Guardian Tales Lore || Queen Lili Catchup (OUTDATED)

[@idriscorvus2237]

I wonder. Lorraine reaction to both LP's adventure with the dwarfs and Knight's explaining his adventure in the Unrecorded Timeline as mere "dreams" is because to her "scripts" these events was never recorded.

[@bryanzurilucianch]

your opinion is much better than those external gods known as fairies by the community. I still don't understand what caused the connection of the knight with his alternate version at the beginning of world 11.

[@idriscorvus2237]

@@bryanzurilucianch oh I'm still counting the fairies as the main reason behind the cycle. Considering they offer Altera to jump to our Knight's cycle and interfere with FP hopefully for a good reason. And personally. I don't think the fairies are the baddies in here. Well in term of repeating cycle. With Little Princess being the one that pit the Champion Sword onto the Heavenhold. She's technically the true champion not Knight..but the one with the power to bring everyone together is dumbsmile. Few main example being Rah Empire as partner counter to Aisha's changes within the Empire to unite both Rah and Kantenburian. And Unrecorded World where Knight's return literally bringing hope back to the survivors. That they can win this. Our arc in Unrecorded World. Among other journeys that the fairies charted for us to go is their plan to nuture Knight's and LP's power. The conduit and the power source to repel and to extend hopefully change the outcome between Tetis and the Humans of Earth. Probably a mere coincidence that Camilla after seeing Knight's sudden low sensitivity to Champion Sword in a way made a companion to Knight. The one that he/she can keep their promies and their smile. Something Altera lacked during their encounter with the Savior. there are few people that aware to some extend they have "previous life" during the run of our Knight. Lorraine in the particular one and of course Savior.

[@lukejackson2354]

Gnomes. Lorraine likely offers no comment cause the writers don’t want to limit or confirm any agency or involvement of her when such things unfold and makes perfect sense Lorraine would be anything but upfront with information.

[@ori0n810]

There's also a timeline where camilla's sister (lp) doesn't exist on alter knight's world Also great work on kaden's design since that would be his max evolution

[@Bredrory]

The design is just courtesy of some ripped sprites I got from a friend. And yes, LP doesn't exist on timelines normally, that's part of the reason she's branded as an anomaly by the blue fairies, she will be a key piece in breaking the loop.

[@Bredrory]

My theory is that LP is created using the same equipment that made Knight, and Camilla's sabotage is using material meant for Knight to create LP, which would explain both LP's power and why Knight seems more docile, childish and weaker than Alter Knight at first glance.

[@1nv15BL3]

@@Bredrory Damn, that's a good theory.

[@mariovictorian4574]

Also in world 16 ending it is implied that camiie and lili both of them have a similar goal . Their goal is to protect humanity and to do that they must eliminate the person that standing in their way . For queen camiie , she didnt want everyone died because of the guardian completing the propercy so thats why she decided to eliminate the guardian . As for queen lili , she saw the little princess as a threat because little princess is the key of breaking the eternal time loop and if the time loop is broken the invader will win thats why she mention little princess as rift pile when posessing cammie and judging after watching world 16 ending it seems that the little princess is breaking the time loop thats why there is a glitch in the end and after world 16 the knight story as guardian is ended and maybe the knight probqbly become alter knight 2.0

[@Bredrory]

You're wrong about one thing, the time loop isn't preventing the world from ending, it's continously ending the world over every single loop, and Lili is responsible for most of it as well. The Invaders aren't gonna win 100% even if the loop is broken, considering that Plague Doctor aka Kaden is trying to break the loop, I'd say the Savior is doing the right thing this time.

[@apexpredator7040]

@@Bredrory plague doctor was responsible for disappearance of a whole town in demon world 12-3 and turned laura and some others into monsters, and at world 14 ending you showed in this video he was using insulting words for vampires and others, laden will never do such evil or talk that way, he did warned camilla about lilis intentions but it's not because he wants to help but he had some different and even more horrible plans, maybe the labose consuming the world after saviors beheading everytime is his work..

[@Bredrory]

The end of the world scenario was already in the murals in Heavenhold, it was not his work. Plus in World 16, the mural recovered in the temple of water shown Kaden and Lili, however when we put it in the main control room, it became smudged and Kaden became Plague Doctor. Another point would be that Lili referred to Plague Doctor as an old comrade whose purpose had been finished already, it is likely she knew that he was Kaden. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results, and in the final mural in 16-3, it is implied the one who put the text there was Kaden, and he kept going through the loops and wondering why the world was ending each time before realizing the swords true purpose. He lost himself among infinity, and became the Plague Doctor.

[@apexpredator7040]

@@Bredrory ohh, so it means he's now twisted and lost his sanity due to trying to break the loop over and over again..

[@Bredrory]

Yep, and that's why he's okay with crossing so many lines Kaden wouldn't have crossed back in the day. He's broken, but he still is determined to destroy the loop.

[@shadowstales9443]

I think the Savior is the same person as the doctor There are same power (Distort space-time) and same goal The Savior want to break the loop, and the doctor want to Make labos disappear, but it's labos who created the loop

[@Bredrory]

Very interesting, I haven't thought about this!

[@howls773]

Plague Doctor is Kaden. You can find the evidences at the 4th mural before and after being adultered when collecting all murals in W16. Also in W16 after we read some letters of queens before Camilla, Lili was supposed to steal Camilla body in order to keep the loop, just how all her ancestors did when offering their bodies to Lili keep ruling Kanterburry, just after stealing Camilla body's she would guide us to the end of the Prophecy(Obs:We can see what would happen if Lili had success stealing the Camilla Body and Little Princess didn't exist be Alter Knight time line at cutscene from 11-1 and 13-1). Lili does not know that Kaden(Plague Doctor) still alive and much less that he want to end the loop while she belives that the world must keep the loop in order to not let the Invasors win. Oh yeah i almost forgot, its Kaden who tells Lili the prophecy. After he touches the champion's sword he could see the future about the loop and what would happen if the invaders won, so he made everything possible to keep the civilization alive and talked to Lili to construct Heavenhold(ofc it was not only those two who made it) and after that Kaden disappeared again and somehow he found out about Labose and its studying about that and just how Lorraine is "imortal" Kaden could become even if he is just an human, well just like Lorraine told us, Labose just have one goal and it is to devour all invaders, this explain why Kaden its studying about Labose.

[@Bredrory]

I know I gotta make an update video on this, been receiving lots of comments about World 16 updates now... ヾ(。￣□￣)ツ

[@AquaBestMegami]

Loraine's potential master must be Kaden right? she mentioned someone like that after the Clone Contest Venue stage

[@Bredrory]

@@AquaBestMegami It could be the clone talking about Loraine being its master. But it could also be Loraine talking about their actual master, now that is likely Kaden/Plague Doctor, since he experiments a lot with Labose, and Loraine is made of the stuff.

[@howls773]

@@AquaBestMegami Idk, Lorraine was one of many people who made Heavenhold be possible so these two had contact but we dont have more info than that.

[@howls773]

Upadate: Actually Lili knows Kaden is alive.

[@t8721277]

Dont forget GT is a multiverse We have FP and alter knight

[@Bredrory]

Yeah, multiple timelines. Hundreds of Loops, Alter is from the last loop, approximately N+1 amounts of loops happened. And FP is from the ruined future timeline, though she's in the primary timeline now.

[@TGIartist]

Alright, after World 16 I have some questions (the reason for the questions is too much time since the completion of the previous worlds and the fact that English is not my native language): 1. Why Queen Lili takes over the bodies of the future Queens of Kanterbury? What is the purpose of this? Maintaining the time loop, the desire to live forever or bad intentions? Also why Camie wanted so much to avoid being "taken over" by Lili? If both believes that Knight must be destroyed, why both of them don't cooperate? 2. How do you know there were Lili clones in these tubes (where Camilla talks with woman in dark room with tubes)? This mean Camille and all her ancestors (up to Lili) are just Lili clones (not other persona)? Who release these clones then from tubes? Other people from Kanterbury palace must know about it. 3. Isn't this "creation" of Camille is Knight, not Little Princess (past memories when Lili talks with Camie)? Lili said that in the future, this person need will wield the Champion Sword. After this she ask Camie "since when did you have a sister?". I doubt she meant LP as the person who would wield the Champion Sword. Besides, if Camilla had created LP, she wouldn't have considered her more like a "daughter" than a "sister" (at least that seems more logical to me)? I mean: both Knight and LP are created, but anyway about Sword she mean Knight not LP - remember about these memories from past where Knight plays with LP in Lab? Both are created, but LP couldn't wield ChampSw. Also this mean Eva knew everything about Knight, that why she picked us on the beggining of the game? 4. If Cammie wanted us dead - why she just don't kill as when we was baby or just don't save us when Beth chased us in air? 5. Why this Loop exist? We know about Prophecy, but how they all know that if Knight use ChampSw vs Invaders it will destroy all humanity etc? 6. Why Savior "playing for time" and just... Don't take this planet? Also why Savior "works" with Lili, and Lili "works" with Plague Doctor? Also: In W16 in corridor with these pictures from past (these which was scanned and copied) you can hear strange "beeping". But when you go further to other room with big elevator at the center you no longer hear this "beeping". Its, maybe just for me, strange and causes me anxiety? Thanks in advance for help! 😊

[@Bredrory]

1. Queen Lili has been taking over the bodies of previous Kanterbury Queens for a while now, she does this to ensure that the Royal Duties must continue, and also to ensure the prophecy proceeds as planned, and she never wanted to kill the Guardian either, only the Princess. 2. The children inside these tubes are very likely Lili clones, but it's not 100% confirmed yet. And the one who releases them is likely Lili herself while piloting the body of another Queen. 3. Camilla never created anybody, she just raised the Knight and Little Princess ever since they were children. Little Princess was a timeline anomaly that manifested in the form of Camilla's little sister, she isn't supposed to be in the timeline, and her existence alone drained powers from the Knight, which is why Alter Knight seemed much stronger. Also, the Knight was the only one tested in the labs, they were trying to calibrate his body to be able to have more compatibility towards the Champion's Sword, and Little Princess was just Knight's playmate. 4. Cammie only wanted us to die after she reached the conclusion on how to stop the loop once and for all with the Savior, and their conclusion was that the Knight could never reach Savior with the Champion's Sword in hand. 5. The full version of the prophecy included the fact that the world will turn to darkness and be destroyed after the Guardian's victory against the Invaders, and not that many people know the true nature of the prophecy either, only Savior, Plague Doctor, Lili, Alter Knight, Camilla and the fairies know about this truth. 6. The Savior is trying to drag out the invasion because he wants to break the loop. From outside, it seems that Lili is working with the Savior, but in reality the Savior is actually trying to break the loop too, he just can't do anything big himself because he's been through too many loops and has a nihilistic viewpoint. Plague Doctor used to work with Lili, considering the Doctor himself is KADEN. However something happened between them, and now Plague Doctor aka Kaden is trying to find a way to break the loop and escape with Lili, while Lili is completely insane due to the amount of loops that have passed, and her allegiance to the Guides.

[@TGIartist]

@@Bredrory thanks aaaalot for your answers! Now for me everything is clear. I was just curious about a few things. Besides: what about the fact of the "chosen one" that Weronika and her people is looking for? I wonder if it's Knight or not?

[@LupinaCatto]

Lmao every person on the thumbnail is the villain

[@Bredrory]

Worse, even the sword is sorta responsible. And the two persons on the left are the same now.

[@apexpredator7040]

Except Kaden

[@Bredrory]

Not anymore...

[@DESTROYER6497]

Imagine game theory covers this game's lore...

[@Bredrory]

I'd be outta business!

[@FanaticChain]

Don’t you just love gt lore? It’s much more complex than your average game, and receives much less attention

[@Bredrory]

Absolutely! I love it a lot, that's part of the reason I try to document and make content off of it!

[@Rainbowstaronnight567]

Is this the time or era where all the heroes of the past fell into darkness and a new knight are rise in new world bring brightness to the world?

[@Bredrory]

The new knight however was tricked into plunging the world into eternal darkness instead, and the heroes of the past instead tried to save the world to their best efforts, but ultimately ended up falling from grace into dark practices in their pursuit, though they never lost track of their ultimate goal.

[@ItsJustKaya]

Now include Tower story aswell + video. Like i am pretty sure that one human girl on interview- video is one of the 13 humans who got lost. She has some temperament issues like our current 13, teatan genius. So my believe is, she is perhaps the ancestor one of first humans like all other champions beeing the ancestors from missing 13

[@AquaBestMegami]

yo w16 just dropped, hopefully theres a follow up to this vid 😃

[@Bredrory]

Yep, I'll need to process all the new information first though.

[@pharezcharles3235]

This might come out of place and not in the exact lore that this video speaks about, but i want to know something. We know that once the Savior is heheaded, everything and anything is killed and goes into the void, but we also know that Dungeon Links has magic and everything needed for that world or timeline 500 years existing, So while that means the Savior would also be the reason why Dungeon links started up with that reality. The exact start point of the Time Fairy aka Queen Lili existing is unknown, might be the same time that the Savior takes his first breath or a lil while after his existence. What you think?? And since that the Time Fairy exist out and within all time itself then wouldn't that means that the Savior immense power would means of every life on the Guardian tales universe BUT!! only within the planet we have our adventure on????????? Then what about for the Labose?? It was discovered by The Savior and his team on another planet since there were scientists, which means there is a "Earth" in the Guardian tales universe too. My theory might be chaos, but let me know what you think about it 😅😅😓

[@Bredrory]

The Dungeon Link universe started wayyy before Labose was even discovered on Earth, while it already existed on Tetis and is the explanation for magic's existence, the Savior isn't really connected to Tetis' history up until he began to invade the planet. The Savior is actually stronger than Lili too, but you can think of the Time Loop as a way of containing him for the time being, it's similar to how Bellial, despite being stronger than Claude, never actually realized that he was stuck in a Time Loop created by Claude himself. I got a little sidetracked there, but the answer is that Savior isn't responsible for the events of Dungeon Link in the slightest, unless the original 13 Earthling settlers were the ancestors of humanoid lifeforms on Tetis, in which case he might have SOMETHING to do with the population of Tetis. But if we only consider the facts we have available to us right now, Savior doesn't actually have anything to do with Tetis' past developments, aka the events of Dungeon Link.

[@pharezcharles3235]

@Bredrory Then what you think would be the existence of magic and everything in the first place since the Savior isn't it but instead got infected by the Labose?? I don't know really, they gave an indirect response about the true purpose for the Savior existing but now there twist our brains about. What can you say about that?

[@Bredrory]

@@pharezcharles3235 Savior tampered with Labose on Earth and that resulted in a near-extinction event happening to Humanity. Magic itself was already naturally occurring, Labose reacting to organic particles produced magic, but Savior attempted to abuse it for power and that's why it became aggressive and wiped out nearly 90% of humanity. Even if Savior didn't experiment on Labose, Tetis would still have magic, but they wouldn't have humanoid species though since the Astronauts never arrived.

[@pharezcharles3235]

@Bredrory ooohhh so in some cases Labose was the response of magic itself. That's another long story for itself but right now, here's another question theory. When did the existence of Queen Lili came into being and wouldn't you think that she would have some knowledge of species outside of Tetis?? And within another time or realm? Since she is the Time Fairy from in her Prime and ij her current form?

[@Bredrory]

@@pharezcharles3235 She wasn't always a time fairy, she only encountered the time fairies after she began researching the Champion's Sword, it's after she met them that she was likely offered a deal to join them.

[@syedahsanmahmood4693]

So now that we have completed season 2 as well what do u think things are going towards . 🤔 also any new theories about season 3 new videos? ?!

[@randompony5159]

Wait that art could this be one of the characters of the champion sword! But all of this was changed because of something in the current chapter... Mmmmmm.... 6:44

[@Bredrory]

Yep, I know I got my work cut out for me...

[@randomboi2939]

Great video this clarifies a bunch of stuff. But one question why was alter knight brought to this timeline. Idk cause at the end of world 16 we see the blue fairy to be reveal as queen lili so what if queen lili maybe brought alter knight to this timeline to capture a kill the princess and knight, so that way the prophecy could still happen since the knight we know was weak and if that the princess was made out of the same stuff that was used to make the knight. Then it look like the knight’s original power was split into two entities. So since since LP Isnt supposed to created and that the knight’s power is weak then i feel like Lili might have brought alter knight to kill Lp and the knight so that way the loop wouldn’t be broken and so that alter knight would replace the knight and LP so that way he just could kill the savior without LP therefore not breaking the timeline.

[@t8721277]

There is also 1 mural on one act play 10

[@Bredrory]

The first mural on One Act Play 10 is the same as the first one we can see in World 16 Stage 3, I'll be covering it.

[@mikaelseno9670]

theory : dr plague = loraine just theory

[@finvaly]

I wonder why Lili tells the Savior that Knight will stand before him with the Champion's sword. Isn't the timeline of 10-11 the one where the loop is already broken due to some Champions being dead?

[@Bredrory]

Yes, but when we returned to the past after World 11, everything was undone, however the Future Timeline still exists. The conversation took place in the prime timeline.

[@burgerxmaple]

Wassup im new to gt if you have free time can u answer my question. Just recently found this called mystry footage my question is, is it linked to the main lore or no. basically there's an lookalike planet called tetis which i know from ur video so im guessing the guardian we lived on is in the tetis, so theres an actual orginal earth that the human and other races live in far before we found this explanet and a the founder of this planet was a doctor that also financed this project they send 13 scienetis who also lookalike from the 13 champion 🗿. and it didnt end up well for them, they got attacked by a shadow monster idk what are they but ihink its some kind of labose monster? And about the mural someone found there, where there was 13 champion who fought againts darkness like it was somekind of prophecy. So if its true and canon are this 13 are the descendant of the champion. like they built tetis form 0 and begin civilization. (Sorry for my grammar) i have alot to ask but i just want too see a respond first

[@Bredrory]

The Mystery Footage plotline is... well, still a mystery. We can't fully figure it out yet since it's supposed to connect to the Orbital Lift plotline, which hasn't been completed yet, so we'll have to wait for now. Though the most we can confirm from the mystery footage for now is that the prophecy of the Champion's Sword is what the mural was depicting, the crew was attacked by labose monsters at first, and the name of the planet we play on is Tetis. Thank you for the question!

[@burgerxmaple]

@@Bredrory ty for the answer. The orbital lift seems have realted stories to the mystery footage too, like they mention tetis, company project i think there's a deeper explanation there although i didnt finished the game stages yet i alr got spioled from the media i think ill finish the game content first too understand better.

[@Bredrory]

Good luck!

[@liiminalspacess]

was it ever said when and where thr timeloop starts and ends?

[@Bredrory]

The timeline loop begins on the day that the Invaders attack Kanterbury (prologue) and ends when Savior is beheaded by Knight using the Champion's Sword.

[@alannacrow]

So, if the princess is a threat since she can't control her powers, is it possible if the future princess may help the knight with the whole time loop and help the knight to stop Lili, and the invaders?

[@Bredrory]

She might come back soon, yes. I hope she does, though there's the chance that Lili might possess Future Princess...

[@alannacrow]

@@Bredrory could be, and another thing what did the blue fairy (who is technically queen Lili) do to the future princess since savior wants the future princess to go back in time in the past to save the guardian.

[@Bredrory]

In one of the Heavenhold comics, it is shown that she is in our timeline, its just that she can't get close to the Knight.

[@alannacrow]

@@Bredrory so it's kinda like back with beth that she took us to the future and now the blue fairy (queen Lili) took future princess into our timeline sorry I ask it's just the game is so interesting 🧐🤔

[@Bredrory]

@@alannacrow Well Savior was the one to cast the portal, but Lili was the one who took FP away, though Lili just sorta plopped her elsewhere.

[@klobribirds7670]

Plus in chapter 17 lili and the plauge doctor manage to take over lp and one of the 5 remaining champion the heavendhold mech the heavenhold it self and idk why when i first play guardian tales I have a strong suspicion with the fairy guide entities, lili and both plauge doctor and savior and what they mission to earase lp from existence since maybe little princess is the key to stop the never ending loop of suffering and despair and in the next chapter idk the next chapter will be the last chapter of gt or what but maybe is about try to stop both lp and heavenhold from they rampaging state and then there will be a season 3 for the final battle and the find 4 remaining champion including kaden

[@Bredrory]

The current released story is only around 30% to 40% of the entire story, stay tuned for more. By the way it was Chapter 16, Lili is trying to kill LP but Plague Doctor and Savior are against that, though only Plague Doctor can act independently.

[@klobribirds7670]

@@Bredrory so is lili plan to kill lp ehm interesting

[@Bredrory]

@@klobribirds7670 Lili wanted to kill LP since she was an unexpected variable that affected and/or could break the loop. She failed though since Camilla killed herself, but the trauma seems to make LP's power go into overdrive.

[@marcioherobrine-ce2vw]

needs to be updated

[@Bredrory]

I'm... working on it.

[@Yes_im_a_humanlol]

So the savior and lili wants to end the loop and camilla don't?,in world 16 trailer Camilla Will become the villain,did she got brainwashed or she was the traitor ?

[@Bredrory]

No, Savior, Camilla and Plague Doctor want to break the loop, while Lili is helping the external forces perpetuate it. And in the World 16 trailer, we aren't sure if Camilla is doing everything out of her own volition or if she was brainwashed, so stay tuned for future world releases!

[@Yes_im_a_humanlol]

@@Bredrory what happend to the rest of the champion ?,did they just diseppear

[@Yes_im_a_humanlol]

So what's the point of savior attacking the entire planet,and who is the main villain in this game,is it savior ?

[@Yes_im_a_humanlol]

Im really confused

[@Bredrory]

The rest of the champions, as seen in the trailer, was fitted with what seemed to be mind-control masks which might've been surgically attached to their faces. Most likely Camilla trying to control them.

[@maclaren93]

I didn't know there was spoken dialogue at the end of the first season. is it only in japanese?

[@Bredrory]

Its only voiced in Japanese, but the text is available in every language which the game provides localization for!

[@ragnarhd32]

I have been wondering, 0:53 what are those things behind queen lili?

[@Bredrory]

Oh that's the Invader Mothership.

[@ragnarhd32]

​@@Bredrorybut the mothership doesn't have 3 heads? If you check season 2 trailer video the mothership has only one centre head that fires beams. Also the centre heads look completely different from each other if you compare them side to side. Also this ship/creature (whatever it is) is actually more terrifying than that of the mothership. Unless this was the previous design or something of the mothership or if the artists took creative liberty, I don't think they are the same.

[@Bredrory]

@@ragnarhd32 It should in theory be the mothership, they did change a lot of designs and swapped styles in season 2, but I suppose you have a good point in that it's way bigger.

[@ragnarhd32]

@@Bredrory do you know what world and stage this queen lili cutscene was in?

[@Bredrory]

@@ragnarhd32 World 1, Stage 7.