GTA VC - "Moviedemo" from the leaked sources✂️ - Feat. BadgerGoodger

[@NationalPepper]

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[@memestealer420]

Ok

[@speedstriker1899]

Why ain't you calling spooferjahk to voice your videos?

[@thickboi4304]

Nice

[@S0ulH0und]

@@speedstriker1899 obviously because badger's voice is much sexier

[@jonigod24]

I think it's more like the intro to the game what happens to Tommy as set up for the intro here's why: 1. Tommy kill the target (manager) 2. more people follow Tommy (they knew he is coming) 3. police show up to arrest Tommy 4. the car get busted and Tommy sent to jail.

[@j.murphy4884]

I think MovieDemo was most likely a leftover from early development, either as a demo to show the game off or perhaps to give new developers a sense of how to structure a mission

[@joel9240]

Indeed. I almost wonder if it was developed basically as a way to test various opcodes.

[@Juanguar]

Could be a benchmark scenario like the one in gta 4 ?

[@Embrod]

Maybe some presentation for shareholders?

[@KISSbestfan]

Exactly my thoughts. Vadims explanation sounds more plausible, but its also a possibility, that this could have been a simple cutscene meant to showcase the New game, and its features

[@MrWolfSnack]

The name "MovieDemo" in and of itself implies it is a demo in the from of a....you guessed it....movie (video). What its purpose is could be anything, thats open ended unless some of the old devs show up here in the comments to explain why. but whatever the circumstance it was certainly meant to get investors on board or for the team to show the higher up's the progress that was made (physics and camera tracking work). Also could have been intended to be sent to the department that handles the TV commercials and could have been used as B-roll content to be filler for the commercials.

[@CYPH3RsD0M41N]

My theory about this removed "mission" is that it was probably used as demo footage for some sort of kiosk for game conventions like PAX or E3. From the looks of it, it seems that there would've been audio files to go with it seeing as how most scenes extend more than others.

[@SeriousDragonify]

It's used in The Mugshot Longshot in GTA VCS, dummy.

[@endochronic_]

​@@SeriousDragonify okay gta nerd

[@yuuki671]

​@@SeriousDragonifyshut noob

[@SeriousDragonify]

@@yuuki671 No, dum dum.

[@yuuki671]

​@@SeriousDragonifyeat my meat

[@Speedster04_BRA]

Maybe GTA: VC was supposed to have a PRESS START screen, and this «demonstration movie» was supposed to play if you didn't do anything on the start screen for a while. A lot of games on the PS2 do this, and some newer ones too.

[@M0rinkashi]

It is theorized that it could've been made for an E3 showcase, I think I can see this being the case as R* have done a similar case for GTA 3 during its early development (and actually made it into E3).

[@mark030a]

I miss those demos a lot from the old days. The arcade vibes they gave off were insane!

[@Speedster04_BRA]

@@TaikaJamppa Maybe movie_player is Crash then.

[@Speedster04_BRA]

@@mark030a You're super right! To this day I sometimes leave my PS2 turned on with some random game just for the demo.

[@dra-dragonix1406]

I'm pretty sure the 'moviedemo' mission was just a demonstration/test to see how the mission features worked (car chases, gun fights etc.) for the developers at Rockstar

[@en4bl3d]

Badger's voice + the edit, pure gold.

[@q_taipan]

ok you can get up from your knees now

[@SacilvioSantos]

I like it, but still prefer Gary7MT narrating

[@en4bl3d]

@@q_taipan ㅤ

[@itisfreak]

@@SacilvioSantoslol

[@michaelpacinus242]

I want vadim’s Indian voice

[@WallaceMoura]

Vice City really had a lot of potential back then. Imagine if they had more tech/hardware to make such a high quality as Vice City is when it was made in their time.

[@preranavaze800]

It wouldn't had remained to our old nostalgic gta vice city

[@abemigos9281]

@@preranavaze800 ???

[@gillespriod5509]

It looked quite amazing for the time and still Is iconic and fresh thanks to the art style and the music, story, cars etc, no potential was wasted, better a little map well done, simple but enjoyable graphics and a short story than a game full of filler and gimmicks, maybe he refers to the defecation edition

[@themadtitan7603]

@@preranavaze800 I think it would've probably been the same game with a similar feel but Rockstar would've been able to capitalize a lot more on their ambitions.

[@themadtitan7603]

@@gillespriod5509 I think GTA: Vice City might've always been more of a smaller game anyway as it was meant to be an addition since the publishers thought GTA III was potentially a little bare on content. The game as it is is a great experience, but with all the cut content in addition to the atmosphere, art style, characters and music it could've been phenomenal.

[@awesomeassassin3182]

Man I can see vedim M all day with badger godger's voice without getting bored

[@StuartLugsden]

Badger has a great voice. He could read from a phone book and make it sound interesting.

[@itisfreak]

Badgers voice is like sweet nectar

[@Joshimuz]

Another great bit of research and video making Vadim :D But yeah as other's have said, I would also say that the Movie Demo mission is just a vertical slice mock up of what the game could be like when it's still in early development, kinda like concept art, used for showing to publishers/investors/the press etc etc. You even say how old the code for it is and how it uses test environment functions/opcodes. I do like the idea that the VCS devs would've had access to the code for VC and saw the cut stunt mission though, seems pretty likely to me!

[@mindless_self_indulgence]

чо

[@-SPECTRE-]

Reyder what are you doing here

[@lylevillanueva8624]

The best speedrunner Joshi! :DD

[@Sheridan2LT]

I think it was just a test mission for the cutscene system?

[@blackidpast7344]

Hello, Josh :)

[@DarkPhantom-zt9gk]

Once again, Badger Goodger smooth and calm voice is here to talk to us about GTA.

[@Shutupsitdownrelax]

Its amazing how people are still finding these things two decades after this game was released

[@MrWolfSnack]

This secret code was only just made public thanks to Grove Street Games accidentally releasing it with the game. If not for that this never would have been found.

[@Shutupsitdownrelax]

@@MrWolfSnackwell atleast something good came out of grove street games lol

[@MrWolfSnack]

@@Shutupsitdownrelax Yup. They released the entire internal source code in full because they didn't check the game before sending it out to the market. They just said "okay we're done time to go home and collect my paycheck" and sent it out. Take Two/Rockstar was freaking out hard when they realized what GSG did. The game got pulled from the market for a few days while they removed all the internal code and recompiled it.

[@Shutupsitdownrelax]

@@MrWolfSnackyes it even included the code for the hot coffee minigame in san andreas and since these "remasters" were built on the framework of the old mobile ports that means they ported the source code from the mobile port to the remaster of san andreas on xbox 360 and ps3 (which was also complete dogshit by the way as it was again just the mobile version but on consoles) and then again to the definitive edition this is just embarrassing

[@jaimeplaza7277]

I miss ya tommy

[@michaeltaylor815]

Vadim and Badger not missing any chance to roast GSG, but seriously this video just shows how much Vice City was meant to be, how timeless this masterpiece can be when people are still digging out new stuff even till this day

[@StuartLugsden]

Its always a great day when Vadim M uploads a video.

[@Adam_X78]

True

[@Insider_westernring16]

True

[@sefaagook]

and badgergoodger voices it 💯

[@tsukiGER]

and when badger also uploads a video on his channel

[@vintobeats]

Yessss, BaderGoodger and Vadim M are the best

[@maybejapheth]

The strange thing is, while I played the missions with Steve, after completing all Steve's missions, I recieved this same exact phone call. It was in the old version, in 2012. Miss those days.

[@ReiDaTecnologia]

When the only good thing that GSG did is giving us leaked files 😂👌

[@grimm_destroyer5566]

Well happy 20th anniversary Vice City and RIP Ray Liotta the GoodFella and Voice of Tommy Vercetti

[@SacilvioSantos]

I just can't wait to see something about the famous 5 cut missions from San Andreas: Roadside Assistance, Doberman, The Truth Is Out There, Impounded and Tanked There. We may be finally able to see what those were, and if we really have a clue about them, like Deezire tried to recreate with his vision. And sure, more about Big Bear, the gangs, map, vehicles in general.

[@SacilvioSantos]

@@melancholic6457 putz, cara... q pena. Era a chance de a gente saber alguma coisa dessas missões. To curioso pra ver o q vai sair aí do SA hehe... queria muito um leak dessa magnitude sobre o Vice City Stories tbm, q foi totalmente esquecido pela empresa.

[@SacilvioSantos]

@@melancholic6457 Sim, provavelmente o que segura o lançamento de qq coisa relacionada ao VCS eh a trilha sonora mesmo, os caras n querem abrir a mão kkkk. Já achei um milagre terem lançado LCS - mas infelizmente vendeu pouco pra mobile, espero q lancem aí pros consoles/PC.

[@nitrosodium]

GSG: recieves original exclusive beta development files & scripts by R* for completion Also GSG: dumps them in the final release 8:50 it's a dummy, as we can see in the final game with the bus passenger feature, implemented but not customized, only this ped is used as a dummy passenger.

[@Mirra2003-f9s]

He is also the only ped used when you happen to see a random driver that comes out of their car after running him over

[@nitrosodium]

@@Mirra2003-f9s i noticed, those random accidents with the same victim every time are hilariously sad

[@Mirra2003-f9s]

@@nitrosodium Yeah lol,but still….for the age of this game and considering it was developed in only 9 months i’d say it’s forgiveable. There are newer games that are worse than this.

[@gillespriod5509]

Ye the original Is a masterpiece, the best looking and iconic of the 3d era but the defecation edition is not to be compared with it

[@nitrosodium]

@@gillespriod5509 should've dropped it on April fools

[@MGgames100]

I disagree that this is a scrapped movie studio mission. The clue to what I personally think it is is in the name of the script itself - "movieDEMO"! You know - demo, the bit of gameplay that loads up when you don't don't do anything on the start screen that a lot of 90s and early 00s games had? It makes more sense this way. This is why the last scene is of Tommy and an unknown girl crash into an explosive barrels. A lot of demos at the time finished with a death of AI-controlled character as they were just to showcase the bit of gameplay. Still, really cool discovery, thank you Vadim as always.

[@MrDmoney156]

Yeah that's actually true, i can see that being the case but of course given that the game has no start main menu and instead automatically loads up to gameplay they have no use for it or can't use it cuz of it.

[@hidenfn]

MovieDemo was never intended to be a mission or to be tied to the movie studio, most developers usually do these as a test or as a template to get used to the cinematic coding structure, these also work as a test to make sure everything works correctly before they start doing missions that actually use them. Also, no way it was supposed to be used as an E3 demo or was used to show off to investors, it looks way too janky (they would just show game footage anyway, not cutscenes) and it’s most likely just a template or a test for the cinematic making system they used.

[@hidenfn]

While they might use the footage for a trailer or whatnot, it wouldn’t work since it has a story-like structure which would not be seen in a trailer.

[@mariobros68]

@@hidenfn but it foreshadow Ray Liotta's demise (not 100% accurate, but still)

[@SeriousDragonify]

Lol this was used in GTA VCS The Mugshot Longshot mission, mate. Even deleted GTA SA chopper damaged animation mission. Your statement is pointless.

[@yuuki671]

​@@SeriousDragonifyeat my meat

[@cyphersam9436]

It's more likely that the mission was made just as a test so the developers could get a feel for how they were going to structure each cutscene. It's in the name, "MovieDemo". They probably referred to cutscenes as movies back then and the movie made here was just their demo to base every other movie around, hence why also the buggy nature of it along with a storyline that doesn't really make much sense and doesn't feature any gameplay. This is very common with developers who are currently learning the tools they're working with, as this is more or less a test to build familiarity. I'm probably not the first to think of this idea though.

[@amneetthedelicioussandwich8921]

Ahh! This is amazing. With how secretive Rockstar can be, it’s always nice to see things like this! Amazing work!!

[@StuartLugsden]

Thank you -Grove Street Games- War Drum Studios for this happy accident.

[@lenol0315]

imagine if they kept making 3d era games even today

[@randomhiphop5055]

When I first heard there was a difference between the HD universe and 3D universe I thought that's was what they were doing. Sucks that it didn't turn out that way.

[@rayh6118]

​@@randomhiphop5055mind being more specific

[@imaxvi]

I’ve been waiting for this, can’t believe they left all this in the game.

[@nobodycares9398]

Cuz Grovestreetgames don't know how this game works back then day. That's why they forget to delete it. When Rockstar games realize they make a big mistake they have delayed the release. Thanks to grovestreetgames for their mistake

[@Voxiiit]

I work in video game development, this is clearly a tech demo for employes only to test the engine and what can be done with it with scripted events during a cutscene It's pretty cool to be able to see that after all those years !

[@cawashka]

as soon as you described the cutscene (tommy getting out of jail, people stalking him), i immediately thought of that mission in vice city stories lol. definitely inspired by that.

[@dopey473]

You're doing God's work for this community, you really didn't have to mess with old broken code to fix an unused mission yet you did anyway. Amazing!

[@thefunnymelons]

its critical information what do you mean "you did it anyway"

[@dopey473]

@@thefunnymelons he could've just left it broken and showed "oh this is basically what could've happen ignore the glitches" but he polished it

[@thefunnymelons]

@@dopey473 but if he didn't do someone else would of

[@TheGravityShifter]

@@thefunnymelons Which means he did it before that someone else. Meaning we got it sooner than otherwise. Also, him doing it means when someone else eventually does look into it, we will inevitably get some different opinions/interpretations that much sooner. Never downplay the work just cuz someone else could've done it too.

[@thefunnymelons]

@@TheGravityShifter bro he wasted his time when someone already did the thing he did a decade ago

[@ArcadeMarx]

He finally uploaded again! Always happy when Vadim uploads! 😄

[@Josh-rf9qy]

In my opinion I think moviedemo was probably like demos in old games where if you let the game run on the menu for a bit it'll play

[@gunchapred8933]

More than likely, I believe this “mission” is actually something used for testing assets and scripts for cutscenes.

[@vect0r200]

Rockstar might have been trying to make a movie like they did with San Andreas' The Introduction. Showing what happened to Tommy sometime after GTA Vice City, but scrapped it when they thought that they should use Tommy for that Rosenburg call in GTA San Andreas

[@rayh6118]

I dont think so I think it might have been a chase from steves adult films (coz back in the 80s adult films had to have a plot in order to be distributed and be considered "movies" and not obscenity) Or maybe just a demo to see how cutscene works

[@twiggy101]

I know this reply isn't important since this video is old and the comment I'm replying to is old as well but your theory is wrong, if we go back to this segment of the video 4:13 the mission source says that the this npc is called:"movie_club_manager" and Tommy is not the club manager then this wasn't totally made for the story of the game and Tommy wasn't supposed to die because of a car accident. But I still respect your theory, you see, I'm not rockstar so who knows?

[@vect0r200]

@@twiggy101 Yeah, also funny how both of us have a Max Payne pfp

[@twiggy101]

@@vect0r200 what the.. holy crap I never noticed xd

[@twiggy101]

@@vect0r200 it's insane that you replied actually

[@KashyapKing_offl]

I think moviedemo was an example for a removed feature by which video creators can make movies and stuff

[@abdelali9279]

It is pretty awesome to see real new information about GTA VC, kudos!

[@xXSilentAgent47Xx]

Part of jail scene is reference to the Ocean's Eleven ending.

[@hitzkopf9639]

It's amazing how this game still is not losing its magic 20 years later.

[@TordaiJenoArthurJenci]

Steves cut mission got reworked in Accidents will happen in VCS yep

[@Bun_McByuun]

When it comes to naming it in the code to Pizza Hut but being more of a Dominos reference, I'd guess that it's more to do with immediate recognization that it's a pizza place. When seeing Pizza_ in the code, it's telling you "oh this is our pizza resturant" rather than putting Dominos which is more vague.

[@MrWolfSnack]

keep in mind the devs were british and at this time im sure pizza hut was more established in england than dominos.

[@Playstation2ROCKS]

The effort and time you put in is crazy! It's always an awesome vid when you upload

[@sonidash216]

The same thing happened with the source code of Super Mario 64 and Luigi being found.

[@TheeMentorDex]

I reckon this was a quick demo to show what they can do with the game when the game was early in development. Seems solid since some other devs did the same thing around the same time. Sonic Team made an “AutoDemo” for Sonic Adventure to show people what the game was a about when it was also early in development. AutoDemo and MovieDemo play very similarly, in that you’re watching a scripted “mission” play out all in real-time.

[@Cheerybelle]

My first guess is that it was an early attract demo that would appear if you sat on the main menu for a little bit, or it could've been in place of the opening credits. Alternatively, it could be that it was a proof-of-concept for the potential of cutscenes, testing how elaborate and complex they could be, perhaps after some significant changes to the engine relevant to cutscenes. That said, other people are saying that it could've been intended as a demonstration for the game used to promote it at a con or expo or on their website, and that also makes sense.

[@andrewblanchard2398]

03:16 " THAT'S QUITE A PLOTHOLE " perfectly describes KURTZMAN TREK

[@mariuszpudzianowski8400]

This makes sense as we had similar mission in VCS.

[@devseiya]

The movie demo probably like one of those video at arcade showing the gameplay after you stay at the menu fo too long

[@mrsl262]

A video on what else is in the code would be awesome.

[@ItsAstie]

this game is 2 decades old and we are still discovering new things, pretty cool.

[@itsmohdmustafa]

This is so interesting, I hope we'll get to see more stuff from that source code!

[@tox7674]

Another insane video, thanks you for keep linving old gta and god BadgerGoodger voice on a Vadim M video is god tier

[@pleasedontwatchthese9593]

I agree with the other people that this might have been just a tech demo. But I do like your idea if this being a mission for the movie guy. Maybe when you complete their arch they would show you this as a reward

[@Super123456789Kuba]

Looks more like a Tech Demo or at least a something like a benchmark that they wanted to implement to this game to me.

[@donguffo662]

steve is making shark movies etc....the xxx filming was tommz comand as he buys...he puts steve in this filming

[@TordaiJenoArthurJenci]

movidemo was reworked into mugshot longshot in VCS

[@GTAHeavyImpact]

Damn, making movies in Vice City is an awesome idea, the game could be so huge!

[@Conrado967]

I waiting for this video and I look forward to more finds from the sources of the final edition!

[@notfreeman1776]

Maybe this was actually the skeletons of a different intro for the game, or even just a placeholder intro for it (with the brutal ending being a joke or a then-temporary solution, also had the car continued north it could have taken on the path to rosenbergs office). it is reminiscent of GTA 3s more action packed intro a bit, at least to my eye

[@ashwathsalaskar52]

The remastered edition is not so perfect! Instead Rockstar could have done this by themselves... But no issues, finally we got to know about some "mysterious missions"

[@Raileleven]

Maybe it was supposed to be a benchmark? Look what we have here, city shown, interiors shown, excplosions, gunfights, and driving, it could test the game pretty well, and the "movie" maybe states for that it's not a playable part of a game?

[@6Bruh9]

You know it's gonna be a good day when Vadim M uploads

[@loadingname404]

the most logical thing for me is that the programmers were testing or practicing with the cinematic function

[@PSCookieKid]

It's always a good day when Vadim M posts.

[@Ricky_Rocha]

Love the content. Keep it coming. You really know what you are doing and talking about

[@thedrbat9572]

perhaps it was for some trailer for the definitive edition, still thats crazy you found old files in a new release of the game!

[@Jfraire99]

I think Movie Demo may have not been a cut mission (since it doesn't have objectives to complete but rather a trailer. Why else would they try to implement spline camera angles for a single mission? Considering there's also a lot of broken code I don't think think we were meant to see each part of the scene play out but rather switch after reaching a certain part played out. Yes there's no other screen saying when Vice City is supposed to come out but the way it ends seems just to weird for a traditional cutscene for a mission especially if it's Tommy getting blown up. Considering the broken code and everything not exactly running smoothly and fluidly I do think this is a trailer.

[@thevillagebuffoon6043]

I can also see it being an FPS test, like how F.E.A.R. had

[@crypticrunner1200]

being an actor FOR a movie would be an awesome concept in an open world game. the only game i recall doing this is SR3, but i don't know if you can watch the end result of the movie

[@AZSDXC8954]

I think it’s just an early test demo. Thats explain old code and use of old models. Looks like they where testing their cinematic building abilities.

[@christianozorio1997]

I would love to see more missions from the Movie Studio related to the actions movies from the age as an reference that would be so insane

[@TordaiJenoArthurJenci]

i think this was meant to be the finale or tommy going to jail for 15 yrs in VC not LC

[@kaidos123]

might have just been a quick test thing to show off cut scene tools or something. it was made early in development after all.

[@TheArchive_Man]

Great work, both of you ! Thanks.

[@LaRoche_]

9:48 I had the exact same thought right from the beginning 😂

[@ak15912]

Idk but I think I played these missions and other options when I got hand on developer editing of GTA VC from goodwill but sadly end up losing the disk while moving into new house

[@romanl309]

Really interestin' video :) It's a pitty some of these things were removed from GTA games :(

[@kmshababarhith5269]

Now I know why Tommy didn't answer Rosie's call in 1992 My life is complete now

[@carljohnson1842]

Vadim M makes the day better ❤

[@AdrianToonz]

5:56 Rest in peace Ray Liotta

[@Gigidag77]

I very strongly believe that this was one of those "demo" videos that would play when you are not doing any inputs at the title screen.

[@dorek9999]

yeah my thoughts too

[@ivesscripts8876]

Has to be imo

[@cirotheb5]

Any of the gta games has a "press start" title screen so i don't think so

[@MGgames100]

Yep, it's so obvious by the end of it when they crash into the barrels. Demos usually end on the death of AI-controlled character. I'm just baffled that Vadim missed this very obvious possibility.

[@Edness]

@@cirotheb5 San Andreas has a Start screen, exclusive to the Xbox version though.

[@asackofgravy1001]

LET'S GO VADIM HELL YEAH NEW VIDEO!

[@celidazayas6185]

The shotgun of gta 3 appears in a scrennshot

[@CLOWNBOT00]

Glad you're okay Vadim and Badger ♥️

[@dodo15631]

Plot Twist: Grove Streets started to work for Rockstar so they could secretly leak some source codes and cut content from old GTA franchise for us.

[@Someone-q6f5x]

Always a good day when vadim m uploads

[@f.miller801]

Never say grove street games never did anything to the community again.

[@OriginalWaybackMate]

Today is a good day when Vadim M posts a new video

[@GTAHeavyImpact]

Another scientific study from Vadim!

[@nickrustyson8124]

I feel like that Moviedemo is a shot for shot remake of some real movie

[@Blackmorerainbowcatch]

God I love badger

[@Adam_X78]

He’s a cool guy

[@JMF67]

Chris Rothwell currently works as a 'teacher' at the Breda University of applied scienses here in The Netherlands. I could ask him about this the next time I see him again. Currently we have summer break but I will update you all once I've gotten some answers to what this was supposed to be and why it got cut.

[@xx-wp3mq]

Any updates?

[@destroyermcw626]

You’re freaking videos put me in great vibes lol and I also like these secrets and stuff ect.

[@Sargeantunknownww2]

Now new mission!!! I can't wait to play!

[@videogamesounds-asmr]

Another Vice City video. Excellent!

[@mrstudent9125]

Nice job Vadim

[@hazemroshdy3449]

Been waiting for u to upload,love the vids man

[@DeadLikeBerty]

Nice! I think you’re spot on with your theory’s!

[@aegaming9697]

Finally the video is here i love it

[@Jolis_Parsec]

Yeah, GSG has kinda impressed me with how bad they keep managing to screw up, though after watching Matt McMuscles’ video on them and their infamous “demasters”, I can’t help but feel a bit sorry for them given how Rockstar keeps placing them into really bad situations without much if anything at all in the way of help whenever they continually wind up in over their heads. It’s almost as if it’s a weird form of Stockholm Syndrome at this point given how they keep ruining my favorite game in the series, San Andreas. 😒

[@best591]

A completely different theory: Maybe a early pitch to a "movie maker" function in the game (like in GTA V). This is really far fetched and probably wrong, but wouldn't be the first feature that was implemented way before it was seen in a release title (e.g. online multiplayer, first person mode etc.)

[@Knuxfan24]

To me, this was just used to demonstrate the engine's scripting capabilities.

[@Prodawg]

I personally think it might have just been some sort of in game engine cutscene test