGreat7 ай бұрын
MC didn't get air armor for his observers and shuttles, he got it for carriers. He didn't end up making any carriers, but he thought about it. Before getting +1 armor, he got +1 air weapons. He couldn't get +2 weapons until he built the Fleet Beacon, which is the only reason to get air armor there. You can see he also got a second forge just for shields, which you normally only do against Terran if you are going for carriers. Then again, MC is a SC2 player, so maybe he just gets every upgrade by default.
@draganpetev46777 ай бұрын
Nah, he definitely was willing to switch to carriers if Royal dealt too good with the shuttles!
@eMbry00s7 ай бұрын
Yeah it's interesting he went arbiter instead of carrier after those upgrades. Maybe he'd only go carrier if he had a stronger advantage? Been a while since I've seen arbiters in PvZ
@Shield_Battery3 ай бұрын
@@eMbry00s ya, arbiters don't have 100% utility in PvZ, since overlords have detect and are abundant, nor do they have units like tanks that are backbreaking to lose in stasis to be killed off later, and zerg mobility helps reduce uncontested damage window from recalls. arbiter extremely vulnerable to scourge, dragoons are terrible at anti muta and scourge ,because they are both "small" flying units, so they take 1/2 damage per shot. so that's why you'll rarely see late game airtoss. while cumulative cost of scourge alone would be high, they are effectively unstoppable. carriers become unusable when interceptors get plagued (just to finish off No Capital Ships in PvZ) Arbiter is not so strange, because it compliments the current army and preserves army tempo, whereas carrier switch is drastic tempo change switching gateway units from main force to supporting force. It would have given Royal the time to stabilize his econ and rebuild his army to dangerous mass again. He could tell he was breaking down royal when terran army became vulture heavy, and tank count continually reset.
@xius01017 ай бұрын
Wow, great game by both players! Such a good back and forth. Thank you for uploading.
@MeteCanKarahasan7 ай бұрын
Really amazing stuff indeed. I couldn't pick a winner for the majority of the game. In fact, Artosis even changed his casting a little during the midgame.
@ferencdojcsak85767 ай бұрын
One of the best, most entertaining and informative matches casted. And of your best cast, if I dare say so. Thank you!
@00Noontide7 ай бұрын
Great cast! Thanks for the good times Artosis.
@jambootful7 ай бұрын
Really enjoying these BW casts artosis, great work and great game selection coming out
@toine10417 ай бұрын
Amazing to see MC playing here. I hope we see more soon
@williamterrill32737 ай бұрын
What a great freakin game. Love these casts and i havent played the game in 20 years
@BobfromSydney7 ай бұрын
I downloaded BW remastered and tried to play campaigns for a bit and thought there's no point going on the ladder to be slaughtered 😂
@goodsport168m6 ай бұрын
Oh i didn't know MC was playing BW! I fell in love with his playstyle when he was dominating SC2 GSL in the early 2010s. Solid job casting Arty!
@LuckyStilet17 ай бұрын
18:28 7 Base Terran vs 7 Base Protoss is winnable for Artossis. You have a chace!
@seraphimconcordant7 ай бұрын
Excellent cast Arty!
@CashMoneyMoore7 ай бұрын
MC what a god. Let's hope we see this guy in ASL soon
@buneuocheng6787 ай бұрын
What a great game from both players. Huge drop from MC which made him had some advantage throughout the entire game. Royal, he also had a strong defensive opening. If he could pull out the Nexus, it would be another story from him. Very exciting and enjoying match up. Thank you Artosis! We are learning every time he is explaining how to play better StarCraft. It was awesome!
@JCMiniPainting7 ай бұрын
Great game and great cast.
@f00dify7 ай бұрын
Wow that was an incredible back and forth game of StarCraft
@cornbeefsandwich28287 ай бұрын
That was nice to watch. Faith in long game reaver skirmishes with a huge bank at 200 vs 200 (with shuttle armor).
@kennysambiase79833 ай бұрын
That was a fantastic game! Highly recommend
@goodguycwyzz47687 ай бұрын
My goodness what a game!! And I love Protoss Shuttle play vs Terran
@2slick4u.7 ай бұрын
8:15 Wow! Sick ! I never knew that !
@dewinmoonl7 ай бұрын
i always enjoyed MC's game in sc2 on how cerebral he plays. not the best controls but his high level plans are always on point. and it shows here.
@Winnetou177 ай бұрын
Now that's a game! I honestly enjoyed this much more than the Rain - Calm games recently. This game was much more back and forth, but, most importantly, I didn't saw/feel any climb-to-the-wall-and-cringe moments (like big mistakes or oversights) in this game.
@paulkruger79347 ай бұрын
wow. wow. wow. That was such an incredibly well played game.
@FlymanMS7 ай бұрын
Such a close game till the very end.
@danieln67007 ай бұрын
Anyone remember when MC game on stage as the undertaker lol. Was amazing
@TRYCLOPS17 ай бұрын
Another idea for a good game to cast would be on a huge island map! Maybe a PvP or a TvT would be very nice or a TvZ as well. The map has to be huge just to force them to go aerial a bit more… would be sweet!
@draganpetev46777 ай бұрын
It sounds good on paper but Protoss crushes air to air...
@TRYCLOPS17 ай бұрын
@@draganpetev4677 well let’s see it then 🤷♂️
@Zraknul7 ай бұрын
Currently that map doesn't exist on the ladder or major tournaments, which is the source of these videos.
@stefanc45207 ай бұрын
Good game!
@dtibvgz84417 ай бұрын
In the end Terran made a drive-by with the Vultures and the Protoss made few fly-by with his shuttles.
@greenwave8197 ай бұрын
do zergs do float-by?
@basimaziz7 ай бұрын
What an AMAZING game~.
@SenseiDonGraham7 ай бұрын
I thought that push on MC's main was a done deal haha
@ZoeCalico7 ай бұрын
What a game that was
@taemeister93027 ай бұрын
What a game!!
@Zraknul7 ай бұрын
Boss Toss looking relentless there.
@danieln67007 ай бұрын
MC Is one of my fav players from sc2. He's fun and one of the only guys back then who actually hard personality
@Svenburchard7 ай бұрын
and he sings like an angel
@Rein______7 ай бұрын
That tank stop spamming, lil tricks, i love that about Brood War ♥
@catra1957 ай бұрын
MC 's control is incredible
@ottomann48467 ай бұрын
Amazing game
@MondSemmel7 ай бұрын
What happened with MC's units at Royal's third around 13:30? An attempted zealot run-by? Or a misclick around 13:19 when reinforcing the army in the center of the map?
@milesg78777 ай бұрын
Protoss onslaught! Great non stop reinforcements
@vook7777 ай бұрын
Do an overlay at the top in the stats bar. So the names you keep using match what is written up there.
@jeremywright58287 ай бұрын
Fantastic game 😊😊
@Bleak137 ай бұрын
wow very impressive from MC
@assault4107 ай бұрын
How long until Idra returns to BW?
@mixalis2957 ай бұрын
Min chul is back?!
@joebazooks7 ай бұрын
epic game
@WigglyWoobah7 ай бұрын
Do Terran EVER win against Protoss?
@Luisin887 ай бұрын
Two cheesers so exciting
@Crud-Stevens7 ай бұрын
Cool Beans
@cl88047 ай бұрын
toast ending up saying the opposite of what he means never change Dxracer
@unoyoyofoo7 ай бұрын
wow so close
@junioraltamontent.75827 ай бұрын
I feel like he could have made more Wraiths instead of all the Vessels and stopped some of those drops as well as sniping that 1 hp Nexus
@synchrotgrd7 ай бұрын
Wow really impressive from MC side to win this game in the end. Its really hard to win with mass shuttles especially on this map. Great game
@greenwave8197 ай бұрын
you can tell Royal was just sparring because he attacked up to the main/2nd long after they were depleted when he easily could have KO'd MC by blasting the left side
@NightHawk929297 ай бұрын
Can't believe royal didn't get that top base. Even a couple of vultures would have done it.
6 ай бұрын
Gg
@cl88047 ай бұрын
honestly, mc looking pretty gud
@mattknaggs44997 ай бұрын
BOSS TOSS
@draganpetev46777 ай бұрын
The Protoss won ??? I want my money back !!!
@Fas7Blas77 ай бұрын
Stop! Stop, stop, stp, sp, sp, sp, sp. 😹
@aimwell70897 ай бұрын
Instead of blindly saying that Royal will roll him, I slap myself for a second and think twice before I speak about our protoss emperor MC so I dont have to end up like Apollo 🤣 in that one interview that legends will remember. (Apollo predicted someone else to win and MC not only won but said Apollo is a disgrace 😂 and ended his career 🤣)
@cl88047 ай бұрын
terran looking incredibly deddered
@cl88047 ай бұрын
ye he ded
@nobshistoryengineering44217 ай бұрын
Protoss outplayed him hardcore.
@tl7637 ай бұрын
Terran over-extended when he pushed up to the top. Very good job by the terran player though, it was close.
@greendragon00097 ай бұрын
MC MC MC MC MC MC MC MC MC MC MC best showman in the league
@sti81167 ай бұрын
Yeah I really don't care that much when you miss one drop :)
@Winnetou177 ай бұрын
I do, but in this case it was ok. It was like the 17th drop, and it had a pretty minor impact.
@Svenburchard7 ай бұрын
why is SC1 such a more fun game to spectate than SC2
@abstractdaddy13847 ай бұрын
1. Art style, graphics, and speed of battles makes it easier to see whats going on 2. Battles are longer, take place over a larger area, and there are more of them
@ZoeCalico7 ай бұрын
For me I think it's the slower pace; it's much more readable from a spectator's point of view, and the strategies develop over a longer period of time. I also feel like there is more diversity of strategies, but I haven't been keeping up with SC2 meta outside of the GSL for the past couple years.
@kiba3x7 ай бұрын
Because there is only one StarCraft.
@St33s7 ай бұрын
Much cleaner graphics in BW.
@Winnetou177 ай бұрын
Less hard counters, and the game is so impossible to be played perfectly (both mechanically and in countering what the opponent does) that it allows more player styles to emerge, purely from what everybody prioritises.
@Anko888886 ай бұрын
MC 🐐
@c0mputar7 ай бұрын
Royal almost took the game due to some insanely cost efficient exchanges. MC was tossing expensive energized HTs and reavers around like they were cheap zealots. I guess MC felt his eco was so far ahead due to some great drop plays, but if Royal had instead taken out the 10 and 11 oclock expansions and parked his tanks, instead of pushing main, MC may have lost. I don’t think Royal had any business getting that close to a victory.
@Zraknul7 ай бұрын
Yeah I think MC was just trying to be in so many places at once he wasn't controlling quite optimally. A few miss timed flanks etc. He did keep that macro up which probably ended up saving the day.
@soju69jinro7 ай бұрын
MC used sc2 meta, macro hard, keep up high pressure attacks, late game non-stop attacks.
@joelb12997 ай бұрын
EZ Terran
@HasteCakes7 ай бұрын
tesagi
@stevengerrrard7 ай бұрын
: )
@JohnSmith-rr8hp7 ай бұрын
Why did Terran resign? He still has 2 mining bases and more SCVs than the Protoss. He can turtle and win the game.
@alan_e_7 ай бұрын
He didn’t have enough money to max out more than once and failed to get his next base
@ivarkreuger30987 ай бұрын
Cant turtle when protoss have all the bases
@registereduser65426 ай бұрын
close game but MC outplayed the terran. so many drops after drops after drops with well placed storms and endless expansions. well played by the bause tauss
@bOstik2107 ай бұрын
I think I prefer the sound mixing on the NASL vods- the game music and sound effects come through a bit louder and crisper, still in harmony with the caster voices. If you could do the same with these I’d appreciate it! Happy to go with consensus though on what’s better
@MrTBSC7 ай бұрын
bit disappointed that there is VERY little BC or carrier play in these casts ... and zerg guardian or devourer.. are these even used? and yea they should have added at least one more robounit with broodwar .. cause most of of the time if its robo it´s either reaver harass or observer support ... not really much choice there as protoss compared to what terran and zerg have ... this is where starcraft 2 did better with general unitpool variety ... one thing i wonder ... is it just me or are default tanks quite strong compared to their SC2 counterpart?
@ghipholane27077 ай бұрын
3rd
@johngelderblom71077 ай бұрын
Sorry Arty, I had to turn this one off, because your scrolling all over the place while zoomed in made me sick
@MoonyD9117 ай бұрын
Surprised that MC chose to return playing SCBW instead of SC2 given his success with SC2. This just goes to show that the game will be dead soon with SCBW still sticking around.
@alexanderlinton69467 ай бұрын
Terran are so boring in TvP
@Szgerle7 ай бұрын
Protoss wins.
@MeteCanKarahasan7 ай бұрын
You got to be Flash to use vultures to defeat an OSL champion.