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In this video, we discuss something that has been on Eric's mind lately regarding LE-marked ammunition that comes in at much better price points commonly being restricted for civilian purchase. What is the reason?
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[@starxlord9856]

This is why I love the mission statement of people like Barrett! If the civilians aren’t allowed to own their products then they will not sell to law enforcement!

[@Irishcream216]

The only problem with that is departments can still procure them through private sale. It's a nice feel good thing for Barrett but I don't think it logically stops anything

[@thetechnostate316]

@@Irishcream216 at least they’re standing for something, which means a lot more than companies like benchmade bending the knee for cops

[@dorzak975]

@@Irishcream216 Yes, but Barrett has taken it at least one step further. They will not do factory service on there firearms. They returned an M82A1 unrepaired to LAPD in 2002.

[@COIcultist]

Why didn't Eric and Chad ask their contact at Federal who supplies them with their free ammo about this before pontificating?

[@rdj232]

@@COIcultist Eric and Chad buy all their ammo for the videos.

[@jarink1]

"A crazy inconsistency" - you just accurately described every gun control law in the US.

[@talisikid1618]

Well, not every law on guns. Some are necessary to keep convicts and such from obtaining them.

[@dalesearcy5734]

There isn't any 50 round boxes of defensive ammo available in my area. I have always felt that this was a way to jack up the price of this ammo and for no other reason. We are getting ripped off every time we purchase defensive ammo. If the ammo makers want to offer a discount for LE, that's fine but make it available for everyone.

[@theKashConnoisseur]

I can't find any JHP in my local stores either, but I can still find Speer Gold Dots and Hornady Critical Duty online any day of the week.

[@magnum_0710]

I stopped buying Federal products for a long time because of this, they're the main offender...Sig has no issue selling 50 round boxes to everyone...the only reason I gave in is because nothing beats the HST in performance and I want the best to protect my family with

[@darktyrannosaurus22]

This why the right to bear arms should obligatorily condition all adjacent rights relative to it, such as the rights to bear, make, exchange accessories, tools and ammunition. Can't be dependent from non-State agents, never.

[@marblemarble7113]

typically if youre making guns youre probably already past the point of following stupid laws unless we're talking modifications liking chopping down the barrel

[@richardsveum8452]

Tell you as a LEO affiliated employee, the department I’m currently with can not get enough ammo to qualify with due to availability and cost.

[@doubletap10mm]

Exactly, they are so wrong. They think agencies just have all this Ammo which is absolutely wrong. Most agencies don’t even supply Ammo to their officers or their duty pistol

[@2AlphaCrew]

@@doubletap10mm ehhhhhh you are wrong. Lots of agencies supply ammo and stock LOTS. Depends where. Funding matters.

[@doubletap10mm]

@@2AlphaCrew I'm wrong yet I work at one of the top 5 agencies in the country and we are supplied nothing, I think our funding of 700 million a year would qualify

[@doubletap10mm]

@@2AlphaCrew plus I never said that there are no agencies that supply Ammo, I said most do not. Read my comment correctly before you respond ignorantly

[@2AlphaCrew]

@@doubletap10mm sure bud… I bet. Our dinky little flathead sheriffs department must be rolling in the dough. 🙄 I train with multiple KPD and FSD. They have their ammo supplied. 🤷🏼

[@derpcon4212]

To Chad's point about a potential difference in the quality of ammo available to civilians, that is especially true for Military standardized ammo. I believe it's by law that military-contracted ammo (think M855 or Mk 262) can only be sold to civilians if the batch was pulled because it didn't meet the QC standard by the military. So basically we're getting factory seconds, even if it's still much better ammo than the other stuff available for the price

[@americangoy528]

To my understanding thats how NightVision devices work too. Mil/Le hand select units to their standards, us poor second class civies get the scraps :/

[@adamcornell6738]

I believe that's what the X designates in the code. Like XM855

[@DopamineSink]

From an article in 80-lower: "Curious what all the "M"s and "X"s means? Simple: The "M" in M193 and M855 stands for "military". This denotes the ammunition is produced to military specifications. When you're shopping around for ammo, you may or may not see 5.56 NATO listed as M855 or M193, even if it's Federal American Eagle. It might say XM855 and XM193. XM855 and XM193 are not special versions of military ammo. They're not "second-rate" versions of military 5.56 NATO, either. They're simply rounds of ammunition that have been set aside for civilian use, instead of being shipped off to the armed forces. That's it. We even called Federal Premium to confirm this. Federal says that some "M" munitions are placed on the civilian ("XM") manufacturing line for insignificant reasons: They produced too much "M" ammo and need to sell through it, the paint on a green-tip is too thick or thin, there is extra sealant around the primer, or some other reason that in no way hurts the performance of the ammo in question. Whether you buy XM or M, rest assured that your 5.56 ammo will perform to the same standards." That makes more sense to me. It's a separate line with some "2nds" thrown in that, and not just rejected rounds. That would be MILLIONS of rejected rounds.

[@derpcon4212]

​@@DopamineSink I should've been more clear that I didn't mean to imply all the ammo are rejects. All it takes is the tiniest found "flaw" on a single round in a batch of thousands for that entire batch to be diverted to civilian sales, which like the article said can even include the thickness of the green tip paint. But what I'm far more interested in is the potential difference in quality of the Mk 262 Mod 1 ammo the military gets vs the overpriced variant of it we're able to get our civilian hands on. Since it's more of a specialty loading there's very rarely overruns on it and most clones of it aren't even to proper spec. I don't think Black Hills even sells it to civilians anymore, and the QC from IMI is all over the place.

[@nemisous83]

Well its worth noting that not meeting QC doesn't nessisarily mean its worse ammo you figure they test only a 100 or so rounds of ammo from a 10,000 round batch and if more than a certain amount don't meet certain requirements the whole batch is rejected so more often than not the ammo you buy is generally up to milirary standard.

[@waynepuckett3150]

Simply stated… it’s all about profit at the manufacturer level!

[@williamharn9048]

Exactly

[@mathewmcdonald3657]

Also international treaties are another back door to gun and ammunition control.

[@gophop]

That's not how fascism works. Political interests above profits.

[@dorzak975]

I live in a state with some of the strictest gun control laws in the nation. Almost every law has exemptions and carve outs so they don't apply to Law Enforcement Officers. Safe roster of handguns - exempted, ordering ammunition online - exempted, background checks for ammo purchases - exempted.

[@427_FE]

I've been casting pistol bullets since '86 . The primer shortage is the bitch . Please do an update on that when you have time. Love you guys !

[@vendetta6451]

What Eric said rung a bell with me. I got pulled over by apd a few years back. I didn't have my sidearm in the car but the extra mag was in the armrest. They searched the car heavily, but I told them that "my gun is at home, I live down the street". So after they confirmed I was legit, I told the cop "I usually don't ride with my gun in the car" he told me " you live in atlanta right?, You need to keep it with you at all times". I was floored, even an apd officer knew that citizens need to be armed when they can't be there.....good Convo, you guys rock bruh.

[@urwingman0121]

A vast majority of those living in the major cities forgot/ignore the definition of "criminals." "Criminals don't follow laws" is a pill they can't seem to swallow and if they do, they cannot digest. It's sad.

[@bigmike9845]

I absolutely love gun gripe you guys are just a wealth of knowledge when it comes to firearms and I love it

[@cheezychungus967]

Anyone else watching this on the toilet?

[@markjenkins6424]

Hey poop buddy!

[@ALT_RIGHT]

No I only watch Biden videos there

[@colbemugen9932]

yes i am on the toilet rn😎

[@michaelschmidt5179]

I watched it in the shower on my iPad, after I watched regular car reviews on the can.

[@9mmpeter255]

Always

[@ktmMX125]

Here in Massachusetts lots of shops have a separate case with glocks and 30 round ar mags for law enforcement only. Gun stores are not allowed to sell new glocks to civilians but LE can buy them for personal use or duty.

[@shoominati23]

I thought most PDs would have policies against carrying personally owned firearms or ammunition in a squad car or on duty anyway, lest they get into a defensive shooting and cause some legal curfuffle for the department. Which makes the case for having to show credentials on purchase even weaker.

[@ktmMX125]

@@shoominati23 yea I’m not sure what their policies on carrying a personal firearm are around here but I have seen it before. It’s just kinda annoying how I can’t walk in and buy a glock 19 because it has been deemed “unsafe” by the state yet most of the local pd’s issue the same “unsafe” handgun to everyone in their department. It’s all arbitrary an extremely annoying. They are no more safe or unsafe than any other handgun I own. also if I were to be caught with any magazine over 10 rounds that isn’t made before 1994 it’s a pretty big offense. a few more months in this crap-tacular state and I’m out.

[@blankman6179]

Those 20rd boxes are for the people that live in ten round mag states like me... 😢😢😢

[@J-nasty]

Rip😔

[@blankman6179]

@@J-nasty do you feel my pain too?

[@J-nasty]

@@blankman6179 no I live in Texas but I feel bad and just wanted to give my condolences🙁

[@roykidd1801]

The dealer gets special pricing on the LE items that he is to pass on the to the First responders. Some distributers require you send a copy of the 4473 and the ID used to purchase the item proving you are complying with the requirements. Others reserve the right to request the information. If you are unable to provide it you will no longer be able to purchase and provide LE items. LE ammo also is purchased at a discounted price. There is really no way to track the ammo so some dealers will sell to anyone but make more off the LE do to cheaper cost. Hope this answers your questions.

[@DB.KOOPER]

I just noticed last night that Primary Arms has a "law enforcement only" 1-5x LPVO... it looks pretty meh but its odd that an OPTIC would be regulated like that.

[@mke259]

Winchester has a new LE only round called Winchester RangerOne. I have no problem getting it right now with my credentials for $34 for a 50 round box, but I find it offensive that my fellow citizen can't get this new round. If I lose my job or quit I can no longer buy it, ridiculous.

[@necrofuryan5899]

I'm a member at a gun range with a large law enforcement presence. They sell ammo to shooters right at the front desk but lately they're always sold out, for obvious reasons. Me and a buddy of mine were there the other day and they have these huge shipping containers back by the pistol range and we noticed one of them wasn't padlocked and the door was slightly open. We peeked inside... floor to ceiling ammo, probably all for LE sale.

[@IrnMaiden304]

If they read this and find out who you are, you won't be a member for much longer. I believe you though, more then one way to skin a cat

[@Brennan_the_smith]

Bastards i lost all respect for LE in the last 16 months and now can give a damn less the majority have turned into dicks and the rest are cowards

[@chips2458]

Cerakote has a”special” paint that’s is only for police and military, no particular reason. Why not let civilians subsidize it a little to reduce cost?

[@1oldbluesheepdog]

I'm a retired LEO of 32 years for a major SW police dept. I'm pro 2nd amendment and don't want to argue with you regarding LEO's having unlimited access to dept. ammo. When I first hired on, we qualified twice a year, but toward the end of my career we switched to qualifying once a year (insert reason here), I'm not privy to that ($$$). In all that time, we shot up our 50 rounds for qualifications and were issued another 50 rounds until the next qualification. All other ammo we had to go buy ourselves. BTW... enjoy your channel.

[@jrodom2411]

I don't know of any law that says LE ammo is for LE only, to me it seems like a marketing trick to make people want the LE ammo. The sad truth is some FFLs are fudds, I had one refuse to give me copy of their FFL to send to Midway, which is against the law "You must keep your license posted and readily available for inspection", they also refused to order ammo for me from Midway after that, I do not support that FFL as a result. I've heard prosecutors try and paint someone as having a vigilante attitude or LE obsession if they use LE ammo or a LE trade in firearm.

[@ronschramm9163]

Late to the party...When I was with the Kentucky State Police, we were issued duty ammunition by our armorer. The only time you would get clean, new duty ammunition was when we qualified. We used the "old" ammunition in qualification, and then was issued a new 50 round box. We carried Glock 22s, with 3-15 round magazines, and 1 in the chamber. So, there was 4 rounds left in the box. If we opted for additional firearms training or were slotted for it, we were given plain, old American Eagle .40 S&W. There was no wandering into the armory and just grabbing boxes. If I took my duty weapon to the range, off duty to train with, then that was on my dime.

[@tomahawk5118]

Had Buds Guns tell me I couldn’t buy rounds that were very well stocked and cheaper because the were program boxes, LE only. They asked if I was LE and I had to admit I was not. Oddly enough I served my years in LE and the military yet that’s not good enough. My POST cert came from Forsyth, GA. I’m with y’all on this topic!

[@donovanchilton5817]

So they wouldn't sell you ammo cause you weren't active LE? Funny how that works.

[@tomahawk5118]

@@donovanchilton5817 yep. That was the first time I’ve ever seen ammo set out behind the sales counter and beside all the other ammo and told it was only for active LE.

[@delmarrey9077]

Can’t buy primers anymore. So, even reloading has become a matter of inventory. What’s weird is, hollow point (JHP) bullets are easy to get. But, the least expensive target bullets are hard to find. E.G. (9 mm) .355” 115 gr. (JRN), or .357” 148 gr. (JRN) & .224” 75 gr. (JBT)

[@sucha603boy]

At my department we are not allowed to purchase ammo. The prices are cheap compared to going to the gun shop and the ability has never been an issue. We get ammo for training at the range whenever we want so it’s not bad

[@sladeoriginal]

I bet a certain number of LE boxes are filled and kept to the side so the civilian ammo prices stay at a certain price.

[@givemethemusicd]

You can make your own home made breaching torch with a metal tube, finely ground aluminum, iron oxide, and a magnesium ribbon. Sourced through Amazon and home depot.

[@GenXAccord]

The same reason that hot dogs and hot dog buns are not sold in the same quantity. It's a marketing scheme to make you buy more of one of them.

[@mikel2730]

Lol donut operator just had a fundraiser to buy guns ,ammo ,vests for Leos in Tennessee because their department doesnt have funds to buy them the gear.

[@joshuagibson2520]

What? Where in Tn? I live here.

[@MrCococda]

Haha yeah sounds like something he’d do.

[@talisikid1618]

Ammo companies put the le restrictions on dealers. Who buys it?🤷‍♂️

[@donaldslayton2769]

I've never seen a gun shop have ammo for LEO'S only

[@jameskirk3]

Tasers and OC spray are the big ones that only get sold to law enforcement. Handcuffs to some degree as well, but ammo, most firearms (though we don't have military M4s with full auto or 25mm belt feds thanks to the NFA) and body armor for the most part, we have the same stuff available. Law enforcement skus vary quite a lot between states though.

[@thorfinthorfin3010]

I have a bulk order of 5.56 that has been on backorder for 23 months now. It was super cheap 3 years ago but on backorder. I got a email canceling my order. I go to the website a few weeks later and it was back in stock with a 30% mark up.

[@jameskirk3]

I buy from the little guys that assemble theirs and sell it. 500 or 1000 at a time in 9mm and .223, no point in buying smaller quantities. Usually comes in a zip lock bag in a cardboard box.

[@panzerabwerkanone]

Legend has it that Winchester changed Black Talon ammo to SXT because it meant "Same eXact Thing".

[@merrittmcdowell8675]

I alternate my hollow point defense rounds with ball ammo so a 20 round Box will typically fill 3 mags

[@rockin870]

I bought 6 cases of 147gr HSTs at like $18-19 per 50rd box. Was an LE trade-in...sold them for reloading supplies and load my own HSTs in all calibers.

[@THE-RIGJUICE]

Local gun store near does the same thing but with glocks. This time last year they were bone dry, maybe 1 full size 9mm left, but they still had 10 glocks chillin on the bottom shelf for LE only. Granted I live in NJ and we’re limited to 10 round mag and these had standard cap mags but still man. Lemme buy the damn pistol and you can keep the “high cap” mag

[@fredrickjones4574]

These guys definitely hit it on the head! That's why I love watching their videos. We need more people to stand up and confront issues like this! I definitely believe in a balance of power, because the world is one way today doesn't mean it'll be that way tomorrow!

[@ronnieb7408]

There are a select few companies that have stock ownership in several different powder primer and bullet companies along with gun manufacturers etc. FEDERAL ,CCI,SPEER,ALLIANT POWDERS,REMINGTON are all part of Vista outdoors company i think. Do your research into who owns what and it will shine a new light on how much of a monopoly in ammo manufacturing.

[@garys5540]

Not all LE supplies you with all the ammo you want. Most will give you a limited supply for the year. After that, you have to buy your own. Also, you have to qualify to be able to carry, so you have to practice more. So no, not all department will give you all the ammo you want.

[@michaelcarter3149]

George Carlin explained it clearer than almost anyone ever has! 'It's a big club, and you ain’t in it. You and I are not in the big club. And by the way, it's the same big club they use to beat you over the head with all day long when they tell you what to believe.' This is the short version, go look up the whole thing!

[@Harris4267]

O’how I miss pre plandimic Ammo prices. Last I got at the begging of the plan d was 1k 124g S&B for like $219 $.219 per round rd. I wish glad I stocked up though lol

[@ThePatriotParadox]

I wish I could come to know ammo prices like that!

[@rottdad775]

Even 22 cents is overpriced

[@ThePatriotParadox]

@@rottdad775 I could see under $20.00 for a box of one hundred, maybe 10 or 15 bucks.

[@mountainskyaerialphotograp3921]

As I listened to your video, we were never allowed to just go into the "Armory" and take what ever we wanted. The only one that got access to the ammo was the armorer and he only pulled out enough for our training and qualification. That was it. No gratuity at the departments I worked for.

[@watariovids1645]

LE Schemes are lame.

[@teamja1088]

Yup. That is why I refuse to buy a lesser M18. Sig should not even sell the quasi-320/“m18” because the real one and the fake one are built differently. The real one costs $1000+ and the civie one retails at $600, but has recently been going for $750-800+. We the People would like to fire +P+ through ours 💪🏼

[@heathlong]

When the answer to "why" is because "contracts" that basically tells everyone everything needed to know.

[@heathlong]

When the manufacturers state the reason that they can't keep up with demand is because of demand, yet they must fulfill contracts first that's the answer. Much the same as they tell the little guy they need to buy a bunch of crap they can't sell to get a pallet of the stuff they can sell.

[@heathlong]

Maybe they need to spin up that extra factory that they claim they can't just have sitting around to fill all of the contracts due to the demand.

[@ChristiannTyler]

I know of a cop that will bring buckets of ammo for us when going shooting, for free. I never really thought about it before.

[@angelomaranzano9413]

My neighbor and friend is a local Peace Officer. He religiously replaces his carry ammo on handgun and shotgun. I get a few mag fulls every week from him for free and at least 9 shells of buckshot.

[@russellsandidge4210]

This might be irrelevant to this video but 4 months ago I got a email from a gun show and they were advertising that they had gobs of ammo and primers. I reload but I have not been able to buy primers since the beginning of 2020. I made a 40-mile trip to this gun show and when I got there all I found was a couple table vendors with a few boxes of primers that they were trying to scalp people for them.. also what ammo they had was way overpriced. But I did not see these gobs of primers. Made a few inquiries and nobody knew anything about these gobs of primers. I left the gun show disappointed but that afternoon I found out from a reliable source that gun show had 2 pallets of primers hidden in a backroom and they were trying to scalp people $300 a box for 1000 primers. I found out it was a sponsors of the gun show that we're doing this. I am convinced there is not shortages of ammo and primers or other reloading products. There's hoarding and scalping going on

[@quinnbartee2417]

I used to stockpile Winchester white box JHP, 50rnds for $23.00 that's all I bought unless blazer had a sale on mag dump ammo

[@sqlb3rn]

chad got a lot of time invested in that pony tail

[@stevenkennedy4130]

Yup. Winchester, Black Talon. That's the 1st time I had seen this happen.

[@mikewilliams8151]

In my opinion is, a bait and switch. Same ammo, but if it says LE 50 rounds, then see the same brand for 20 rounds. Most believe that is great stuff if the LE is this brand, I would buy more of the 20 round box. Like any items sold.

[@brandondavis8005]

I have no firsthand knowledge of our LEO's ammo procurement regs and policies, but the Department does require officers to purchase their own sidearms or patrol rifles (SWAT and other special units I believe go through the Department). Still, I have not been blocked from buying LE spec ammo in the past, even before employment in the correctional field.

[@Abruzzo333]

I'm surprised that more people haven't been suspicious of this. It was the first thing I thought of.

[@realnealvatn]

How about the ridiculous price of 38 special

[@donaldkenne3776]

I managed to snag a box of Ranger Bonded 9mm during the pandemic. Sadly only one box. Still have them all thankfully. Wish I could get more.

[@ChefMeetsWood]

as far as the "LE ONLY" rounds, i think the ammo manufacturers are simply packaging the same, or virtually identical, ammo in separate boxes just so they can tell the government "See, Look! We're not selling the good stuff to them" but in fact, They are. even if at a premium sometimes. Is it ethical? no. But at the end of the day, its good for their profitablility.

[@hardluckclub7271]

bought my l.e. m4 off the shelf new and i’m not in law. under 2000.00 with tridium nightlights. told them how much this gun is selling for on gun ebay and they laughed! the collapsable stock alone is selling for 1000.00 on there. crazy!

[@mayhem7455]

No, you don't. There's no law or restriction that prevents you from buying those boxes if you're not a Leo. That's just a marketing thing the companies do.

[@doubletap10mm]

No most police buy their own Ammo, very few agencies supply officers with ammunition

[@jlford30]

Yes, they do, there is no reason for them to help "ease" pricing pressure when they can make hay.

[@paulp1166]

If you are a veteran or retired military sometimes they will sell the law enforcement rounds if you show proof.

[@AMX86]

One should never have to show proof to practice any RIGHT.

[@paulp1166]

@@AMX86 I totally agree but when they restrict things to a certain group and you fit that group then that's an option. But yes I totally agree. There shouldn't be any restrictions for certain groups.

[@livingterminal5792]

First off , Informative , 2 Very entertaining without losing the point, Brilliant Shit fella's .

[@BowWowPewPewCQ]

It's all about marketing. Try and figure out airline pricing. Supply and demand.

[@artyomsevchenko6089]

I had to submit my armed guard credentials to buy hornady law enforcement only ammo, and I'm still confused as to why.

[@richardgreene9077]

we need to form an employee owned ammo company for civilians only, no fed contracts...

[@Saabfather]

Can you please do a torture test video with a Ruger AR556. It would be interesting to see how the upper receiver would hold up with the plastic delta ring and the way Ruger mounts the gas block.

[@lokococo925]

Eric for president and Chad for vice!!! Seriously guys its darn time that someone speaks for all Americans . I know im speaking for all of Us when i say were here with you ,keep keeping hope alive , bless all

[@raidersJScamo]

I think it's a public conditioning, where in few months maybe in a year. All fire arms owners or anyone who want to purchase ammo WILL have to show ID. Like what some of these law makers want to make law, If law enforcement shows ID to purchase ammo why not the public.

[@givemethemusicd]

My bet is that it is purely a marketing ploy regarding the ammo. Though I agree, I bet there are millions of new gun owners out there that range train will FMJ while loading defense rounds in their nightstand or carry option. I suspect LE buys the vast majority of that ammo.

[@2advocate897]

I will say that there are police agencies that are so small that the officers have to provide their own firearms and ammunition.

[@tmp1957]

Yes they do, check the price of ammo in other countries and you will see what I mean.

[@denniscraig6022]

The police should be able to get free ammo from their department , both practice and duty ammo . IF it's on a shelf in a public store first come first serve or limited numbers per purchase .

[@glenwebster2481]

It's all about profit margin. that being said all the 45's I get are 50 rounds or better and I'm not LE.

[@1LSWilliam]

I honorably complied with all the Fed regulations of the firearms act of 1994, including the forced selling of certain guns and mags at a genuine financial loss, so how was I not betrayed?

[@MadRS]

It's a stupid marketing act from manufacturers to be honest. Everyone knows that when you buy in bulk things get cheaper. Why don't manufacturers (for example only) sell rounds at $1.00 per round in a 20 round box and $0.85 per round in a 50 round box (like for like ammo) but then offer the 50 round boxes to law enforcement at say $0.75 per round. I support giving back a little to law enforcement, I'm grateful they are out there so give them a little bit back to say thanks. It's like places giving free coffee to Police, Paramedics etc when they grab a meal or something to that example.

[@killacamfoo]

Prices are out of control and supply is dead. No American ammo on AmmoSeek for a reasonable price compared to foreign ones.

[@danielmacdonald8358]

Great video I'm writing this in 2023 Eric is absolutely right I think it is all marketing..a few weeks ago I spoke to a colleague at work about his ammo supply and if he felt he was an adequate level he said absolutely when I asked around how much he had Ball parking he said he had a few 20rd box!!! 😳😳😳... I just walked away

[@superbeast1098]

Look at it from an ecenomic point of view as well......... Why is the price of a 20 ounce bottle of soda the same price as a 2 liter bottle of soda? The higher quantity gets a better price........

[@BB-ly3dh]

Your right, cant stand it. Ive seen knife companies and armor companies do it as well, even worse, refuse 2 sell to citizens. Im a fulltime knifemaker and when i see knifemakers or companies say that they will only sell certain knives to LE or military, i wish i could meet them in person n smack em in the mouth. Clowns. Same with armor and other kit.

[@usa-1129]

We need "craft ammo" so we can get away from Fudderal and REEEEmington.

[@mr.zoloft2406]

its almost like private enterprises and the state work together against the interest of the people.

[@jackshett]

Personally I don't train with my carry ammo either. Any shooting I do is primarily with something cheaper that cycles. But I have put a few mags through of the carry ammo I keep to make sure they cycle and pattern as I expect.

[@christaturner3481]

Chad looks at Derek like he's going to swallow his soul. Chad!!!! Your eyes are bigger than your stomach. Derek is a haas Chadwick my boi. His size is roughly that of the Goliad Gorilla. You can't just gulp him down my G. You may choke yourself on his lizard gizzard. Away with ye Chadwick!!!!

[@brentchuck1664]

Why can't I buy M855A1? 😫

[@qcc5]

Winchester, Respond!

[@Bigdaddyslasher]

Most departments buy literally pallets of ammo.

[@philippefrater2000]

I shoot more ammo than Police in a year. I'm French, and it cost me a lot. I've zeroed lots of guns for them as a civilian knowing more bout guns than they do. It's freaking terrifying... 🖖🏻🇫🇷😎🇫🇷😎🇫🇷🖖🏻

[@Frank7G]

My uncle told me when he was still active military he would just take as much ammo as he wanted from the armory & when they will get in a new shipment of ammo they had to shoot all the old ammo, if they didn't they would be stuck with all the old lot of ammo until it was time to order more.

[@Frank7G]

@Henry yep absolutely I wish I was there so I can stock pile. But hindsight is 20/20

[@mattmorrison9379]

Agreed, definitely dosent make sense

[@gregggibson3109]

I’m late coming to this party, but…I quit buying defensive ammo the moment mfgs introduced the 20 round box. What a rip off! Yes, I keep the same ammo in my mags for a while…I don’t the buy “your ammo goes bad after a year” line at all. I’m a long time handloaders and that dog won’t hunt!!

[@binkysteaver9880]

Why aren’t there more ammunition companies starting up? I don’t get, there’s a demand, so what’s up, and please don’t tell me it’s to difficult to start manufacturing ammo because of government regulations because that’s going to really piss me off.

[@starxlord9856]

Another point is when the pandemic came stores would only sell 2 boxes per person and we can only buy 2 20rd boxes at a time. If we had the 50rd we could have bought 100rd at a time.

[@380master9]

Actually somebody did a test on KZbin between the ranger ts and PDX1 and believe it or not PDX perform better than the ranger t PDX1 however is expensive and hard to find us and I have a plug for the Winchester rangers

[@patwalsh2868]

Hey Guys, Love your videos !!!! I live in Commy Ct. n I’m still living the 90’ gun ban era , no AR’s only 10 rd mags !!!! I can’t even carry my Glock 19 with a 15 rd mag but I can have 5 10 rd mags !!! Makes no sense !!! 😷💥💥💥💥🔫

[@seanomeirs8362]

Were Lucky in California. All magazines are 10 rounds.

[@dandahermitseals5582]

Well look at civilian 223 and NATO 556. Same size but 556 is way hotter. The current proof is they banned sale of 556 to civilians from the Missouri ammo company.

[@NextLevelLawnCare]

sure wish my agency gave me as much ammo as i wanted to shoot. id imagine there are very few agencies that have a practice like that.