Destiny 2 - Witness Dialogue (Salvation's Edge & Excision)

[@spegus6210]

7:12 Holy shit the witness was seething in that line 💀💀

[@AsherV20]

Spend billions of years, merging a civilization into a cosmic entity, bring about the downfall of countless civilizations chasing another cosmic entity in the name of remaking the universe. Everything is finally falling into place. .. And here come a school bus full of goblins with some bullets and space magic killing your entire army and breaking all your stuff and they're actually able to stop you? Yeah that'd make the mask slip just a little.

[@Spooqi]

For real lmfao, that's probably the most visceral, primal rage that has ever been seen in Destiny history, and it absolutely fuckin shook me on my first Excision run

[@adamboy0559]

It knew it was on the verge of its death. We prevented the final shape in the raid and its escape to live severed its connection to the traveler. That’s why the raids description is “free the light” once we enter excision this is just us finishing it off, there is no winning here for it. The entire of sol is preventing its escape and its left in a final stand against 12 guardians

[@SpinfoilHat]

Right? I jumped into Excision right as it dropped and ended up getting that line. All that calm up until that point and I hear that SCREAM right before damage phase, gave me chills!

[@theremnants6807]

Definitely an amazing line but it still doesn't beat "you are unworthy of salvation!"

[@karloseduardobrazaodasilva6879]

They sure made a great job voice acting the witness

[@cyber8697]

What's more impressive: it's all just *one* voice actor.

[@BenBuckton-te2pm]

I personally much prefer the duet of male and female in the Witch Queen-Lightfall. He went a bit too comically evil in TFS

[@Dew-se9hf]

@@BenBuckton-te2pm I believe that's because there's only one voice in control of the collective during final, too many dissenters to have more than a simple echo.

[@Zvxers7]

Love his screaming in the end cutscene of iconoclasm

[@Ananas_on_fire]

Brett Dalton did an amazing job, yes

[@internisus]

Its final line hits as simultaneously impressive and sad. We had such an effect on it that we stripped it of its plurality and made it small, and in its individuality and failure it sounds so weak and confused.

[@adamboy0559]

It thought of itself a god and unkillable to brings it seen as lessers.

[@josephvires4751]

So many different lines, yet every time I play Excision, I get "YoUr PaIn Is PoIsOn"

[@TheSapphireWolff]

I had never heard that line! it’s great! the witness is my favorite

[@miguelsalas4852]

Ok but how tho

[@CRCADAN]

@@miguelsalas4852pain becomes an actuator that indicates life; life is poison as is due to the chaos it causes. At least that’s how I feel the witness sees it

[@miguelsalas4852]

@@CRCADAN That's a good explanation. There has to be for sure some philosopher who wrote about that, like Schopenhauer or one of those guys.

[@CRCADAN]

@@miguelsalas4852 Many philosophers of the modern era have talked about existential dread and the concepts of nihilism. It seems as maybe the story team used those concepts as base for the beliefs of the precursors .

[@zakum2007]

I love the last line, believing he's doing the universe a favor

[@chelsthegameruiner8669]

The confusion in his voice knowing we can hurt him reminds me of Unicron in the 1986 Transformers movie. Both are godlike beings, believed to be indestructible, only to be destroyed in the end

[@trypticon8619]

I never thought of that, but it’s so true

[@AsherV20]

Funny you make the comparison between The Witness and Unicron, you're not off base. Couple years ago, folks in the TF fandom found the 1st draft for the 86 Transformers movie. In it, Unicron was still the final villain but his exact nature was a reveal for late in the movie. Instead of talking directly to Unicron, Megatron instead interacts with a being called "The Entity" that claims to be the caretaker of planet Unicron. I the 1st draft, it's The Entity that upgrades Megatron into Galvatron and sends him to earth to destroy the Autobots and harvest energy so that planet Unicron can break free of its current orbit and roam the universe to devour planets. Ever since details of this original draft of the movie came out, I've imagined what that version of the film would've looked like and in my head I hear The Entity speak with the same voice and cadence as The Witness.

[@Cloakerson]

hi faust

[@DCMarvel2009]

“Destiny…you CANNOT…destroy…my…DESTINYYYY!!!” *boom*

[@owentravis9520]

Knowing that the voice actor for the Witness was the actor who played Agent Ward in Agents of SHIELD makes me smile, because he played such a cool charavter and villain. Only found that out recently.

[@kylemccormack1785]

Wait, the Witness is Hydra?!

[@CliveThorpe]

@@kylemccormack1785 Yeah bro went from many heads to many hands!

[@fysy9989]

that's cool!

[@s1l3nc3d7]

"I'm Agent Grant Ward, and I can voice a villain if I want to... blindfolded"

[@harryquint7262]

We! Will! *NOT! YIELD!*

[@TeaBags0614]

I love how up to this point we have seen the Witness be this calm and confident villain but the moment we start harming it, it begins to lose its cool and have a break down

[@BoisegangGaming]

I really think the Witness was executed pretty well as a villain. It has this aura of being calm, collected, entirely set in its purpose-- but under the surface, it is primal anger, forged from an existential crisis of an entire species and whose worst elements sought apotheosis. It has never once argued its philosophy, or its certainty that it is right. It is not a being, but a weapon powered by aeons of malice, inflicting the very suffering and abuse that it claims the Traveler brings. If it was capable of self-reflection, we could call it a hypocrite.

[@CliveThorpe]

@@BoisegangGaming Yeah, I do however feel that the Witness wasn't given enough time to shine in Lightfall, because of that it seems they barely introduce the villain and its kinda rushed into the finale. Given the scale of the villain and the impact it warranted a bit more time.

[@solfighter6447]

But still the Witness was responsible for the billions of deaths in the collapse apocalypse, and not just our sol system but pretty much has happened to almost the entire universe, though I do wish we got more time for the Witness and in its perspective it’s whole goal was to end suffering, at this point the Witness really felt like a Thanos type of villain just with a few different things, but overall I think that the Witness was the most fitting overarching main antagonist for the epic finale we got for concluding the light and dark saga🙌👏

[@adamboy0559]

@@CliveThorpeit’s been here the whole time. every time we hear what we used to call the darkness was the witness. Most events were caused by the witness. Only after wq did it truly start to show itself as finally its fleet reached sol

[@bradens.3125]

"We sought to end the tyranny of a universe that does not feel" is one of the hardest lines this game has ever had voiced

[@kogden8110]

And it’s ironic, because this was just a lie it was telling itself to hide the fact that in reality, they were driven by nothing more than their rage at the traveler, and their desire to destroy everything it ever cared about

[@Sofuretu]

Something inexplicably sad about his last words. Realizing that it was one that wanted the final shape, in lieu of the collective. That in the end, it died alone, much like it was left alone by the traveler eons ago.

[@femboygorou]

it was not "left alone" by the traveler, the traveler gave its people everything they wanted and they still craved something directly telling them what to do. to achieve this, they found the veil and began to dig around the traveler's guts the way the witness is doing it in tfs. the traveler left because it wouldn't allow them to hit the off switch on reality, i'd hardly call the witness or its people "wronged" by the traveler when the worst thing it did was just not say anything.

[@creepesthesia]

it wasn't alone in its' ideas. rhulk so far is the only one who was close enough with them and shared their concept of the final shape and so on (i kinda feel they had an enough-friendly dynamic, cause of votd's armor lore tabs). but he died, so... if rhulk was still alive, he'd definetely stay till the end but yes, it's kind of sad to think about, honestly i can understand both the traveler and humanity's point and the witness's point in the plot

[@cadkls]

​@@femboygorounot what to do, but guidance.

[@thegloriouskingkronk8422]

@@cadkls guidance that the Traveler would never give them. It heard them call to it for answers, but remained silent. It didn't even have the desire to answer. It probably couldn't conceive how one could possibly ask such a question.

[@cadkls]

@@thegloriouskingkronk8422 I was correcting the other person who said the precursors demanded the traveller tell them what to do, what they actually wanted was guidance. Please, connect the dots and pay attention.

[@rxvenge2189]

Witness and Rhulk are pinnicle va in destiny.

[@EonNite]

"We - I - I don't understand." I love that line. I don't know why. It feels emotional in a way. He's genuinely confused, even despairing, in his final moments that we didn't just quietly go along with his design and raised our hand against him. He tried multiple times to convince us, and everyone else, that his way was right, but the universe teamed up to stop him. At the end of it, he's just wondering why it all fell apart. So perfect final words for the final villain of the Saga.

[@justinpearce3345]

Because 'We' (Guardians) make our own fate.

[@kasm7870]

Because, depending on your scope of the scale of the universe, The Witness' goals make sense. At some point, everything *will* be still, with nothing ever happening, the heat death of the universe. The Witness sees this, and thinks "let's prevent this from happening, and allow a form of eternal life for everything that does exist." You have to remove yourself from seeing individuality and the massive (massive) timescale for the heat death to occur for it to make sense.

[@thatoneguy1553]

@@justinpearce3345that line is so cringe and over rated

[@justinpearce3345]

@@thatoneguy1553 Buuuuuuuut it works. 🤷🏻‍♂️so

[@adamboy0559]

@@thatoneguy1553well it’s what the entire of the final shape is based around. The witness sought to control the fate of everything. We on the other hand defy this belief and kill it in turn making our own fate.

[@brandonbrown83]

I love the witness It feels like a classic villain, one that holds an idea in opposition to ours

[@AsherV20]

We are essentially fighting an ideology given form and will.

[@eduardochanfreau3921]

That's why the witness refers himself in excision as the edge that carved porpuse into being

[@adamboy0559]

It’s because of its obsession with the final shape. Truthfully we shouldn’t have even beaten it. When we fight it in the raid it’s focused purely on enacting the final shape that’s only 4 minutes away. It sends its followers to try to halt us. The only time it fights back is when we momentarily break its hold on the traveler and it gives us a chance to hurt it. Without the traveler’s intervention we wouldn’t even be able to hurt it as during dps the plate gains “ surging light” allowing us to hurt it, that’s why at the end it can’t understand how we’ve hurt it

[@ducksruleflorida4882]

*credit card declines* My therapist: 3:41

[@RyanOConnell02]

Brett Dalton should be nominated at the game awards for this performance

[@JessieYun]

Bungie made The Witness miles better with this DLC! Thanks for sharing this :)

[@jorgemigueltavares6041]

Never once thought, that the Witness was secretly Councilor Vay Hek.

[@Ananas_on_fire]

WHY ARE THESE FOOLS STILL BREATHING MY AIR?

[@transcendenceistaken]

Lmao

[@S0M3GUY778]

LOOK BROTHERS. TITS. HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAA

[@O-bearer-mine]

​@@Ananas_on_fire THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE

[@Linksays]

@@Ananas_on_fire WHY ARE THESE GUARDIANS STILL UNABLE TO ACCEPT OUR SALVATION!?

[@strider2175]

Brett Dalton deserves so much more credit.

[@BrazarB]

Very curious on where the "I will shape you into perfection yet" line comes from, as it was in the recent raid trailer. Aswell as the "Your Guardians use is yet to be determined, were in need of a God-killer". Ive heard players have gotten these lines tho, maybe from Memory dialogue in the Pale Heart

[@ProfessorHeavy1]

Hearing the Witness for the first time without its mixed voice was so cool.

[@somerandomdude7785]

Fun fact: The Witness is voiced by the same VA as Freyr from God of War: Ragnarok.

[@blackhat1018]

“YOU TREAD WHERE YOU ARE NOT WELCOME!!” Oh, so the Traveler welcomed you into its heart with open arms, did it?

[@dutchvanderlinde6568]

Nah, The Witness kinda forced it's way into the Traveler by linking to the Veil and opening the portal.

[@Mr-Moron]

I mean…after The Witch Queen, I wouldn’t be surprised if it came out that she purposely let it in to naturally give us Prismatic and therefore the power to kill it.

[@ssrgvfx1]

@@dutchvanderlinde6568 Thats exactly his point

[@adamboy0559]

Tbf by the time we reach the pale heart it has mostly full control of the the pale heart. Its rooted it’l self deep into the traveller has a massive monolith overlooking it and has the traveler itself trapped. Tho as it says this it’s lost and thr traveler is actively empowering the entire of sol to kill it

[@ReperGD]

I love how in Beyond Light, Lightfall and The Final Shape; he WANTS you to be his friend, promising so much, telling you that you are better than what people treat you as. He gives you gifts. In the last mission, he sounds like he no longer likes you. But in salvation's edge he still wants you to be your friend. even after you nearly destroy him, he still says that The Final Shape still has a place for you. But then in Excision, he wants you dead. Hate that they removed the "we are in need of a God Killer"

[@MICROKNIGHT3000]

It never wanted us to be its friend. It promises salvation with decorated words and those became more desperate as it is unable to feel doubt thats why it says what it does, but it could felt fear. What it sees as salvation and what that is to us differ. Just because I keep saying words that make you feel good while taking away the things you value one by one doesnt make me somebody you feel inclined to make a friend of. "We are not your friend, we are not your enemy, we are your...salvation"

[@adamboy0559]

Originally it wanted us to give up and accept the final shape. By the point of final shape it’s desperate. It knows we have on goal and it’s to kill it. We’ve killed everything it’s used to try prevent us from geting to it, as we fight it during the raid instead of fighting back it tries to just enact the final shape instead. By exiscion it tried to escape the pale heart even cutting itself in half severing itself from the traveler. we intercepted it and it was pinned down just outside its monolith. It looks to the sky to see thousands of ships in a fleet coming to aid in its death. All it’s got left is fear. 12 guardians and the entire of sol along with the traveler actively fighting it was already dead it just didn’t know it

[@10THPROPHET]

@@adamboy0559 Yeah that's interesting during SE the Witness isn't being cocky like Rhulk or unhinged like Nezarec. It's not attacking you outside of DPS because it thinks you're not a worthy opponent, it's actually just TOO preoccupied trying to finally end the universe and when DPS phase comes around it's the Witness fighting back in the way of saying "enough of this bullshit, get the actual FUCK out of my way you WILL not stop me and I'm going to make sure you won't". Very interesting

[@adamboy0559]

@@10THPROPHET Rhulks arrogance killed him nezarecs relentlessness got him killed. The witness learned from Both and seen the only way to win being enacting the final shape. During dps it switches up its dialogue. Usually after a first one it says something like “the final shape still has a place for you” but if you nearly 1 phase or 3 phase it tends to say “THIS WILL BE DONE” shows how the more the fight goes on the more pissed off and genuinely scared the witness becomes. It may be at its most powerful here but Also its most vulnerable. The only place we could hurt it before freeing the light

[@10THPROPHET]

@@adamboy0559 The Witness' boss fight screams desperation from both parties too. The Witness is panicking this entire fight because it is trying so hard to enact the final shape and it's getting more pissed off as you keep interrupting it incessantly. The guardians are also panicking since they know that oblivion is merely minutes away and are fighting for their lives to finally cut the Witness off from the Traveler. Strangely enough, it wasn't cocky or sadistic, it was *afraid*. I believe the guardians were absolutely afraid too but their fear was what made them fight to the end. The Witness was losing its mind in its fight during SE, knowing that a group of unstoppable demigods who it tried to recruit now could possibly put an end to its destructive plan. And surprise, we did since as Guardians do not, and never will, give up.

[@eduardochanfreau3921]

*credit card declines* Terapist: 4:44

[@artificial_S]

The witness wasnt the winnower but rather mac from philadelphia

[@Mailman679]

I keep saying this. The Witness is the ebsy villain in Destiny. And my favorite in fiction.

[@ducksruleflorida4882]

THANK YOU IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS SINCE THE RAID CAME OUT

[@juanduarte9714]

Why is his voice different from his voice in lightfall and final shape campaign?Either way it sounds fucking great

[@itsjustkriswastaken]

Just a personal theory as to why, but I think it's cause one of the precursors (or a few) took charge when some of the dissenters were shattered.

[@gracecalis5421]

This is his voice when he transforms into his big form. Before that, his voice is the same as it's always been.

[@Sipso2012]

In the first cutscene (the one with the apple kid) it sounds pretty much the same as Lightfall. I assume, as we progress further and further into thwarting the Final Shape it gets less and less collected. Also, as we release dissenters, its voice becomes less "crowded" and more defined, less whispers in it. You simply hear its later phase voice more often replaying endgame content so it may feel like it's different.

[@JaxTillman]

when does the witness say your guardians use has yet to be determined we are in need of a god killer

[@diamond5914]

I like the somewhat callback to Rhulk’s voice line “Stay and die, leave and die. It all ends the same”

[@spacemanthesplicer]

The witness is like destiny’s version of M.O.D.O.K and ultron from marvel wanting to change the universe but actually killing the universe

[@Weiss1456]

1:11 I feel like this sentence describe perfectly those who try to solo the witness in the raid

[@DioStandProud]

The fact The Witness is casted as three people with each respective voice being modified. So much talent on display to make this character a reality.

[@equinoxruinouseffigy7856]

Just Brett dalton

[@kry9548]

“One final act of entropy!” Ahh picture 😭🙏

[@10THPROPHET]

See how your Traveler gifted you *ONLY* *VIOLENCE.*

[@harpiespore6145]

I love this dialogue the witness in english audio so i hope if there is french audio for salvation edge and excision dialogue for this lines.

[@djrosette]

I think there is but I haven't played the game in French. I might eventually though 😅

[@Mystic_Rogue91]

4:46 we are the first knife

[@codypendlebury]

hey i have seen you today codfish:)

[@codypendlebury]

i am the reason the first knife loses codfish :)

[@conmanay4563]

3:00 The Traveler’s Light…WANES! Easily my favorite line

[@bradens.3125]

BEEN WAITING FOR THIS THE GOAT IS HERE

[@Spreece154]

1:18 *Doom music intensifies*

[@whovian1591]

2:44

[@bigboybeni3798]

Crazy how they actually merged a bunch of people into one being to record these

[@LazerMonarch]

No lol it's just 1 guy. Brett Dalton is the voice actor for the witness. The goat sound designers at bungie used stuff like echo, and changing the pitch to make it sound like many people.

[@balintgorbe81]

​@@LazerMonarch the joke flew past your head

[@Al-cf9qi]

Can you do a version without any game audio?

[@cooper8413]

How come the witness seemed to speak in only one voice?

[@AstridTheBee]

During the campaign we destroyed several of the main voices that it speaks with, after which it loses the layered voice.

[@cooper8413]

@@AstridTheBee that's what I thought too. But right after we injure it in the campaign, it speaks in many voices again in the cutscene immediately after. And even before then, it seems to speak in a single voice when it's angry

[@AstridTheBee]

@@cooper8413 it's fairly interesting

[@theremnants6807]

​@@cooper8413 it's most likely there's a leading member in it's collection of minds. With the most aggressive and primal of their voices being the strongest with it's ultimate form.

[@SuperBeanSquad]

It seems as though the masculine voice is the "main" voice and it comes through when it's rattled. When it offers "godhood" to us as a Disciple and Ghost mocks the idea, the masculine voice immediately drowns out the usual echoed voice.

[@thatoneguy1553]

Witness really said suffer through stasis

[@ForsythJC]

Just ran this mission on my Titan (last of my characters to do the campaign), and the Witness was absolutely FURIOUS the whole time. On my Warlock and Hunter, it seemed calmer, but this time it just continuously screamed at us. Especially that epic line at 7:12. Witness: "We. Will. Not. YIELD!" Me: "Well neither will I, sweetcheeks, so somebody's going to be disappointed . . ."

[@stevemitchell7537]

THANK YOU ❤

[@glforbie]

ltg 2:30

[@yudipota884]

6:17

[@aidenation101]

Half of these lines you can add a vine boom and make it a shitpost

[@theswearjar5909]

missed the best one when the witness says they will not YEILD get good

[@benshears5184]

You will collapse now as you did then hits hard.

[@lordskull372]

But the witness could never understand is that even with light or dark the universe is a constantly changing thing and no matter how hard some things try to change that chaos and change will always ensure that things move forward and evolve, as is the way of the universe

[@just-a_commentor]

I just love how "We" turns to "I"

[@dez7649]

Witness sounds like he’s been hitting bottle when he gets mad lol😂

[@niks660097]

Seems like traveler is just a general.

[@noisyboi1104]

Been looking for this since the drop, thanks! ❤

[@ssrgvfx1]

*Card declines* My therapist: 2:30