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@TitanicGaming328 жыл бұрын
When I was playing this song for the first time in Rock Band, at 5:10 playing the green notes and seeing what's ahead, I'm quickly trying making a decision in my head on whether or not I should just stop what I'm doing, walk outside and think about life for a couple hours.
@kurtwoyma778110 жыл бұрын
The Guitar Hero version looks like so much fun!
@phoxache9 жыл бұрын
Adi Lynk thank you! (I created that note track for GH) ;)
@ryderwilson44169 жыл бұрын
Rip Storm it is WAYYYYY better harder the better Rip Storm u play xbox on gh3 or ps3?
@kurtwoyma77819 жыл бұрын
*clears throat nervously* ummm.... playstation 2....
@ryderwilson44169 жыл бұрын
Rip Storm o rly? u like bucketheads or hammer ons? gh3 is batter rb3 is sad
@RMarsupial9 жыл бұрын
Ryder Wilson The Rock Band chart is WAAAY harder...
@GHAddict11210 жыл бұрын
The GH3 chart of TTFAF is like Slow Ride compared to RB3 lmao
@ToastyMann6 жыл бұрын
But the Rock Band chart doesn't have synth death.
@angelicbeast779310 жыл бұрын
The guitar hero track is much more fun to play. But I give props to rock band because it has more support for friends rather than just two players.
@SunnyDispsition10 жыл бұрын
TTFAF - Guitar Hero Ground & Pound - RockBand3 Rock band is also closer to what the song actually is like.
@Soccer129610 жыл бұрын
i like gh3 chart better though. its more playable. some of the stuff on rb is incredibly impossible.
@kolja78310 жыл бұрын
Soccer1296 RB is ruthless gh3 makes things possible and fun. I still prefer rock band...
@Soccer129610 жыл бұрын
GabenSweat you have to be very good at tapping if you wanna do well on rb version. otherwise its a struggle to just pass even if you're a good player. but imo gh3 was like the best engine to play on ever so thats also why i like it :P
@kolja78310 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'm fine with either game, its just rock band is my thing... + I honestly can't do any of this. The best thing I've done is 100% crazy train solo (not even fc ;-;).
@kolja78310 жыл бұрын
GabenSweat Now I can tap this song 95% 70% speed. Gitin btr m8
@DaTerriblwScouty10 жыл бұрын
Eh, the RB3 version can't be that hard 1:33 ok, maybe not 5:10 fuck it
@TR1PLE_69 жыл бұрын
5:10 - 6:00 -> Just what the fuck was Harmonix on with that shit?! I can barely get even 60% on that solo
@RMarsupial9 жыл бұрын
RockBandAddict666 Is seems pretty accurate though. At least, the GH one seems horribly undercharted on some parts. It is fucking impossible though.
@JJStylies9 жыл бұрын
R. Ringshifter just can never get the beggining on that rockband chart...... no matter what i do.
@JSpeedCuber9 жыл бұрын
+GoldenGamer3000 same
@danielnutt97 жыл бұрын
Harmonix Didnt make this chart its a custom
@GoulartGH7 жыл бұрын
harmonix DID make that chart, it's an official DLC.
@xXGameBoySeanXx12 жыл бұрын
the first lyrics: " smashing through the boundaries" my first though: " am I listening to battery? "
@JVR108939 жыл бұрын
Wow. The Rock Band chart actually looks harder. That never happens.
@JSpeedCuber9 жыл бұрын
that always happens
@aidensalgoathlons22475 жыл бұрын
⚠️ WARNING: Guitar Hero DLC was removed on April 1st, 2014 when I was just 11. If you want to play this song, you’ll have to do it on RB3 or RB4.
@charlesajones779 жыл бұрын
Holy Jesus. Maybe it's just that I'm used to GH, but that RB chart was insane. I even own this album, and I know they only record 5-10 seconds at a time. But still...
@kylebusch4528 Жыл бұрын
All the comments on the TTAF chart comp: the guitar hero one is so much better because it’s harder All the comments on this video: the guitar hero one is so much better because it’s easier
@JessieTheFox9 жыл бұрын
Rock Band's Expert difficulty curve is much more ridiculous than Guitar Hero's Expert on most songs.
@datopdawg84438 жыл бұрын
Rock band truly defined impossible
@djhgdsfadsiuydsauy5 жыл бұрын
its fc'd
@scarefish66892 жыл бұрын
5:10 Seriously, fuck this part on Rock Band. There's no way that's not overcharted to hell.
@CE25144_3 жыл бұрын
On clone hero I installed RB3's chart of this song, and oh boy was it fun and a pain in the ass and hands.
@russellgroenewoud9199 Жыл бұрын
Is it me, or did Rock Band play that intro dirty without the Hammer-ons/Pull-offs?
@VMAN456712 жыл бұрын
That's true and I agree with you completely, but it makes it 3x harder and not in a fun way. It makes it a pain. That's the good thing with games. They don't always have to adhere to reality. You can use a little creative freedom to make it FUN.
@TrafalgarWakka11 жыл бұрын
The note chart from the song itself is a bit harder in GH3, but on Rock Band 3 there is a tighter window to hit the notes if you mean that.
@Rockstarpower10012 жыл бұрын
Probably because of the difference between hyperspeed and breakneck speed.
@EThomasBest12 жыл бұрын
Can you do Bleeding In The Stereo - Black or White?
@DemonFang7211 жыл бұрын
HMM? Maybe you're right! Maybe each and every GH/RB guitar chart should be straight 64th green notes at 120bpm regardless of the actual guitar's lyrical composition throughout the duration of any given song! RB and GH are simulators and the goal of a sim is to provide the closest representation possible. Within the parameters of five buttons, RB often provides the better simulation and is, therefore, more satisfying. You can say they're poor sims with only 5 buttons, but RB has Pro Instruments.
@nukadirtbag937312 жыл бұрын
Yeah and if if DragonForce wasn't hittng the notes spot on, Guitar Hero makes you feel proud of yourself, rockband gives you a reason to be proud.
@kinderbrolatest621310 жыл бұрын
where to download it?
@Sudzy122512 жыл бұрын
My honest opinion, the guitar hero intro looks more fun, but the rest on rockband for sure :)
@dazarino13909 жыл бұрын
Ok. I have seen some very difficult charts for gh3, for example, the Uber Song, but i haven't seen very many really difficult charts for rb3, for example Through the Fire and Flames. But then I come across Operation Ground and Pound and I'm just like "wtf?! Is this rb3 chart even LEGIT?!" I mean, some of those solo sections I don't think even a bot could hit! If one was ever made for rb3 that is (correct me if I am wrong here). The gh3 one I might try on Practice mode, but that rb3 chart can get out of here!
@TylerBR978 жыл бұрын
+Darren Wilson TTFaF is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay harder in RB3 than GH3. The highest percentage I've gotten was a 95 for Guitar Hero 3, and 89 for Rock Band 3/4. It's so much harder.
@GoulartGH7 жыл бұрын
it's because RB3 is harder, so songs like OGAP, and most Chaotrope RBN songs are enough to reach the engine's "limit" of what's feasible or not, whereas GH3's engine allows stuff like Uber Song to be passed, and several custom-made songs (e.g. Universes, Soulless 3) to be FC'd
@MordecaiBluejayandstuff11 жыл бұрын
GH has its moment in being harder but then Rock Band just starts to fuck with you
@bigbananadealer84612 жыл бұрын
I like them both
@BOOMHEADSHOT2410010 жыл бұрын
6:46 At that time what is that thing on Rock Band where it goes blue,red,blue,red with the bar?
@RMarsupial9 жыл бұрын
Depressed Fluttershy It's a thing in Rock Band 3 for playing trills like that. It's supposed to make it so you don't have to be as accurate with them, which is a pretty good idea (because most of the time the people playing them aren't even accurate with them) but they are kind of a pain in the ass to play I think.
@BOOMHEADSHOT241009 жыл бұрын
R. Ringshifter Thanks
@mattdude8 жыл бұрын
Also if you miss one of those notes you don't have to re-strum
@elephantkingPR10 жыл бұрын
Guitar hero is so easy and Rock Band is realistic
@evilmaker8912 жыл бұрын
Click the show comment button to watch the EPIC BATTLE of Guitar Hero vs Rock band.
@BawkBoom111 жыл бұрын
Starts Again? When did it ever stop?
@LRR97812 жыл бұрын
Can you do Alice In Chains No Excuses? RB3 Vs GHM?
@thekoopatroop208911 жыл бұрын
Thanks Captain Sarcasm
@NotHappernot6 жыл бұрын
3:20, what's with the death metal playing in the background? Or is it fleshgod apocalypse? I can't tell, a million deaths sounds like hardcore death metal xD
@neohcuizon6610 жыл бұрын
Rockband has a slower panel and shows what you will be hitting earlier than guitar hero, but I would say Rockband is still harder
@heartshapedlife211 жыл бұрын
Exactly my point. If Rock Band has pro instruments, they shouldn't try so hard to match a DAMN 5 BUTTON CONTROLLER TO THE REAL THING. It's just silly. And trying to do so becomes a problem when the charts are BORING AS HELL. I can't tell you how many times I've almost fallen asleep playing Bohemian Rhapsody in RB3. I didn't play the game to learn guitar. I have an instructor for that. I played it because it is A VIDEO GAME MEANT FOR ENTERTAINMENT.
@DemonFang7211 жыл бұрын
I was not speaking specifically for OG&P. Compare any duplicate tracks on GH and RB, you will notice far more HOPO's on all GH charts. Harmonix is infamous for not charting in-game HOPO's for accuracy purposes, making the song frustratingly difficult. Like I said, RB has pro-charts. Do you think it makes sense that Harmonix would be able to chart a whole song's exact notes but not if they're HOPO'd? Don't think so, they know their shit. Activision trades accuracy for casual fun by comparison.
@AnUntitledStory12 жыл бұрын
I agree with that although the problem is that people's skill level differ wildly, so while the majority of players (even really good players) may not have fun with a song, there's still someone out there who will have tons of fun with it. I think I'll stick with the GH3 version personally, but that's because I don't have the RB3 version..and I prefer Hyperspeed 5, which is much faster than breakneck speed. xD
@next2talljones11 жыл бұрын
I was talking about TTFAF. Operation Ground and Pound is just ridiculous on RB3.
@kruoth9070 Жыл бұрын
having played both I can say rock band solos are way harder than GH, songs that I could complete easily on GH were a nightmare when I tried them on rock band and this video is an example
@VMAN456712 жыл бұрын
And a quick question. Are both recordings of you playing?
@xXHarryR18Xx12 жыл бұрын
that seems like a very specific example, are you projecting?
@YuriNator5578 жыл бұрын
you will amost never pass this song without 'no-fail' on
@lukyiluc7993 жыл бұрын
GHADDICTS ACTUALLY DID!! FIRST EVER 100 FC THIS SONG RB3
@VoLTJay12 жыл бұрын
it's (the first lyrics:"smashing through the boundaries" my first through:"sun through the burning fields") thats what it is
@ElysaraCh11 жыл бұрын
Guitar Hero window before/after the notes: 112ms Rock Band window before/after the notes: 100ms That window really does ruin the experience
@gamesincharacter51065 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of though the fire and the flames by dragon force
@ghostlanceryderwilson5 жыл бұрын
same band
@DaBoomNation12 жыл бұрын
I like RockBand a little more than guitar hero because they were the first ones to come up with drums and the only thing I play is drums
@AnUntitledStory11 жыл бұрын
The real reason Rock Band wins is because of Rock Band 3, and its DLC. More instruments, thousands more songs. There is no debate to be had. :P
@youfreaker12 жыл бұрын
(Part 2) autism itself means social and communication problems. in other words, feeling uncomfortable in lousy area's with a lot of people like I mentioned. My friend barely has communication problems, he got his own band for example. he just didn't realize (which already was a couple of years ago) what kind of words he shouldn't say when parents were around or something like that. But of course you know it better, despite that fact that I got way more experience with mental conditions.
@xXHarryR18Xx12 жыл бұрын
I started on GH and upgraded to rock band, and it probably is overcharted but some songs are only put in these game to be challenging
@dallasmann79043 жыл бұрын
Flipping Rock Band always making the songs harder. One big one I noticed was Woman by Wolfmother
@thechowonspedder12 жыл бұрын
@shakugan666 that's because rb do not have the expert+
@MeemoTV11 жыл бұрын
It's not horrible, it's just more strict, which doesn't make it a bad thing, it just tells you to get better. Also, I enjoy added difficulty to a song.
@BradTheThird12 жыл бұрын
It's good to see how the charts compare. I enjoy playing both Guitar Hero AND Rock Band, but it's a shame to see that the comments are just filled with GH fanboys -_-'
@RansomPuppy11 жыл бұрын
please tell me there was you and another person in the room playing
@ryderwilson44169 жыл бұрын
RB3 Having Troubles?
@JohnSkene1211 жыл бұрын
GH3 is too forgiving, RB3 is too harsh Shit happens
@Dragoon5158511 жыл бұрын
by accuracy in HOPOs, i only mean the window of time you have to press whatever button that has to be hammered on or pulled off.. guitar hero is a little more lenient in the fact that you can hit the note a little early or a little late (from guitar hero 3 on, HOPOs are pretty unforgivable in GH 1 + 2), while in rockband you have a very small window of time in which the note can be registered, which kind of takes the experience away from me.
@LDR191110 жыл бұрын
Ttfaf RB3/GH3(equal) Ogap GH3
@TheSonic49710 жыл бұрын
Actually,it's ALOT more easier,and this is why.Smash Hist uses the GH engine ver.2.0,so I you can get star power,while using star power,making it easier to recover,it includes the fingertapping technique,making half of the Guitar Hero 3 chart into much more easier note hitting,and the power chords have been replaced with double stops.So you get,star power with star power,fingertapping,and easier charting, when in Guitar Hero 3,you don't.
@StyxYRenegade7 жыл бұрын
One reason the Rock Band chart is inferior is because the last part if the last solo is undercharted. It's missing the pinch harmonics Dave plays.
@k4l3b04 Жыл бұрын
Dave?????? I forgot who plays this solo but there is no guitarist in Dragonforce named Dave
@StyxYRenegade Жыл бұрын
@@k4l3b04 I think somehow I commented about Megadeth on a Dragonforce video without realizing it
@MrSupersandwich11 жыл бұрын
looks like a job for Guitar Hero Phenom!
@theearlynotifications18227 жыл бұрын
I WONDER IF HE`S USING GHAddict112 For GH3 And Gerf Is Using His Own On RB3!
@Joe-ew4qx7 жыл бұрын
TheEarlyNotifications GHAddict112 also FC'ed the Rock Band 3 version a few weeks ago
@MrSupersandwich11 жыл бұрын
5:10 looks hard on Rock Band
@jamescusumano91622 жыл бұрын
I play it on rb4 a lot
@dkamm6512 жыл бұрын
@nativeboiy2007 By Danny, I hope you mean nationalsniper/ggamerman.
@CotyCasselman111 жыл бұрын
you are a FUCKING GENIUS
@DaBoomNation12 жыл бұрын
to guitar hero especially
@xXHarryR18Xx12 жыл бұрын
I like rock band more because it's a superior game in every way
@stevethepocket12 жыл бұрын
It's weird. It's like a complete reversal of "Through the Fire and the Flames": Rock Band is making you play the rhythm guitar's part and lead at the same time in places and Guitar Hero isn't.
@alexandre1123412 жыл бұрын
the left one isn't me
@Keiyon9510 жыл бұрын
his comment must have been that fuckin crazy to be removed
@dvon10979 жыл бұрын
Its so easier on gh
@GrindyBeak8 жыл бұрын
+Angel lopez You can make it fast on rock band 4
@mattpetersgm8 жыл бұрын
+Angel lopez It's not faster, just the people who posts these comparison charts are retarded. They use hyperspeed in GH and not in RB (it's called breakneck speed in rock band). Also making the chart scroll faster is EASIER than having it scroll slower. GOD FUCK! Read every comment on here, I love making fun of guitar hero noobs.
@gustavo-gj6vd3 жыл бұрын
@@mattpetersgm ok Professional
@Cresitan25812 жыл бұрын
Reasons rockband is worse: Less hammer-ons when they're needed/there, less room to work with (You can barely see what's ahead of you)
@forcefan121112 жыл бұрын
thumbs up if you went and listened to more DF after this!
@beckybecky1256 жыл бұрын
How about: Band Hero VS. Rock Band 2 Song: Bad Reputation by Joan Jett Instrument: Guitar
@ghostgaurdian12 жыл бұрын
I love ignorant comments an such, They are so entertaining to see people argue via KZbin comments.
@AnUntitledStory12 жыл бұрын
Because they aren't hammer-ons when the guitarist plays them? Now, I don't know that for a fact, but that would be a very good reason in my opinion.
@ToastyMann6 жыл бұрын
God damn, this is oveecharted on Rock Band. Just playing the intro on the Rock Band engine gives me the shits. And I can pass TTFAF on both games.
@TheHystericalDude12 жыл бұрын
I'd say Guitar Hero 3 is more accurate and fun to play, but that's just my opinion. Also hell no "it's more hardcore", GH3 had fuckin' satan as the last boss.
@twitertaker11 жыл бұрын
First I didn't even say which version is harder, cause i don't know. I believe you, if you say it, but your first argument wasn't right anyway. TTFAF for RB was released in march 2011, which makes 2 years. Also i looked for the TTFAF FC's in GH3 in Guitar Hero Wiki and there were only 3 FC's from october 2007, when the game was realesed in North America, to october 2008. Get your facts straight, "dude".
@SkeezyFlautist928 жыл бұрын
will rb3 ogap ever be fc'd?
@Joe-ew4qx8 жыл бұрын
Probably not
@MrSlendykinsSockman8 жыл бұрын
The only video of the full song that has been FC'd is by GHP but it was on the GH3 engine, others like Megapengproductions and Acai could do it but they're into that hardcore super duper crazy stuff right now.
@YuriNator5578 жыл бұрын
we've got tech fc's (people full comboing each bit of the song in practice mode but not in one continuous song) ,but I don't think there's any on youtube, so we wont get an fc for a while. just look up ogap solo 4 or bridge c fc
@MrSlendykinsSockman8 жыл бұрын
lolguy49 I know, it's just those who play Rock Band though, and the fact that no one is really bothered with it cause everyone's trying super hard to FC Soulless 4.
@GoulartGH7 жыл бұрын
it wasn't FC'd to this day btw, not on RB3 - it was on RB4, with a slightly different chart and a slightly easier engine (still a badass feat, much much harder than GH3)
@Dragoon5158511 жыл бұрын
alright, i guess i just hate being incredibly accurate with HOPOs then xD
@twitertaker11 жыл бұрын
I don't know which version of TTFAF is harder, but your argument is invalid, too. When came TTFAF for GH3 and when was TTFAF for RB3 released. You just can't compare the numbers of FC's if one version is 6 years old while the other was published maybe a year ago.
@Zieekel10 жыл бұрын
Not to mention the fact that you have less time to hit hammer-ons on RB
@Devan1H11 жыл бұрын
Why the heck does Rock Band add guitar notes where there is no real Guitar notes in the song, like 4:14?
@DemonFang7211 жыл бұрын
Having a smaller window of time to hit notes promotes accuracy. The more accurate you have to be, the more difficult. Forcing the player to be closer to the actual mark is not "inaccurate," it's less lenient. GH in generally has a massively lax error threshold by comparison to RB, which is one of the main reasons GH inherently is less difficult than RB. If being less able to bullshit your way through a song takes away from your experience, then that's your problem.
@arielettetv12 жыл бұрын
the intro for rock band flows so badly... seems kinda off too... but i guess everything in rock band seems non flowy cuz of the rectangle notes... i love rb dont get me wrong but i like guitar hero for guitar... note shapes, the way you view the neck to play... but i like how most info is below the notes in rb
@billdongs8 жыл бұрын
this is why guitar hero will always win
@Roberto-Kun8 жыл бұрын
always win? JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJA guitar hero Live is bullshit
@Victinho6D8 жыл бұрын
+Roberto El Jarcor rb4 is rb3 with a slightly less worse engine and way less features (no pro guitar, bass or keys whatsoever), and freestyle solos that may be sort of fun but that sounds like shit, plus a lot of bugs due to it being rushed ghl in the other hand tried to bring something new, with a different gameplay, i personally don't really like it either but considering rb4 is a rushed piece of shit, imo ghl won this round
@mattpetersgm8 жыл бұрын
+i Billdongs why, because it's a much easier game? only fucking NOOBS say guitar hero is better, it's always fucking noobs. there's not a pro player that would say guitar hero is harder than rockband. not one.
@HamsterCrusher136 жыл бұрын
Matt desu No one would say GH is harder, but all the pro players would say it's better.
@ToastyMann6 жыл бұрын
"oNlY fUcKiNg NEWWWBSS sAy GuItAr HeRoInE iZ bEtTur" Dude, you're using "Noob" past 2012. Go back to Roblox.
@thekoopatroop208911 жыл бұрын
Whatever I actually have a life outside Guitar Hero.
@nativeboiy200712 жыл бұрын
@PedroV36 or danny lol
@Flyxolydian10 жыл бұрын
Somehow I doubt having arguments on KZbin on guitar hero videos qualifies as "having a life".
@Devan1H11 жыл бұрын
or maybe making it easier, giving u a chance to give u health before the nightmare starts again
@lukyiluc7994 жыл бұрын
Guitar hero fans has left the chat!! Rock band more harder!
@thekoopatroop208911 жыл бұрын
Yeah but Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock was released about 3 1/2 years before Through the Fire and Flames was released on Rock Band 3 DLC, and people back then actually wasted their time spending hours upon hours trying to FC it, however today people have better things to do. Just sayin'.
@ShamuTheWhale3 жыл бұрын
Guitar hero 3 árcade chart, rock band simulation chart.
@jojivlogs_425510 жыл бұрын
Rock Band always shits out the most atrocious charts. Not fun to play at all, even if you managed to.
@TylerBR979 жыл бұрын
Shizune Hakamichi Funny joke
@mystellen7 жыл бұрын
Shizune Hakamichi How would you even know, you're deaf