Guido van Rossum - Python Language - PyCon 2016

Speaker: Guido van Rossum
Python Language
Slides can be found at: speakerdeck.co... and github.com/PyC...

[@moonlight06082013]

so nice of you to mention the change i made in Babylon university.now its a big intrest for many students ..thank you for everything wish you sir the best

[@coolghoul4874]

When I first began programming in Python a few years ago, a friend of mine who is a developer suggested that I go with version 2.x because all of the libraries existed, I'm so glad that I didn't listen. Python 3.x has greatly surpassed 2.x . It's the place to be.

[@drygordspellweaver8761]

It’s the same language bro

[@zusdd8613]

it's pretty nice that have subtitles on the video. i think we can benefit a lot from it .

[@danielswearson1360]

Python 3.6 is awesome, keep it up!

[@chidambaram_annamalai]

Python syntax seems to be moving in the direction of Rust (in format strings, type annotations, function declarations and variable declarations)..

[@TheAmbrazura]

Probably influence of Armin Ronacher from Austria.

[@spacenodus7959]

So the 2.7 end of life party didn't happen unfortunately , i wanted to watch it

[@ChrisLeeX]

Beautiful keynote.

[@thomasgandalf4111]

well I found it kind of lame... seems the BDFL is running out of steam a little bit

[@VaShthestampede2]

He's 60 years old. What are your expectations for 60 year olds?

[@richlysakowski1415]

@@VaShthestampede2 He's let out more steam in his life than you'll do in 15 lifetimes. And it is not stinky exhaust like your ageism attitude.

[@dragolov]

Respect, Maestro!

[@WasiMaster]

He left his BDFL role because of the walrus operator (:=)

[@izd4]

Justified, what a nasty operator

[@Bengt.Lueers]

31:01 ... So Guido van Rossum basically invented agile. Who knew?

[@ChrisLasher]

The Q&A session was not included. Will it be uploaded separately? If so, please provide a link to that session in the description of this video.

[@vinc456]

No, there was no Q&A due to time constraints.

[@edchelstephens]

Thank you Van

[@MrMikeWyn]

Wonderful!

[@jeffreymcmahan4989]

"I'm no Mark Zuckerberg..." I guess we'll have to agree to disagree, Guido. You are 10 times the programmer, innovator, the artist, that Zuckerberg is.

[@about2mount]

That is true, but even Guido recognizes the power of Php. Iv'e been a Python developer sense it began and likewise a master of Php, but I can admit defeat when comparing web technology to Php on any level with my Python. But Python is far superior at other things of which Facebook and Php both recognize, and that is Pythons ability to monitor any website server and client tech.

[@winnerwinnerporkbellydinner]

​@@about2mount PHP is literally a programming language made for the web Python isn't.

[@about2mount]

@@winnerwinnerporkbellydinner Tell this to Google or KZbin and they will laugh at you. Don't get me wrong but Both make use of C language dominantly. And both can manipulate HTML, CSS and J.S. exactly the same in parts, chunks and or from functions and classes. Both are also Server Side Languages. KZbin here was also at one time Php, Google bought them and converted all to Python in about a weeks time. Lol I use both also. Both are about the same and neither has any advantage over the other.

[@winnerwinnerporkbellydinner]

@@about2mount I am just saying, PHP was built for the web, Python wasn't. I know that the C family of languages can be used for the backend.

[@ericsalituro3746]

There was no Q&A due to time constraints.

[@vcool]

You mean due to poor organization...

[@spacenodus7959]

Did the pycon 2020 really happen ?

[@iznk]

Same T-shirt AGAIN ))

[@probhakarsarkar2430]

I think in this universe python happened and people will remember it!

[@YaZhuang]

good story at 40:42

[@bp56789]

I cri everytim

[@drasticfred]

#gilectomy Instead of locking whole interpreter, better of lock variables/objects, upside down isolation for threads can be achieved. Introduce a bitmap table for vars/objs mark them locked/unlocked etc. i.e encouraging local vars/objs usage only touch globals while returning. Don't mess with message passing either.

[@obed818]

Nice talk

[@riofteldo6312]

OMG, thank you Guido, FUCK PYTHON 2!

[@surajcollection_121_]

I am watching this video in 2024 😅

[@Shockszzbyyous]

underscores in numbers, wtf. what would it be good for ??

1000000007 is a little bit hard to read. 1_000_000_007 is much more readable.

[@Shockszzbyyous]

you got a point, but why couldn't they make it a comma instead of underscore ?

The problem with comma is clearly that if you would assign num = 1,000,000,007 it would became a tuple num = (1, 0, 0, 7).

[@Shockszzbyyous]

yep indeed :D

[@hansen4134]

java has it, and it's pretty handy :)

[@ald7248]

No Python 2.8 because there is no need? Perhaps the BDFL would care to explain why the company that employs him continues to use Python 2.X in production...

[@0007Shawn]

look, it's God himself

[@thomasgandalf4111]

sadly no news about Python 2.8. Why doesn't Guido listen to the community?

[@notangryjustdismayed]

"no news about python 2.8" : sure, there is news! the news is that its not going to happen. "why doesn't Guido listen to the community?": he does, almost all of the time. but he can't move the language forward if the core devs are stuck updating an incompatible branch of the language.

[@thomasgandalf4111]

+Not A Robot (Maybe) so why does he keep working on said incompatible version (3.x)?

[@thewatcher_476]

+Thomas Gandalf because 3.x is better and the feature. 2.x is the incompatible, outdated version

[@thomasgandalf4111]

+TheWatcher _ what comes first can never be incompatible

[@thewatcher_476]

Thomas Gandalf oh, so windows 3.1 is not incompatible?

[@mozinator1]

Whats wrong with just making python 2.8 that is python 2.7 compatible... Lots of people will be happy because they don't have to port lots of old WORKING legacy code. If it ain't broke.. don't fix it

[@BTHobbies]

At the end of the day, Python core developers are going to work on what makes *them* happy (see talk above), That happens to be Python 3, not Python 2.

[@gyermolenko]

exactly, dude. 2.7 ain't broke. No reason to "fix" it with 2.8, right?

[@thomasgandalf4111]

totally agree! Let's make it happen. I'm about to fork Python 2.7. Who's in?

[@thomasgandalf4111]

+gyermolenko the problem is Guido broke 2.7 when he announced end of support by 2020. usually the one who breaks stuff is the one to fix it. Guido thinks 3.x is a fix but it is not. it is an even bigger bug because it is not backwards compatible. Well I guess the community will have to take over...

[@mmmhorsesteaks]

then don't? if it all works why do you want 2.8? if you really want to update, why not to 3.5?

[@jparks6544]

who knew he was a Obangyomama communist?

[@AureliusR]

who knew there were people as stupid as you?