Making a funky jam with MSuperLooper

[@deastman2]

I guess I’d like to see a demonstration of how you would use a looper like this in practice. What you demonstrated here -recording three guitar parts in a plugin hosted inside a DAW- is exactly what I would use the DAW for without the plugin. I’m sure there must be some advantage to doing it this way, but so far I’m not understanding what that might be.

[@Chandlerguitar]

I'll try to do more stuff soon. Of course this isn't a plugin for everyone, but it can certainly be used to do some cool stuff. Loopers are usually used for live stuff, ambient stuff or 1 man band style performances. Thanks for watching.

[@boimesa8190]

@@Chandlerguitar he knows what loopers are used for... He says that nearly any DAW can do this already by itself :S

[@Chandlerguitar]

@@boimesa8190 I find the workflow in most DAWs to be worse for this type of thing, but there are some DAWs such as Ableton(I believe) that have something like this built in. If you aren;t into looping you really don't need a looper, but if you are I think the workflow is better than using your DAW.

[@boimesa8190]

@@Chandlerguitar sure

[@BitwigCraft]

Not many DAWs can overdub audio into a single clip/track easily. The advantage here is having 16 tracks and "endless" overdubs in a single plugin or window, with proper and dedicated MIDI control options, for example mapping "Reverse" or "Select track and record" functions. Individual loop lengths and other sync options make this much more powerful than most DAWs implementation of looping.

[@BitwigCraft]

This with realtime pitching and time stretching would be a dream come true. Changing the bpm within the DAW makes the loops go out of sync currently, which is fair enough since no other plugin does proper stretching, only a few do pitch shifting to match the tempo.

[@zerocrossing]

BitwigCraft The only thing I’ve ever seen that does that with real time audio looping is the Electrix Repeater. I heard they had a plugin version that they were working on, but it never came to be.

[@brianmi40]

You should have mentioned that Pitchproof is FREE! Just looked and that's an immediate download! thanks

[@dtrelzmusic]

Interesting stuff

[@gerhardbinkele3753]

Much better!!! Thanx !!!! ... but in the end - why should I use it ? Tracks with different length would be Interesting!

[@Chandlerguitar]

Thanks. I'll do some tracks with different lengths in the near future.

[@boimesa8190]

Yeah..

[@Sebastianandthedeepbluemusic]

really I think the cool thing about this looper is the ability to autostart when a volume threshold is hit. but you can't be on the grid with that.

[@KozmykJ]

So .. from this vid I see a DAW within a DAW. Was looking to see Looping ...

[@KozmykJ]

NVM I bought it anyway. Seemed like the kind of toy with which I would like to play ...

[@imacardie7325]

Exactly......I bought it to loop....couldn’t believe it when I couldn’t ! Reassuring that it’s not just me . So thank you

[@theapolloexperiment]

Hey this has been super helpful. I'm just researching if msuperlooper is right for my needs. The biggest thing I'm looking for is recording each loop track to a separate track in my DAW. I can't seem to find any of your videos showing how to do that? Is that possible with this software? Can you point me in the right direction? Thanks!

[@davidnika446]

I grabbed the beta version, and I got the basic gist pretty quick. But I'm sketchy on how to really use it. So this is a nice little demo. MSuperlooper seems like a mini-Ableton gadget. Any chance you could do a tut on looping for total beginners? (Using this plugin, of course). I can see what you're doing, but when actually trying to use this, I quickly see that for every single thing I understand, there are 5 other things that I don't understand. I'm not a total beginner, but a "total beginners" tutorial would help a lot of people with different levels of experience.

[@Chandlerguitar]

I'll be doing more videos soon. Is there anything I haven't covered that you'd like me to explain?

[@davidnika446]

@@Chandlerguitar Thanks Chandler. Mostly, I think that I just need to play with this more. But I'm trying to figure out how each bar in the DAW can be synched up to 1 bar in the looper. If you covered that, I must have missed it. I guess that I also wonder what deastman2 asked. In any event, thanks for giving us a taste!

[@brianmi40]

@@davidnika446 I would watch all the live looping videos you can get your hands on, and you'd start to discern the methods I think.

[@FretsNirvana]

Thanks again ....I finally got MSuperlooper and Logic X to work together with midi control. One thing ...though I did not find all those effects that you are showing in the trial version. Are they only available with the purchased license? Or is there something I have to do turn them all on?

[@Chandlerguitar]

You can turn them on by purchaing the license to the related plugins. For example if you buy/have MSpectraldynamics then you'll see it in MSuperlooper. I hope that helps.

[@FretsNirvana]

@@Chandlerguitar It does ...so then I am guessing none of the effects are included and you have to buy a license with each of them. And you can only install Melda effects there ...right ?

[@Chandlerguitar]

@@FretsNirvana Yes it only works with melda fx. It should come with a few already installed though. The others can be purchased separately or in bundles. If you purchase them they also work outside MSuperlooper. I hope that helps.

[@FretsNirvana]

@@Chandlerguitar Thanks once again. Although there are alternatives that are cheaper and even free, I went ahead and made the purchase based on your excellent input. I also like the fact that the company is in the Czech Republic ...where the folks are very friendly and value their freedom highly after so many years of oppression.

[@Chandlerguitar]

@@FretsNirvana Glad to hear it. Thanks for watching and I hope you enjoy it. There have been some upgrades since I did this video, so you can now have multiple outputs.

[@Hexspa]

Way to go

[@Chandlerguitar]

Thanks

[@palaHD]

if i trigger session record clips using a standard foot pedal which is what i do to record guitar/drum key part loops anyway in ableton is there any point to this plug in ? maybe for all other DAW's other than ableton it might be worth it but surely all daw's support recoring audio in anyway don't they ? i've been using computers to sequence music since 1992 and can't work this out :)

[@brianmi40]

For one thing, if you truly review the list of effects this has, at $19 today on Pluginboutique, there is simply no way you could get all those effects for Ableton for $19. I haven't used my Ableton for some years, but I'd also suggest checking all the functionality you can do for live looping with a MIDI controller to control the software. This tool may have more flexibility in that area. He has a video showing how to map a MIDI controller to control it, and it looks crazy comprehensive, but maybe Live does all you need it to. As I say, I'm picking it up as simply the effects it has built into it are worth the $19 if you are going to play around with looping at all, and especially in another DAW than Live...

[@FdUpNews]

@@brianmi40 I just bought it and it's horrible. Such a limited number of FX and you can't use your own FX in this closed system. Paladini is right!

[@zerocrossing]

One thing I’m unclear of, is how to create a loop where each loop iteration decays over time while being replaced by new content. Is this possible?

[@Chandlerguitar]

It actually isn't right now, but I believe you'll be able to once the update is released.

[@starsandguitars2050]

Can this be used in standalone mode Chandler? Can you use it on a tablet for live performance?

[@Chandlerguitar]

I don't think it can be used in standalone mode. I'm sure you can use it on a windows tablet, but not on iphone or android. I believe all melda plugins have touch support, so they should work with any touch screen. It should be great for live performance, although personally I haven't tried it. I hope that helps.

[@starsandguitars2050]

@@Chandlerguitar Thank you!

[@brianmi40]

@@starsandguitars2050 Look for a MIDI Host program to use with it. There are free ones as well as paid for ones, they basically just allow you to play a (one or more) VST without all the overhead and complexity of a DAW. They also can support set lists, and MIDI control to step through the songs on it. With one, and this tool, along with a MIDI foot controller (see his video on how he configures one for this tool), you could easily create a set list, where each song has pre-defined effects on each channel of this tool so that as you lay down the loops you would get the effects you want. at $19 today on Pluginboutique, you couldn't even buy all the effects this thing has built in to use with something like Ableton Live... so a pretty good deal in my book and am picking it up today.

[@damiengreen28]

So my fault here really but I bought this for multi channel looping am I correct to say you can only record from one audio input? if so it isn't really a "super" anything is it?

[@damiengreen28]

For me a superlooper would be able to have a channel per audio input on my system. For the heavily discounted price I cant really complain but the name alone is misleading.

[@olafkliemt1145]

this has nothing to do with live looping.

[@brianmi40]

If you watch his video on how a MIDI pedal controller can be mapped to fully control this tool, then you can see how it could be used live. At $19 today on Pluginboutique, there is no way you could even get all the effects that it has for a DAW like Ableton... I could easily set a set list for live looping, with each track pre-defined with the effects that you want.

[@BitwigCraft]

Video is called making a funky jam, you can do all of these in a live looping session with your preferred controller and methods.

[@zerocrossing]

This is definitely something that allows for live looping.

[@damiengreen28]

@@zerocrossing of only one channel, which pretty much makes it useless for live looping. If you are gettign all of your sounds from one source its fine.