Next you Should do guns of the Texas rangers between 1901-2021.
@williamc.11983 жыл бұрын
My wife and I visited the Texas Ranger museum in Waco. I was able to see many of the handguns carried by various Rangers. I was pleasantly surprised to see how many 1911 and 1911A1s were carried by Rangers. I can understand their preference for them as I prefer "old slab-sides" myself.
@ronrobertson593 ай бұрын
The 1911 is the best combat hand gun ever made. I carried one for 20 years between the Army and the PD until our liability insurance band single action handguns.
@QualityPen3 ай бұрын
@@ronrobertson59”Two world wars, sonny!” I’m sure it was good for its time, but you’re talking about it like Jesus came down from Heaven himself to hand the 1911 blueprints to Colt. The 1911 never did anything special. It was just an above average pistol, and today there are objectively better alternatives.
@bcb56962 ай бұрын
@@QualityPenignorant and objectively wrong comment yes the 1911 isn’t some perfect god send weapon the way fudds and boomers pretend it is and there’s a lot of better options now but saying it was “just above average” and especially “never did anything special” shows you have no idea what you’re talking about for it’s time it was very advanced and inspired many semi auto pistols that came after that’s why it’s still able to be relevant today despite the fact it’s so old and has flaws if you have any idea of what semi autos were available when it came out then you’d realize why your comment makes zero sense
@bcb56962 ай бұрын
@@QualityPensaying it never did anything special shows you have zero knowledge of the progression of firearms it was very advanced for its time
@bcb56962 ай бұрын
@@QualityPenthe amount of handguns that were inspired by the 1911 and the fact that it was so much more advanced and reliable than any other semi auto at the time it came out shows your comment is objectively wrong just because boomers put it on a pedestal doesn’t mean it isn’t a good pistol let’s use common sense
@hickok453 жыл бұрын
Great video; I enjoyed them both!
@duelist19543 жыл бұрын
Thanks Glenn!
@ronjensen3514 Жыл бұрын
You forgot the most iconic 1895 cal. 405
@guilfordbarnhill64103 жыл бұрын
Great job Mike. Enjoyed this second installment very much. As a resident of Texas for 40 years I continue to be amazed at the hardship of the Texas citizens and the dogged endurance they lived out. It was a brutal frontier life for these early Texans surrounded by Indians and Mexicans that all wanted them dead. Survival was their day to day work. Keep it up Mike, this is your calling!
@duelist19543 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I’m glad that you enjoyed it.
@Saukdog3 ай бұрын
One of my best friends has an original Texas Ranger rifle. One of the first Winchester lever action in 30-06. that were used back then. It's in good condition and has a saddle ring on the side. He uses it when we go deer hunting in Pennsylvania. He cherishes that gun.
@PeterDad603 жыл бұрын
I lived in Arizona as a child during the 1950's and of course I prayed to some day have my own Winchester 1894 .30-30 lever action rifle and around 1992 my prayers were answered when I purchased a brand new rifle! I still love that rifle to this day in November 23, 2021. I'd like to add that I really like the Model 1895 lever action with the non detachable box, which I learned about here in this video. -Peter age 71
@burnsboysaresoldiers3 жыл бұрын
Hey Mike, what about a video on the firearms and tactics of the Indian warriors? Trade guns, sawed off muskets, (later) purchased winchesters etc
@pjbarney95803 жыл бұрын
King ranch is about 20 minutes from me. If you get the chance there is a film called Texas Rangers, made in the early 2000s. Its cheezy and a good western flick but its "about" Mcnelly and his people
@duelist19543 жыл бұрын
Is that the one with Randy Travis?
@pjbarney95803 жыл бұрын
Yes, great movie even if the story is fudged a little
@Pro-Gunn19523 жыл бұрын
Those two books will be on my coffee table very soon. Thanks!
@josiel1523 жыл бұрын
I knew nothing about the Texas Rangers except what I saw on Chuck Norris TV series, ha ha. Thanks for this Interesting story.
@duelist19543 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'm glad you enjoyed it.
@robertrobert79243 жыл бұрын
I had already planned my next range visit before this video came out. My 2 gun choices were Uberti 44-40 Henry Carbine and Uberti 44-40 Colt 1873.
@FinalFront Жыл бұрын
I'm wanting to get an Uberti 1860 Henry reproduction. Preferably in .44-40. Haven't Been able to find one. As for revolver I like the Uberti 1851 Navy .36, loaded with paper cartridges. Seems like Uberti quit making all the interesting firearms such as the 1860 Henry over these last few years. Always see a ton of short barreled 1873's and such, though.
@jeffreybarber66023 жыл бұрын
J Bàrber Australia. Being left handed I had two Winchesters in 92 model 25 20 and 94 model in 30 30. Both were excellent pig guns and very reliable. I mostly hunted on fòot in thick scrub and a fast accurate repeater was essential. In thick bush pigs will often lie doggo and snap shots over iron sights are a daily occurrence. Some as close as a few feet. Enjoy your video's, well researched and very well delivered.
@RME19113 жыл бұрын
I really enjoy this series, I have an ancestor who was a Texas ranger around this period, Being a shooting enthusiast this has been really fun for me to see the types of firearms he may have been familiar with. Thank you for your content.
@timrobinson65733 жыл бұрын
What about the forgotten frontier of Florida? Florida is where Captain Walker first used a Patterson Colt against the Seminole. His success with it in Florida inspired him to contact Colt and led to the development of the Walker Colt. Florida also has a long history of cattle ranching(we call then cowmen instead of cowboys). Many conflicts between the natives and US government. Stories of the Ashley gang robbing banks and hiding out in the Everglades, hiding their gold in the swamps before being gun down by the sheriff and his deputies. Describing the history of Florida could lead a person to think they were hearing stories from the Old West.
@johnndavis76473 жыл бұрын
You are right about Florida. Florida still produces more beef than any state except Texas. Up into the 1920s Florida was a pretty wild place. John Wesley Hardin fled to Florida and was captured by Texas rangers on a train near Tallahassee Florida. Somebody wrote a series of "western" novels set in early Florida. Barnes and Nobles carried them. Lots of history here.
@ronrobertson592 жыл бұрын
I read about every book I could lay hands on about the Texas rangers. I enjoyed your history of rangers weapons. I by far prefer the 1873 over the 1892 nothing is smoother than the 1873 that's why it is king of Cowboy Action shooting. Good video thanks Mike.
@sivaratnamasabaratnam89466 ай бұрын
The shape of 1873 & 1876 is an attraction compared to the bulky 1892s
@eamonmcdermott40323 жыл бұрын
This is terrific stuff, Mike. Hopefully, you've got more of these 'old west' historical videos.
@duelist19542 жыл бұрын
I have a few ideas.
@rhapsody58763 жыл бұрын
Great video , i love the Texas Ranger history and the old Winchester and Colt s ....
@callofthewillman44693 жыл бұрын
Ever do any reading on Lone Wolf Gonzales? One bad ass Ranger!
@OWT10003 жыл бұрын
I was dead tired when I watched this but couldn’t stop watching. Very interesting!! Thank you!
@chrisdubois76882 жыл бұрын
Yup
@bbbcfitchburg25633 жыл бұрын
Could you tell the famous tale of Ira Aten and his shoot out with Mexican rustlers when he used his new 1894 Winchester?
@sgtmajtrapp33913 жыл бұрын
Very interesting overview on the most iconic law enforcement agency in our history, really found the history and stories to add greatly to the firearms selected and used. Great job.
@Taocat13 жыл бұрын
My favorite Texas Ranger story is about the headless horseman of the Nueces strip. If you've never heard of it, I won't spoil it. Right now I am currently reading The Ranger Companies of Bandera County by Earl S. Hardin, Jr.
@Everythingblackpowder3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks Mike
@AlexCausey3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if the 1886 Winchester 45-70 was ever used by the Texas Rangers during their history?
@Full_Otto_Bismarck3 жыл бұрын
I was wondering the same thing, hopefully he sees your comment.
@dougdukes10393 жыл бұрын
The 1886 was popular with many Rangers. There are several pictures showing the 86. The caliber is a little less known. The 45-70 was available to them in them from the military so records may NOT exist. The 86's I am aware of that can be traced to a Ranger of the time are in 40-82. Hope that helps some.
@scottscheuerman61703 жыл бұрын
The 95 Winchester was also a popular rifle with the rangers around the turn of the century lots of old pictures of them with their rifles
@sivaratnamasabaratnam89466 ай бұрын
@@dougdukes1039By the time Krag & other bolt models arrived the Army issued straight magazine! Lever action became more civilian utility
@dingram10663 жыл бұрын
Oh really love the series I hope you’re able to do at least the first part of the 20th century
@mmcss11553 жыл бұрын
A couple comments to add to this fine video. Capt McNeely coined the phrase "1 riot 1 Ranger" when he sent a single Ranger to San Antonio (I think) to quell a riot. I own an original 1895 Winchester in 30-40 Krag. Which is a misnomer. Stamped on the barrel is .30 Govt. also known as .30 Army. The 1895 came in a bunch of calibers. .303, 30-40, 308, 30-06, and 45-70. Teddy Roosevelt owed this rifle in all of those calibers.
@jindlespog8045 Жыл бұрын
Very good video!
@Newtire3 жыл бұрын
One of your best (if not the best) videos Mike. Thanks for all your work!
@michaelvanwinkle7919 Жыл бұрын
Thank You for your two part series on Guns of the Texas Rangers. I had read the Miller's book, Texas Ranger John B. Jones, prior to watching your videos and enjoyed hearing you elaborate on the several incidents that Rangers were involved in. Wish you had made mention of Captain Neal Coldwell in the process. Some of the cites of incidents of Rangers fighting Indians are marked with Texas Historical Markers & Roadside Markers and can be located in books covering them., as another resource for future research. Keep producing your enjoyable videos.
@Brett2353 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed the videos since I was born and raised here in Texas. Thanks again.
@duelist19543 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I’m glad that you enjoyed it.
@OldlineWayne3 ай бұрын
Saw a colt pump rifle in the pic you showed about loading .45 mistakenly
@itzcaseykc2 жыл бұрын
I didn't like history while in school, but have learned to appreciate it more and more as time marches onward. Thanks for part two.
@spiritualawakenings62513 жыл бұрын
When I was a Texas Ranger I always favored the 1858 Remington untill I retired in 1881.
@DonDon-zm3vz3 жыл бұрын
than you for your service
@spiritualawakenings62513 жыл бұрын
@@DonDon-zm3vz What service? We just did it for the fun of it.
@spiritualawakenings62513 жыл бұрын
@Lisa Stettin Contrary to dime novels the Rangers weren't much different from today. Who needs water when there is so much whiskey, cards, and ladies of the night. Sitting around waiting for someone's ex girlfriend to rat them out didn't take much travel. Anyway the truth wouldn't have as sold many books or given way to bragging how bad we were. Just outlaws with badges.
@DonDon-zm3vz3 жыл бұрын
@@spiritualawakenings6251 🤔. . you guys are doin it right
@kennethwood7133 жыл бұрын
It was some good times riding with you.
@catyear753 жыл бұрын
Another Brilliant history lesson ! Thank you sir !
@duelist19543 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I’m glad that you enjoyed it.
@barefoofDr3 жыл бұрын
Still today in Texas when a man is a good shot they say he "Shoots like a Tennessean".
@35southkiwi163 жыл бұрын
I can understand why the Winchester 73 had such a following at the time over the the model of 92. Although heavier it's a much smoother action imo, which would be desrable when under duress I think.
@drstrangelove49983 жыл бұрын
Englishman here, I have a Winny ‘94 and two ‘92s. But I can understand why the ‘73 lasted so long, with the simple side plates and action, it was easy to clean and work on outback on the frontier.
@johnweller39872 жыл бұрын
I have a vintage model 92 in 44-40 I love very much. But I love it because all the Hollywood westerns I watched as a kid led me to believe at the time that was the Winchester Rifle that won the West. LOL. Far from it. The 73 and others are the one's which saw all the action. By the time the 92 was introduced the wild days were mostly history by then. Plus two years later the Winchester 94 came out and that stole much of the 92's thunder. I think the 92 Winchester saw very little action in the old West. Saw some in Mexico though with the revolution. Although the 94 30-30 was more popular, there are photos of the Mexican revolutionary Emiliano Zapata packing one, along with bandoleers loaded with 44-40 cartridges.
@tacman28932 жыл бұрын
I am surprised that you didn’t speak to the 1886 Winchester. I have seen photos of Texas Rangers, or so I thought, from the 1890’s using the 1886. I would have thought given the availability of ammo from the state it would have been somewhat popular. Thanks for the video.
@duelist19542 жыл бұрын
I didn't run across any in my research, but, since Rangers bought their own guns, I'm not surprised that some used the 1886.
@bobhartman25713 жыл бұрын
Thank you, excellent history info. A tough time for Texas.
@johnbernstein2033 жыл бұрын
Mike........excellent job and historically correct. How about doing a series on the holsters and leather gear of the Rangers all the way up to today. Just a suggestion and thanks from Houston, Texas.
@duelist19543 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I’m glad that you enjoyed it.
@murphy4yt3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for posting this. I enjoyed this installment even more than the first one. Great stuff!
@louislarose66133 жыл бұрын
Wow ! Another Excellent Presentation ! Well Done Sir !
@charlesirby92223 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU, I ENJOYED THIS VIDEO. The Rangers hold a special place in my heart.
@anthonydeveno90283 жыл бұрын
Great video Mike. It is interesting to learn about the most iconic law enforcement agencies in American
@terryschiller26253 жыл бұрын
Awesome Sir! The history of the west is so amazing to me. Thank you
@charliesliger8153 жыл бұрын
Try making a video on what the Arizona rangers used for a sidearm
@duelist19543 жыл бұрын
I'll put it on the list
@blairroth18123 жыл бұрын
You are truly at your best telling history “thanks”
@duelist19543 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'm glad you enjoyed it.
@1248dl3 жыл бұрын
Very informative treatment. Thanks, Mike.
@kevinbaker61683 жыл бұрын
If I remember correctly when the 1873 Colts and Winchester's came out the Ranger Captains told the men to get what they wanted, do long as it was in 44-40. That was so all Rangers had ammunition in a common caliber for rifle/carbine and pistols.
@kevinbaker61683 жыл бұрын
The Mexicans and Rangers had a great deal of animosity for each other. The Mexicans referred to the Norte Americano law men as "Wrenchas" and the Rangers referred to the other side as "Messkins". The animosity stemmed from some heavy handed or prejudicial actions.
@kevinbaker61683 жыл бұрын
The legend is Colt and Winchester entered into a "Gentleman's Agreement", they would not produce models that would compete directly with the other. No lever actions from Colt, no revolvers from Winchester.
@phredphlintstone64553 жыл бұрын
@@kevinbaker6168 I believe today that would be called insider trading
@AmericanMinuteman953 жыл бұрын
Hopefully we can get one from the 1900 onward. Some of the custom 1911s are stunning
@callofthewillman44693 жыл бұрын
Like Lone Wolf’s 1911 with the trigger guard cut off and the thumb safety pinned down and the grip safety tied down with raw hide, no safety’s at all, Lone Wolf was one bad mother
@snappers_antique_firearms3 жыл бұрын
Yeah 3rd viewer. Great video by the way. And I have been waiting for this one. being a descendant of a Texas confederate general. Also from three different Texas Rangers through this time
@albertopontes49672 жыл бұрын
Smashing, I just loved your informative comments, which were a lesson to me about Texas Rangers's History and showing both episodes with your pictures, photos and shooting videos (I have a lever action Winchester gun, 30.30, that I use for hunting wild boars at day light )
@grumpyoleman21523 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that presentation. I know that took quite a lot of time. Very interesting!
@davidslone97763 жыл бұрын
Great video on the Texas Rangers. We appreciate your time, and efforts. Thank you.
@TripleAAA533 жыл бұрын
Outstanding TUTORIAL Mike !!!!! Thx !!!!!
@stang37873 жыл бұрын
I remember an add Winchester used to run in the late 1950's showing a group of about 20 ranges with all but one with a Model 94. The odd ball had a Krag carbine.
@alswann27023 жыл бұрын
I'm still the oddball with my Krag carbine. Everytime I go the range someone's gotta ask me, "What the hell is that??" Peseants!
@100dfrost3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, thank-you sir.
@JohnSmith-dt6ls3 жыл бұрын
Great job Mike!! been following you for years and love your history lessons the most.
@duelist19543 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'm glad you enjoyed it.
@jeffshootsstuff3 жыл бұрын
Been looking forward to this video.
@jeffdecker99693 жыл бұрын
Great video sir.. Loved hearing the history
@darkoflight49383 жыл бұрын
Thank you again for this presentation. This is a wonderful mix of history AND showing off the guns involved. I´m sure it has been done before but you do it in the perfect mix of detail and broad picture. Good stuff! Maybe a series of history of famous characters of the west and their guns? Keep up the good work!!!!
@davidgodley5213 жыл бұрын
I like my Henry Big Boy .357 brass finnish, wide lever and my GP 100, 6" stainless steel barrel.
@tommygun60283 жыл бұрын
Great Historical Story and Gorgeous Guns !!!!!!!!! Thanks for sharing Mike 👍
@falcon52153 жыл бұрын
Great series....very entertaining and informative! Thank you
@vyderka3 жыл бұрын
Many many thanks for your work!
@robertreisner81323 жыл бұрын
I greatly enjoy your video's. From Alaska.
@classicgunstoday19723 жыл бұрын
Great video. Never knew that they used ball and cap 1860 in early 1870s. No conversions? Another great book: “Comanches: The History of A People” by famous Texas historian, the late T.R. Fehrenbach written in 1974 and reprinted in 2002
@Sagittariustoo3 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed both videos on this topic, just outstanding, thanks. 👍
@olskool39673 жыл бұрын
very nice mike, thank you for that history lesson,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
@sdjb1113 жыл бұрын
Great video Mike, Love the history lessons. Very well done. Thank you Sir.
@duelist19543 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'm glad you enjoyed it.
@YakubibnEsau7 ай бұрын
I really enjoyed this series. Thank you for the presentation!
@PPISAFETY2 жыл бұрын
This was incredibly interesting. Great job, Mike!
@stephenrice45543 жыл бұрын
Wonderful piece of history , thank you 👍🇬🇧
@BillB233 жыл бұрын
Winchester sold a bunch of M1895s to Russia chambered in 7.62x54R. They had a guide for a stripper clip. Given the choice, I'd rather have a Winchester than a Mosin.
@johnfessenden37713 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike
@kevinmarrett95322 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite things you’ve ever made. Was sad when the videos were over!
@duelist19542 жыл бұрын
I’m glad you enjoyed them.
@leeadams59413 жыл бұрын
Once again a great video love to see ya bring them up to present
@williamobrien64182 жыл бұрын
My mom’s maiden name is Saunders and we had a family member (Saunders) that was a Texas Ranger. Not sure if it was her Grandfather or Great Grandfather.
@nomadpi12 жыл бұрын
Thks. I read a huge amount of history. I'm familiar with all the books you've mentioned. Interesting info. Post-Civil War, my ancestors left Alabama and "went to Texas." They were typical Texans and I have no qualms re: their attitudes. They had real-life reasons for their attitudes.
@SlickSixguns3 жыл бұрын
I think you should a video similar for all frontier law enforcement state forces
@lloydknighten50713 жыл бұрын
Mike, thanks for the two, fantastic videos. I learned about The Rangers that I didn't know.
@duelist19543 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'm glad you enjoyed it.
@lloydknighten50713 жыл бұрын
@@duelist1954 Mike, I am a huge fan of the .44 caliber 1858 Remington New Model Army revolver. Do you know if any Texas Ranger battalions used them; instead of the 1860 Colt?
@lloydknighten50713 жыл бұрын
@@duelist1954 Mike, what do you think about the anti-gunner claim that those of us who get our cap-n-ball revolvers converted into cartridge are breaking the law. I feel that is anti-gunner BS. What does the law really say?
@duelist19543 жыл бұрын
@@lloydknighten5071 Not officially, but Rangers often used personal guns, so there likely were some in service.
@duelist19543 жыл бұрын
@@lloydknighten5071 The conversion cylinders are totally legal. Back in the 1990s I had a letter from the ATF stating that.
@deniskozlowski93703 жыл бұрын
Great video. It would be cool if you could do episodes on some of the other ranger units on the frontier. Specially, the Arizona and California ranger units.
@AmericanMinuteman953 жыл бұрын
This please.
@trentbresler31793 жыл бұрын
I agree that would be awesome as well.
@Velocispic3 жыл бұрын
Say you're a Fallout: New Vegas fan without saying you are ;)
@hadleygirty84492 жыл бұрын
Well we all know that the Arizona rangers only had big irons on their hips
@Leroy-Jenkem2 жыл бұрын
AND THE ARIZONA RANGER WITH THE BIG IRON ON HIS HIIIIIPP
@rogerharris80813 жыл бұрын
Great content Mike and thanks for your research on this topic.
@douglasturner61533 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike. Very informative and interesting. I appreciate all your hard work making these video's. Great subject matter too.
@Uukassiu3 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed both parts very much. Thank you for this videos. I need to get my hands on them lever actions one day.
@williamhoppe45003 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Mike. Such an interesting and informative series. I certainly enjoyed every minute.
@johnndavis76473 жыл бұрын
Men that knew their guns. They pretty much had the best guns available at the time. As guns progressed the Rangers took full advantage of the improvements in power and range. The large bore single-shot Sharps carbine was with them for a good while especially for the Indian fighting. It provided enough power and range to shoot horses out from under Comanche putting them afoot and easier to catch. The fact that the government was giving them ammo didn't hurt either
@Pro-Gunn19523 жыл бұрын
Great video very informative and entertaining
@derekgray43133 жыл бұрын
Great video Mike. I really like these videos with your narration of the back stories.
@richardwoolard98042 жыл бұрын
I am new to your channel and love your history lessons as well I’m sure there are many of us who would like to see a history of one of the greatest pistols ever made “the 1911” Thank you for all your content RGW in NC
@derekp26743 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mike, that was interesting and entertaining and I learnt a lot, including the true historical basis for the the "big bore Sharps carbine" carried by Texas Ranger LaBoeuf in "True Grit".
@duelist19543 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'm glad you enjoyed it.
@grayj98k132 жыл бұрын
Awesome Video Mike! Thanks for all your hard work! I really love seeing the history behind it all… crazy to me that “provide your own sidearms” was so prevalent back in the day considering today most departments dont even give you the option. I’ve always been more of a sidearm guy than a rifle guy… good to know that if I was a ranger from the 1820s-1890s I could be as picky as i wanted lol.
@davidhughes86613 жыл бұрын
Great video very interesting
@davidstuck28667 ай бұрын
Thank you Mike, another great video. you certainly have a knack for this kind of thing.
@fredjacobsen5025 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Mike for these historically researched fantastic videos.
@duanephillips234310 ай бұрын
Just saw this; like all of yours that I've seen, it's great. Thanks. You have inspired me to get my CVA Colt 1860 back in action after decades as a display on the shelf.
@tr44802 жыл бұрын
04:00 The rangers were also issued a highly efficient hat which collected spent casings for later use or disposal. (If you slow down the video you can actually see some of the spent casings flying up and landing on the brim of his hat.)
@jimb77103 жыл бұрын
Great story about the Rangers and their firearms. Thank you
@win18853 жыл бұрын
Another interesting istoey lesson, Mike. Really enjoyed it!
@brucemorrison2132 Жыл бұрын
Perhaps of some interest to those who admire the Texas Rangers, is a fact many are unaware of , that from their beginning in 1821 thru to the War for Southern Independence, there was no official (nor unofficial) badge for Texas Rangers. Evidently they each were given signed papers proclaiming them as Texas Rangers, but they had no badges. They were disbanded during the war years as nearly ALL joined Confederate Cavalry units. After the war ,from 1865 to 1874 they were not re-instated, as a hated Carpet-bagger governor established the hated , over-bearing Texas State Police. But in 1874 Texas was able to rid itself of the carpet-bagger governor and his hated State Police, and finally the Texas Rangers were reinstated. It was at this time that official Ranger Badges were issued.
@Datboi814Ай бұрын
You mean the civil war that the south started and killed countless American citizens