Way back in the late 1960's , the "meter maids" in Macon Georgia carried Smith and Wesson revolvers in .32 S&W long. I recently gave my mom's 4 inch barrel Smith, to my son, so that he and his girlfriend would have a house gun for self defense. When you need a gun, anything is better than a sharp stick.
@Gieszkanne3 жыл бұрын
The .44 special was the most impressiv!
@jaredgreen58403 жыл бұрын
You sir are becoming one of the best KZbinrs for ballistics testing filling the gap that TNoutdoors9 left when he stopped uploading videos on a regular basis. My personal favorite across the board for personal protection has to be Federal HST with an honorable mention for Hornady critical duty in full size handguns 👍
@GunSam3 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@jaredgreen58403 жыл бұрын
@@Valorius Yah he is. Although he seems to do alot more testing involving armor 👍
@awiedevilliers12883 жыл бұрын
That 44 special round open up a lot and penetrated deep enough would be an excellent choice for any 44 mag
@WheelgunsOnWheels3 жыл бұрын
Excellent demonstration with real world application. You and Paul Harrel are the top two most trustworthy tubers regarding ammunition testing and comparison. I really like the fact that the revolvers out performed the semis in essentially all categories and the most effective semi was the .380 ACP. All of this is very satisfying information. Well done!
@GunSam3 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@txjm79653 жыл бұрын
Great video (as always). I carried the REM 125 grains in my 586 when I started out in LE 27 years ago and still carry it today in a Ruger Wiley Clapp GP100 7 shot (retired from LE). Perfect 357 round after all these years.
@GunSam3 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@876mpr3 жыл бұрын
Always liked reading Wiley’s stuff on .357 Magnum and .44 Special. Still searching for a box of those Remington 125’s.
@txjm79653 жыл бұрын
@@876mpr Very hard to find, hopefully they will make some more soon. Buffalo Bore 125’s are great too but damn pricey!
@876mpr3 жыл бұрын
@@txjm7965 For sure. Definitely can’t do any practicing with the BB’s. Too low on small pistol primers to do much practicing that way either.
@hairy1harry13 жыл бұрын
@@876mpr The bullets are very rare as components and the hot loaded ammo is extinct . Winchester has a hot 110 load that's pretty near the same and they're relatively cheap . They are in the white box .
@Dennisthemenace403 жыл бұрын
Remington’s 125 gr SJHP 357 Magnum is a load I’ve found shootable in a Ruger SP 101 with LOTS of power. It’s a combination Masad Ayoob favors.
@d.hayward52323 жыл бұрын
One of your better presentations - in other words, EXCELLENT. I was very impressed with the 44 special round in particular, looks like something that could make my model 29 a viable option for home defense. Well done Sir!
@WhoWouldWantThisName3 жыл бұрын
I appreciate you making this video for us Sam. As you said, this is all about you and YOUR guns. Something might function well in someone else's gun or might shoot well in their experience, but that doesn't make it good for you, or vise versa. All seem like solid performers to me anyway.
@GunSam3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, it's surprising how much one make and model of gun can be different from one to the other. Like for instance my G2C and Ruger Security 9. The Security 9 has to be on the slow end to have about the same velocity as the G2C. I have seen it with other guns too, like that Beretta pistol is faster than average and that .22 revolver is slower than average.
@Followme5563 жыл бұрын
@@GunSam While i dont agree with all your conclusions, i definitely appreciate the effort. Keep the vids coming. :)
@jamesmutz74353 жыл бұрын
Excellent episode, your channel is my go to when I’m looking for ammunition performance. My carry ammo is all based on your testing. Great job and thanks for the information!
@GunSam3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@The_Rob_D3 жыл бұрын
Let me start off by saying that I LOVE your channel. There is a massive amount of great information among your videos. The issue I’m having, and what I could only imagine a fair amount of other people (I’d be willing to bet most) have is that a lot of your ammo tests involve long slide hand guns. Which are great, but again, a lot of people don’t carry full size hand guns. I’d love to see you put out a video of your ammo tests on compact and subcompact guns which is what a vast majority of folks carry or use for self defense. Again though, love the channel, keep up the great work!
@GunSam3 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@willo77342 жыл бұрын
Your choices in the snub 357 and the 44 are a great example of why Buffalo Bore is such a great company. They give us a lot of flexibility in our choices. I’ve found that going down to the lighter ammo but using the Buffalo bore “heavy” version gives a great medium load that is very useful for self defense. I like their heavy 38, heavy 44 special, and heavy 32 H&R mag a lot because they give a great balance between power and recoil.
@danoneill28463 жыл бұрын
I agree with your mind set of rounds that are user friendly that work well Vs Balls to the wall ... no matter what . More is not always better .
@frankhinkle57723 жыл бұрын
Thanks for giving us this overview. With the ammo shortage this gives me more ammo to look for. I'll forward this video along to others.
@GunSam3 жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot!
@robertbryan54913 жыл бұрын
I learn a lot about rounds and the way they perform in real world shooting , I carry an sp101 357 mag for EDC so watch with great interest what different rounds do from different barrel lengths. Keep up the good work
@GunSam3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. My first carry gun and the one I qualified my permit on easily was an SP101 2.25". Very good gun.
@oldcop183 жыл бұрын
I learned something from you again & that’s saying a lot for this 74 year old retiree. It’s particularly interesting that you mentioned recoil/follow up shots as a consideration in round selection, something my street experience taught me too. Have you stopped carrying the 342 PD? I only ask b/c recoil control is a BIG consideration w/my 340PD.
@GunSam3 жыл бұрын
My girlfriend had her Bodyguard 38 stolen so I gave her my 342 PD and some Winchester Ranger ammo. I figured that I still have my 2" Taurus .357 for testing .38 ammo, so I could live without it and still do videos. She lives alone and is very small, so I felt it was needed for her to have it.
@oldcop183 жыл бұрын
@@GunSam Smart play.
@albertforletta14983 жыл бұрын
I’m 61. I watch all his videos. I have learned a lot from gun Sam. His ammo test have helped me determine what ammo I buy for self defense.
@cancermonkey73343 жыл бұрын
@@GunSam great video. Thanks for all your hard work and diligence putting these videos together. I always learn something beneficial when I watch.
@dragonusmc03113 жыл бұрын
Good one Sam you deserve a lot more subs.
@GunSam3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@scubaguy0073 жыл бұрын
You know what works best for you. I like that you have tested your ammo choices. Too many people don’t and they just pick what someone else recommends. I’m a big believer that a snubby .357 is going to be more effective with a .38+P. Thank you for all you do and your efforts. All hail the HST. 🤣😂🤣
@GunSam3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, and I was trying to explain that in part the best I could. Even more so than each gun shooting a given round a certain way, each person feels recoil differently so it's best to pick what you shoot well and go from there.
@MAG-li5jo2 жыл бұрын
Thanks again Sam for turning me onto the Remington UMC 357 Mag SJHP ammunition. I have stocked up on it and that is what I keep loaded in my 357's. I have plenty of Buffalo Bore, Underwood. Hornady and other great self defense rounds, but the Remington UMC is what I keep loaded. Helps me sleep better at night.
@YellowHammer263 жыл бұрын
Thanks Sam, I appreciate the video and all the time and effort you put into it.
@GunSam3 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@richardcolligon42773 жыл бұрын
Great video, I watched it twice. I love the 327, but really liked that 44 special. That of course Elmer Keith's favorite round for year's. He used to hunt with it, but I do find with my 454 Casual that it doesn't matter what round any of them will stop someone on the first shot. ( lol ). Buffalo Bore really has some awsome ammunition. Have a great day!!
@GunSam3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. The more and more I test the copper hollow points, the more I think they are superior in some ways.
@richardcolligon42773 жыл бұрын
@@GunSam yes and it's amazing that the special round's are better then the full power one's. I want to get the 327 round, my hand's are getting bad with arthritis and a full power load just kill my hand's. I'm not a 9mm guy, but they performed very well and that Remington 38 is what police officer's used for year's, it's a real man stopper. If I ever get out to Arizona, I want to get all 24 Taurus raging hunters in all sizes and color's. They all come in a 5.25 inch barrel and the 357 with 7 rounds, would be great with the 38's. Canik just came out with a new pistol, it's still the FTS or X but its like a gen 2. The original SFX ( I got it ) was a competition model but the trigger pull was less then 2lbs. The new one has a safer trigger pull. If I was going to carry a 9mm that might be it. Canik gives you a cleaning kit and tool set, you get a lot for your money. I've seen two review's, the best one was on GB guns. Have a great evening my friend!
Seems you've got a good selection all around. This video also reminded me of why I like the 380 ACP. People sure underestimate that mouse caliber. I'm quite impressed with the 327 Federal Mag. That's a nice platform. For carry, I like to go with small and light. For home defense, a long gun (so long as it isn't too long) seems to me to be the way to go. There are lighter loads for 12ga shotgun. That still has some recoil though. Although it is more likely you will be moving onto the next target rather than doing a fast followup. Carbine length rifles are also good. If you don't want too much blast, there are a lot of pistol caliber carbines to choose from. If only the NFA didn't exist so you could run the barrels at reasonable length.
@GunSam3 жыл бұрын
In contrast is where it's at for .380 ACP. People think it's weak, but in the gun size class of .32 auto and .22 LR, the .380 is like a massive manstopper. I like it, always have.
@Fudmottin3 жыл бұрын
@@GunSam In a larger platform, like the M&P 380EZ or a P365XL chambered for 380 ACP, I think it would be the bees knees (whatever that means). That is, a very low recoil pistol with good reliability and easy to rack slide. And I know for a fact that no one wants to be shot with anything!
@GunSam3 жыл бұрын
@@Fudmottin Yeah, an EZ 380 is on my wish list. I think it would be great, and I think the HST .380 in it would be basically low end 9x19 ballistics, with the other ammo a dream to shoot.
@Fudmottin3 жыл бұрын
@@GunSam That would be an interesting combination to test. I do hope you get the funding for it. I would PayPal you some, but if you look at my channel, you might see why I'm short on funds at the moment! LOL.
@jasonvoorhees27013 жыл бұрын
.380 is a very respectable round .. I normally carry 9 .. but I do carry my LCP 2 when I'm wearing gym shorts and t shirt ..
@willo77343 жыл бұрын
Great testing as always. I’ll give some of these a try. You’ve already turned me into a Buffalo Bore fanatic over the last few months.
@GunSam3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. At the time of the ammo shortage, Buffalo Bore was all I could find. Not that this was a negative as their ammo is good.
@exothermal.sprocket3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the work you put in, for the stash of resource and knowledge. I hope you back up all of these videos in case Google goes more ape crap than they already have.
@GunSam3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I bought a large external hard drive recently, as my PC drive was full, so I should have them.
@exothermal.sprocket3 жыл бұрын
@@GunSam Excellent!
@danoneill28463 жыл бұрын
I was looking at your videos to try & find a 44 Sp loaded with the same bullet you just tested in the 44 mag . I think it would work well down loaded . @2:00 great point & proof of all lead vs copper , I have never seen it stated that way in 22 Lr . I am a little surprised it was that much difference .
@SouperAsH3 жыл бұрын
The only thing that would improve upon the content of this vid, is a list of these cartridges in the description. This has been remarkably informative. Thank you, for taking the time to create the video, and especially, for the collective experience that you've gathered over the months, and months of testing various calibers. This is very useful stuff.
@troy94773 жыл бұрын
Great video. Nice choices. In the 327, you didn't mention the bullet weight- 85 or 100 gr? Is it an XTP? Nice to see the Win USA doing well in 380. Great penetration and a touch of expansion. That 44 Spl load is dynamite. I am not familiar with it- i gravitate toward the 190 gr LSWCHP. I was expecting the BB 158 gr +p LSWCHP in the 357 snubby- the 125 is an interesting choice. I have seen good performance in tests of the Rem 125 gr +p SJHP. And of course in the 357, what else is there? Been getting it done since the 70's. My favorite load. No surprise on the 9 and 40- HST looks like great stuff. I have always favored Gold Dot and still have some, but i will have to try the HST.
@GunSam3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Yeah the BB .327 Federal Heavy comes in 100 gr only. As you might notice, I don't feature lead rounds in any defensive revolver round. That's because they always have a ton of smoke when loaded hot, and in a defensive gun I try to avoid that. Eliminating flash as well as smoke just eliminates as much distraction as possible, along with eliminating overbearing recoil. I find these to be important.
@boogitybear22833 жыл бұрын
These Ballistic Tests are as exciting as The Price as Right Wheel Spin!
@Narsuitus2 жыл бұрын
Based on my accuracy and reliability handgun range tests, my soft-target modeling clay penetration tests and/or my hard-target pine wood board penetration tests, here are my favorite personal protection ammunition selections for my handguns. By personal defense, I include home defense, vehicle defense, wilderness defense, SHTF defense, concealed carry, and open carry. 25acp Remington 50 grain FMJ in Beretta model 21A with 2 1/2 inch barrel 380acp Fort Scott 95 grain solid copper in Hungarian Walther with 4 inch barrel 38 special 158 grain flat-nose lead in Smith & Wesson revolver with 5 inch barrel 9mm in Heckler and Koch USP with 4 inch barrel Federal Premium Personal Defense 147 grain JHP Remington bonded 147 grain JHP Speer Gold Dot 147 grain JHP Hornaday XTP 147 grain JHP 357 magnum 180 grain hard cast lead in Smith & Wesson revolver with 6 inch barrel 45acp in Heckler and Koch USP with 6 inch barrel Remington bonded 230 grain JHP MagTech 230 grain FMJ Note: other ammunition I wish I could try include Buffalo Bore and Underwood but I only evaluate what I can buy locally.
@TXBassAngler242 ай бұрын
Ever since I got hip to Underwood ammo, I only use the .38 SPL +P, 158g, hard cast Elmer Keith in my S&W Model 10-8 made after 1984. Great Velocity & Energy ratings. Great for many different scenarios.
@Lateralus10072 жыл бұрын
One of my favorite new episodes Well done 👏
@dangerman0073 жыл бұрын
Great video! Nice to know what the Pro carries! 😊 Some the rounds were real thumpers like the .40, 44 special, .327 and .357 mag. Recoil and follow up shots are just as important. Who cares if you have the hottest load if you are flinching before you even fire it.
@GunSam3 жыл бұрын
Thanks lol. I slowed down the real thumpers lol, noticed in editing only 3 made everything jump, and of course the .327 moved the blocks.
@OldManMontgomery3 жыл бұрын
Odd. The 180 grain HST loading penetrated to the same depth as the others, AFTER knocking the preliminary stuff off the gel block AND lifting the gel block considerably. That is a excess contribution of energy not counted. Perhaps it should be noted, even if it's unmeasurable. I'm still not convinced kinetic energy ('foot-pounds' based on velocity) is the real measure of usefulness in this question. For a handgun, I still prefer momentum.
@Vernonu93 жыл бұрын
shhhhhh.......the anti-.40s gang are listening. Meanwhile, my police trade-in Glock 22 gen4 w/tac-light stands at the ready. shhhhh
@OldManMontgomery3 жыл бұрын
@@Vernonu9 I rather like the .40 S&W round. Carried it first in an H&K USP (full size) then as a hideout pistol in the H&K USP compact. I did note the compact version did present a little more recoil than a Colt (lightweight) Commander in .45 ACP. Not amounting to a serious concern. I went back to the Commander ONLY because I wanted to carry a U. S. made pistol. Not because I was dissatisfied.
@chrish.40673 жыл бұрын
Excellent as always. It's good to see different options.
@GunSam3 жыл бұрын
Thanks again!
@justinappling6143 жыл бұрын
I was only surprised by one round. The .22. I was sure that you were going to use the Federal Punch
@jasonsliger54303 жыл бұрын
I may try some of that Blazer out of my LCP 2, didn't realize that it was the mini mag unplated. Thanks and take care.
@STLSNIPER3 жыл бұрын
This is probably the BEST video you have made. I follow and check your channel daily for your vids...😎 I carry the 125gr Remington's in my Taurus 627 Tracker. Seven shots. A VERY good self defense choice..! Keep the videos coming..!!
@GunSam3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. I saw it as average or possibly arrogant, the way I titled it as i'm not really 'anyone", but I wanted it to be seen by my subs and understood.
@thetoneknob4493 Жыл бұрын
my fav 357 load was a full charge of h110 with a 125gr hts doing 1674 fps from a 6 in barrel. recoil is light for the performance you get.
@STLSNIPER3 жыл бұрын
Thanks to this video (LOL) I just ordered some Federal HST 124gr +P's for my Sig P365 which has a 3.1" barrel. These worked great coming out of your Taurus G2C 3.2" barrel..😎
@GunSam3 жыл бұрын
I have never seen a bad review of that ammo. Never a mistake.
@whomagoose68973 жыл бұрын
As you load/unload you Sig-365 magazines. Does the stiff magazine springs get somewhat looser? Loading the 9th & 10th round in a Sig-365 ten round magazine is a booger bear without a magazine loader.
@STLSNIPER3 жыл бұрын
@@whomagoose6897 Yes they do. Leave them fully loaded for a few days. Then manually unload and load them again. I have done this with 10 and 12rd mags for my P365. I use a Glock 9mm speed loader and it works really well...😎
@whomagoose68973 жыл бұрын
@@STLSNIPER I use the MagLULA UPloader magazine loader. Works on every brand of magazine. How does the Glock loader compare to the UPloader? The U & P stands for "Universal Pistol" loader. The current gen-2 UPloaders even have a magazine unloader on the side opposite of the loading gate. Load magazines on one side and unload on the other. The gen-1 UPloader doesn't have the unloader feature. If you see the words "Patent Pending" you have the gen-1. Patent numbers are listed on the gen-2. MagLULA stopped making the gen-1 loaders about 15 years ago. No gen-1's on the market. I have both.
@briankeithwood3 жыл бұрын
I carry a 40 and use the HST. Glad to see you picked it, maybe I made a good call. I tested much less ammo than you have and this worked best of the ones I tried.
@RB-lk4or3 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. Would’ve thought the 158 gr bb lswc would be the choice for the snub. Interested to hear your reasoning.
@GunSam3 жыл бұрын
That round has recoil closer to a .357 Mag plus a lot of smoke.
@brianmiles4013 жыл бұрын
The buffalo bore 158gr+p out of a lightweight snub is pretty intense (for me). I opted for the standard pressure version. Can handle that for strong or weak hand only drills. Thinking about the Buffalo 158+p out of my s&w 340 is making me flinch just sitting here!! Haha
@podsmpsg13 жыл бұрын
I carry Federal Punch. I used to carry Hornady Critical Defense. I still have Critical Defense, but I got Federal Punch and started carrying it.
@GunSam3 жыл бұрын
The limited testing I did on the Punch was pretty good. I would probably carry it as well if I had that.
@podsmpsg13 жыл бұрын
@@GunSam yeah. I read good reviews about punch. When I went to the gun store, Punch was the only .38 Special the gun store had.
@davidp733 жыл бұрын
Great video. This type of information really helps in narrowing down ammo selection
@GunSam3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Yeah I suppose it says a lot when the guy who tests ammo weekly says, hey this is what I choose personally lol
@mountainhobo3 жыл бұрын
Surprised you didn't have a .45 ACP there, that would more or less match the .44 Special performance. To be honest, the more I look at those tests, at ballistic charts, etc., the more I think they had it figured out for a handgun 100+ years ago - big and slow.
@GunSam3 жыл бұрын
I don't personally use .45 ACP as my only .45 ACP gun is a Glock and unreliable. Nothing against .45 ACP, I just don't use it so I went with the honest theme of what I actually use. I don't keep my Glock loaded.
@mountainhobo3 жыл бұрын
@@GunSam To go with your screen name, you need the S&W 625. :)
@guarddog3183 жыл бұрын
@@GunSam - You need a revolver in .45 Colt.
@randallminor48663 жыл бұрын
I believe that his Glock has the .45 conversion kit on it and is not as reliable as the factory slide.
@GunSam3 жыл бұрын
@@mountainhobo If I went that route I feel like a .460 S&W Mag "snubby" 4" cut for moon clips would give me all the options I need.
@curtisparker95595 ай бұрын
That .44 special is intriguing.
@plasticglock3 жыл бұрын
I think I anticipated most of your choices. I watch a lot lol. I didn't expect the 38's in the Taurus 605 though. You've tested a lot of 357's through that short barrel and I thought they mostly did good. Did you choose that for the reduced recoil?
@GunSam3 жыл бұрын
Yeah. All .357's cause me to flinch. All of them have huge flash and recoil, and the few lower recoil rounds I tried had more recoil than this .38 but didn't perform better and were inconsistent. This round was the highest power and lowest recoil round I have tried, and still does well for terminal ballistics.
@Bonham-ik1pe3 жыл бұрын
Great video Sam! I’ve been a sub for a while and have learned a lot about bullet design and ballistics from your channel. I just recently got into reloading. Have you ever thought about doing a short series for beginner reloaders? I’m sure you have a lot of great tips in this regard.
@GunSam3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. For the past few years youtube has threatened people who show how to "manufacture" ammunition with channel deletion. They claim it's against their policy, so very few people attempt videos like that anymore. If they do they are usually a small enough channel to not worry about it.
@Bonham-ik1pe3 жыл бұрын
@@GunSam Man, they are brutal. That’s too bad. Keep up the good work and thanks for all of the great information.
@robertrenstrom46683 жыл бұрын
@@GunSam Understanding the censorship on KZbin, could you do it on Full 30 or one of the other platforms and reference those in your KZbin channel? I, too, am just beginning to gather the materials for reloading have several of the books but would like to focus my load development without a lot of "rabbit holes" to go down.
@Tom-cp6yj3 жыл бұрын
115gr Gold Dots in my Walther PPS. It's standard pressure but it's loaded pretty hot and even though there's not much data on them, I'm confident it's a good short barrel load and not to mention I paid out of my ass for them for 50 round box 😅
@GunSam3 жыл бұрын
A few months back ammo prices were a lot more. Now days the Gold Dot 9mm go for like 90 cents a round.
@dcidci10123 жыл бұрын
I would like to see how Lawman 38 spc. semi wad-cutters stack up. You do good vids, Thank you...
@kpg-uo1tm3 жыл бұрын
Just bought a Ruger LCR in .327 Federal. I will be trying all three Buffalo Bore rounds in .32 Long, .32 Mag, and those Heavy .32 7Federals. It will be my primary carry gun within a week.
@GunSam3 жыл бұрын
The .32 Mag and .327 Buffalo Bore are essentially the same round. I think I had a difference of like 20 FPS between the two from a snub.
@kpg-uo1tm3 жыл бұрын
@@GunSam That's good feedback. Im sure I will end up .32 mag. That was a great round in the video
@user-mm4je1sb9b Жыл бұрын
Great Vid- very impressed with that 44 special
@mrmann44 Жыл бұрын
That 44 Spl was fantastic! 👏
@Graydog-sx6le3 жыл бұрын
I’ll be honest. It’s a good selection. They all seemed to preform about the same and seem reliable. I have some of those in my handguns and some gave me pause to think about. Good video. Thanks for the cool content as always.
@GunSam3 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@jimsanders4412 Жыл бұрын
Interesting video. I load everything I have with HSTs, and it doesn't look like I'll be changing that anytime soon. However...The HSTs are getting harder to find here locally (central Arkansas), but the Punch is pretty much getable anywhere around here.
@GunSam Жыл бұрын
Punch is decent for what it is. Was impressed when the 230 gr Punch expanded in my testing, as most 230 gr .45's will not expand.
@markmuch12953 жыл бұрын
Glad to see you carry a .327 fed mag. What do you think of the Hornady critical defense and American eagle .327 fed mag rounds?
@GunSam3 жыл бұрын
I have only tried the 85 gr American Eagle round, and even then I wasn't too impressed. The Critical Defense was decent, but I felt like it wasn't as consistent as I wanted.
@frankhinkle57723 жыл бұрын
I watch several channels and I'm not impressed by any of the Hornady handgun offerings. For the $$$ there's a lot to choose from from other reputable companies. I like that Sam is testing several different ways. I do miss the baloney splatter.
@Followme5563 жыл бұрын
Have you tested Underwood 380+P XTP? XTP seems to be the one round that really expands and penetrates beyond 12" in all mediums. Not many people at all have tested the +P version. Muzzle energy is right between a 9mm makarov and standard pressure 9mm parabellum. Seems like it should be the ideal choice for 380.
@GunSam3 жыл бұрын
No, but I have ran some .380+P Buffalo Bore before.
@Followme5563 жыл бұрын
@@GunSam There are many different kinds of 380+P (as i know you know). For instance, 380+P gold dot expands great, but doesnt penetrate enough for many...same for 380+P barnes solid copper hollow point. The 380+P im referring to uses the XTP bullet, which has much more controlled expansion, and tends to penetrate more.
@Followme5563 жыл бұрын
@@GunSam There are also no gel tests at all that i've seen for underwood 380+P Golden Saber. So if you tested it, you'd be the only one on youtube that I've seen.
@addytuney20283 жыл бұрын
Great info, thank you Sam!
@GunSam3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@ShaunPanzer3 жыл бұрын
Sam this is a video I was waiting for ! Thankyou !
@GunSam3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@bobbytarte22993 жыл бұрын
Wow another informative video thank you for your knowledge.
@GunSam3 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@sniper.3083 жыл бұрын
Try spear gold dot 158grain hollow point for 357mag awesome power. Shot down 2 deer deadly one shot kills.
@GunSam3 жыл бұрын
I have, and it did terrible in testing years ago. Not that it wouldn't kill a deer, but it would not expand even in a 4" barrel.
@sniper.3083 жыл бұрын
@@GunSam was a 6” barrel on my 357 mag 686 s&w . Had best car door penetration and empty Freon can penetration. Speer 357mag 158gr Speer gold dot357mag 158gr is like a 38to a357 and is the same bullet but not load I found out . Though the Speer 357 mag hollow point shot flatter with less velocity. Speer Gold dot 357 mag shot. Ok after a dot on it the hornady was best accuracy 158gr horady hollow point + p is my new hunting round.
@freedomfirst54203 жыл бұрын
That .44 Special round was impressive, for sure.
@celowski62963 жыл бұрын
At close defense A big slow moving hunk of hurt will do the trick. Think of all the people that were shot by muzzleloaders back in the day. Look up Taylor's Knockdown Formula.
@GeographyCzar3 жыл бұрын
Authoritative. An excellent apples to apples demonstration.
@GunSam3 жыл бұрын
Thank you DDR
@ryanbassett47513 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! Excellent rounds that I do too carry or use for self defense.
@GunSam3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@biggunshandguns36873 жыл бұрын
That was a very interesting video and as usual had a lot of helpful information. Can't wait to hear all the you should comments you know are about to get. You know they either didn't look at the title or they know better than you what you like. Thanks for the excellent video and keep them coming
@GunSam3 жыл бұрын
Yeah lol. I went with an honest thing, what I use, I don't use more than one ammo caliber or type in each gun, but they don't read the title "WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU .45 AUTO IS GREAT WHY DIDN'T YOU TEST .45 AUTO SUPER XTREME PENETRATOR EXPLODER"
@biggunshandguns36873 жыл бұрын
@@GunSam You forgot it won 2 world wars haha
@jackbauer907710 ай бұрын
On your .357 snub nose have you tried Buffalo bore Barnes copper round 125 grain? It works great in water jugs and 4 layers of denim when I tested it and sp101 and S&w 640 handles it great! I’m currently carrying a new sp101 with it and have it in my 640 and 649, and even my 360 that’s supper light.
@jackbauer907710 ай бұрын
Also golden saber is easy to shoot too but little over penetration but expands good in my snub nose.
@RickyJr462 жыл бұрын
You certainly did your homework Sam!
@ronaldbarnes83023 жыл бұрын
In 380 the Underwood XTP, in 9MM 147HST because it shoots a little softer than the 124’s. Nice video!
@GunSam3 жыл бұрын
Thanks.
@brianmiles4013 жыл бұрын
I carry a Sig 365 and have ran both HST 147gr and 124gr and would agree the 147 does feel a bit softer. The 124gr+p does feel a bit snappy to me. In a full size 9mm I really don't notice a difference between all 3. All great choices IMO.
@adamsaylor74273 жыл бұрын
Always good videos. Thanks for the good work! I like the Federal HST 147 grain in my M&P 2.0 Compact 9mm
@GunSam3 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@tomcarr46303 жыл бұрын
Well thought out criteria, Sam!
@GunSam3 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@BeefLettuceAndPotato3 жыл бұрын
First of all, love that I found this channel, earned a sub from me. Secondly, after seeing your videos about Federal Punch .22 and seemingly performing well, is there a reason you still prefer the Blazer to Federal Punch?
@philipfreeman723 жыл бұрын
I used target load light bullet on 357 snub .
@thomastune7767 ай бұрын
Excellent information. Thanks
@joes.75363 жыл бұрын
I was expecting you to choose Hornady 110g critical defense for your snubby 357
@briankeithwood3 жыл бұрын
For 380, have you tried the TUI or the screwdriver tipped ones (can't remember their names)? I'm assuming you did and was wondering why you rejected them. I don't often carry a 380 but when I do I always just went with cheap ball ammo and hope for good penetration.
@ratagris213 жыл бұрын
Great testing Sam. Thank you for sharing for this video and sharing you personal picks. ☯️🎩♠️
@GunSam3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@ratagris213 жыл бұрын
@@GunSam YW
@bigandy21093 жыл бұрын
Sitting here on edge Wondering what will be your choice for the 686....will it be Buffalo bore ??? Glad to see it was the Remington 125 grain sjhp
@ftdefiance13 жыл бұрын
I would be interested in a video explaining why you own each weapon and when you choose to carry them.
@HAYAOLEONE3 жыл бұрын
Said quite a few times the 327 is for its weight+shootability, in simple pocket carry (pants or jacket, a hand in the pocket doesn't draw attention). I suppose the 22 is for very active situations and warm summer days with little clothing. Pocket carry too if I remember correctly. As for the 9x19s, if I remember correctly it's inside the jacket on the belt strong side, for the capacity. Rest might be preferences or for the (not discussed here) times when carrying more than one pistol seems smart. Nothing extra-ordinary. Classic realistic time proven solutions because comfort matters.
@biggunshandguns36873 жыл бұрын
He already did that a couple months ago
@ftdefiance13 жыл бұрын
@@HAYAOLEONE still several questions for example why struggle finding a home defense round for the .44 magnum instead of adopting 357 magnum? When would you select 9 mm over 40 Smith and Wesson?
@HAYAOLEONE3 жыл бұрын
@@ftdefiance1 The 9x19s were bought before the 40... For the 44 it may be a case of felt recoil. With the same options I'd use the long barrel 9x19 for home defense as a primary tool. You?
@HAYAOLEONE3 жыл бұрын
@@ftdefiance1 Also reloading means less trouble cycling your defensive ammo with practice. Plus who knows what some people do when they found a good load? Some people 'stockpile' a little bit.
@bobcatforever34853 жыл бұрын
Really good and interesting video. Thanks for sharing your rational for the various rounds. Take care.
@GunSam3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. Take care.
@rob68503 жыл бұрын
Great video, Sam! Just curious, have you tried the 147 grain HST out of your M&P 2.0? I wonder if you would get better performance than the 124 gr +p out of the 5 inch barrel. Very impressed by the WWB .380. That is about the best I have seen from .380. The Blazer .22 has not been 100% reliable for me, but I think mine are the 38 grain, from the big "Got Ammo" milk carton. I liked your reasoning though. Would love to see you test out the SGB.
@GunSam3 жыл бұрын
Thanks. If I recall I don't think I have tested the 147 gr HST, but I am not 100% certain. I been wanting to test the 150 gr though.
@rob68503 жыл бұрын
@@GunSam definitely check out Ammo Quest and Paul Harrell's videos on the 150, there seems to be something wrong with it. But Ammo Quest put the 147 right up there with the 124 +p. I just figured it would have better penetration than what you saw with the 124 +p out of the 5-incher.
@danoneill28463 жыл бұрын
yep
@spencermichaelson1882 Жыл бұрын
I choose underwood 147gr bonded +p+. Real smackers. Why don’t u like to use super special ammo in your 9mm like buffalo bore etc?
@indianajets3 жыл бұрын
I know I sound like s Lehigh Defense salesmen, but I just don't have faith in a hollow point to be consistent. Extreme Defender 100g+p 38sp 120g 357 mag 90g 9 mm Extreme Penetrator 90g 380
@biggunshandguns36873 жыл бұрын
Aren't you glad everyone can pick what they want no matter what someone else has to say
@andybreglia94313 жыл бұрын
You should also have included both .45 ACP and .45 Colt.
@GunSam3 жыл бұрын
But considering I did a video on the rounds I personally carry, covering those would be lying.
@andybreglia94313 жыл бұрын
@@GunSam : My bad. In the Army, I was introduced to serious pistol cartridges. The instructor was a M. SGT. (master sergeant) who learned his craft against Japanese soldiers in the Pacific Theatre during WWII, hence my interest in both .45 ACP and later on, its predecessor the .45 Colt.
@revv45acp71 Жыл бұрын
Super video! Thank you.
@advrajeevpandey80143 жыл бұрын
All ammo has its own importance.
@unichooch3 жыл бұрын
After watching you buffalo bore 9mm +p+ video I was thinking that was the hot ticket for a 5 inch pistol. Is there a reason that isn't your carry choice?
@markmuch12953 жыл бұрын
In your .357 mag snubbie why not use .38+P for the first 4 shots and then .357 mag for the last round since you won't have to worry about a follow up shot?
@GunSam3 жыл бұрын
I personally rather carry the same of something in my chambers/magazines. Gives same recoil expectation.
@dcidci10123 жыл бұрын
Could you try that on an actual windshield starting with your 327 ? I would like to see.
@GunSam3 жыл бұрын
I have wanted to for year, I just need to get one sometime at a junkyard.
@alvinbraxtonjr21053 жыл бұрын
Can't go wrong with a good 357 snubbie
@tylermorrison70513 жыл бұрын
Recoil hasn't been much of an issue with my 627 PC snub nose.
@johnleeper7997 Жыл бұрын
I carry the same round in my taurus 357 model 66 7 shot
@cliffknoebel85283 жыл бұрын
Can't argue with your choices at all I actually carry a couple of them, white box 180 for the 40 pretty impressive too, not sure if you tried that one or not
@GunSam3 жыл бұрын
I haven't tried it yet, but I do have white box 9mm JHP that I been meaning to try.
@doranmaxwell17553 жыл бұрын
I know that handloads are not legal in most cases in self defense but... playing around.... I took hollow based .358 speer wadcutters.... I coated em with HT coating.. this is the thing... I loaded em in 38 spl cases upside down at around 890 or so FPS (4" barrel) Soooo in the past with soft lead 148 WC upside down? erratic if not dismal? But.... with the HT (powder coat would be the same) I get mushroom performance with 90% ? weight retention.. this is in magazines as a medium. it penetrated about like a round nose but.... WAY more expansion I get it...you won't probly do handloads but it would make a fun vid.
@GunSam3 жыл бұрын
I have tested them a few times. Hand loads are not typically illegal for defense, but most say not to use them as if the shooting is in question, powder burns, unburned powder etc etc might put you in a different position than you said you were in, if different ammo than you used is ballistic tested. Like if they find a .38 case and an XTP, well they aren't going to use your hand loads to ballistic test, they will use Hornady ammo and be like "oh he was lying" when in reality, your hand loads may have just been hotter or weaker.
@doranmaxwell17553 жыл бұрын
@@GunSam Fact is? that at my age I do not give a crap what is or is not legal. I will let 12 true decide that LOL My POINT is that all my ammo is handloads. Sooooo.. if someone says I did not 'buy' the right ammo? LOL It is what I do
@mgsharnhorst3 жыл бұрын
That Buffalo Bore 38spcl... nice. Did it really over penetrate? I beg to differ
@GunSam3 жыл бұрын
Not really.
@rodneyspence7441 Жыл бұрын
What's your suggestion for a good 45 ACP round? Thanks!
@donaldballman28253 жыл бұрын
In the 357 how would heavier slugs compare to the 125 gr
@GunSam3 жыл бұрын
They would transfer the energy a bit deeper, probably more similar to the .44 Special.
@pistolerogt3 жыл бұрын
Does not carry 38 spl? And what do you think about the Guardian Gold Magtech CBC 38 spl +P? Good video!!
@GunSam3 жыл бұрын
I have not tested that ammo yet.
@allenbolen9705 Жыл бұрын
Try federal punch 22LR 12+inches penetration.
@whomagoose68973 жыл бұрын
I second your statement on the fact that the .357-Sig round will never match the .357 magnum in a revolver. Besides that lame .357-Sig is an answer looking for a question.
@GunSam3 жыл бұрын
In the limited situations I have heard of, the .357 Sig does a good job. But, overall I would think having a .357 Mag revolver and backup 9mm+P pistol is a better solution.
@whomagoose68973 жыл бұрын
@@GunSam I prefer the mass of a 586 or a 686 for the .357 magnum. But a J frame .357 revolver is for the birds. Too small for me.
@danielaramburo76483 жыл бұрын
I wish I had the money to get an older PPK in 32acp.
@GunSam3 жыл бұрын
There are some of those import European .32's for like $250 that are everywhere. Not a PPK but a decent longer barrel .32.