Has nobody told Gene Haas that he could just be the title sponsor of a team instead of running one if all he wants is a rolling billboard?
@robh_uk8 ай бұрын
Was about to post the same. Haas Andretti F1. Sorted.
@cr24sh8 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure that Andretti wants his own name on his car
@seancca8 ай бұрын
@@cr24sh I am sure he would gladly take some sponsorship money from Haas.
@shreya11008 ай бұрын
@@robh_ukEven Hass Red Bull racing will be fine. Even Aston Martin group was okay with it bafore Stroll came on board.
@hakkinen19988 ай бұрын
Andretti wants his name on the car as well as Cadillac.
@Abisanth118 ай бұрын
I feel like Haas is the only team on the grid with no real vision for the future. I don’t know how they’re planning on improving without changing their operating model.
@09csr8 ай бұрын
That is the issue: they don't plan on improving, because management think their strategy is correct.
@mihakanzyani8 ай бұрын
Alpine / Renault would come in second in my opinion. Where is that team going?
@LorenzoCorrado198 ай бұрын
@@mihakanzyani And also sauber. Their only goal is to stay in F1 to wait for Audi to take over.
@mrsoisauce90178 ай бұрын
@@LorenzoCorrado19that in and of itself is a future plan. They’re also trying to improve, which is why they’re pushing Audi to dump more money into the project so they have more to work with. Essentially, their goal is the same as Aston Martin’s: to be a title contender by around 2026
@KA._.1448 ай бұрын
@@mihakanzyaniat least alpine is a consistently mid team, that could at least get them some sponsors. haas is always 15th or lower so not many advertising opportunities because their not shown
@sam214628 ай бұрын
Gene Haas made it very clear from the outset that all he was interested in was a rolling billboard for HAAS. It was a shame then and it is a shame now.
@cpcxgsr8 ай бұрын
Haas was a thief and had to pay the price. Not surprised that he still is though. Let’s hope Steiner can get his share of the team.. It was understood that Steiner was a partner with Haas.
@stephenlea57658 ай бұрын
A rolling billboard at the back of the field doesn’t get much media attention.
@burner89598 ай бұрын
@@stephenlea5765 But it did...with Guenther Steiner as it's head.
@natelecarde9628 ай бұрын
At this point he should just sell the team to Andretti and try and make them their title sponsor.
@MikeGarden8 ай бұрын
@@cpcxgsrI wouldn’t call tax evasion being a “thief” When taxes are the government literally stealing the money you’ve earned.
@abuabdullah80248 ай бұрын
How did Gene Haas expect to move forward without any new investments
@toptanupat8 ай бұрын
By being American cheapskate and pretend to know everything.
@Dave-qn9dj8 ай бұрын
Gene believes in miracles he want a brawn story
@welles288 ай бұрын
He doesn't appear to want to "move forward". Not sure how the current status quo works for him, but there we are...
@jamescharlton9248 ай бұрын
Just like Boris Johnson when he was Mayor of London and then Prime Minister - it’s a play thing
@glenn51898 ай бұрын
dosnt need to the teams only there to advertise Haas Machine Tools worldwide
@The_Curious_Cat8 ай бұрын
Gene Haas: wants to run a low-cost team. Also Gene Haas: surprised he's getting below-average performances.
@mtnbikeman858 ай бұрын
It matches their position in the machine tool world, low cost and under performing ;)
@ronbelanger41138 ай бұрын
@@mtnbikeman85 The OC Chopper of the CNC field!
@aldopulidocastillo12708 ай бұрын
It pisses me of how a team like Haas whose owner barely cares about the sport is let stay, while Andretti has had to fight so much to try to enter the grid
@kicapanmanis10607 ай бұрын
Other teams had a chance to enter when the last Concorde Agreement was signed in 2021 (during a time where the teams and the sport was suffering huge losses) - nobody chose to do that. Now when things are rosy again, they want a slice of the gravy train without taking any of the risks in times of uncertainty.
@DvD8117 ай бұрын
Absolutely... Gene haas clearly don't give a F about the team It's there for the Advertising ...And right now, thanks to his obvious lack of interest, it's also negative publicity
@JamaicanMeCrazy8 ай бұрын
I can't imagine having a boss like him for more than a week
@CDNChaoZ8 ай бұрын
Yes, Gene Haas seems impossible to appease.
@shaunmark18 ай бұрын
@@CDNChaoZ Imagine using 99% of your time on the phone with him, trying to appease unrealistic demands. Hard pass.
@generaldreagonlps68898 ай бұрын
I had a boss like him for a while. Overall an ok guy if things went according to plan but utterly useless if things went wrong. Which wasn't uncommon.
@alexeimscruz28938 ай бұрын
I fear all those talents are being wasted away under Gene Haas's disinterest in investing to move the team up the Constructors year after year... better to let Andretti buy Gene out and operate the team as a contender rather than a back marker... the team, not Haas, deserves better
@steiner52528 ай бұрын
As long as he does not smash my fucking door.
@chriscampbell13098 ай бұрын
Most detailed response video on the internet. Respect for speed you've pulled this together Edd and team
@vandalsgarage8 ай бұрын
It's been a foregone conclusion for several months, since Steiner started making public statements that Gene Haas owed him an ownership piece. I think Steiner overestimated his popularity with the fans, and thought that would help pressure Haas. Clearly it didn't.
@TheDiasporaMedia8 ай бұрын
Ed ate the team 😂
@kennyj438 ай бұрын
@@vandalsgarage How this imbroglio may or may not affect Steiner is the minor issue IMHO. As others here have said, the bigger issue is the team and how it will fare. Gene Haas wants to run an F1 team merely as an advertising and marketing vehicle and is quite happy to sit at the back of the grid, which is unfair to the people who work for the outfit, especially Kevin and Nico, and for the sport as a whole. I, like others here, think Haas should sell the team to Andretti. They are racers and they would bring expertise and, even more importantly, ambition, to the grid. Gene can always reserve some advertising space on the cars since that is, in effect, all he wants.
@ResolvezDubstep8 ай бұрын
Gunther and Mattia making their own Netflix show where they just cruise around The Dolomites in Italy in a small, old model Fiat 500 and they'll just joke around in Italian about their time at F1 and how the grapevines are growing nicely this year to make their signature Foksmash & Sbinotto Wine. It's all orchestrated and all comming together now.
@FSVR542 ай бұрын
Smash hit
@krissavagelive8 ай бұрын
I'll miss Guenther. One of the better personalities in the sport. Wish you the best mate
@activat0rz8 ай бұрын
His personality is toxic.
@Toykio7 ай бұрын
@@activat0rzWhat about it is toxic? Do you perhaps mistake his bluntness as agressive toxicity?
@activat0rz7 ай бұрын
@@Toykio He's an uncharismatic bully. At least that's the impression he gives off. You can be blunt without being rude etc.
@bort-7 ай бұрын
@@activat0rz Uncharismatic? If that's a word you'd use to describe his charisma, I wonder how you'd describe Christian Horner and Toto Wolff lol
@runninginthe90s757 ай бұрын
That's karma for Guenther, Gene and Haas after destroying Mick career. Even if Haas quit from F1 i won't miss anything from them, they totally deserve it !! No team treat their driver worse than Haas !!! Haas quitting F1 is justice for Mick !!!
@soundscape268 ай бұрын
Either The Race knew about this for a while or the script for this video was written at a really furious pace.
@ccramit8 ай бұрын
Most of the goings on in the paddock are usually known by everyone in F1 for a few days before it becomes official. Or at the very least, rumors are flying about. These guys probably caught wind of some news a few days ago.
@DeathBlocks8 ай бұрын
Not like this is a shock so they could have had a general script written even if they hadn't heard any rumours.
@soundscape268 ай бұрын
@@DeathBlocks Ironic that you used the word shock when the first chapter is called... shock exit. 😄 But yeah, they had to knew beforehand.
@jstogdill8 ай бұрын
@@ccramit I’m just here to be a pedantic and say there is no paddock during the off season. Sorry. I’ll see myself out.
@robertcarr41728 ай бұрын
The race team are fantastic journalists. So writing a script like this shouldnt take toooo long. But yeah the speed that they get reaction videos out is seriously impressive
@ernestolara18798 ай бұрын
At this point Haas is just a wasted grid space... with teams that actually want to make things happen like andretti being denied it angers me to no end having to stand the fact that one out of 10 precious teams is just there to show up for sponsors...
@Tubesmaney8 ай бұрын
Me as well. Haas needs to leave F1!
@jeroenverzijl85968 ай бұрын
The drivers Magnussen and Hulkenberg are midfield drivers, but haas chooce the money out of russia and the ferrari dropspot with schumacher, haas is always mentioned that they fired him, but he was ferrari contract and not good enough, ferrari dropped him and haas was not his employer, but i think they need to sell and the fia needs to make place for a possible 11th and 12th team, the teams should not have any saying in that, ferrari saids the stop then well, so wat, don't believe it
@trendkill5188 ай бұрын
Honestly, Andretti probably wants the same thing just to make money. Not real successful in motorsports and now wants to bandwagon on f1 finally making money after all these teams survived the past few years. He should have invested back then not now! I want to see real racing not what the American teams want to bring. I’ve watched f1 long enough to know, and I’m an American so there goes that.
@Pedro2858 ай бұрын
It’s hard to understand why he doesn’t sell if he is not interested in investing. Such an elite sport with so few players it’s no longer a good fit to have someone there just to be a rolling billboard
@trendkill5188 ай бұрын
@@Pedro285 because it’s making him money. This is why the sport will cease to become a sport because there won’t be real competition. This whole “show” liberty media talks about is bs. Just a way to sell more and give us less racing, which is why I tune in.
@hanzigreen8 ай бұрын
Gene is literally the opposite of Lawrence Stroll. If he doesn't want to invest in his OWN team then why the hell is he still there? Give your seat to Andretti instead.
@benjaminblakemore97048 ай бұрын
I hope SKY f1 offers Gunther a position on racedays 😊
@benben34098 ай бұрын
That would be AWESOME
@BobSmith-uu5kj8 ай бұрын
Pathetic comment
@AlexNossib8 ай бұрын
I would prefer him to work for FIA and race control so we can end the inconsistencies and random penalties.
@yawbirak8 ай бұрын
I would go back to sky F1 from F1tv that's for sure.
@alias198 ай бұрын
@@AlexNossib Steiner’s not the guy for a desk job.
@ProfanityManate8 ай бұрын
Haas' struggles/poor performances and Genes indifference to the team makes the "new teams need to bring value to the grid" argument by the teams look more ridiculous.
@parkercrossland4108 ай бұрын
What they’re really saying is that “your teams addition needs to make it so that our team makes more money”
@KayJblue7 ай бұрын
@@parkercrossland410Well yeah that’s quite transparently what they they mean
@ultrv_nostvlgia36397 ай бұрын
I agree and disagree, nobody wants another haas on the grid, but if it's acceptable for them to be mediocre every season, what's one more mediocre team?
@joefurious7323 ай бұрын
@@ultrv_nostvlgia3639 another Haas team would actually be quite fun. 10 minutes after max wins you can still watch the heated fight for last place between them. I'd say that would be pretty entertaining, like an after race event
@emmanuelsengo6848 ай бұрын
this is the team I'm told deserves to be on the grid more than Andretti Cadillac. It Would be wise for Gene to sell the team to Andretti.
@chriscollins5508 ай бұрын
He won't and it's he's team and there's nothing anyone can say or do. I bet you if Haas come up for sale they would block it from Andretti anyway as they done before. They don't really want him on the grid.
@Ceece208 ай бұрын
Shh, EU people don’t want to be told their precious race series can’t be called the “pinnacle of racing” if it’s a gated community.
@chriscollins5508 ай бұрын
@Ceece20 it's gated to keep it at the top of all motor sports. It's still the pinnacle and that's why almost every racing driver wants to race in f1.
@Ceece208 ай бұрын
@@chriscollins550 Yet your teams are literally bottom feeders. Andretti wants to compete and wants to spend money, yet teams like Haas get to coast along and spend minimal. Let them in and kick out Haas if you really want to be called pinnacle of racing sports.
@chriscollins5508 ай бұрын
@Ceece20 why it got to be Andretti? What's wrong with wv group coming in, how do they not bring the same attention. It's not my favourite team at all. Fia just can't kick someone out just because they aren't pushing development, that's against European sporting code that's in European law.
@HammerHeart32298 ай бұрын
It's even more annoying to me now that the other teams have been reluctant about Andretti joining the grid because they're not sure what value Andretti could bring to F1 and yet by the sounds of it, Haas are literally just there to make the numbers up so long as Gene gets money out of it. I could have sworn I remember reading at the time (I think it was in Autosport if I remember correctly) when Haas announced they were joining F1 their intention was to be a front runner competing for wins and championships. I wonder where that ambition went?
@4vepvik7818 ай бұрын
Worn down by reality.I guess.😢
@GeraldGama8 ай бұрын
You can't expect other teams to accept taking a pay cut just because one of the existing team owner is only there for marketing reasons. If only there was a possibility to throw out HAAS in favour of Andretti.
@mrgalaxy3968 ай бұрын
It's all about money mate. Andretti in => pie gets divided into 11 instead of 10 parts => less money for current teams. When they say they're not sure what the value Andretti would bring is, they're really saying they're unconvinced the pie would grow so much just because Andretti joined that they'd get more money out of it than they stand to lose. And honestly they're probably right.
@GeraldGama8 ай бұрын
@user-tv9xd1uo6l not true, you are just guessing that based on the fact that Andretti is currently being denied a spot. It’s all a matter of timing, the current state of F1 has the sport with the highest commercial value than it has ever heard and therefore the dynamics changed completely.
@HammerHeart32298 ай бұрын
@@mrgalaxy396 Sadly you're probably right that it does ultimately come down to money. That's been the line that the current teams have mostly stuck to throughout all of the Andretti drama. The thing is though while I understand that viewpoint to a degree (Less so if you're Red Bull or Merc or Ferrari), F1 isn't a private club. As far as I'm aware the most cars allowed on the grid is 26 as per the regulations so that leaves three spots for three potential new teams. The way I see it if those three potential teams meet the minimum criteria and they show they're not a Mickey Mouse team (Like Andrea Moda or Life) then they should be allowed on the grid. Give them a chance and see if they sink or swim. If the other teams don't like it well... Tough! Either deal with it or feel free to walk away! 😂
@fallenshallrise8 ай бұрын
This is AMAZING news. Gene Haas has come out and said, in writing, that the team hasn't been competing "correctly" and that everything that the team has achieved in the past under it's minuscule budget are nothing to do with Gene and all because of Steiner. So when the team inevitably craters next season he has no one to fire but himself. First big brain move, grab the technical head who built the car that has been eating its tires all season and promote him. Nice job Gene.
@wingracer16148 ай бұрын
The technical head got sacked too. This is the 3rd guy down the totem pole that got promoted
@mrsoisauce90178 ай бұрын
I don’t think it was this guy’s idea. Recall that Haas’ entire concept is basically just a slightly different Ferrari. It follows literally exactly the same concept as the Ferrari does, and the big problem with the Ferrari is that the Ferrari eats its tires. If the Ferrari eats its tires, and the Haas is basically just a white Ferrari, ofc the Haas is going to eat its tires too
@torocars92277 ай бұрын
Gene has Ferrari engines and computers….. he gave a lot and risked a lot trusting on Steiner to do the job. You guys understand Ferrari was fastest power unit last season right?
@mrsoisauce90177 ай бұрын
@@torocars9227 I don’t even think it’s that. Haas’ problem is that they’re trying way too hard to copy Ferrari’s concept. It’s no wonder that the Haas basically has all of the characteristics of the Ferrari but worse. Perhaps if they want their own way, they’d be at least a bit more successful
@torocars92277 ай бұрын
@@mrsoisauce9017 if you have all characters of Ferrari shouldn’t you at least be in midfield not bottom?
@InterestedAmerican8 ай бұрын
I'm surprised he lasted this long with HAAS. I thought for sure he was gone after season two of Drive to Survive.
@chriscollins5508 ай бұрын
Then Haas would of had nothing. No sponsor and just basic money that Haas himself puts in and that not enough to develop a race winning car. Haas wants one thing a big platform to advertise on.
@InterestedAmerican8 ай бұрын
@@chriscollins550 I looked at it merely from a performance perspective. Gunther would talk, but nothing changed. After two seasons, I figured Gene Haas would give him the boot. I just hope they employ engineers that can make a difference under new leadership.
@chriscollins5508 ай бұрын
@@InterestedAmerican but they won't because Haas is not willing to spend the money on new engineers and it's not just them. They been doing the same strategy for past few year's now and that's down to the strategy team bassed in America. They build a car around Ferrari part's but if them engendering team doesn't know how it works or how their car design must be to make them part's work then the car won't work as well because them part's don't go with that car.
@jimiverson30858 ай бұрын
@@chriscollins550 The truth is that Haas is no more American than any other team on the grid. As far as I know the only American associated with the team is Gene Haas, and other than owning this mess he does sweet f-all with the team. Zack Brown's level of involvement would make McLaren more American than Haas. And regarding "basing," all the team facilities are in the UK as is the F1 engineering staff. Engine and transmission are Ferrari and the chassis are built by Dallara, so the functional aspects of the team are more Italian than American. Shoot, if they sold the team to Michael Andretti, the team would probably become less Italian on net.
@rosarioyeen13717 ай бұрын
Gene really should just sell. Michael is already getting facilities ready in Indiana.
@MK-10108 ай бұрын
I remember on DTS, Geunter calling Haas needing money after a crash. Reminded me of a college kid calling his frustrated dad. Demeaning for Geunter, and no way to run a racing team.
@helmuthj.zotter72725 ай бұрын
WHO is Geunter ???? Take your pills dude.
@autofigure008 ай бұрын
In highschool our first robotics team (which was THE "sport" of our engineering school) suffered badly because our main sponsor didn't want any other sponsors, they wanted to be the sole sponsor / aid for the team. they had a handful of engineers / people from their company who were mentors, but the team never had much money and wasn't run well, but we could never get additional help or insight since the team leader (who worked VERY high up at that company) didn't want any other companies or sponsors represented on our robot in the competitions and such. Our team HAD potential, but we were always restricted in many ways... Haas feels VERY similar.
@pete55348 ай бұрын
A character like Steiner will be missed in the short term, though I believe he’ll land on his feet and probably flourish in his next role. As far as Haas F1 goes, if Gene Haas doesn’t care why should we?
@S0RELOSER8 ай бұрын
Steiner was trash.
@drgbucks18 ай бұрын
@@S0RELOSER maybe so but he's the only reason people give 2 fucks about the Haas team
@pepepopo83678 ай бұрын
@@S0RELOSERSteiner is as famous as the other two drivers
@S0RELOSER8 ай бұрын
@@drgbucks1 most people are morons. So i dont care why they cared about Hass.
@S0RELOSER8 ай бұрын
@@pepepopo8367 so what. He’s clearly incompetent. How he got the job in the first place is a mystery. Then again, most of y’all defended Frank Williams daughter when she was ruining his legacy.
@alangood81908 ай бұрын
I've always supported the underdog teams punching above their weight- Hesketh, Brawn and Jordan being fine examples. It adds interest to the grid.
@RickZanardi8 ай бұрын
IMO these guys had a good first three years but pretty much have not punched at all since Australia 2019. 2-3 strong weekends in 2022 is all they put together after focusing solely on that season for over 2 whole years with the added luck of having a correct approach to the new rules from the get-go, and they were on the same level of performance as Williams two thirds into the season, after Williams had a shocking start with almost everything wrong in their concept. I think they punch way below their weight, with weight intended as talent and effort put in by their employees, who surely care about F1 to be working for such a mess of a company. Now could the same be said for Gene...
@bimonsolivar88988 ай бұрын
Haas hasn't punched above their weight for many years now, though :D
@suhdud46468 ай бұрын
The only jab that HAAS threw was in 2018 with a P5 and every other season thereafter, them not showing up to a race weekend would have achieve almost equal results.
@T_Mo2718 ай бұрын
Haas seems uninterested in throwing any sort of punch.
@nonofx318 ай бұрын
Gene Haas is the kind of boss to say : tell me what you need, i'll tell you how to deal without it...
@chenlingruimeetohsch45348 ай бұрын
not how to, more like i'll tell you to figure it out yourself without it
@torocars92277 ай бұрын
Gene has Ferrari engines and computers….. he gave a lot and risked a lot trusting on Steiner to do the job. You guys understand Ferrari was fastest power unit last season right?
@nonofx317 ай бұрын
@@torocars9227 You can have the best engine in the world, if you don't have the finance for a good base and operational structure (which is sh*t) you are going nowhere. That what Steiner told Gene all years and he is right. Seriously, there operation is NOT F1 level at all.
@nonofx317 ай бұрын
@@torocars9227 You clearly don't know what you're talking about. Without Steiner, there is no Haas team, Gene does nothing but talk. And yeah, i Heard about Newman-Haas. The famous and successful team founded by Paul Newman and Carl Haas, not Gene Haas ! (that how Haas is speeled by the way) As for Stewart-Haas, they did'nt see him for years ! This guy is just talking, nothing else. He should sell to Andretti.
@nickmaclachlan51787 ай бұрын
@@torocars9227 And do you understand that the fastest power unit didn't win the championship last season, right?
@nandkuj8 ай бұрын
I really feel for Steiner who is actually really underrated as a Team principle, considering the type of owner that Haas, he's done an excellent job in order to achieve whatever progress they have so far. He should be hot property right now.
@DR-st8rt7 ай бұрын
There's no way you can judge a team principal from the outside. He could be a terrible leader. Or a good one. Netflix has made him popular but that doesn't make him a better manager.
@leighcleary92977 ай бұрын
On what basis? He kept a shit team from folding and that's it.
@biggallcaps8 ай бұрын
This is all the more reason why I want Andretti in F1. I want a real American team that is better organised and is should be actually capable of winning. Haas hasn't been very successful in F1 and lately not even in Nascar (Baring the Xfinity series championship with Cole Custer).
@torocars92277 ай бұрын
Andretti teams sucks just look at past decade of result in Indycar….. dont belie the hype , believe the results .
@rgjmce6668 ай бұрын
Incredibly frustrating that a time with such low expectations exists but yet there's such opposition to Andretti having a place on the grid
@jellojoe007 ай бұрын
They don't want competition for Max.
@alxpluto8 ай бұрын
As the Race pretty much said on BBV10s, "you can have the best technical structure, amazing facillities and organization but it isn't worth anything if you don't have the money (investment)", saying that you're going to make a virtue of maximizing what you have and not invest further has NEVER been a stepping stone to the front in F1, usually its the stepping stone to a team going under or being sold
@aslamnurfikri76408 ай бұрын
Ironically you need money to build amazing facilities and hire best technical structure, something Gene Haas wouldn't do
@ronald38367 ай бұрын
Making the most out of the resources that you have is the cornerstone of nearly every successful endeavour. I cannot judge who is right, Haas or Steiner, but Haas has the money so he will just have to make the call. Absolutely normal.
@ronald38367 ай бұрын
@@aslamnurfikri7640the video explains they have that all.
@torocars92277 ай бұрын
Gene bought Fastest power unit in Ferrari. Steiner just had to plug in the power and the team runs itself for crying out loud. All he had to do was something he’s incapable of … technical department and aerodynamics
@torocars92277 ай бұрын
Can’t blame it the drivers this year. Karma. This one’s for Schumacher .
@tocsa120ls8 ай бұрын
What an odd way to end Drive To Survive.
@phillewis17498 ай бұрын
Haas could be prosperous, but when your owner isn't interested in actually going racing, i.e. the literal reason for F1, it makes F1s reluctance to Andretti (an actual multi series race team) look even more ridiculous.
@Ticklestein8 ай бұрын
8:15 - This is why Haas is firmly against Andretti joining. Haas is the only US team in F1, thus it doesn’t matter if he runs in the back, the US media will cover them favorably. If Andretti joins, that position is threatened.
@ount2528 ай бұрын
Anecdotally, none of my friends/family (we are in the U.S.) that are into F1 are HAAS fans. McLaren and Mercedes seem to be the top two teams chosen amongst U.S. fans. A lot of goodwill for HAAS amongst American fans was lost when they signed Mazepin and basically put the Russian flag on the car.
@Ticklestein8 ай бұрын
@@ount252 Yeah, but still. Red white and blue are also the American flag colors, also french and of the Netherlands. It’s still “the only US F1 team”. That has value. (I’m not saying it’s right to keep Andretti out on that reason, if this is the correct scenario, Haas is quite the coward for fearing competition. I’m just saying there’s an argument for it.)
@Thermalions8 ай бұрын
Assuming Liberty blocks an 11th team, the best thing for the sport would be Haas selling their entry to Andretti, but I can't see Gene wanting to sell to Andretti, knowing that they'd likely outperform what the Haas team has done within a season or two.
@torocars92277 ай бұрын
Selling why? Genes buying Ferrari power units and computer ? Fastest power unit in 2023. He’s fine with $.
@jakob.k_design7 ай бұрын
I am pretty sure that Gene just wants a ridicoulus amount of money and that is the reason it has not sold to Andretti yet. Hasas is essentially just the value of the grid spot as the team itself has no real value with most of the work being done externally and most of the knowledge being external as well (at Dallara and Ferrari). But I am pretty sure Gene ist to stubborn to see that and is still waiting for that giant payout.
@torocars92277 ай бұрын
@@jakob.k_design Andretti is noise. Besides it’s a mediocre organization.
@AlluSRJ8 ай бұрын
Steiner was the heart of Haas team and man who builded Haas to to glory in 2018 season
@brammachiels27558 ай бұрын
Glory? What?
@torocars92277 ай бұрын
Gene bought Fastest power unit in Ferrari. Steiner just had to plug in the power and the team runs itself for crying out loud. All he had to do was something he’s incapable of … technical department and aerodynamics . Heart maybe but he’s also the man pointing out drivers are its problems … not the case this year.
@LordSaliss8 ай бұрын
Another step in the slow march for Haas leaving F1. Haas keeps pulling money and resources away slowly, performance keeps dropping in relation, eventually Gene Hass will decide he doesn't want to be known as last place and finally just leaves. Probably leaving without learning the lesson he should have, that when you dont provide resources you dont get results. I give it 3-4 years before the exit. Once they see Audi as a new team consistently outperforming them for a year or two and incapable of understanding why.
@torocars92277 ай бұрын
Are you sure? So Fastest Powerunit that he bought isn’t enough ? Unfortunately Ferrari doesn’t sell Aerodynamic… or else he would have bought that too….
@RedmondBarryII8 ай бұрын
Gonna miss gunter, he was a great character and very open to the media.
@raymondlg78157 ай бұрын
In short words: He fired the guy that complained about his decisions* Ans hired the Guy that will comply with everything* Goodbye Haas* It was nice knowing ya
@myz06rocks8 ай бұрын
how is this a shock.... if any company ever performed the way HAAS did, they would have fired the leadership years ago
@BonoBronck8 ай бұрын
If F1 wants to grow, both financially and fan basewise, they need 2 American teams, not just one. That might increase the financial base even 30%. A win-win for everyone.
@wattanapoboonrueng88018 ай бұрын
Steiner did so much in getting sponsors and keeping the team alive while trying to appease an owner who hardly contribute enough for them to do little more then survive.
@torocars92277 ай бұрын
Gene bought Fastest power unit in Ferrari. Steiner just had to plug in the power and the team runs itself for crying out loud. All he had to do was something he’s incapable of … technical department and aerodynamics
@Spack0057 ай бұрын
Maybe Andretti hires Guenter as their TP as an added point of being a serious F1 team. It would also be nice for Guenter to have an owner that supports him.
@thetruebatman46328 ай бұрын
Gene just sell the team to Andretti and let some Americans with actual racing pedigree represent the country. This is the first sign that Gene actually cares about the success of his team in a long time.
@chriscollins5508 ай бұрын
But he doesn't. He doesn't want to add anymore money to it and he just wanted a yes man who will kiss he's ass.
@Duncan238 ай бұрын
And how exactly does this show he cares? He refuses to invest and got rid of somebody purely for disagreeing with him and arguing for more investment. He doesn't care about the team, just his ego and bottom line.
@lyleclarke6198 ай бұрын
Everyone's talking about how good a personality Steiner is and not how he was as a team principal. He's just a meme.
@torocars92277 ай бұрын
You get it bro. Exactly just a meme. He want able to blame his drivers for poor results anymore. Niko opened Genes eyes.
@sandalphoncpu8 ай бұрын
Gene Haas is far too involved with the team operations even though he had no clue how an F1 team works. History has proven any boss with an authoritarian approach is a recipe for failure, and that’s for teams with massive investments like Renault. Haas had virtually no investments, and that meant they’re stuck in a limbo. It doesn’t matter which team principal they have, unless Gene Haas provides any kind of investments to support the team’s needs and let the professionals do their job, they’ll forever be at the back. The owner of Force India is the proven fact that if the boss let the professionals do their jobs, the team as small as Haas could rise from a back marker to consistently fight for the best of the rest. And that’s before the budget cap
@jorgemiguelmilano15358 ай бұрын
Ahh yes. Nothing speaks America like micromanagement
@scottyskydog8 ай бұрын
Excuse me! You obviously aren’t aware of his racing background and success.. he’s also well known for providing his people with the necessary “backing and autonomy “ to run there teams. Steiner was given the chance to do so an season in an season out failed….
@scottyskydog8 ай бұрын
An how exactly did you arrive at your comments? Possibly with your handy dandy know it all crystal ball or the tried or true palm reader?
@sandalphoncpu8 ай бұрын
@@scottyskydog you do realize running an F1 team is an entirely different breed right? Gene evidently doesn’t even care about F1 as he stopped backing his team since the pandemic started. Heck even before the pandemic started, Gene reduced his investments by a lot and Haas’ performance fell off the cliff in the process. All he’s trying to do is to make his team successful and profitable with virtually no investment, which is about as ridiculous as it gets. Go through the history of the sport and you’ll see teams like Haas comes and goes because of that very reason.
@Chandlersidkwhattoput8 ай бұрын
The rocket powered mohawk video on this is going to slap
@robertharrington7038 ай бұрын
He may have been entertaining, but I don't think it's unfair to say the team has underperformed in the second half of every season they've entered relative to the first. With the cost cap and ATR, there's no excuse for that anymore. If it wasn't now it would've been mid-season Edit: it appears Gene just wanted a scapegoat. Right decision for the wrong reasons.
@chriscollins5508 ай бұрын
No changes will happen. The team will still be at the back till when ever Haas decided to sell it. He doesn't want to invest in the team. Haas wants nothing more than a advertising car.
@baselkhan32318 ай бұрын
Fair critique of his leadership. I would like to see the position viewed more like how the NBA values their coaches. The team principal/manager has their own approach; but In this case the team being the car and the driver. Give Guenther the Red Bull cars and the story is different etc. Your coaching won't matter if you have a bad combo of car and driver. Or in the case of RB, really good driver and machinery that is leaps ahead of the comp.
@chesspiece817 ай бұрын
I don't think anyone else could have helped Haas navigate the Fubar sponsorship issues, the 2020 season and helped keep them on course and viable. But I have also never felt that he was the guy to advance the team forward.
@ecyfoto8 ай бұрын
I’ve been waiting for years to see this happen. Bombshell announcement? Hardly.
@ffinerz8 ай бұрын
DTS fans are crying so hard rn
@JohnWiku8 ай бұрын
Gunther fok SMASHED the fucking DOOR on HAAS 😂😂
@eliotmansfield8 ай бұрын
sooner the kids get bored of dts, the sooner we will get f1 back.
@Dave-qn9dj8 ай бұрын
lmfao😂
@Andrew-rd4ig8 ай бұрын
@@JohnWiku😂😂😂
@whassupg898 ай бұрын
The producers are prob crying too 😂
@deech.dubois8 ай бұрын
This vid was F1 fast! Kudos! The best billboard for Team Haas was actually Gunther Steiner. They were talking about Haas because of … Gunther Steiner. He made a part of F1 more “interesting” and will be missed!
@ruijikisu8 ай бұрын
its so funny that haas has said 'theres no point in competing if were always in the back' but then tells andretti 'actually im ok with only running in the back'. if the latter is actually true and this is good enough for him and he really has no further ambitions, then i wonder if steiner didnt leave on his own, realising that there was nothing for him to do except manage a team with 0 ambitions to move forward.
@hoplit67648 ай бұрын
Team bound to be last by will of its owner is not what F1 needs in a time where more promising team is waiting around the corner...
@adityagupta75258 ай бұрын
The Haas racing team probably want to be competitive and have people hold a better view of them but the current situation is that because of Gene Haas, they are just holding up a slot for a racing team that could be competitive and has that desire to win.
@09csr8 ай бұрын
It is beyond me why he isn't selling or choosing to coown the outfit with Andretti, who actually have ambitions.
@wingracer16148 ай бұрын
Because he's making money. F1 is now like the NFL, MLB and even Nascar. You don't have to win to make money.
@neo17117 ай бұрын
@@wingracer1614strange, I always thought that f1 was the sport that turned billionaires into millionaires
@wingracer16147 ай бұрын
@@neo1711 It was but the cost cap plus the 200 mil buy in for new teams has made them far more valuable and profitable.
@speedyian31meale928 ай бұрын
I'm sad to see Gunter, his truthfulness to the media is going to be missed on the F1 grid going forward
@TerribleFire8 ай бұрын
Hass should sell to Andretti.. Haas clearly is sending that team down the drain.
@pooyakhalili4068 ай бұрын
It's a shame that Stiner is gone. He got the best out of an extremely limited team I hope we see him again in F1😔😔😔😔
@GreenHornet5538 ай бұрын
No he didn't. He's arguably been holding Haas back due to foolishly mismanaging Haas F1's limited funds.
@quigglyz8 ай бұрын
Steiner is the guy who fired Mag and Grosjean, saying they needed rookies. Then he fired Mazepin and Schumacher cuz “we need veterans.” 😂 Steiner is garbage.
@leedodge42278 ай бұрын
For the last few seasons, the Haas business model has been to cut expenses to a minimum and be there just for a full grid. No wonder they did not welcome the Andretti team.
@torocars92277 ай бұрын
Andretti is a mediocre organization. Don’t believe the hype , believe in the results . Indycar last decade has been horrible for Andretti organization.
@darkalman8 ай бұрын
It's important to point out that Steiner's tenure at Jaguar and Red Bull were not a success. Christian Horner said in an interview that there were a number of 'old guard' people that had been around since the Jaguar days that caused a lot of problems and wouldn't change how they did things so he ultimately sacked them all. Shortly there after Red Bull started winning everything. Steiner was fired from Red Bull around the time Christian was referring too... When Niki Lauda was made team boss at Jaguar Ford he asked, "are there any talented people at Ford?" And the reply was 'there's Günther.' Niki responded: "The guy lied!" Gunthers a character and I hope he gets another role in F1, but it was clearly time for him to go. Haas need a new direction.
@deancostello148 ай бұрын
Haas is the main reason why Andretti not being allowed in frustrates me so much. I know they'll take it so much more seriously.
@TrustworthyFox378 ай бұрын
Clicked on the thumbnail before I read anything, and after listening to the first 10 seconds, I needed to hear it again
@brightenupcc8 ай бұрын
Im sure F1 can bring in rules to regulate underperforming teams. The old qualify within 107% of the fastest car rule comes to mind. Haas isn’t that far behind though. Yet.
@Shawsza8 ай бұрын
Before RedBull where RedBull, they were Jaguar Racing which was essentially Ford's works team. Ford ran them in a really restricted way, constantly interfered and eventually refused to put more money in. Steiner was part of that, saw the writing on the wall and walked away even when offered the top job. With Haas I think he really had a vision and wanted to do build something, but Gene clearly doesn't want that. Smart man and a smart move to just walk away at this point. Hope he makes it back with another team, somewhere like Sauber would be perfect for him.
@RyanM818 ай бұрын
Would love to see Guenther as boss at Ferrari!! 😂
@DuckReach4328 ай бұрын
I was hoping there'd be an improvement in the cars this year. Hulkenberg has the record for the longest career in F1 without a win. It would be great to see him on the top step of the podium, even just for one time.
@philgiglio79228 ай бұрын
Even longer than the late Chris Amon?
@heinrichallen4768 ай бұрын
Gene wanted to sell his automation to Russia but when that hit the fan it was no longer a viable cost and he lost interest. He has not attended many races of late. I liked Steiner. Sell it all to Andretti and let's race.
@natureofnow8 ай бұрын
Komatsu feels like the right guy for the job. The fact he was at BAR means he knows how running a successful under-resourced team looks.
@suikogarden8 ай бұрын
Gone-ther Steiner
@mspeaks78 ай бұрын
From all his talks, i never imagined that he is a top notch principal. Commercial side yes he had his charms but the racing side of things not so much
@quigglyz8 ай бұрын
He is a walking meme machine and nothing else. Unfortunately for the DTS kiddies, memes don’t produce race wins 🤷♂️
@TheCebulon7 ай бұрын
Good explanation and insight, as always! Thank you.
@dustinabigan27768 ай бұрын
I think it's safe to say that Haas might not make it to 2026 if nothing significant changes. There's no direction or vision and now the team principal that's held up the team from the start is now gone as well. I think in situations like this where the team principal and team owner work this closely, blame is ultimately shared between both of them for how messy this got.
@Jake-kt4lk8 ай бұрын
Not guenther !! Who will be the drive to survive star now ?!
@sergeykuznetsov82918 ай бұрын
It will now be a comedy show featuring Ferrari.
@Lufex_8 ай бұрын
@@sergeykuznetsov8291Meanwhile at Ferrari HQ: 🤡🤡🤡🤡
@Yantrus8 ай бұрын
The problems with Haas go way deeper than the team principal, but this was long overdue.
@chriscollins5508 ай бұрын
With out stiner the team would have nothing.
@quigglyz8 ай бұрын
@@chriscollins550without Steiner the team will have a chance.
@chriscollins5508 ай бұрын
@@quigglyz no it won't. It's the same people in the team and the only difference is steiner was fighting for more money and better investment, we're now HAAS has a yes ass kisser in management now. Yet Haas still won't invest in the team. Steiner couldn't make gold out of shit but he brought in major sponsors and development money that Haas wouldn't give him. Watch them sponsors pull away from the team now he's gone. Haas will still be at the back of by the end of next session and the session after that and after that.
@Yantrus8 ай бұрын
@@chriscollins550 Just because someone was the right person in the past doesn't mean they're the right person in the present.
@chriscollins5508 ай бұрын
@@Yantrus no person will be right when they don't have the money to spend on the car or team. Haas has the money he just doesn't want to spend it. The f1 car is a cash cow and a walking advertising board for him and that's all he cares about.
@georgepappas46287 ай бұрын
It's unbelievable that a team owner can have such indifference in a sport like F1.
@CascadingDream8 ай бұрын
Oh no, now Haas might not win.
@quigglyz8 ай бұрын
Haas has a better shot at competing now that the shittiest TP is gone.
@remnl7 ай бұрын
Haas is a big name in the US, but F1 is on another level. He's a little delusional if he thinks he can achieve podiums with the current team setup. Steiner has gotten the maximum out of the team, and if Haas really wants to compete for podiums, you have to agree with Steiner, you need another approach.
@mikearend9978 ай бұрын
It's so sad when team owners, of any sport, just stand by and watch with no real interest in improving their team. They stand back, get the tax deductions and advertising, and allow the team to slowly die a sad death - which is what will happen. However, he knows the current value of F1 teams and he may hope to make a killing on the sale - let's hope he sells. I have no respect for the man.
@mdrlz8 ай бұрын
gutted but this might actually be huge for Guenther. bigger and better goals ahead
@shronklescrimblo698 ай бұрын
100% sure Gene is gonna sell the team to Andretti by next year
@chriscollins5508 ай бұрын
No he won't. Even when the team was at its lowest he refused to sell to Andretti. I don't think Haas even likes Andretti so most likely would look for someone else to sell it too.
@wingracer16148 ай бұрын
He ain't selling. Losing races does not mean losing money in modern F1. He's not selling a cash cow that keeps going up in value
@Nikelaos_Khristianos8 ай бұрын
I feel like this was brewing for a while. Discontent from Gene Haas over Steiner seemed quite palpable. But I don’t see the team making progress when they’ve only been standing still or going backwards for the last several years. I think this is how F1’s next back-marker is going to be formed.
@matiher04swag148 ай бұрын
Good, now take a step further and sell the team to Andretti 😂
@Mrneko87 ай бұрын
Komatsu is one of the most popular people among of japanese motor fans as well as Tsunoda so that japanese fans will support Haas even more. although we miss Guenther Steiner also.
@semjonignatov13408 ай бұрын
Gene is one of the reasons F1 doesn't allow more teams. If more teams would be managed like this the sport would slowly but surely die
@philtucker12248 ай бұрын
It has surely been incredibly frustrating for Gunther to wanting to push for wins with very little money to spend and an owner that doesn’t require victories to satisfy his personal vision. In that respect you could say he is persisting in taking up precious space on an exclusive grid, that another team (for instance Andretti) might make for better competition.
@scottmeredith33598 ай бұрын
Not the off season news I expected, but I can’t say I haven’t wondered for a while if he’s the right guy in that job
@absenttk42137 ай бұрын
As a contrast of owners understanding their teams look at Gene Haas vs Lawrence Stroll. Stroll is frequently seen at races and clearly actually spends time on the ground trying to understand how he can push his team upward, and it’s working. Haas, from the very start, is a barely visible figure in his own F1 team, who seems not to spend much time at all in the team garage. His apathy matches his teams struggle to gain ground. Edit: and for the record, I think Komatsu is just as screwed.
@payamkhobdeh14718 ай бұрын
I kind of think Komatsu is likely more responsible for the teams underwhelming performance more so than the principle.
@AKK5I8 ай бұрын
What makes you think that
@payamkhobdeh14718 ай бұрын
Who do you think was responsible for seeing the cars setup right? Do you really think Steiner is in there developing race strategies and analyzing data?
@Mariushaas-zb4dm7 ай бұрын
@@payamkhobdeh1471did u know haas in 2018 was 5th in the constructors and steiner was team principal that time? Obviously u dont
@payamkhobdeh14717 ай бұрын
@@Mariushaas-zb4dm so what’s your point? Steiner is great and should keep or Komatsu is great and Steiner should go?
@Mariushaas-zb4dm7 ай бұрын
@@payamkhobdeh1471 steiner is good not great, actually haas would just be even worse then they will sell the team
@queenanne59178 ай бұрын
Well despite how much he's loved, he has delivered the square route of fuck all
@kyuzotatsuya96418 ай бұрын
Beginning of the end for Haas?
@Lastname69558 ай бұрын
Had it ever really started?
@neoamaru7 ай бұрын
it just occurred to me that this is Alpine's one and only chance to grab both Guenther Steiner nd Mattia Binotto, the former as team principal, and the latter as chief engineer..
@frankdatank50028 ай бұрын
I agree with gene. They proved a few years back this model can do good but since then they have been last. That’s the leadership not the model. Building your own brake duct isn’t gonna keep you out of last place Gunther. Hopefully he will do tv announcing. Have rated R broadcast haha
@robertharrington7038 ай бұрын
Teach him Dutch (he already speaks like 5 languages, what's one more?)and send him there, problem solved
@nelsonglover39638 ай бұрын
On the other hand, look at what the other bottom teams are doing. Williams is spending as much as possible on facilities, Sauber is getting its own engine supplier, and Alpha Tauri is starting to use more Red Bull parts and seems to he finding genuine pace. That kind of investment/restructuring is very difficult to beat just with restructuring and better leadership
@Hamisxa8 ай бұрын
@@nelsonglover3963 not Alfa. It's Sauber
@nelsonglover39638 ай бұрын
@@Hamisxaoh no, a small mistake!
@patrickracer437 ай бұрын
If Gene wants the team to be "more efficient" then they need to pick a full base, either go full-time in Kannapolis, Branbury or Marinello
@gonzalosanchez63878 ай бұрын
Good move from Steiner. Exit on his own terms and potentially save his career
@tk646818 ай бұрын
I like Gene hopefully he’ll still be somewhere in F1
@Biguce908 ай бұрын
Gene is the reason Haas f1 hasn’t gone anywherw
@ASIceman7 ай бұрын
Gene has officially said to F1 that Haas is not for sale. Komatsu is different from Steiner, he is more a numbers guy and is an engineer. He is much more about car performance than Steiner.
@danocluanaigh99918 ай бұрын
Love Günther but with retrospect the Mazepin/Schumacher gambit was madness, saved them enough resources to make a mediocre car in 22, get a (half) decent driver pairing back, and then still end up last.
@maxvandenoort86908 ай бұрын
Top level sporting teams are not only potentially big money but it’s a ticket too some of the most exclusive events and meetings. Not many people would know Haas without f1 and this gives Gene a big reputation win at the top end of business and society. Similar with football clubs, massive loss makers but you can have thousands of people cheer your name
@mixmaster10798 ай бұрын
When you have a team owner that only cares about turning up, Never going to work eventually team members all feel let down then the turntable of staff happens. He should have just been title sponsor, Or now sell it to andretti who by all measures is passionate about racing and genuinely wants his teams to do well.
@Minx58928 ай бұрын
Steiner will be at Autosport International at the NEC this weekend. I'm going. Its gonna be fun seeing everyone come up to him.
@swissheartydogs7 ай бұрын
It’s a shame. Gunther is F1, F1 is Gunther! I will not attend the events/GP without the spirit and leadership of Gunther. A true team should hire him soon.
@CJinSD17 ай бұрын
It's pretty funny that there needs to be an explanation for the firing of the guy who kept Romain Grosjean for as long as he could afford to, who brought in Rich Energy as title sponsor, who got in bed with the Mazepins, and who ran a team that didn't have cars prepared for free practices more often than all of the other teams combined. It may or may not have been his fault that the cars were often barely competitive, but it was certainly his fault that the team had the worst execution in F1.