GUILD REWARDS UPDATE | Exploit Fix - Thoughts? Recommendations? Ideas?

[@TheNightcrowsNest]

So this is now after we got our gems back.... but goat still needs to fix the real problem. My suggestion is to put a 24 hour Cool down on all guild rewards after joining. This would prevent exploit of any resources, not just gems. Also if goat did not undo the heir potions back to gems....you are correct in thinking lots of people would have quit the game.....and in the end.....there wouldn't have been a game left......we the community came together in a large way and did something amazing....and I am happy to have been part of it. The power of the people!

[@michaellabuda]

Make the 24-hour timer on collecting in the new guild. That way, whenever you leave or get kicked out on purpose, then you have to wait a day

[@ThomasClark-e9u]

I been playing for just over a year, and I’ve watched almost every video, thank you Lion Roar! I’m not a free to play player but I am a cheap to play, I think with this change it’s just trying to push players to spend more high amounts of money. If they were gonna put other ways to get diamonds, they should implemented at the same time. I’ve been dropping the off the game the last few weeks. But I will personally will stop playing and paying if this stays the same. I rely on these free diamonds to try and keep up with the higher spenders. A timer is a great idea! Up for that if it comes to it. My entire server and guild is ready to walk away. Your last statement on the game is 100% true. People will just walk away

[@ianp776]

I might have been ok with turning off the tap for a predetermined time to implement a cool down for guild hoppers. This is uninstall territory.

[@DeanaChilde]

Thank you Lion Roar for putting up this video . We have watched other players with a platform quit the game and as a result lost the voice for the people . We don’t have any whales in our guild , it’s a mixture of cheap to play and free to play . We have walked away from a top 50 game to do the weekend log out , have cancelled our subscriptions and the suggestions to goat . We are now discussing walking away as a whole guild together ( we are a family ) to play another game . Thanks for the suggestion😊

[@ionutcomaneci3972]

the most valuable resource of OUR players is the time spent in the game. If you will not re-enter the chests with 200 diamonds for free = it is not worth the time lost on the game. You can only prepare for at least 45% of the players to stop being active on a daily basis. Protect the "big spendthrift and whiny whales", i.e. a maximum of 10% of the players and stay only with them. What reason do I have as a simple player to spend money when my game mode is not protected???

[@SelinaStubner]

I'm absolutely for the 24 timer for guild changing. They were able to get the players a cool down for practicing GC for days if they switch Guilds, so they can't tell me that they are not able to do a one day timer. Hope they will do it and give us the diamonds back, otherwise this game might die soon.

[@aaronsisko8840]

A good guild will bank 1k diamonds a day from chests. That's roughly $13 in value, or close to $400 a month that's been taken from us. GOAT is DELUSIONAL if they think the energy potions compensate. Real easy fix, 72 hour cool down when going from clan to clan. AND! Ban the players who did the exploit. There is no reason to take the Diamonds away other than GREED.

[@christianslater2736]

exactly, spot on fix, its just an excuse to screw us over

[@matiasdelarosa7338]

Gracias Lion Roar Gamer por tus ideas, ojala te escuchen. Yo soy Free to Play y cuando he podido he gastado dinero en el juego lo he hecho, pero este cambio duele ya que he logrado a traves de mucho tiempo ser más fuerte pero ahora costara muchisimo seguir creciendo. Tu idea de temporizador en los cofres seria una gran solucion.

[@blairhesse6918]

Duuuude people are pissed. I've never seen a backlash this bad as this for a mobile game.

[@deathbyentropy4785]

Suggestion as Lionroar stated: I'd agree with the approach to not be able to get/collect guild rewards for 3 days after joining a guild; problem solved Also: yeah the rewards are far from equivalent. And if you would use all diamonds for potions you would at least do it in heir packs or similar at ratios of 599/50=12 diamonds per potion which would make the equivalent potion amount 200/12=17. But: Suggestion 2:nobody needs infinite potions (cause then you lack other items like roses and rings that you need alongside potions to make use of that) So at the very least they would need to give out a selection box between certain items (like you can select between roses, rings, potions and gold)

[@JoséSousa-n7e]

Another source for Diamond aquisition equals to more Diamond packs for cash

[@MrSilentDave]

1. I don't like the change, at all. 2. Heir potions are NOT equivalent value items, as you can do only ONE thing with them. Raise heirs. With diamonds you are able to buy almost every other item and event packs for raising up in said events and earn different rewards, so no, there is no such thing as an equivalent change here. diamonds cannot be changed with anything else, because they have the highest value in this game.

[@megatron818]

They could even make it that once you join a guild you have to be in it for a set amount of time before you can collect guild rewards.

[@aether7245]

I had suggested 50 Diamonds per 20% of a expedition bosses hp, or just a 800 diamond daily login bonus until they get a better system. This even hurts people who pay small amount, like i normally do the 5$ monthly pass and am willing to put 5ish-10ish here and there. I feel like that fair, kinda in the style of an old mmo subscription. But the majority of my in game resources are from the 800ish daily guild diamonds. I already told them i will not be paying for anything at all until that is made right in some way.

[@RAW_Reality]

The craziest thing about this is that when you join a new guild, it was already programmed into the game that you had to wait a week to be able to play in GC with the new guild... A FREAKING WEEK. It could've easily been just a round, not 3. That said, if you're mandating a rule like that, then the rewards a guild earns through bosses could be put into a similar cooldown effect, but something more akin to 24 hours makes a whole lot more sense than just removing any ability for ANYONE to ever get gems that way. You're punishing everyone for the actions of a few people. It's a no-brainer as to why that'd upset so many people.

[@casinocalislots1800]

Make it so you can join and leave guilds whenever but you have to be in a guild for a certain amount of time before you can collect those types of rewards

[@AandQ7]

It's slap in face . F2p players like me can easily feels the pain. But the most worst thing is that they are giving 4 hairs portions instead of 200 diamonds 😅😂 T F****ing game I've ever played

[@Ryder2922]

Also the whole, we believe we are giving comparative rewards...4 heir potions?? Really??

[@FahimNewaz]

the suggestion you have mentioned was the simplest and most effective one and this should come to anyone's mind whenever someone think of a solution of that problem. But the solution they provided is like, cutting off my head because of I am having a headache. the game was already dying. Last year when they merged 3 servers into 1, we had some players. But currently in that server, we have 9-10 active players including me, others have quitted the game. I am a f2p and spend a lot of time on this game, slowly and patiently building my team. But with this current update, its impossible for me to advance any further. My guild was a casual guild but ranked 27/32 at last season's GC despite of 95% of the players were f2p/ cheap to play. Now all the players including the Guild master will quit the game because of this update. Goat games did the unthinkable, they made the whole community raging and quitting and this game will die faster than ever.

[@krs80krs]

One more solution - put 24hr timer on guild activities for new members, so they neither can take the bosses down, neither get the chests. This way, the new members can look around the guild in order to find the best suited for them, but can not benefit the first day.

[@treyPizzleGoatStatus]

Easy fix! Just put a cap on how many chests each guild account can accumulate daily. If the max is 7 for a guild. No account should be allowed to go over 7 guild chests daily. Regardless of what guilds you hop to, once you get your 7 chests for the day you are done! Put a lock on it and give us our gems!

[@agranshgamer]

Bro, only a small team can make its team bigger than diamonds and we are determined like a man, if we don't get diamonds from the guild's chest then where will we get diamonds from

[@leew9328]

This nerf doesn't even address the fact that guild hopping can change which session of various of events like Sails & Sabers. exploiters can session hop til they find a session they are ranked highly in.

[@Final_State]

I'm done unless this is reverted.

[@iamfake221]

I think there should be a condition like players can claim guild rewards after having a certain amount of contribution points

[@brendabohannon2529]

An easy fix to limit guild hopping would be to limit how often you can change guilds and add a time limit before you can collect diamond like 1 to 3 days. Taking away the diamonds is a horrible reaction to punish all players because 1 exploited the system.

[@timdude2368]

Players did the same thing in RAID SHADOW LEGENDS, and RAID fixed it the same way as LION Roar suggested, NOW RAID SHADOW LEGENDS IS A MONEY making game if there ever was one, IF they fixed it IN a DAY and banned the players for a MONTH then so can GOAT GAMES!!

[@silatra]

They had a cooldown timer! Has none of you ever noticed? At the beginning of an account I wanted to see which guild was best and checked into different ones. After three exits I had to wait for a day to join another. Also how can a team of developers not have the idea Lion Roar presented here. Its quite hard to believe. They put on some doe eyes with this letter, asking for help, trying to make believe they thought hard about it and this was the best solution. They want us to feel involved and cared about, but then nothing happens, people forget, new people will come and play and maybe pay, cause they don‘t remember times when there were different rewards. God, I miss times when you paid once and had a fully developed game to enjoy.

[@Breezax]

Most Mobile Games have the ' Timer' Effect. If you leave the Guild/Clan/Alliance/Tribe etc. Over the years I have experienced this with many Games, in many Game Genres. So this is not a strange 'new' concept😂😎👍

[@Sam-ye1tv]

I want those diamonds back

[@kevinkusmirek4813]

A timer on an account switching guilds would be an easy fix. This current change negatively impacts the entire community and will just cause a mass exodus if not reverted quickly. FTP players will have no chance in this game without the guild chest diamonds.

[@GabrielSilva-sj3vb]

Se eles não botarem os baús com os diamantes de novo muita gente vai parar dê jogar éra o único recurso que agente tinha pra conseguir participar dos eventos

[@emtiazhasan1652]

Like new player as me That was the only big source of diamond, all the campaign and beast fest required a lot of diamond to keep up to the game It is ridiculous to stop that

[@Magnus-hf7ft]

Anxiety is the wrong word ANGER and FRUSTRATION are the right words.

[@Hachi496]

Do you have any latest trait guides ?

[@kostastsistr5938]

When it live in one guild and go to another he will have like punishment 7 days no chess rewards to anybody guild.....!

[@shadow-Phoenix637]

Most hilarious thing is 200 diamonds = 4/5 energy balls 😂😂😂 if they give 3/4 summoning stones in every guild chest that will be equivalent...... totally money grabbing game .......soon all players leave this if the F2P leave then P2P players also loose interest and leave the game .......also I request to everyone pls give 1 * rating for this game in playstore or applestore to show them what will happen to be too much greedy

[@ATILA3D]

people on my server already start to quit the game and start to ask for refund the money what they payed earlier .... gg goat ...

[@DBTT1000]

Also, off topic but when did they change the intimacy for companions and why? Went from 10K to 16K to hit mythic level.

[@pescalmeria]

Es totalmente injusto lo que han hecho… nosotros los menos fuertes no tenemos culpa de que las ballenas no se aclaren. Estoy seguro que ellos se hicieron fuertes recolectando esos diamantes que ahora nos han quitado a nosotros… es totalmente injusto y no podremos seguir creciendo en este juego como antes. Muchos de nosotros abandonaremos el mismo. NO HAY DERECHO!!!

[@zaidsiddiquie7836]

Dude how to join ur server its not showing

[@331Nes]

I depend on those diamonds to stay close to the better players and the whales. I can't spend much on this or any game. The cool thing about this game is that I don't have to spend a lot to stay competitive. The guild I'm in is very competitive and I love it. But for me to keep up or to stay close to the upper level players I needed those diamond rewards among other things. I honestly feel like I'm losing the desire to play this game now. Every time I find a good legit way to keep up it gets taken away. Please bring the diamonds back!!!

[@LotroJahrell]

My guild has already had 4/5 of the top players leave the game. Our server is 96 days old and we now only have about 20 people regularly play on the whole server. I am now the top player at 4175M might and the next 5 active players are at 1200M might. Especially with changes like this I fear for the future of the game. Anyone who said something before they left said they left because the game is a cash grab that doesn't care about players or player experience.

[@Final_State]

Planning on giving more diamonds is another goat lie. Just put a timer lockout on it. But as we have seen numerous times Goat is not quite competent at programming.

[@intrigueknight1120]

I quit playing Bloodlines a few weeks ago along with my wife. Tired of the "Developers" nerfing every that is good, or increasing redemption store prices. There have been some champions that are good, then they seem to nerf them. The stupid "Ruins Conquest" and "Radiant Luxis" events were nothing but garbage. They were constantly reducing rewards or changing rewards. This is yet ANOTHER stupid developer move yet again, which makes me glad I quit playing. I still enjoy watching Lion Roar Gaming videos 😁

[@646_]

I see it going the same way Blizzard has been doing with World of Warcraft, stop listening to ther playerbase and loosing alot of player for it then trying to fix it so the game don't die. When at that point people already lost the respect for the game. Bloodline already have it hard enough with players and the last thing they/we need is players quitting. I think the best way to solve it is setting a timer on 24h for collecting guild chests. Feels like their idea of "developing more channels for diamond aquisition" is adding more "need to do" things to the list of daily activities, or force people to watch more adds.

[@isaiahjones8618]

AFK Arena does this where they prevent you from guild hopping

[@touseefgolandaz2757]

We want diamonds, diamonds

[@ameersayed3235]

We like bloodline only due to its fairness of f2p player even can compete with p2w player , but due to this change f2p has no chance to play , they should quit the game

[@Sunmi_is_art]

The fact tbey call the energy potions "equivalent" would be laughable if it weren't so enraging. I have over 135k energy potions and that number is always going up and never down - eyes of Abyss has already gotten me set on energy potions for the rest of my time in the game. I never have enough bouqets to make the total of potions actually go down longterm. Meanwhile, the diamonds can be saved and spent on whatever I ACTUALLY need, namely events that give much better rewards. And I don't buy for a second that Goat isn't aware of this, they have been seeking ways to nerf player progression for a while now after events like fishing and beast feast actually made players happy. They couldn't have that and have since been seeking every way they can to alienate their players. I know for that part they just are trying to limit free progression over paid but that's the exactly the direction no one wanted them to go. The game was already pay to win enough when they added sprites and now it just keeps getting worse every time they change something.

[@iamfake221]

A lot of players from our server talking about to quite the game after this change.....

[@bbrodzinski733]

Leave the diamonds, put a guild cooldown. This is the devs being lazy not wanting to code their game.

[@pipslegacy8553]

Recommandation: uninstall the game, the dev doesn't worth it. Even if they give us back the diamonds chest, it's done to me. It's been a while since GOAT just send us some sh***y event, they don't hear us for a very long time, the quality of life feature are inexistent. Now from what I can tell anyone. Leave them alone and watch them burn their stupid game

[@CoconutQueen-o6p]

With regards to energy potions they are pointless with current event

[@oscdoe215]

Another reason why I been thinking about quitting the game. Greediness.

[@timdude2368]

They should NOT HAVE CHANGED GETTING DIAMONDS!! I'M FTP SO I count on getting those extra diamonds. This change really hurts players like myself. If the Game designers don't come up with an alternative source of plentiful diamonds, players like myself who rely heavily upon this resource as do MOST players, I CAN SEE A BIG PROBLEM FOR THE OVERALL BALANCE OF THE GAME!! I count on getting those extra diamonds to use them on the wheel and the companion Chase. Goat Games Don't ruin a good thing. It's NOT like we're getting that many diamonds in the first place. If you aren't in a VERY active Guild your NOT GOING TO get that many diamonds if any. BAD MOVE GOAT GAMES!!, unless you give everyone extra diamonds for doing your dailies??????

[@timdude2368]

RAID SHADOW LEGENDS HAD THE SAME PROBLEM THEY FIXED IT BY BANNING THE PLAYERS WHO CAUSED THE PROBLEM FOR A MONTH, SO IF A GREEDY GAME LIKE RAID CAN FIX THIS KIND OF THING IN A DAY OR TWO THEN GOAT GAMES SHOULD BE ABLE TO DO THE SAME!!

[@kylelee6164]

Honestly, the real reason why goat game is making this change is because they want more players to recharge {more money for them). The exploit is another BS reason they make up to defend themselves against F2P players. Goat knew this change would piss off many people, which is the reason why they pretend to ask for feedback. They are testing the water. To sum this up, it is just another strategy to make more money for the company.

[@kylelee6164]

Nothing is equivalent to diamond.

[@Guscr001]

-much text: items of equivalent value? 4 potions for 200 diamonds, what madness is that, if they are free, how are people going to buy that item. They think that by putting that price, it is really worth it O_O, in the last heirs event I have spent about 8,000 and I still have more than 30,000, come on, they have seen that in the guilds they can get about 1,000 daily and they don't like it, they will also be upset that with those guild diamonds they manage to overcome the cooking event that usually costs about 18,000 to get a companion and champion. It is supposed to benefit the players and what it does is punish those who do not pay, what will happen with this, as in every game that makes decisions like this, those who pay are happy and those who do not pay... they delete the game to leave the whales alone on a merged server. Well, they should allow us to sell in-game items for diamonds if they take away the currency that is obtained as a reward, well...if we have 30,000 potions (7,500 packs of 4), it would be 1,500,000 diamonds...that would be equivalent. It would be better if you could only receive guild rewards once per day, like in other games, if you have received it and you change, then you cannot receive the rewards from the new guild. Having a timer is normal, but better in more active games, when I started the game and wanted to join the first guild, I joined one with 40 members and they had all been offline for more than 7 days, so having to wait 24 hours to go to another guild and pray that it was active, is very stressful, that time I jumped to 10 different guilds until I found an active one... it would have been 10 days without a guild. It's like clan war, when you change guilds, you can't join the war for a week, so that can also be done with the rewards as I said before. -As I've been stopping the video to write...I see I'm not the only one thinking about the timer on rewards.

[@LionRoarGamer]

Yeah perhaps the timer should just go on the chest instead of the ability to join a guild.

[@HowlWindclaw]

Quitting the game if things do not change

[@anthonymalliris2089]

Why take away our diamonds that is just stupid. Well I guess I won't be playing very much longer. I agree with if you leave the guild you need to wait 24 hours before joining another Guild. I think it's kind of stupid that you join another Guild and have to wait a week to join in on Guild Conquest as it is. Bring back the diamonds and fix the other issues in the game.

[@anthonymalliris2089]

Developers change too much, when they should be working on bugs, and what they have already screwed up in the game.

[@Avatard101]

Yeaa I think ima have to pass devs been 💩💩 for awhile

[@nowayVII]

The change is completely nonsense and shit